Re: [css-d] css list

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10/22/2006 09:20 PM, Brian Jones wrote:
I have a 16px x 16px image that I want to set as the background image
of a li how would i go about setting my css to accomplish this


The simple answer is:

li#example
{
 width: 16px;
 height: 16px;
 background: url(something.jpg) left top no-repeat;
}

If the LI also contains text (as perhaps it should, to provide 
content in the absence of image support), what's the relationship of 
the text to the 16x16 image?  Is the text hidden?  Does it lie on top 
of the image?  What happens to that relationship as the text 
resizes?  Defining the situation in more detail will lead to more 
detailed solutions.

Regards,
Paul 

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Re: [css-d] Test_please_1

2006-10-23 Thread Administration
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Administration wrote:
   
 http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/
 http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/highbury.css

 Site page renders fine in both FF 1.5 and IE 6

 Experiencing problems with Opera 9.0.1 where the page font is smaller 
 than in the other browsers.

 Keno.

   
 
 Keno,

 I did not see the image border problem that you mentioned in xp ::  ie7, 
 ff, or opera.
 And I do not know what you mean about the background color for the text 
 you wrote about.
 You do need a background-color for the page, see: 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/temp.jpg.
 To bump the font size for Opera only, use the appropriate selector(s) 
 with this filter at the very bottom of the style sheet:
 @media screen and (min-width: 0px){
 #foo { font-size: whatever%!important; }
 } /*be even nicer to opera */

 Regards,

 ~dL

Hi David,

Thanks for your help . 

Hopefully I have the background problem sorted ...

Only in Opera 9.0.1, I am getting what looks like a 1px border
on the top and both sides of the header_all.jpg image.

I have:  img { border:  0;}

I am still not sure of how to set up the filter that you sent, to overcome the 
font size problem .

 it's effecting all font sizes on the page (footer and the business hours text).

Thanks,

Keno

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[css-d] I posted yesterday but I will try again

2006-10-23 Thread Ross Hulford

This was yesterdays post..


The html

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/test.php

the css

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/css/


The problem is suckerfish goes behind the text (performance and events). Any 
help would be appreciated.

I have had this problem berfore due to the dropdowns being absolutely 
positioned.


The update is I have tried to absolutely position the #left and #right divs 
inside the relatively positioned  container and possibly give them a z-index, 
but they dispaear!!


thanks,


Ross
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[css-d] IE7s zoom features and suckerfish stuff

2006-10-23 Thread Ross Hulford
Zoom - This was a feature I noticed in OPERA ages ago and thought it was really 
slick. The whole page zooms for the visually impaired user.

I am finding ie7 messes with my suckerfish. Does IE7 not require the javascript 
 fix? 

Ross


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[css-d] Footer problem in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Lyn Williams
For some reason the footer to this web page ( www.ewp-ltd.co.uk
http://www.ewp-ltd.co.uk/  ) doesn't centre correctly within Internet
Explorer but works fine with Firefox. Does anyone have a solution? 

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Re: [css-d] Footer problem in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Ian Young

 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] Footer problem in IE
 
 
 For some reason the footer to this web page ( www.ewp-ltd.co.uk
 http://www.ewp-ltd.co.uk/  ) doesn't centre correctly within Internet
 Explorer but works fine with Firefox. Does anyone have a solution? 
 

IE doesn't recognise margin-left:auto;margin:right:auto.

to centre a div, try using percentages:

eg footer {width:90%;margin:0 5% 0%}

Ian


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[css-d] css-d Navigation menu inconsistencies between IE everything else

2006-10-23 Thread janmcintyre
Hi list,

I'm having a problem with the bottom nav bar on some of my pages -
the correct version is here: http://www.hillerypriest.co.nz/test/pr01.html
and the incorrect version is here: 
http://www.hillerypriest.co.nz/test/commercial.html
The css is http://www.hillerypriest.co.nz/test/css/all.css

For some reason, it's working fine in FF, Safari, Camino etc, but in IE 6 IE 7 
the nav bar appears to be out by 20px or so on some of the pages.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,
Thanks,

Jan
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Re: [css-d] Div positioning

2006-10-23 Thread Pete Home
OK, I've done a lot more work on this and have get the basis of the tabular
layout, but I do not know why the pictures will not float right or left.

As this page is dynamic, and uses AJAX, I have reproduced the page
statically at www.themarjlebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2006 17:00
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: Div positioning

I'm trying to produce tabular type layout for venues and gigs using divs
where I end up with something like this;



VENU 1




VENU 1 DETAILS  |


V1g1 DETAILS|v1g1 PICTURE 


v1g2 PICTURE|v1g2 DETAILS


V1g3 DETAILS|


VENU 2




VENUE 2 DETAILS |


v2g1 DETAILS|


v2g2 DETAILS|v2g2 PICTURE



Etc

You'll notice that some gigs have pictures and some don't, and the pictures
are staggered left and right. A gig with a picture always starts a new
'row'.

I thought I'd end up with something like;

DIV ID=venu1 class=venueVenu1 name
div ID=venu1det class=venudetailsvenue 1 details/div
div id=v1g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v1g1pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g1.jpg/div
  div id=v1g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g2.jpg/div
div id=v1g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
div id=v1g3 class=giggig 3 details/div /div div
id=venu2 class=venueVenu2 name
div ID=venu2det class=venudetailsvenue 2 details/div
div id=v2g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v2g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
  div id=v2g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v2g2.jpg/div /div

All gigs and pictures will be 50% of the width 

What I wondered if there is some way of forcing this pattern of divs and
ensuring they start a new 'row' when there is a pictures associated with the
gig details.

Regards
Pete

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[css-d] more than css Zen Garden ?

2006-10-23 Thread Bru, Pierre
hi all,
 
css Zen Garden is full of beautifull variations done via css on the same
html page. do you know other place like this one ?
 
TIA,
Pierre.
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Re: [css-d] more than css Zen Garden ?

2006-10-23 Thread Christian Heilmann
 css Zen Garden is full of beautifull variations done via css on the same
 html page. do you know other place like this one ?

http://icant.co.uk/csstablegallery/

I tried taking the idea of Zen Garden further, but it was a stillborn:
http://csstoolshed.com/



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[css-d] CSS Tile Trick

2006-10-23 Thread Ted Johnson
Hi;
I have a graphic I want to use for the top of the pages in a Web site. It's 788 
px wide. I have little tile graphics (as high as the main graphic) I want to 
tile on either side of the main graphic for browsers whose resolution is 
greater (to fill up the space). I imagine I need to create a table with one 
row, a column of repeated tiles, the main graphic in a second column and 
finally a third column of repeated tiles. How do I repeat these tile 
graphics? (If my description wasn't adequate, please visit:
http://test.2012.vi
where you can see the main graphic with space that needs to be filled up on 
either side.)
TIA,
Ted



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Re: [css-d] Div positioning

2006-10-23 Thread Pete Home
Got even further now, and the problems with the pictures is resolved. I
forgot that I needed to float the picture before writing the text so the
text now flows around the picture.

I still have a couple of problems. Firstly, I cannot see why the
section_contents div has a horizontal scroll bar. I'm assuming it's
something to do you margins/padding. Also I have alternated the venues
inside a div with a class of bg0 or bg1 to alternate the background colours
however this seems to have no effect. Any ideas?

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 October 2006 13:13
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: RE: Div positioning

OK, I've done a lot more work on this and have get the basis of the tabular
layout, but I do not know why the pictures will not float right or left.

