Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread Ingo Chao
David Laakso wrote:
 I get frequent reminders from the guy that the thing [1] is supposed to 
 work in all versions of win/ie.
 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar 
 appreciated.
 Thanks.
 
 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/
 
 Best,
 
 ~dL
 

Looks great!

Don't know exactly what I have to look for. A small hint for tired me? 
A duplicated character in the Lorem ipsum text? :)

There is a difference in the margins of the floating small photographs 
in the columns, comparing IE7 (normal margins) and the rest of the IE's 
(duplicated). I think this is because IE7 is running in standards mode, 
despite your xml declaration.

In IE 7, an xml declaration no longer changes the rendering mode ... 
inserting a comment before the doctype (but after the xml declaration) 
will still trigger quirks mode in IE 7 [1]
[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html

But I fear this is not what you've meant.

Ingo

PS: For the anger management seminar: I thought this is what css-d is 
about.

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html


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Re: [css-d] Stop textarea expanding outside fieldset??? (when textsize changed)

2007-07-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Greg Hauptmann wrote:

 Can anyone confirm how to stop a TEXTAREA expanding outside the bounds of
 its enclosing FIELDSET (which has a border)

By setting

textarea { width: 97%; }

The reason for not setting the width to 100% is that a fieldset element 
has default padding (and it's normally not a good idea to remove it).

The reason for using width instead of the more logical max-width is that 
IE 6 does not support the latter.

 when the TEXT SIZE is changed
 (increased)???

The setting I mentioned works, with the usual CSS Caveats of course, 
independently of text size.

 Is this possible? via HTML or CSS or otherwise?

Via CSS. Not in HTML, since in HTML, you can set the width of a textarea 
as number of characters only, via the cols attribute. Note that the cols 
attribute is required by HTML syntax rules and should have a useful value, 
since it determines the width when CSS styling is disabled.

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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 08-Jul-07, at 10:55 AM, David Laakso wrote:

 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar
 appreciated.

 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

As always, I wish I'd picked out those colours myself. I tried very  
hard to break it in the browsers (all OS X) that I have available to  
me, to no avail. Perhaps that is a feature?

Best,
  - Rahul.
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[css-d] [CSS] :active problem

2007-07-08 Thread Thomas Thomas
Hi,
I have a link on which the user can click, which is actually an image (an
arrow).

When he clicks on the arrow, the arrowmust change color :

.jcarousel-skin-tango .jcarousel-next-horizontal {
[...]
background: transparent url(next-horizontal-1.bmp) no-repeat 0 0;
}

.jcarousel-skin-tango .jcarousel-next-horizontal:hover {
background: transparent url(next-horizontal-2.bmp) no-repeat 0 0;
}

.jcarousel-skin-tango .jcarousel-next-horizontal:active {
background: transparent url(next-horizontal-3.bmp) no-repeat 0 0;
}



In Mozilla when the user clicks on the arrow, the arrowis chaning to
next-horizontal-3.bmp for a short moment,
then next-horizontal-1.bmp.

But in IE the problem is that the image stays next-horizontal-3.bmp.

Can anyone help me with this ?

Thank u for any help !
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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 56, Issue 11

2007-07-08 Thread dan
Hello, thanks for your message but I'm on holiday now until the 16th July. 

If its urgent, please contact me on my mobile otherwise I'll get back to you on 
my return.

Kindest Regards
Dan.


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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread Donna Jones
 I get frequent reminders from the guy that the thing [1] is supposed to 
 work in all versions of win/ie.
 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar 
 appreciated.
 Thanks.
 
 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

David, I just opened up IE5.01 and, as far as I can tell, it works 
perfectly!  Good work!  could he be looking in IE4??!!  Find some stats 
that show no one uses IE4 anymore  ?  maybe he has something 
really weird going on with his IE(s).  I couldn't tell any difference 
between mozilla and IE5.01 and, without exploring very much more, that 
means it rates *excellent*, to me.

cheers and good luck finding an anger management seminar, I notice 
that no one has any suggestions

Donna



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Re: [css-d] [CSS] :active problem

2007-07-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Thomas Thomas wrote:

 In Mozilla when the user clicks on the arrow, the arrowis chaning to
 next-horizontal-3.bmp for a short moment,
 then next-horizontal-1.bmp.

