Re: [css-d] hr tag

2007-06-01 Thread Diego Muñiz
On 5/31/07, Ian Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Subject: Re: [css-d] hr tag
 
 
  Diego Muñiz wrote:
 
  It's better if you use elements in your markup instead of adding
  more stuffs
   only for look purposes, so like Ian said is better if you
  give a URL to
   see the problem.
 
  Hello,
 
  Sorry I thought I had given one:
 
  http://www.linkhomes2000.co.uk/trials/tryagain-index-3.php
 
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I give 2 links the first is aplying a border, and the second one using a
image for the division:

http://www.punisha.com/test/hr/index.html

http://www.punisha.com/test/hr/index_image.html

Keep code allways as clean as you can trying to avoid using markup
exclusively for presentation.

Diego
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Re: [css-d] hr tag

2007-06-01 Thread grovesdavid
Hello,

 to all who replied to this subject, and thank you all for your assistance 
in this matter.

Kind Regards

David G)
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Re: [css-d] float problem. Was: Born again CSS

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson
DO you have a mock pict of how you want the layers to look? As to what
order and where?
Also checkout
http://csscreator.com/divs-do-not-replace-tables
http://1976design.com/blog/archive/2004/09/07/link-presentation-fitts-la
w/


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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:34 AM
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Subject: [css-d] float problem. Was: Born again CSS

 Good morning list,

 After over 1 year of not messing with CSS i'm picking up CSS-design
 again and i'm stunned of how much i already forgot. I'm doing a
 mockup at the moment involving floats and they go crazy on me.

 On resizing the viewport the center float jumps down ... is there a
 kind soul out there that can point me in the right direction to get
 the floats sit tight?  Or maybe i'm on the wrong path and need
 absolute positioning?

 page: http://www.dzinelabs.com/projects/MP/Pages/test.html

 sheet: http://www.dzinelabs.com/projects/MP/Styles/Test%20nav.css  
  
 
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[css-d] Text that breaks out of veritcal flow

2007-06-01 Thread Dave M G
CSS-d,

On the following web site, I have a menu written in Japanese:
http://nihongode.jp

The text is a ul list, where each li item is constrained to a width 
of 1em. This forces each character to break to the next line, giving the 
appearance of veritcal orientation.

It almost works perfectly. Most of the text obeys the constraint. 
However, some text items, such as punctuation and certain half size 
Japanese characters, break out of the vertical flow and follow a 
left-to-right orientation.

I've included a thin red border around the text to make the problem more 
clear. Even if you don't read Japanese (not expecting you do, or 
assuming you don't), you can easily see that the three dot ellipses 
clearly break towards the right.

Although the site validates, I've only tested it in FireFox, and it 
almost certainly won't work in IE6. So I've provided the following 
screen shot in case what I'm describing shows up differently on other 
people's browsers:
http://nihongode.jp/Screenshot.png

Does anyone know why some characters are exceptional in how they display 
as compared to the other characters in a case like this?

And is there a way I can use CSS to more strictly impose a vertical 
layout on the text?

Thank you for any advice.

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[css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Michael S. Kirkpatrick
I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
figure out within the code on my own.

http://www.webjerks.com/
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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Eystein Alnaes

 I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more

space on LI).

 http://www.webjerks.com/


Looks ok here. There's a slight difference, but nothing bad. A couple of
other issues though.
- Why are there images (which don't load anyway) in the list? Would make
more sense to use these in the css.
- And why use an ordered list when you hide the numbering and hardcode it?

Eystein

http://thatnorwegianguy.wordpress.com/
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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope....please help

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson
First off I don't see your problem. (I'm using IE7)
However I might suggest you don't use .png because I'm getting a weird
png error.
Also you might change the image to a background image for your li.
Basically define it in your CSS instead of your links.
Also what are the span tags for?

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Subject: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my
ropeplease help

I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
figure out within the code on my own.

http://www.webjerks.com/
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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Lori Lay
Michael S. Kirkpatrick wrote:
 I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
 space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
 extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
 can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
 figure out within the code on my own.

 http://www.webjerks.com/

   
Your blk_button images don't seem to be on the server.  Also, as others 
have mentioned, I think you will get better results if you make them 
background images on the anchors or span elements.  That way the 
browsers won't be trying to make space for them and you should be able 
to control the spacing better.  Also, I would remove the absolute 
positioning from the span element and use margins to padding to get it 
into position.  The text is awfully hard to read and your visitors may 
want to bump up the font size to compensate.  Absolute positioning won't 
tolerate that very well.

Lori
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[css-d] yet another problem between IE and Firefox. (Can I throw IE out the Windows?)

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson
OK my links in IE are underlined but in Firefox they are not
They are not meant to be underlined.
 
http://www.2spoileddogs.com/
(under tab compare plans) word the bottom of the page
 
CSS
http://www.2spoileddogs.com/css_include.inc.php
 
Sarah
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[css-d] Extra line in LI border

2007-06-01 Thread Skip Evans
Hey all,

I have the CSS section below to style an AJAX 
powered collapsible menu using an unordered list.

All is great on FireFox and Safari, but on IE6 and 
IE7 there is an extra line below any top level 
menu LI that has children associated with it.

The code builds the whole menu, with the LI child 
items in place, but with a display=none set as 
default, and then changes to display=inline when 
clicked.

But when collapsed the parents show an extra thick 
line on the bottom, but as I said, only on IE6 and 
IE7.