As this page is dynamic, and uses AJAX, I have reproduced the page
statically at www.themarjlebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2006 17:00
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: Div positioning

I'm trying to produce tabular type layout for venues and gigs using divs
where I end up with something like this;



VENU 1




VENU 1 DETAILS  |


V1g1 DETAILS|v1g1 PICTURE 


v1g2 PICTURE|v1g2 DETAILS


V1g3 DETAILS|


VENU 2




VENUE 2 DETAILS |


v2g1 DETAILS|


v2g2 DETAILS|v2g2 PICTURE



Etc

You'll notice that some gigs have pictures and some don't, and the pictures
are staggered left and right. A gig with a picture always starts a new
'row'.

I thought I'd end up with something like;

DIV ID=venu1 class=venueVenu1 name
div ID=venu1det class=venudetailsvenue 1 details/div
div id=v1g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v1g1pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g1.jpg/div
  div id=v1g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g2.jpg/div
div id=v1g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
div id=v1g3 class=giggig 3 details/div /div div
id=venu2 class=venueVenu2 name
div ID=venu2det class=venudetailsvenue 2 details/div
div id=v2g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v2g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
  div id=v2g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v2g2.jpg/div /div

All gigs and pictures will be 50% of the width 

What I wondered if there is some way of forcing this pattern of divs and
ensuring they start a new 'row' when there is a pictures associated with the
gig details.

Regards
Pete

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[css-d] How to move image div to front or back

2006-10-23 Thread ed gooddy
  The page is now tentatively valid HTML 4.01 Transitional: 
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm  
  I have been googling with any luck on how to send a layer to the back of a 
page. How would I send the navimager layer to the back of the page?
   
  #navimager {
 Z-INDEX: 2; LEFT: 250px; FLOAT: left; WIDTH: 186px; POSITION: relative; TOP: 
0px; HEIGHT: 90px
}
  Thanks for any pointers!


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Re: [css-d] How to move image div to front or back

2006-10-23 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 10/23/06, ed gooddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The page is now tentatively valid HTML 4.01 Transitional: 
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm
   I have been googling with any luck on how to send a layer to the back of a 
 page. How would I send the navimager layer to the back of the page?

   #navimager {
  Z-INDEX: 2; LEFT: 250px; FLOAT: left; WIDTH: 186px; POSITION: relative; TOP: 
 0px; HEIGHT: 90px
 }

Why the all-uppercase style data?   It doesn't hurt anything (except
maybe my eyes :) ), but it's somewhat atypical.

 I'm not sure what you mean by send to the back of hte page.
Whatever has the lowest z-index will be at the back.  If you're using
'send' to mean you're trying to do it dynamically, then you can use
CSS to change the z-index via e.g. :hover, or you can use JavaScript
with something like document.getElementById('navimager').style.zIndex
= 0;

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[css-d] absolute positioning not working either in IE6

2006-10-23 Thread Ross Hulford
I have created a situation where the internal bits #header #left and #right are 
all absoultely positioned but I still cannot seam to get the dropdown to go 
over the text.

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/abs.php


The css

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/css/abs.css


I am not too clear on how to use z-index. The bigger the number should be on 
top of the stack? doesIE not recognise this??


Thanks,


R.
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Re: [css-d] CSS Tile Trick

2006-10-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ted Johnson wrote:
 Hi; I have a graphic I want to use for the top of the pages in a Web
  site. It's 788 px wide. I have little tile graphics (as high as the
  main graphic) I want to tile on either side of the main graphic for
  browsers whose resolution is greater (to fill up the space). I 
 imagine I need to create a table with one row, a column of repeated 
 tiles, the main graphic in a second column and finally a third column
  of repeated tiles. How do I repeat these tile graphics?

 http://test.2012.vi

Your imagination is playing tricks on you... :-) ...you're
overcomplicating things. The div is already covering the full width, so
all you need is a background on it.

Based on the source-code you have now, the following will work...

div align=center style=background: #cde url(images/toptile.jpg)
repeat-x 50% 0;
   img src=images/template.jpg width=788 height=89 alt=The
2012.vi Community headmast /
/div

...with an image called 'toptile.jpg' fanning out from the center -
filling the entire width regardless of window-width.



That div should of course be given an ID and all styles be moved to a
stylesheet. Then it would look more like this...

HTML:

div ID=header
   img src=images/template.jpg width=788 height=89 alt=The
2012.vi Community headmast /
/div

CSS:

#header {text-align: center; background: #cde url(images/toptile.jpg)
repeat-x 50% 0;}


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[css-d] Need help w/ css for IE6

2006-10-23 Thread John Tice

My first css/xhtml site is nearing completion and it has issues in  
IE6. It validates as strict and looks good in Firefox, Safari and  
Opera. I have only occasional access to a windows machine, so it's  
difficult to trouble shoot via trial and error.  I would surely  
appreciate some insight into how to fix the problems in IE without  
messing it up in the compliant browsers. The primary glitches are...

- horizontal menu at top doesn't float, so it's not horizontal in IE  
(search #topmenu in css)
- the header div appears to be a few pixels wider than the background  
image
- the right column (floated right) seems to not have enough space and  
bumps down below the center column
- horizontal rules are goofy and don't align properly
- footer has vertical spacing issue (and there are probably more)

Here are links to a page and the css:

http://pixelpasta.com/whoweare.shtml
http://pixelpasta.com/css/bpc3cola.css

Thanks,
John
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[css-d] Shrinkwrap Float problem in IE6

2006-10-23 Thread Faust
Hi,

I am having several problems with creating a float based layout.  I 
think I am pretty close to getting the desired effect in Firefox and 
Opera.  Most of my problems seem to be with IE.

Here is a sample page:

http://shrinkwrap.precisionantibody.faustgertz.com/faq/

In Firefox and Opera, the width of the #body DIV which wraps everything 
is the minimum width required for everything to fit and constrains the 
widths of DIV#head and DIV#foot. In IE6, DIV#body as well as the 
DIV#head and DIV#foot are as wide as the browser window. I would like it 
to work like it does in Firefox and Opera.  Any suggestions?

The reason I am trying to use floats for the layout is the navigation 
bar.  I want the width of the #body DIV to be as wide as needed for 
accommodate the width of the navigation bar.  I tried setting the 
navigation bar based on ems, but I couldn't get it to work consistently 
in IE, Firefox, and Opera with various font size settings.  I also 
attempted to use javascript to measure the width needed for the 
navigation bar and modify the widths of the other elements accordingly, 
but that would mean relying on javascript for more than I wanted for the 
layout.  I hoped using the shrink wrap features of floats would allow 
for a CSS solution to the problem.

I am also having problems with the DIV#foot in IE6.  In the other 
browsers, it appears fine.  In IE6, the gray area for the text is much 
taller than desired.  It seems to work in IE6 if I use a BR or HR to 
clear the floats of it's pervious siblings, but I would rather not add 
extra elements simply to clear the floats.  Any suggestions?

Finally, on the home page:

http://shrinkwrap.precisionantibody.faustgertz.com/

I seem to be having a problem in IE6 with an element that is both 
floated left and clearing the floats of it's previous siblings.  I saw 
something about that problem in the wiki and will try to figure it out.  
I mention it here in case someone wants to save me some time suggest a 
solution.


Thanks in advance,

Faust Gertz

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Re: [css-d] Div positioning

2006-10-23 Thread Pete Home
Sorry Guy's, the link should be
www.marylebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 October 2006 15:09
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: RE: Div positioning

Got even further now, and the problems with the pictures is resolved. I
forgot that I needed to float the picture before writing the text so the
text now flows around the picture.

I still have a couple of problems. Firstly, I cannot see why the
section_contents div has a horizontal scroll bar. I'm assuming it's
something to do you margins/padding. Also I have alternated the venues
inside a div with a class of bg0 or bg1 to alternate the background colours
however this seems to have no effect. Any ideas?

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 October 2006 13:13
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: RE: Div positioning

OK, I've done a lot more work on this and have get the basis of the tabular
layout, but I do not know why the pictures will not float right or left.