 But in IE the problem is that the image stays next-horizontal-3.bmp.

Because IE is completely br0ken. In Gecko based browsers (Mozilla,  
Camino, SeaMonkey, Firefox), and other modern UA, as soon as the user  
release the mouse-button, the state is changed to a:focus (that is  
the expected behaviour: the link is not longer 'active' ='being  
clicked').
IE windows remains in the 'active' state, as long as the user doesn't  
click on something else in the page. Not much can be done about this,  
except rewriting the Trident rendering engine.

There might some javascript thingies floating around that forces IE  
to recognise the focus but not active state. I don't know, though.

PS = you should use a more web-friendly/cross-platform-friendly image  
format than .bmp (proprietary Windows), like .png or .gif.

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Re: [css-d] bg divs with banner

2007-07-08 Thread ron zisman

On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's the effect I'm trying to achieve (set up in images and HTML):
 http://ecologic.taopowered.net/templates/webtest/design4b.htm

 How do I set this up?

You may try this method...

 http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/us-nc/test-1.html

regards
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Re: [css-d] Does line-height override height in IE6 and lower?

2007-07-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Ingo Chao wrote:

 Matt Dawson wrote:
 ...
 I have an unordered list. Each list item is a single word long and has a
 height of 12px applied to it. However, in IE6, the base line-height I've
 applied earlier in the document (which is part of a collection of general
 browser reset rules I use for all my projects) is calculating to a value
 larger than 12px. In all browsers except IE6 and lower, changing the height
 does what I expect. That is, if I make the height of the list element 2px,
 all but 2px of the list element's content disappears. In IE6, because the
 line-height is calculating to a larger value, changing the height has no
 effect.

 Is this part of an already documented bug? ...

 It is called the expanding box bug
 http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html

I don't know what the OP's problem really is, since no URL was given, and 
the description made me confused - why would one set list element height 
two pixels? If the author wants to make the list items 12px high, it would 
seem to be appropriate to set their line-height to that value (though I 
doubt whether it's a good idea to want this).

Anyway, the document you mention is rather old and it describes some of 
the many consequences of IE's wrong treatment of overflow. In particular, the 
demonstrations do not demonstrate the problem on IE 7, since they have 
doctypes that trigger Standards Mode and in that mode, IE 7 handles 
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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread Luis Speciale
~davidLaakso a écrit :
 A page check with with whatever you are running is appreciated.
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/
   

Hi

Mac OS X
Firefox 2.0.0.4 and the geckos (Mozilla, Netscape)
#secondary img.rht {index.css (line 465)
display:block;
float:right;
margin:6px 3% 3px 0pt;   / Why ? In some cases text could touch your 
image, margin:3px; should not be better?
max-width:95%;
}

Safari
The last li don't touch the right border. Why ? I don't know. Maybe it 
needs some width ?

.menu li a.c6:hover, .menu li a.c6:active {index.css (line 315)
background-color:#660033;
border:3px double #FF;
color:#FF;
}
.menu li a.c6:link, .menu li a.c6:visited {index.css (line 309)
background-color:#94854F;
border:3px double #FF;
color:#FBFFDB;
}
.menu li a {index.css (line 241)
border:3px double #FF;
display:block;
margin:0pt 1%;
padding:3px 0pt;
text-decoration:none;
}

Inherited fromli

.menu ul li {index.css (line 232)
font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue','Luxi 
Sans',Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif;
font-size:110%;
font-size-adjust:none;
font-style:normal;
font-variant:normal;
font-weight:normal;
line-height:normal;
list-style-image:none;
list-style-position:outside;
list-style-type:none;
}

Opera 9.01
Same as Safari and the woman has a great right margin
#primary img.rht {index.css (line 401)
display:block;
float:right;
margin:6px 6% 3px 1%;
max-width:95%;
}

iCab (I know, only the author and I we use it)
TPLITC TODAY  The T of TODAY comes over the C of TPLITC

IE Explorer Mac did not find the CSS

And last a æsthetics opinion topnav could have the same background than 
header ?