Thanks!
Skip

The code...

.menu ul {
width: 100%;
   margin-left:0;
   padding-left:0;
}

.menu li {
  list-style: none;
  background-color: #9cabc4;
}

.menu li a {
 display: block;
 text-decoration: none;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #66;  
 color: #ff;
  padding-left: 3px;
  padding-top: 3px;
  padding-bottom: 3px;
}

.menu li a.current {
  color: #ed1d25;
  font-weight: bold;
}

.menu a:hover, .menu a.child:hover {
  display: block;
  text-decoration: none;
  border-bottom: 1px solid #66;
  background-color: #455e88;
  color: #ff;
}

.menu li a:visited { color: #ff; }

.menu li a.child { background-color: #bec8d9;
}

.menu li a.home {
  border-top: 1px solid #666;
}

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Re: [css-d] yet another problem between IE and Firefox. (Can I throw IE out the Windows?)

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson


-Original Message-
 
You have a severe case of divitis and I fear the only cure is to have a

look at

Lori



I'm using Project VII's magic menus and they use a lot of divs. I'm
putting 3 of their menus within yet another menu.





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Re: [css-d] yet another problem between IE and Firefox. (Can Ithrow IE out the Windows?)

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson


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Ithrow IE out the Windows?)


I'm using Project VII's magic menus and they use a lot of divs. I'm
putting 3 of their menus within yet another menu.

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I have found that my problem lies in the PVII tab menu. When I put an
accordion in it the accordion goes whack

http://www.2spoileddogs.com/test2.php



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[css-d] IE bumps content to right

2007-06-01 Thread Tom McNeer
Hi folks,

Please take a look at http://ids.mediumcool.com/index.cfm?event=showProcess.
(Actually, you're welcome to move around. The problem I'm trying to solve is
evident on every page but the home page.)

In IE 6 and 7, the text in the breadcrumb trail is bumped to right some
40-ish pixels. The element actually begins at the point where the red bottom
border dots begin.

In Firefox and Safari, the text displays correctly, in alignment with the
logo, the headline, and so on. And Firebug shows no padding values, either
specified or inherited, that would move the text over. The element has been
given layout.

Does anyone know why IE is doing this, please?

-- 
Thanks,

Tom

Tom McNeer
MediumCool
http://www.mediumcool.com
1735 Johnson Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30306
404.589.0560
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Re: [css-d] IE bumps content to right

2007-06-01 Thread Jon Hughes
I get this error when I go to your site:
Oops!
Message Model-Glue: There is no known event handler for
showProcess.

However, from the sound of it, it sounds like the Double-Margin bug.

Try applying a display: inline to the element, and that should fix it.

 - Jon

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Hi folks,

Please take a look at
http://ids.mediumcool.com/index.cfm?event=showProcess.
(Actually, you're welcome to move around. The problem I'm trying to
solve is
evident on every page but the home page.
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Re: [css-d] ie7 jumps on first page

2007-06-01 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

I just found out that removing the import for the stylesheet for just the
navigation styles makes most of the jumping go away in ie7:
@import url(../internal/css/navigation.css);

I still have the body using an imported stylesheet:
style type=text/css
!--
@import url(internal/css/prayer_index.css);
--
/style
link href=internal/css/navigation.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

Is it possible to use the imported stylesheet for the navigation and use
some hack for ie7?

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
Design Hosting, Inc.
www.designhosting.biz
479-471-0891


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 Subject:  ie7 jumps on first page
 
 Hi,
 
 When you go to this page in ie7 only it jumps from no css to the css
 styles and then when you refresh it doesn't jump.
 www.usprayercenter.org
 
 Is there a fix for this jumping in ie7 only?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sincerely,
 Melinda Odom
 Design Hosting, Inc.
 www.designhosting.biz
 479-471-0891 
 
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Re: [css-d] Int. Explorer 7 - need help - fixed

2007-06-01 Thread Kathy Wheeler
Hi Trish,

On 02/06/2007, at 5:38 AM, Trish Meyer wrote:
 In my case it was user error (I hope, waiting on confirmation from an
 IE7 user).

 http://www.vivagallery.org/exhibits/PSA_2007/index.html

Seems to work fine now - ie7, win XP home, under VirtualPC (on my Mac).

Would also appreciate hearing from *real* win ie7 people as I'm still  
evaluating VirtualPC as an alternative to a win box(es).

Cheers,
KathyW.
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Re: [css-d] Text that breaks out of veritcal flow

2007-06-01 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jun 2, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Dave M G wrote:

 On the following web site, I have a menu written in Japanese:
 http://nihongode.jp

 The text is a ul list, where each li item is constrained to a  
 width
 of 1em. This forces each character to break to the next line,  
 giving the
 appearance of veritcal orientation.

 It almost works perfectly. Most of the text obeys the constraint.
 However, some text items, such as punctuation and certain half size
 Japanese characters, break out of the vertical flow and follow a
 left-to-right orientation.

IE 7 does the same as Firefox.
But those are very special characters in Japanese writing, and hook  
up to the previous character.
Assuming you could get those characters (the ellips particularly) to  
display on their own line, it would still be wrong, as the 3 dots  
should be vertical. The other 2 characters as well are different in  
vertical writing.

For IE, you could use vertical text-writing, that works quite well.  
You will have to search MSDN for the details, I don't have the  
reference at hand. But only IE supports that.
Using images is a suitable alternative.

Philippe
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