As this page is dynamic, and uses AJAX, I have reproduced the page
statically at www.themarjlebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2006 17:00
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: Div positioning

I'm trying to produce tabular type layout for venues and gigs using divs
where I end up with something like this;



VENU 1




VENU 1 DETAILS  |


V1g1 DETAILS|v1g1 PICTURE 


v1g2 PICTURE|v1g2 DETAILS


V1g3 DETAILS|


VENU 2




VENUE 2 DETAILS |


v2g1 DETAILS|


v2g2 DETAILS|v2g2 PICTURE



Etc

You'll notice that some gigs have pictures and some don't, and the pictures
are staggered left and right. A gig with a picture always starts a new
'row'.

I thought I'd end up with something like;

DIV ID=venu1 class=venueVenu1 name
div ID=venu1det class=venudetailsvenue 1 details/div
div id=v1g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v1g1pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g1.jpg/div
  div id=v1g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v1g2.jpg/div
div id=v1g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
div id=v1g3 class=giggig 3 details/div /div div
id=venu2 class=venueVenu2 name
div ID=venu2det class=venudetailsvenue 2 details/div
div id=v2g1 class=giggig 1 details/div
div id=v2g2 class=giggig 2 details/div
  div id=v2g2pic class=gigpicimg src=v2g2.jpg/div /div

All gigs and pictures will be 50% of the width 

What I wondered if there is some way of forcing this pattern of divs and
ensuring they start a new 'row' when there is a pictures associated with the
gig details.

Regards
Pete

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[css-d] 100% height div css problem

2006-10-23 Thread Cameron Rimington
Hi,

 

http://develop.oidadev.co.uk/arrogant_cat/frontend/basket_address.html

 

I am having problems on this example of a page created with 100% height
and 4 absolutely positioned divs with 100% height and background
colours.

 

The divs only take 100% height of the viewable area so when I scroll
they do not extend.  I reduce the height of the browser window they I
lose the background of any div that does not have extra content.

 

It seems to behave the same on all browsers

 

It's very annoying and I would really rather use this than creating
background images for the entire html area as my columns change per
page.

 

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

Cameron

 

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[css-d] blog layout: example of compatibility with IE5 Win

2006-10-23 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi all!
http://ceterumcenseo.altervista.org/

this is the CSS:

html {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

body {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
background: #fff;
color: #000;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 76%;
}

a:link, a:visited {
color: #00f;
text-decoration: none;
border-bottom: 1px solid;
}
a:hover {
color: #329;
background: #ffc;
border-bottom: 1px dashed;
}

#header {
background: #fc3 url(cetero.gif) 0 50% no-repeat;
width: 100%;
height: 150px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border-bottom: 1px solid #000;
}
#header h1 {
position: absolute;
top: -1000em; /* useful instead of Google's deprecated 'display: none'
}


.title {
margin: 0;
padding: 1.4em 0;
text-align: center;
font: italic 2em Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
text-transform: uppercase;
}

#page {
margin: 0 250px 2em 3em;
padding: 0;
border-right: 1px solid #000;
font-size: 1em;
}

h2, h3 {
font-family: Garamond, Georgia, Times, serif;
padding: 0;
color: #666;
background: transparent;
letter-spacing: .2em;
}

h2 {
font-size: 1.6em;
margin: 0.8em 0 0 0;
}
h3 {
font-size: 1.4em;
margin: 0.75em 0 0 0;
font-style: italic;
}

* html p {margin: 0; padding: 0 1em 0.75em 1em;}
/*\*/ * html p {padding-top /*\*/: .75em;} /**/

/* padding for wrong margins calculations */

p {
text-align: justify;
margin: 0 1em 0.75em 1em;
padding: 0;
letter-spacing: .1em;
line-height: 1.5;
}

* html p.post {margin-right: 1em; margin-left: 1em;}
/* both explorers have weak inheritance here */

p.post {
padding-bottom: 3px;
border-bottom: 1px dashed #999;
text-align: right;
}
p.post a:link, p.post a:visited, p.post a:hover {border-bottom: none;
font-style: italic;}
p.ind {text-indent: 2em;}
p.center {text-align: center;}
p.center2 {text-align: right;}

span.prime{
font-size: 3em;
font-family: Times New Roman, Times, serif;
float: left;
margin: 0;
padding-right: 4px;
padding-bottom: 4px;
}

/*\*/ * html #nav { float /*\*/: right; position /*\*/: relative; top /*\*/:
40px; }/**/

/* the main problem. IE 5 win puts the absolutely positioned box at the
bottom of the page. this is a temporary solution. suggestions are really
appreciated */


#nav {
position: absolute;
top: 190px;
right: 5px;
width: 200px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border-top: 3px solid #ccc;
border-left: 1px solid #ccc;
background: #fff;
color: #000;
}


#nav h4 {
margin: 0.8em 0.5em;
padding: 0;
text-transform: uppercase;
font: bold italic 1em Trebuchet MS, Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;
color: #008;
background: transparent;
text-align: center;
}

#nav ul {
margin-left: 1em;
padding-left: 0;
list-style: none;
}
#nav li {
margin: 1em 0.3em;
padding-bottom: 3px;
border-bottom: 1px dashed #8fac98;
}
#nav a:link, #nav a:visited, #nav a:hover, #nav a:focus {
border-bottom: none;
outline-style: none;
}
#nav a:link, #nav a:visited {
display: block;
margin: 0;
padding: 4px;
background: transparent;
}
#nav a:hover {
background: #000;
color: #fff;
}

/*\*/ * html #nav li {padding-bottom /*\*/: 0px;}/**/
/*\*/ * html #nav a:link, * html #nav a:visited {
margin /*\*/: 4px 0 0 0; position /*\*/: relative; height /*\*/: 1%; w\idth
/*\*/: auto;
}/**/

/* IE5 win needs this to create the correct layout for buttons */

ul, ol {
margin-left: 2em;
padding-left: 0;
line-height: 1.8;
}

ul {
list-style-type: square;
}

ol {
list-style-type: upper-roman;
}

li {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

dl {
margin: 1.12em;
padding: 0;
}
dt {
margin: 1em 0;
padding: 3px 0;
border-top: 1px solid #000;
border-bottom: 1px solid #000;
}

dd {
margin: 0.75em 0 0.75em 2em;
padding: 0;
}

.hide {position: absolute; top: -1000em;}

.spacer {height: 1px; font-size: 1px;}

/*\*/ * html .qui {line-height /*\*/: 100%; vertical-align /*\*/:
middle;}/**/
.qui {border-bottom: 5px solid #000; padding-bottom: 3px; height: 1%;}

/* hack used to force IE5 win to apply border to an inline element.
'vertical-align' is used to balance 'height: 1%'

Suggestions are really appreciated. many thanks for your attention. I hope
someone find it useful. bye

Gabriele Romanato


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Re: [css-d] Need help w/ css for IE6

2006-10-23 Thread Faust
John Tice wrote:
 I would surely appreciate some insight into how to fix the problems in IE 
 without  
 messing it up in the compliant browsers. The primary glitches are...
   
How does it work if you remove

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?

from the top of your XHTML code?  That bit of text is throwing IE6 into 
quirksmode and thus causing IE6 to use the old IE box model instead of 
the W3C box model.

See http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html for details. 


Hope this helps,

Faust
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[css-d] box model problem?

2006-10-23 Thread John Lee
Hi,
I am having a problem getting my page to look right in internet
explorer. I have tested it on firefox, safari, opera, and it looks
fine but when I go to IE it breaks. Im pretty new to CSS and I
recently discovered the box model problem and feell like this is the
issue that Im having.

here is the page: dangerousmuse.blogspot.com

if anyone can offer a suggestion It would be GREATLY appreciated. I
know that there are box model hacks but I don't know how to
implement them.

btw, this is my first post. I discovered the URL through a WROX book.