#topnav {index.css (line 35)
background-color:#CCC473;
color:inherit;
left:0pt;
position:absolute;
top:0pt;
width:100%;
}

Hope it helps

Cordialement


Luis

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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread ron zisman

On Jul 8, 2007, at 1:25 AM, David Laakso wrote:

 I get frequent reminders from the guy that the thing [1] is  
 supposed to
 work in all versions of win/ie.

It does work just fine -- unless you count that the left add may  
overlap the last nav-element on extremely narrow windows and font- 
size 'largest'.

 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar
 appreciated.

For links to anger management seminars: ask Killer ... or maybe you  
want need one once you've had a chat with him.

 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

regards
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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread David Laakso
Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
 On 08-Jul-07, at 10:55 AM, David Laakso wrote:

 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar
 appreciated.

 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

 As always, I wish I'd picked out those colours myself. I tried very 
 hard to break it in the browsers (all OS X) that I have available to 
 me, to no avail. Perhaps that is a feature?

 Best,
  - Rahul.




Thank you, Rahul. And /if it were up to me/-- I'd strip out almost all 
of those  colors-- they just make it dirty and hard to read...

Regards,

~d
PS Nice to see you on the list after a long absence.


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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread tedd
At 1:25 AM -0400 7/8/07, David Laakso wrote:
I get frequent reminders from the guy that the thing [1] is supposed to
work in all versions of win/ie.
Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar
appreciated.
Thanks.

[1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

Best,

~dL

~dL:

When he says work, what does he mean?  It works in all my requirements.

As always, your design is exceptional and your presentation flawless 
-- few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good 
example.

Cheers,

tedd


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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread David Laakso
Luis Speciale wrote:
 ~davidLaakso a écrit :
   
 A page check with with whatever you are running is appreciated.
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/
   
 

 code and specific issues mentioned trimmed


 Luis


   

Luis, you have raised some very good points and  I appreciate your 
thorough and thoughtful reply.
I will look into and attempt to correct those issues.
Incidentally, mac/ie5.2 /is/ finding the style sheet and behaving 
correctly-- the styles are hidden from her using the @media screen {... 
} rule.
And I /think/ iCab is incorrectly handling the minus word-spacing for h1 
and h5. This has been hacked for win/ie 7 through 5.5 who also get it 
wrong. I think I'll just have to wait for iCab to catch up.
I agree with your aesthetic comment-- that was a client call, not mine.

Best,

~dL



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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread David Laakso
Donna Jones wrote:

 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/
 

 David, I just opened up IE5.01 and, as far as I can tell, it works 
 perfectly!  Good work!  could he be looking in IE4??!! ...trimmed]

 cheers and good luck finding an anger management seminar, I notice 
 that no one has any suggestions

 Donna



   


Thanks Donna. I neglected to mention that by all versions of IE I meant 
win/ie versions 7 through 5.

Best,
 
PS As far as anger management seminar is concerned, a liquid lunch may 
have to suffice.


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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread L Lay
David Laakso wrote:
 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

 Best,

 ~dL

   
It even works on my Dell laptop (IE 6) - with UseHR on or off.  FWIW, 
Lynx and Fangs are also happy.


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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread David Laakso
Ingo Chao wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
   
 I get frequent reminders from the guy that the thing [1] is supposed to 
 work in all versions of win/ie.
 Comments, suggestions, and links to an anger management seminar 
 appreciated.
 Thanks.

 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

 Best,

 ~dL

 


 There is a difference in the margins of the floating small photographs 
 in the columns, comparing IE7 (normal margins) and the rest of the IE's 
 (duplicated). I think this is because IE7 is running in standards mode, 
 despite your xml declaration.

 In IE 7, an xml declaration no longer changes the rendering mode ... 
 inserting a comment before the doctype (but after the xml declaration) 
 will still trigger quirks mode in IE 7 [1]
 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html

 But I fear this is not what you've meant.

 Ingo

 PS: For the anger management seminar: I thought this is what css-d is 
 about.

 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html


   

The xml declaration has been deleted. I put 6 and down in quirks 
temporarily to double check rendering between ie in quirks versus ie's 
flaky standards mode. Thanks for the reminder. I wonder if the small 
image issue may(?) have something more to do with poor coding practice,  
on my part, as all images in the content section are rendering a little 
/more/ strangely than they should depending on the OS/browser being 
used. I will attempt to do better.

Thank you.

~d

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Re: [css-d] page check :: ~dL

2007-07-08 Thread David Laakso
L Lay wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
   
 [1]  http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/ct1/

 Best,

 ~dL

   
 
 It even works on my Dell laptop (IE 6) - with UseHR on or off.  FWIW, 
 Lynx and Fangs are also happy.


 Lori

   
These are important considerations in my book, as is Phlippe's 
(off-list) recommendation to add the focus state to the links for 
keyboard users.

Thank you.
~d


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Re: [css-d] IE gives my nav more pixels

2007-07-08 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 07-Jul-07, at 7:12 AM, Max Lynch wrote:

 I have a horizontal menu displayed about 97px from the top of the  
 browser
 window. Above this are two divs, the left one displays an image and is
 displayed Inline, the right one displays another image and a small  
 form. My
 navigation menu is a ul and its position is relative.

 What im seeing in IE is my navigation is off by a couple pixels on  
 the top
 like there is a margin, but FireFox displays it fine.

[ trimmed ]

Sorry Max, no PC access at the moment. I would suggest removing the  
explicit height decorations; they are somewhat redundant.

In your #navMain rule, you have a 'border: none medium;'. I'm not  
sure what browsers do with that rule, but I would suggest removing  
it, along with the 'position: relative;'.

You are also drawing an unnecessary horizontal scrollbar, even when  
my browser window is maximised (~1280px). Furthermore, you have 50px  
of padding on your footer, which looks excessive, in my opinion.


Best,
  - Rahul.
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[css-d] Horizontal Navigation

2007-07-08 Thread Gpalz
Hello List Members,

I'm in the process of designing my website with CSS for the first time. 
I have a CSS sub navigation using an icon graphic only (no text).

In IE 7 everything aligns pretty good. However, in Firefox 2.0 (win XP) 
the icons seem to be shifted about 5-6 pixels downward. Only the top 2/3 
of the icon is showing. It seems the li tag is being pushed downward. 
Any ideas? - George

NOTES:
I added the black border around the ul tag for visual purposes.

In the list, I'm using a transparent spacer.gif to generate the hover 
state and showing the actual icon with the background element.

Firefox vs IE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/subnav.jpg

PAGE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/gallery.html

CSS (see /* PORTFOLIO SUB NAVIGATION */ code block):
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/stylesheet/style3b.css


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Re: [css-d] IE and FF difference killing me...

2007-07-08 Thread Richard Grevers
On 7/5/07, Mark Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have submit this same problem over the last couple of days, but the
 problem persists! The site layout is very simple, a fixed width column, with
 a centred image for the header. However, IE pushes the image 1 px left and
 off center whereas FF treats it as expected... A test page demonstrating the
 issue is here: www.helpusmarry.co.uk/test/

 I am using IE6...

 Someone please explain what is happening! The coding is so basic, the only
 issue I have is with the positioning of the header img, the page is just a
 quick knock up to illustrate the problem. I have tried using a background
 image with css, and inserting the img directly into the html document with
 identical results.