=)
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Re: [css-d] Need help w/ css for IE6

2006-10-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Tice wrote:
 My first css/xhtml site is nearing completion and it has issues in 
 IE6. It validates as strict and looks good in Firefox, Safari and 
 Opera. I have only occasional access to a windows machine, so it's 
 difficult to trouble shoot via trial and error.  I would surely 
 appreciate some insight into how to fix the problems in IE without 
 messing it up in the compliant browsers.

Most problems will be solved by simply deleting the 'xml-declaration'
above the 'doctype-declaration' - allowing IE6 to render in a more
standard compliant mode. Won't cause any problems for real 'standard
compliant' browsers, as they are there already.

That'll leave IE6 with only one very weak spot left - the auto-expansion
bug. Nothing noticeable on normal font-size, but one step up in IE6 and
the right column will be dropped...

 - the right column (floated right) seems to not have enough space and
  bumps down below the center column

Add...
* html #rightcontent {overflow-x: hidden; margin-left: -10px;}
* html #rightcontent * {position: relative;}
...if you like that column to stay up there in IE-win too.

 http://pixelpasta.com/whoweare.shtml

regards
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[css-d] Dynamic Content Falling Behind Absolute Footer in IE (standards mode, but not quirks)

2006-10-23 Thread Pete Lasko
In IE in Standards Mode, my Ajax-updated content is being pushed  
behind the footer. As far as I can tell, this isn't a hasLayout  
issue. Please Correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I understand it,  
all the important elements here have layout, and should be behaving  
properly.

To see the expected behavior visit http://yammr.com/quirks.html
To see the page misbehaving in Standards Mode see http://yammr.com/ 
strict.html

The only real differences between the two pages is the doctype at the  
top of strict.html.

The end goal here is to have a center aligned header/body/absolute  
footer layout that works properly in major browsers and allow for  
dynamic resizing of inner elements. I hope this goal isn't too lofty.
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[css-d] shopping carts

2006-10-23 Thread Phil Turner
I need to find a shopping cart that can work out postage/shipping  
costs, paypal only allows one currency does anyone know a good one we  
only have one product to sell but need to include all the various  
postage costs. Using a mac and dreamweaver
Also the middle section is pushing the right hand div to the bottom  
in I E  - help anyone please

http://www.philturner-uk.com/ypny/

Kind Regards

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Re: [css-d] shopping carts

2006-10-23 Thread Portman
Did you try Mals? http://www.mals-e.com. There are many different 
currency and postage settings. Contact me offlist if you want more help.

HTH,
Riva

Phil Turner wrote:
 I need to find a shopping cart that can work out postage/shipping  
 costs, paypal only allows one currency does anyone know a good one we  
 only have one product to sell but need to include all the various  
 postage costs. Using a mac and dreamweaver
 Also the middle section is pushing the right hand div to the bottom  
 in I E  - help anyone please

 http://www.philturner-uk.com/ypny/

 Kind Regards

 Phil Turner
 FREELANCE CREATIVE
 TEL: 0161 439 1669
 Chartered Graphic Designer MCSD  BA Hons
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Re: [css-d] shopping carts

2006-10-23 Thread Erik Visser
Phil Turner wrote:
 I need to find a shopping cart that can work out postage/shipping  
 costs, paypal only allows one currency does anyone know a good one we  
 only have one product to sell but need to include all the various  
 postage costs. 

Take a look here:

http://www.zencart.com/
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Re: [css-d] CSS Tile Trick

2006-10-23 Thread Ted Johnson
That worked! Thanks!
Ted

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Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS Tile Trick

Ted Johnson wrote:
 Hi; I have a graphic I want to use for the top of the pages in a Web
  site. It's 788 px wide. I have little tile graphics (as high as the
  main graphic) I want to tile on either side of the main graphic for
  browsers whose resolution is greater (to fill up the space). I 
 imagine I need to create a table with one row, a column of repeated 
 tiles, the main graphic in a second column and finally a third column
  of repeated tiles. How do I repeat these tile graphics?

 http://test.2012.vi

Your imagination is playing tricks on you... :-) ...you're
overcomplicating things. The div is already covering the full width, so
all you need is a background on it.

Based on the source-code you have now, the following will work...

div align=center style=background: #cde url(images/toptile.jpg)
repeat-x 50% 0;
   img src=images/template.jpg width=788 height=89 alt=The
2012.vi Community headmast /
/div

...with an image called 'toptile.jpg' fanning out from the center -
filling the entire width regardless of window-width.



That div should of course be given an ID and all styles be moved to a
stylesheet. Then it would look more like this...

HTML:

div ID=header
   img src=images/template.jpg width=788 height=89 alt=The
2012.vi Community headmast /
/div

CSS:

#header {text-align: center; background: #cde url(images/toptile.jpg)
repeat-x 50% 0;}


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[css-d] Lowest Z index not at back

2006-10-23 Thread ed gooddy
Hi all,
  The navimager div 
  #navimager {
 z-index: 9; left: 250px; float: left; width: 186px; position: relative; top: 
0px; height: 90px
}
   
  in this page http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm has the highest z index but 
it overlaps the other divs. Why? How can I make it go to background(not as a 
background iamge) Thanks
   
  
 


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Re: [css-d] IE 7 - Extra padding-top

2006-10-23 Thread Nate Kresse
David,

I don't believe tight coding had anything to do with it. You simply moved
the background style to the containing div. This is a fix but not always
possible or desirable.

See this second test case which uses your code with the background style
applied to the containing div (#pagehead):

http://www.stammbt.com/testing/testie7_2.html

Thanks,

Nate Kresse




On 10/22/06 4:24 AM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nate Kresse wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I came across a situation where IE7 (fresh copy downloaded today) inserts
 extra padding-top when applied to an element inside a cleared div that comes
 after a floated div. It also seems like it is related to using the shortcut
 to apply a background color.
 
 Check out my test case here:
 
 http://www.stammbt.com/testing/testie7.html
 
 It can be fixed a number of ways.
 
 1. If you add a border to the div with the property: clear:both
 2. Removing the background property
 3. Completing the background property shortcut - adding url(image)
 no-repeat 0 0;
 4. removing the float on the first div
 
 You get the point...
 
 This page displays correct in every browser that I've loaded it into except
 IE7.
 
 
   
 I have no idea what is going on. Or why it is going on. Or what causes
 something to correct it.. Tight coding seemed to yield a consistent result?
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bug.html
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=293476
 Best,
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Re: [css-d] IE 7 - Extra padding-top

2006-10-23 Thread Nate Kresse
Correction: You moved the background style to the paragraph inside the
containing div. 

Thanks,

Nate



On 10/23/06 12:22 PM, Nate Kresse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 
 I don't believe tight coding had anything to do with it. You simply moved
 the background style to the containing div. This is a fix but not always
 possible or desirable.
 
 See this second test case which uses your code with the background style
 applied to the containing div (#pagehead):
 
 http://www.stammbt.com/testing/testie7_2.html
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nate Kresse
 
 
 
 
 On 10/22/06 4:24 AM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nate Kresse wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I came across a situation where IE7 (fresh copy downloaded today) inserts
 extra padding-top when applied to an element inside a cleared div that comes
 after a floated div. It also seems like it is related to using the shortcut
 to apply a background color.
 
 Check out my test case here:
 
 http://www.stammbt.com/testing/testie7.html
 
 It can be fixed a number of ways.
 
 1. If you add a border to the div with the property: clear:both
 2. Removing the background property
 3. Completing the background property shortcut - adding url(image)
 no-repeat 0 0;
 4. removing the float on the first div
 
 You get the point...
 
 This page displays correct in every browser that I've loaded it into except
 IE7.
 
 
   
 I have no idea what is going on. Or why it is going on. Or what causes
 something to correct it.. Tight coding seemed to yield a consistent result?
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bug.html
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=293476
 Best,
 ~dL
 
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Re: [css-d] Lowest Z index not at back

2006-10-23 Thread Rob O'Rourke
ed gooddy wrote:
 Hi all,
   The navimager div 
   #navimager {
  z-index: 9; left: 250px; float: left; width: 186px; position: relative; top: 
 0px; height: 90px
 }

   in this page http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm has the highest z index 
 but it overlaps the other divs. Why? How can I make it go to background(not 
 as a background iamge) Thanks


   
Alright Ed,

I added position:relative to #navbar and that did the trick, z-index 
only works on elements that are positioned relatively, absolutely and 
fixed. I've not tested z-indexing fixed boxes so I don't know much about 
how it's handled cross-browser except that IE6 doesn't natively support 
position fixed.

Hope that helps,
   Rob
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[css-d] centering elements in IE

2006-10-23 Thread martin f krafft
Hi all,

In most browsers, I can do things like 

  img.logo { margin: 0 auto; }

which results in the element centred within its parent container.

Of course, this does not work with IE. Short of adding
a text-align:center to the parent (which is *not* what I want), how
can one get the same effect with IE?

Cheers,

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Re: [css-d] centering elements in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Stefan Nagtegaal

Op 23-okt-2006, om 20:07 heeft martin f krafft het volgende geschreven:

 Hi all,

 In most browsers, I can do things like

   img.logo { margin: 0 auto; }

 which results in the element centred within its parent container.

 Of course, this does not work with IE. Short of adding
 a text-align:center to the parent (which is *not* what I want), how
 can one get the same effect with IE?

 Cheers,

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Use text-align: center; on the parent element.


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[css-d] Need some help with MIR image replacement. Also, Missing list-style-type:disc.

2006-10-23 Thread David Merwin
I am trying to use MIR image replacement. Works great in Fireworks,  
but in IE (PC) and Safari it shows the first letters of the text that  
is being replaced. Making me crazy, can't figure out what is going on.

ALso, I am missing the discs in my ul. I can not figure out why they  
are not showing up.

Any help would be great.

MIR technique here: http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/ 
mir_image_replacement.html

Page in Question Here: http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/ 
disk_list.php

CSS All Here:
http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/css/sp_default.css - defauly  
css set
http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/css/colors.css
http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/css/print.css

Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] centering elements in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
 Hi all,

 In most browsers, I can do things like

   img.logo { margin: 0 auto; }

 which results in the element centred within its parent container.

 Of course, this does not work with IE. Short of adding
 a text-align:center to the parent (which is *not* what I want), how
 can one get the same effect with IE?

Of course part is wrong here. This does work in IE6+, just make sure
that IE is in standards-compliant mode.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp

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Re: [css-d] Test_please_1

2006-10-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Administration wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
   
 Administration wrote:
   
 
 http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/
 http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/highbury.css

 Site page renders fine in both FF 1.5 and IE 6

 Experiencing problems with Opera 9.0.1 where the page font is smaller 
 than in the other browsers.

 Keno.

   
 
   
 Keno,

 I did not see the image border problem that you mentioned in xp ::  ie7, 
 ff, or opera.
 And I do not know what you mean about the background color for the text 
 you wrote about.
 You do need a background-color for the page, see: 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/temp.jpg.
 To bump the font size for Opera only, use the appropriate selector(s) 
 with this filter at the very bottom of the style sheet:
 @media screen and (min-width: 0px){
 #foo { font-size: whatever%!important; }
 } /*be even nicer to opera */

 Regards,

 ~dL
 

 Hi David,

 Thanks for your help . 

 Hopefully I have the background problem sorted ...

 Only in Opera 9.0.1, I am getting what looks like a 1px border
 on the top and both sides of the header_all.jpg image.

 I have:  img { border:  0;}

 I am still not sure of how to set up the filter that you sent, to overcome 
 the font size problem .

  it's effecting all font sizes on the page (footer and the business hours 
 text).

 Thanks,

 Keno

   
You have resolved the background-color problem in Opera.

I still do not see the border issue in xp opera/9.01 (that does not mean 
that it does not exist on your end).

Try this in your css file:  img {border: none;}
(and re-inforce it in the opera hack as below)

Re-set the opera filter for the font-problem (and border issue) to:
@media screen and (min-width: 0px){
img { border: none!important; }
h4 { font-size: 90%!important; }
} /*be even nicer to opera */

If this does not resolve the opera problem(s), start a new thread with 
the subject line: opera/9.01 issues.
State the specific issue(s) and the operating system that you are 
running when you experience them in opera 9.01.

HTH
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Re: [css-d] centering elements in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
 Hi all,

 In most browsers, I can do things like

   img.logo { margin: 0 auto; }

 which results in the element centred within its parent container.

 Of course, this does not work with IE. Short of adding
 a text-align:center to the parent (which is *not* what I want), how
 can one get the same effect with IE?
 

 Of course part is wrong here. This does work in IE6+, just make sure
 that IE is in standards-compliant mode.

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp

 Regards,
 Rimantas

   
If it still doesn't work make sure the image in question is set to 
display: block;
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Re: [css-d] Lowest Z index not at back

2006-10-23 Thread ed gooddy
D´oh!! Right let me change the z-index order around and see what happens..

David Merwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  You have the z-index numbers 
backwards?  

  The higher the number, the higher it is stacked. The lower the number, the 
lower it is stacked. If you want the div in the back, set it's z-index to 0 or 
lower.
  

  Here's an example: 
http://www.w3schools.com/dhtml/tryit.asp?filename=trydhtml_zindex2
  
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On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:10 AM, ed gooddy wrote:

Hi all,
The navimager div 
#navimager {
   z-index: 9; left: 250px; float: left; width: 186px; position: relative; top: 
0px; height: 90px
  }
  

in this page http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm has the highest z index 
but it overlaps the other divs. Why? How can I make it go to background(not as 
a background iamge) Thanks
  

  

  

  



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Re: [css-d] Lowest Z index not at back

2006-10-23 Thread ed gooddy
D´oh!! Thanks David Right let me change the z-index order around and see what 
happens...

David Merwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   You have the z-index numbers 
backwards?   

  The higher the number, the higher it is stacked. The lower the number, the 
lower it is stacked. If you want the div in the back, set it's z-index to 0 or 
lower.
  

  Here's an example: 
http://www.w3schools.com/dhtml/tryit.asp?filename=trydhtml_zindex2
  
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On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:10 AM, ed gooddy wrote:

Hi all,
The navimager div 
#navimager {
   z-index: 9; left: 250px; float: left; width: 186px; position: relative; top: 
0px; height: 90px
  }
  

in this page http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm has the highest z index 
but it overlaps the other divs. Why? How can I make it go to background(not as 
a background iamge) Thanks
  

  

  

  



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Re: [css-d] Lowest Z index not at back

2006-10-23 Thread ed gooddy
Thanks Rob, didn´t realize that about the postion: relative on the navbar div. 
I will try it out thanks a lot


Rob O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  ed gooddy wrote:
 Hi all,
 The navimager div 
 #navimager {
 z-index: 9; left: 250px; float: left; width: 186px; position: relative; top: 
 0px; height: 90px
 }
 
 in this page http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm has the highest z index but 
 it overlaps the other divs. Why? How can I make it go to background(not as a 
 background iamge) Thanks
 

 
Alright Ed,

I added position:relative to #navbar and that did the trick, z-index 
only works on elements that are positioned relatively, absolutely and 
fixed. I've not tested z-indexing fixed boxes so I don't know much about 
how it's handled cross-browser except that IE6 doesn't natively support 
position fixed.

Hope that helps,
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[css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread Les Mizzell

I need a define an area on a page where dynamic data will be displayed 
where CSS defined for that page has NO EFFECT on the area at all.