If I stare really really hard I can just see the problem at some
viewport widths (IE and Opera) - given that it comes and goes as you
change the viewport width it is almost certainly a rounding error.
You could try eliminating the text-align:center on body, or serving it
only to IE 5.5 and older (plus ensure IE6 is in standards mode)


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[css-d] Firefox and IE - and using opencube

2007-07-08 Thread Lauri Pantos
Hi.  I have used opencube to create 2 menus -a top and side navigation; I have 
then taken a dreamweaver css template and used cfinclude and included the two 
menus.  The purpose , of course, is to allow any changes to the menus to show 
up on every page.  although the page is not quite where i want it to be, its 
fine in ff and terrible in IE 7..
please help!
http://www.amda.com/education/annsym08/nav3.cfm

Thanks.
Lauri

 






   

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[css-d] Site check for good housekeeping

2007-07-08 Thread Frank Burleigh
Hello, list.  We've been working on this site:
http://firms.law.indiana.edu/about/blank.shtml

devoted to the empirical research of law firms and markets.

The intended audience is an academic one, and the browser level is the 
Geckos, IE 6 and 7, Safari, hopefully Opera--behaving browsers plus IE6. 
  I've tested what I can here (IE 6 and 7, Fox 2.x, 3.x alpha on 
Windows; Fox 2.x on Linux) and Fox 1.5x and Safari 2.x at browsershots.org).

I'd appreciate your review.  I'm interested in any critique you'd care 
to make, including visual design and its CSS design and implementation. 
  The elements in the CSS mix include:

- faux column
- negative margin on a floated element
- flexible content column
- content and more info/navigation sit in a centered box

I've also included some comments in the CSS to say the role and 
relationship among some key rules (as I see that, anyway).

My own comments are these:

- across-site navigation needs more visual work

- right-side more info use needs consultation with client on IA

- IE6 appears to ignore sidenav negative margin, pushing both it and
pagebox's right margin far to the right.  I overcame that with 
relative positioning, hopefully fed to IE Win 6 and less alone.  Is 
there a better fix than crud in the CSS?

- the floated-left content column includes a 6px top border that 
allows me to see the width the div does not consume.  It would be great 
to consume all the available width, but so far I haven't been able to 
achieve that without breaking the layout.

- I'd wanted flexible page gutters (hinted with percent margins).  But 
the left and right 1px border on pagebox has an expected bad effect on 
pagebox's width, and in IE we get scroll bars.  Rather than add another 
level of containment in the html, I gave up, and made the gutters fixed 
width. ;-)

Thanks everyone.
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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation

2007-07-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
However... removing those 5 pixels would probably
throw off the alignment in IE...

Hmmm...

Rick

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Subject: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation

Hello List Members,

I'm in the process of designing my website with CSS for the first time. 
I have a CSS sub navigation using an icon graphic only (no text).

In IE 7 everything aligns pretty good. However, in Firefox 2.0 (win XP) 
the icons seem to be shifted about 5-6 pixels downward. Only the top 2/3 
of the icon is showing. It seems the li tag is being pushed downward. 
Any ideas? - George

NOTES:
I added the black border around the ul tag for visual purposes.

In the list, I'm using a transparent spacer.gif to generate the hover 
state and showing the actual icon with the background element.

Firefox vs IE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/subnav.jpg

PAGE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/gallery.html

CSS (see /* PORTFOLIO SUB NAVIGATION */ code block):
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/stylesheet/style3b.css


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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation

2007-07-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, George...

Just a stab in the dark here, but I was looking at your
subnav.gif image and was wondering if you took off
5 pixels of the bottom so that the bottom black area
matched the border between the other colors, would the
gray area then display properly?

Taking off 5 pixels would make the total image height 66
and the 5 pixels you remove could account for 5 pixel
shift downward...

I can't test this idea since I can't substitute a
cropped image...

Rick


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gpalz
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:55 PM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation

Hello List Members,

I'm in the process of designing my website with CSS for the first time. 
I have a CSS sub navigation using an icon graphic only (no text).