Basically inside a highly styled page:


div id=noCSS

pAnything the client want goes here,
   formatted however the heck the client
   wants formatted - total control up to the client./p

/div



Ideas?
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[css-d] Menu's Sticking in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Murphy, Percevial
Here is the page link: 
http://www.ecu.edu/cs-dhs/customcf/murphyp/sample3-4.html

I am not finished styling this so please ignore the appearance. It works
like I want it to in Firefox and Opera, but in IE, the submenus that
appear on the mouseover get stuck and won't go away. I have no clue as
to why.

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Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread Michael Stevens
I need a define an area on a page where dynamic data will be displayed where
CSS defined for that page has NO EFFECT on the area at all.

Basically inside a highly styled page:

div id=noCSS

pAnything the client want goes here,
   formatted however the heck the client
   wants formatted - total control up to the client./p

/div

Ideas?

--

I'm new to the list as of today so if my thoughts are retarded please be
kind... :)

Does your client know how to design the content? That is, can they code HTML
 CSS? If so I would think the easiest way would be just like above and make
the client design their own style sheet that you could link secondarily.
They would have to know that all their content stylization needs to be
preceded by the #noCSS id.

Just a thought...

Mike

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[css-d] css rule not working

2006-10-23 Thread Jon Rendle
Help, my first attempt at css and I'm already stuck!

I've just created a class called homepage-box within an id called
content. However, my css rule #content.homepage-box does not show any
rules I set (top border etc.), either in Dreamweaver's design view, or on
the uploaded page at www.devonweddingcakes.co.uk Here's the code, followed
by the css sheet. Can anyone help please?

body
div id=header
  a href=#img src=images/cake_logo.jpg alt=logo with close up photos
of cakes width=969 height=99 id=logo //a
  div id=header-bottom
ul
  lia href=#Home/a/li
  lia href=#About/a/li
  lia href=#Testimonials/a/li
  lia href=#Contact/a/li
  lia href=#Sitemap/a/li
/ul
  /div
/div
div id=content
  h1Cakes to celebrate any occasion/h1
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Wedding Cakes/a/h2
pWe can design and create your wedding cake according to your wishes.
Choose from traditional royal iced wedding cakes, sugarcraft cakes,
chocolate cakes, novelty cakes, and individual cup cake amp; mini cake
towers.img src=images/wedding_cake_chocolate.jpg alt=Wedding cake in
dark and milk chocolate width=200 height=294 //p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Corporate Cakes /a/h2
pMake your corporate event special with a cake from us. 25 years
experience of making these types of cake ensures that it will project
exactly the right image for your business. img
src=images/corporate_cake_first.jpg alt=Corporate cake iced with first
great western width=425 height=294 //p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Birthday Cakes/a/h2
pFirst birthday cakes, children's party cakes, 18th and 21st birthday
cakes, 40's 50's etc., right through to cakes for centenarians, everyone
needs a birthday cake! img src=images/birthday_cake_ship.jpg
alt=birthday cake with ship, train and dolphins width=304 height=294
//p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Novelty Cakes /a/h2
pLet your imagination run riot!Almost anything can be turned into a
cake. img src=images/novelty_cake_wolf.jpg alt=a cake shaped like a
wolfs head width=313 height=294 //p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Christening Cakes /a/h2
pChoose from contemporary or traditional cakes, tiered or non-tiered.
img src=images/christening_cake_tiered.jpg alt=Tiered christening cake
with baby on top width=297 height=294 //p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Anniversary Cakes /a/h2
pSilver, Ruby, Gold, Diamond anniversary - celebrate the achievement
with a fitting cake. img src=images/anniversary_cake_golden.jpg
alt=golden wedding anniversary cake width=287 height=294 //p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Photo Cakes /a/h2
pParticularly good for birthday and anniversary cakes, bring out those
treasured old photographs, and let us transfer them onto your cake. Also
great for any picture or image that's difficult to reproduce by traditional
icing methods.img src=images/photo_cake_corporate.jpg alt=a magazine
cover printed on a cake width=357 height=294 / /p
  /div
  div class=homepage-box
h2a href=#Other Cakes /a/h2
pLeaving cakes, retirement cakes, and any cake not in our other
categories.img src=images/retirement_cake_gardening.JPG alt=cake with
marzipan fruits and vegetables on top width=300 height=285 //p
  /div
/div


body {
font-size: 1em;
color: #00;
background-color: #FF;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
#header {
width: 100%;
}
#logo {
position: absolute;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
}
#header-bottom {
background-color: #CCFFCC;
height: 10px;
margin-top: 100px;
}
#header-bottom ul {
margin: 0px;
padding-top: 0px;
padding-right: 0px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
padding-left: 0px;
}
#header-bottom li a:link {
color: #00;
text-decoration: none;
}
#header-bottom li a:visited {
color: #00;
text-decoration: none;
}
img {
border-top-width: 0px;
border-right-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-width: 0px;
}


#header-bottom li {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 90%;
font-weight: bold;
display: inline;
margin-right: 2.4em;
}
#content {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 80%;
margin-top: 50px;
margin-right: 40px;
margin-left: 150px;
}
#content.homepage-box {
float: right;
width: 49%;
border-top-width: 1px;
border-top-style: solid;
border-top-color: #CCFFCC;

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Re: [css-d] css rule not working

2006-10-23 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 10/23/06, Jon Rendle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 However, my css rule #content.homepage-box does not show any
 rules I set (top border etc.),

 div id=content
   h1Cakes to celebrate any occasion/h1
   div class=homepage-box


#content.homepage-box is a single specifier for the element with id
content and class homepage-box.  Which would be redundant at best,
but you have no such element.

What you have is an element with class homepage-box *inside* an
element with id content.   That calls for a descendant specification,
which means you need a space between whatever matches the container
and whatever matches the containee:

#content .homepage-box
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[css-d] IE7 and Safari issues

2006-10-23 Thread Tom Livingston
Hi listers,

http://66.155.251.18/mlinc.com/06/clients/

Anyone see why IE7 is adding extra space to the right, causing horizontal
scroll when _above_ my min-width?

Also, in Safari and latest Webkit nightly, the 3 yellow thumbs and
Portfolio/White Paper links are too low on the page. They should line
up with the red thumb on the far right - like every other browser. Any
thoughts here? Of course, I could be going about the positioning is a
less than optimal way...


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Re: [css-d] css rule not working

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Jon,

 I've just created a class called homepage-box within an id called
 content. However, my css rule #content.homepage-box does not show any
 rules I set [...]

 #content.homepage-box

Your selector refers to any element which has an id attribute of value
content AND a class attribute of value homepage-box.

What you want is an element, which has your class attribute and is a
descendand of another element with id content.

Mind the gap!

This selector has a space between #content and .homepage-box:

#content .homepage-box

When in doubt about the meaning of certain selectors you will
certainly find the Selectoracle quite useful:

http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/

Cheers,

jens

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Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread cj
if i'm reading you right, you're asking how do i reset all styling
for this p so the customer has a clean slate?.

if i got that right, in your style sheet you'll have to do a reset
where you set the margin, border, width, etc back to normal.  this
could either be 0, auto, or none, depending on the property.  for
example if you wanted to negate any border the p might have, do a
border: none;.  then make sure that whatever the client is styling
has a higher specificity than your reset styles.
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[css-d] IE and Safari issues (UPDATE)

2006-10-23 Thread Tom Livingston
Hi listers,

http://66.155.251.18/mlinc.com/06/clients/

Anyone see why IE7 is adding extra space to the right, causing horizontal
scroll when _above_ my min-width?

Also, in Safari and latest Webkit nightly, the 3 yellow thumbs and
Portfolio/White Paper links are too low on the page. They should line
up with the red thumb on the far right - like every other browser. Any
thoughts here? Of course, I could be going about the positioning is a
less than optimal way...


Thanks a bunch for looking.


OK, I solved the Safari problem. Still have extra space in IE7...

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[css-d] Struggling with IE6 compatibility for Holy Grail

2006-10-23 Thread Alan Chandler
I have tried to use a modified version of AListApart's Holy Grail article to 
line up the columns on my site (URL in my signature).  The modification is 
that 

a) I have put columns in the header and footer,
b) Mostly I only have two columns instead of 3 - setting one of the column 
widths to 0.

But IE doesn't display it correctly, and I can't work out what is wrong.

In particular, the leftmost column in the header has id #logo, with a picture 
as the background image in the CSS.  It seems to disappear in IE6, although 
as you squash to width of the page down it suddenly jumps up and appears, but 
shifted down the page.

Can someone help me understand why, and help me fix it please.


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Re: [css-d] some sort of problem.

2006-10-23 Thread francky
Jon Hughes wrote:

http://www.phazm.net/stamps/products.html

[...]

Francky wrote: [...] to be continued.
= = =
Ending with 7 Golden Rules of Webdesign and Testpage-3 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-stampdepot-3.htm, 

here is a supplement.

For the left column I think a fixed width can be used. A liquid left 
column (in % of the screen width) would eat too much space of the 
content part, if the page is viewed in smaller resolutions. - The fixed 
width must be not too small either, to enable font scaling at 800x600. I 
came on about 200px, but that can be changed of course if desired. Then 
some adaptations of the nav-list have to be made, to use the available 
column width. Result is:

* Testpage-4
  
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-stampdepot-4.htm

Html-validator and css-validator still congratulate. [1] - Fine tuning 
(of fonts and so) can be done later. First the wilderness of white in 
the content column! ;-)
With a floating left column, a straight right column will fill the 
remaining space. A left margin is prohibiting the content to stream 
under the bottom line of the left column, in case the content column is 
longer than the left column. Result can be:

* Testpage-5
  
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-stampdepot-5.htm

Html-validator and css-validator still congratulate. [1] - So far with 
the testpages

Addendum to the Golden Rules:

   8. Write your css not in 1 line for each element, but 
  ONE LINE FOR EACH PROPERTY/VALUE ITEM.
  Then it is easier to read and to change: quick cut/copy/paste 
  of a line, moving to another element, and so on.

   9. Also in html: don't be soft for your hard disk, 
  DON'T COMPACT CODE. Give indents for all div's, ul's, li's 
  and other elements. Then it is easy to see what is what, and 
  especially where are the ends of the elements, and where a new 
  element is starting.

  10. The quick X-OUT METHOD can be used instead of commenting out 
  some line with /* ... */ (in css) or !-- ... -- (in html).
  Like this:
   #content {
margin: 5px;
xpadding: 10px;
}
  or this:
   div xid=content.../div
  If you forget to remove one later on, no problem: the css-
  validator or html-validator will help to remember.

  11. The A-B-C METHOD can be used to find out where on screen a 
  floating div is ending, and where a clear has to be given.
  Just type a plain letter a before the first /div, a letter 
  b before the second /div, and so on.
  Then the position of the letters is not influenced by properties 
  of a p or other containg element, which can be distracting or 
  moving the position.
  For better viewing, a 
   span style=background: yellow; color: red;a/span
  can be used, if needed.

To be continued!
francky

[1] Only alarming about the xborders, as described in Golden Rule #10. 
:-)
If css-validating with the button on the FF-DevelopersToolBar, then an 
alarm about invalid use of inline-block is given. But that is valid 
css2.1! Howcome? Because the default testing of the validator is in the 
older (unusual) css2. - If tested in css2.1, the inline-block is 
permitted (no more error). See:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.tiscali.nl%2Fdeveloperscorner%2Fcss-discuss%2Ftest-stampdepot-4.htmamp;warning=noamp;profile=css21amp;usermedium=all
 
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.tiscali.nl%2Fdeveloperscorner%2Fcss-discuss%2Ftest-stampdepot-4.htmamp;warning=noamp;profile=css21amp;usermedium=all

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Re: [css-d] IE and Safari issues (UPDATE)

2006-10-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Tom Livingston wrote:
 Hi listers,

 http://66.155.251.18/mlinc.com/06/clients/

 Anyone see why IE7 is adding extra space to the right, causing horizontal
 scroll when _above_ my min-width?

 Also, in Safari and latest Webkit nightly, the 3 yellow thumbs and
 Portfolio/White Paper links are too low on the page. They should line
 up with the red thumb on the far right - like every other browser. Any
 thoughts here? Of course, I could be going about the positioning is a
 less than optimal way...


 Thanks a bunch for looking.
 


 OK, I solved the Safari problem. Still have extra space in IE7...
   
If you mean with font zoom: I think your page performs as intended at 
text-size 'larger' and text-size 'largest' in IE7.0; and, that /IE.0 is 
flawed,/ not your page, at zoom using Ctrl + and zoom using percentage.
Regards,
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Re: [css-d] ie7 Suckerfish menu problems?

2006-10-23 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
 Anyone else had any problems with the Suckerfish dropdowns in ie7
 beta 3?

 I'll roll over one link which reveals the drop down list for that
 link but
 when I roll off the link the list doesnt go away. So if I roll over
 another
 link the previous list I had rolled over is still showing. Also, if
 the list
 has a second level it will show the first time I roll over it but if
 another
 link has a second level it doesnt pop out.

 Any cures for this?

If anyone's still experiencing a problem with this, I've posted a simple
fix at
http://www.builtfromsource.com/2006/10/23/a-fix-for-suckerfish-dropdowns-in-ie-7/

The gist is:

#menu li:hover, #menu li.hover {
position: static;
}

Hope that helps,

-Matt

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Re: [css-d] IE and Safari issues (UPDATE) / IE7 horizontal scrollbar

2006-10-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Tom Livingston wrote:
 Hi listers,

 http://66.155.251.18/mlinc.com/06/clients/

 Anyone see why IE7 is adding extra space to the right, causing horizontal
 scroll when _above_ my min-width?


IE 7 seems to have problems with the right floating ul and li with 
negative text-indent.


!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;

html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
   meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /

   title/title
/head

body
   ul style=float: right
 li style=text-indent: -1pxright/li
   /ul
/body
/html


This gives a huge scrollbar.

Disappointing.

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] Div positioning

2006-10-23 Thread francky
Pete Home wrote:

Sorry Guy's, the link should be
www.marylebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

Regards
Pete
  

It's a difficult link! ;-)
I got result on:
http://www.THEmarylebonejournal.com/newsite/o-gazetteer.asp

-Original Message-
From: Pete Home [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 October 2006 15:09
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: RE: Div positioning

Got even further now, and the problems with the pictures is resolved. I
forgot that I needed to float the picture before writing the text so the
text now flows around the picture.

I still have a couple of problems. Firstly, I cannot see why the
section_contents div has a horizontal scroll bar. I'm assuming it's
something to do you margins/padding. Also I have alternated the venues
inside a div with a class of bg0 or bg1 to alternate the background colours
however this seems to have no effect. Any ideas?