In IE 7 everything aligns pretty good. However, in Firefox 2.0 (win XP) 
the icons seem to be shifted about 5-6 pixels downward. Only the top 2/3 
of the icon is showing. It seems the li tag is being pushed downward. 
Any ideas? - George

NOTES:
I added the black border around the ul tag for visual purposes.

In the list, I'm using a transparent spacer.gif to generate the hover 
state and showing the actual icon with the background element.

Firefox vs IE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/subnav.jpg

PAGE:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/gallery.html

CSS (see /* PORTFOLIO SUB NAVIGATION */ code block):
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/stylesheet/style3b.css


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[css-d] Bottom Chunk of Site Content Not Showing in IE6

2007-07-08 Thread Jade True
Hi all!

I'm working on http://www.zencart137.jadetrue.com.

I recently made some changes as I wanted the site to be source  
ordered; now I'm using some absolute positioning, and for some  
unbeknownst reason, IE6 isn't scrolling all the way down the page.

Can someone help me figure this out?

Thanks!
Jade True
www.sagefish.com



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[css-d] Resizing leads to big trouble in little china

2007-07-08 Thread Edward Spodick
Hello all!

I have been working on a design mockup - a copy of which is now at
http://lbzm02.ust.hk/pagetest/mockup2.html

Currently it validates for css and xhtml 1 transitional, and people here are 
mostly very happy with it.

The big problem I am trying to eliminate is the moving/pushing down of much of 
the main right column if the window is smaller or the font-size is larger - in 
IE and FireFox and others.  Clearly I have a conflict somewhere, but I cannot 
find it.  To be honest, I am not very skilled at CSS - it's fun but 
aggravating.  :)

-Edward Spodick, Hong Kong
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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation

2007-07-08 Thread Gpalz
Hey Rick,
I gave it a shot, but that didn't fix it either.

I believe the problem stems from the transparent spacer.gif I'm using in 
the list to activate the hover state. When I remove the img tag in the 
list and replace it with text, the  alignment issue is corrected in FF.
Getting closer

Change from this:

ul class=subnav
lia href=#img src=images/spacer.gif width=16 height=17 
alt= border=0 //a/li
lia href=#img src=images/spacer.gif width=16 height=17 
alt= border=0 //a/li
/ul

to this:

ul class=subnav
lia href=#One/a/li
lia href=#Two/a/li
/ul

gets me this:
http://gpalzproductions.com/v3/subnav2.jpg





Rick Faircloth wrote:
 However... removing those 5 pixels would probably
 throw off the alignment in IE...
 
 Hmmm...
 
 Rick
 

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Re: [css-d] IE gives my nav more pixels

2007-07-08 Thread Max Lynch
Thanks for the tips Rahul. I will spend some time and make those adjusments.


I did fix the problem by the way. I forgot about the comment on the very top
on my HTML file for the front-page, so IE was operating in Quirks Mode. I
failed to check this because i removed it on every-other page :) After i
removed this the nav menu is drawn perfectly, the way i want it anyway.

Thanks for your response.

On 7/8/07, Rahul Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07-Jul-07, at 7:12 AM, Max Lynch wrote:

  I have a horizontal menu displayed about 97px from the top of the
  browser
  window. Above this are two divs, the left one displays an image and is
  displayed Inline, the right one displays another image and a small
  form. My
  navigation menu is a ul and its position is relative.
 
  What im seeing in IE is my navigation is off by a couple pixels on
  the top
  like there is a margin, but FireFox displays it fine.

 [ trimmed ]

 Sorry Max, no PC access at the moment. I would suggest removing the
 explicit height decorations; they are somewhat redundant.

 In your #navMain rule, you have a 'border: none medium;'. I'm not
 sure what browsers do with that rule, but I would suggest removing
 it, along with the 'position: relative;'.

 You are also drawing an unnecessary horizontal scrollbar, even when
 my browser window is maximised (~1280px). Furthermore, you have 50px
 of padding on your footer, which looks excessive, in my opinion.


 Best,
   - Rahul.




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