Regards
Pete
  

I took my bug hunting glasses, and see:
Validating first. - Html-validator is friendly pointing to a missing 
/div. Repaired, but no effect on the hor. scroll bar.
Css-validator is falling over the IE-hover expression for a tr; cannot 
have repercussions for the scroll bar...
Then I changed the:

#section_content { overflow: auto; } 
in
#section_content { overflow: visible; }

in order to see if there would be something visible with an indication.
Step 1 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-o-gazetteer-1.htm

Yes! The content is overflowing horizontally, so the hor. scoll bar is 
correct. Maybe the image someway? Removed:
Step 2 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-o-gazetteer-2.htm

Not. - O.k., then fundamental measures: removed everything except the 
header.
Step 3 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-o-gazetteer-3.htm

Aha! Now it is alright. See if we can add some problems. ;-)
Step by step, first the class='venutitle'.
Step 4 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-o-gazetteer-4.htm

Ha, bingo! What is it? This class has a width of 100% AND a padding-left 
of 20px; that is 20px too much. - Bringing the padding back to 0 is 
showing that even 100% is too much, because the vertical spacebar has 
some horizontal space too. - Some playing is delevering:

.venutitle {
width: 458px;
padding-left:20px;
margin-left: 2px;
}

Testing: Step 5 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-o-gazetteer-5.htm  
:-)

--- With respect to the background-colors: maybe a point before the bg0 
and bg1 in the css can help? (the css-validator doesn't react on that 
missing points!).

Success and greetings,
francky

BTW-1: The fixed very very small font-size is giving 
accessibility/usability problems in IE, even for visually 100% people, 
espacially at bigger screen resolutions (1280x1024 and more). The 
IE-folks cannot enlarge the font-size clientside...

BTW-2: The fixed format model is using only about 30% of the screen 
surface at 1280x1024...

BTW-3: The fixed very very small font-size in combination with the fixed 
format model is giving accesibility/usability problems in not-IE 
browsers as Firefox: if visitors enlarge the font-size, the design is 
gone...

All together: you could consider to make a more liquid model, without 
fixed font-sizes and without absolute positioned elements: automatically 
adapting to the screen and the needs of the visitor.



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Re: [css-d] css list

2006-10-23 Thread francky
Paul Novitski wrote:

At 10/22/2006 09:20 PM, Brian Jones wrote:
  

I have a 16px x 16px image that I want to set as the background image
of a li how would i go about setting my css to accomplish this


The simple answer is:

li#example
{
 width: 16px;
 height: 16px;
 background: url(something.jpg) left top no-repeat;
}

If the LI also contains text (as perhaps it should, to provide 
content in the absence of image support), what's the relationship of 
the text to the 16x16 image?  Is the text hidden?  Does it lie on top 
of the image?  What happens to that relationship as the text 
resizes?  Defining the situation in more detail will lead to more 
detailed solutions.

Regards,
Paul 

... and if you mean graphical bullets instead of the standard black 
dots, I've got this one (font-scaling proof) for you:

* 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-graphical-bullets.htm

Success and greetings,
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[css-d] Help with DIV Dissapearance in IE

2006-10-23 Thread Aaron Roberson
http://whitehorsemedia.com/broadcast/wnb/index.cfm

The div with the class .episode on the page above is not displaying in
Internet Explorer 6. There is a big blank space where the div and it's
contents should be instead.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: [css-d] more than css Zen Garden ?

2006-10-23 Thread francky
Bru, Pierre wrote:

hi all,
 
css Zen Garden is full of beautifull variations done via css on the same
html page. do you know other place like this one ?
 
TIA,
Pierre.

Yes, this one: http://www.gigastyle.be/
The page is in Dutch, the styles are in css.  ;-)
The headers translated:

Een voorbeeld van wat men kan bereiken met xhtml en css.
-- An example of what can be achieved with xhtml and css.

(Sidebar right  on the starting page!)
Gallerij
-- Gallery

Bronnen
-- Sources

Links
-- Links

(Content part)
De bedoeling
-- The goal (:: make a contribution!)

Hoe gaat dat?
-- How to do? (:: copy html, make css; submit)

Waarom allemaal?
-- Why all this? (:: to prove -yourself and the world- that beautiful 
things can be made without tables)

De verwachtingen
-- The conditions (:: new design, crossbrowser, valid css, working 
preview on own site)

Standaarden
-- Standards (:: links to validators)

... and the yell:
Kijk mama, zonder tabellen!
-- Look ma, no tables!

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Greetings,
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Re: [css-d] more than css Zen Garden ?

2006-10-23 Thread david
francky wrote:
 Bru, Pierre wrote:
 
 hi all,

 css Zen Garden is full of beautifull variations done via css on the same
 html page. do you know other place like this one ?

 TIA,
 Pierre.

 Yes, this one: http://www.gigastyle.be/
 The page is in Dutch, the styles are in css.  ;-)
 The headers translated:
 
 Een voorbeeld van wat men kan bereiken met xhtml en css.
 -- An example of what can be achieved with xhtml and css.

In my FF 1.5.0.7 on Linux, the justified text on their home page suffers 
from great rivers of white, columns of text fall out the bottom of what 
appear to be boxes that they're supposed to be in, and in general it 
looks, umm, cluttered and ugly.

And what is it using the Javascript for?

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[css-d] Fading Borders Extending a Column

2006-10-23 Thread Martin Davis
A big shout out to Georg for solving my previous problem. I now have
two questions which a quick search did not reveal CSS-D had answered
in a while.

I am trying to make fading borders on each side of my webpage. I am
currently using a div on the left and right my content, but I have to
have text inside the div and it does not extend the entire length of
the document.

I am also trying to force my right side column to continue to the
bottom of the page. However, both firefox and IE do not want to allow
it to expand all the way to the bottom. If you go to my link, it is
the black box on the right with the links in it.

http://smwstudios.com/Martin/

Thanks for the help so far.

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Re: [css-d] Fading Borders Extending a Column

2006-10-23 Thread David Merwin
Martin...

Go read this: http://alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

Will help you do what you are trying to do.


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On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:06 PM, Martin Davis wrote:

 A big shout out to Georg for solving my previous problem. I now have
 two questions which a quick search did not reveal CSS-D had answered
 in a while.

 I am trying to make fading borders on each side of my webpage. I am
 currently using a div on the left and right my content, but I have to
 have text inside the div and it does not extend the entire length of
 the document.

 I am also trying to force my right side column to continue to the
 bottom of the page. However, both firefox and IE do not want to allow
 it to expand all the way to the bottom. If you go to my link, it is
 the black box on the right with the links in it.

 http://smwstudios.com/Martin/

 Thanks for the help so far.

 --Martin
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[css-d] Famous CSS/Javascript menuins system

2006-10-23 Thread Wes Gamble
I've been lurking on this list for a while and there is almost always 
mention of some well known, currently fairly popular CSS (and Javascript 
I think) dropdown menuing scheme.  It has a very catchy name, but it 
escapes me.  Can anyone help me remember it? 

Thanks,
Wes Gamble
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Re: [css-d] Famous CSS/Javascript menuins system

2006-10-23 Thread Mark Wheeler
Hi Wes,

Was it Suckerfish? If so, here's the link:

http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/

Mark



On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:51 PM, Wes Gamble wrote:

I've been lurking on this list for a while and there is almost always
mention of some well known, currently fairly popular CSS (and Javascript
I think) dropdown menuing scheme.  It has a very catchy name, but it
escapes me.  Can anyone help me remember it?

Thanks,
Wes Gamble
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Re: [css-d] Famous CSS/Javascript menuins system

2006-10-23 Thread ~davidLaakso
Wes Gamble wrote:
 I've been lurking on this list for a while and there is almost always 
 mention of some well known, currently fairly popular CSS (and Javascript 
 I think) dropdown menuing scheme.  It has a very catchy name, but it 
 escapes me.  Can anyone help me remember it? 

 Thanks,
 Wes Gamble

   
Suckerfish/Son of Suckerfish
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
Sometimes known as the bane of some designer's existence (personal 
opinion :-) ).
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Re: [css-d] Famous CSS/Javascript menuins system

2006-10-23 Thread Al Sparber
 I've been lurking on this list for a while and there is almost 
 always
 mention of some well known, currently fairly popular CSS (and 
 Javascript
 I think) dropdown menuing scheme.  It has a very catchy name, but it
 escapes me.  Can anyone help me remember it?

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ListMenus

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