Re: [css-d] IE issues with element width

2008-01-22 Thread Marten Gallagher
 www.captureintegration.com

 I apologize for making this my first post. I hope I can make
 contributions to this community after I have a little more
 experience, but for now I am a lost newbie.

 I have managed to style a Wordpress website to my liking after many
 months of experimentation (I am a photographer, not a web
 designer).

 The website renders as I want it to in firefox and safari (both win and
 mac versions). In IE7 the main element is rendered too
 wide and is forced below the sidebar.  I've honestly tried googling to
 get an answer since I'm sure it is not complicated, but
 all I could find was references to quirks mode and I relatively sure I
 am not in quirks mode. Like I said, I am a photographer,
 and find it difficult to decode the gobbly-gook of cross-platform 
 compatibility.

 Could someone give me a hand in figuring out why this element is wider
 in IE7 than firefox/safari. I would really appreciate
 it!

I have had a look but sorry don;t have time to diagnose completely but it
looks like it is the IE arithmetic tripping it up.

Have you tried reducing the width of the bloque/noticias wherever it has a
set width? Usually this is due to bad percentage calculation by IE but I
cannot find any percentage widths set but I am sure that's the place to
look.

Or give the 'everything' container a tad more width?

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[css-d] whiteout Problem on IE7

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Armitage
Hy Folks,

I'm working on a specific bug on the site I'm developing right now for
something like a week and its driving me crazy. The Site is rendered
on IE6 and FF like intended (some minor positioning glitches), but on
IE7 a whole part of the Site just disappears after you start using it
until you force a redraw of the window (by resizing the browser i.E.).
If anybody has an idea how to get rid of that Problem I would be
infinitely thankful.

Summary:
URL: http://ca.communalaudit.at
User: demosubscriber
Pass: demouser

Scenario:
1. After Log in click on one of the entries in the left sidebar (i.E.
Wasserversorgung)
2. Now start scrolling around a bit.
3. Enter some values in the input Fields and tab to the next (auto
save should occur)
4. Hover over a question text until you see an Information icon. On
Click this Icon should open a Description Field for the Question.
(this contains some invalid legacy markup which will be cleaned out
and has nothing to with the problem, i tried it)

5. Sooner or later the #main div (containing the questions) will
whiteout until you resize the browser window.

Any Help greatly appreciated

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[css-d] Margin (?) problem with menu.

2008-01-22 Thread rollandburn
Hi everyonecan anyone spot the Waldo in my css on this page... my  
dev site is athttp://public.alliancepacific.com/Corporate/About_Us

I am having a hard time finding out why the top level UL's appear to  
have a margin which does not allow the menu to squeeze up to the header.

If anyone could give me a hand I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!
rolland


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Re: [css-d] Footer CSS Coding

2008-01-22 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Rick Good schrieb:
 I've designed a site that works:

   www.themeridiangrp.com

 In creating the footer though I needed to set each page separately,  
 e.g.,

 .meridian #footer_650, #footer_700, #footer_750, #footer_800,  
 #footer_900, #footer_950, #footer_1000, #footer_1050, #footer_1150,  
 #footer_1250, #footer_1300, #footer_1400, #footer_1450, #footer_1500,  
 #footer_1600, #footer_1700, #footer_1800, #footer_1900, #footer_2000,  
 #footer_2250, #footer_2500, #footer_4800 {
   position: absolute;
   left: 0px;
   padding: 0;
   ...
 }

 .meridian #footer_650 {
   top: 650px;
 }

 .meridian #footer_700 {
   top: 700px;
 }

 This should not be necessary, but everything I've tried - including:

 .meridian #footer {
   position: absolute;
   bottom: 40 px;
   left: 0 px;
   ...

 does not work.

 Since it's working I'm not overly concerned, but I would like to know  
 the right way to do it.

 Thanks.

 Rick
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Hello,

what exactly are you trying to achieve? Something like stickyFooterAlt: 
http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/

Best regards,

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Re: [css-d] Margin (?) problem with menu.

2008-01-22 Thread David Laakso
rollandburn wrote:
 Hi everyonecan anyone spot the Waldo in my css on this page... my  
 dev site is athttp://public.alliancepacific.com/Corporate/About_Us

 I am having a hard time finding out why the top level UL's appear to  
 have a margin which does not allow the menu to squeeze up to the header.

 If anyone could give me a hand I would really appreciate it.

 Thanks!
 rolland
   




Reduce the height set on the header to around 146px.

Best,
~dL


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[css-d] Footer CSS Coding

2008-01-22 Thread Rick Good

I've designed a site that works:

www.themeridiangrp.com

In creating the footer though I needed to set each page separately,  
e.g.,

.meridian #footer_650, #footer_700, #footer_750, #footer_800,  
#footer_900, #footer_950, #footer_1000, #footer_1050, #footer_1150,  
#footer_1250, #footer_1300, #footer_1400, #footer_1450, #footer_1500,  
#footer_1600, #footer_1700, #footer_1800, #footer_1900, #footer_2000,  
#footer_2250, #footer_2500, #footer_4800 {
position: absolute;
left: 0px;
padding: 0;
...
}

.meridian #footer_650 {
top: 650px;
}

.meridian #footer_700 {
top: 700px;
}

This should not be necessary, but everything I've tried - including:

.meridian #footer {
position: absolute;
bottom: 40 px;
left: 0 px;
...

does not work.

Since it's working I'm not overly concerned, but I would like to know  
the right way to do it.

Thanks.

Rick
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Re: [css-d] Margin (?) problem with menu.

2008-01-22 Thread rollandburn
jeezthat was too easy.   Sometimes when you stare at something for  
hours on end its hard to see the simple solutions.

thanks alot David.


On 22-Jan-08, at 11:01 AM, David Laakso wrote:

 rollandburn wrote:
 Hi everyonecan anyone spot the Waldo in my css on this page...  
 my  dev site is athttp://public.alliancepacific.com/Corporate/About_Us

 I am having a hard time finding out why the top level UL's appear  
 to  have a margin which does not allow the menu to squeeze up to  
 the header.

 If anyone could give me a hand I would really appreciate it.

 Thanks!
 rolland





 Reduce the height set on the header to around 146px.

 Best,
 ~dL


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Re: [css-d] Margin (?) problem with menu.

2008-01-22 Thread Ray Leventhal
rollandburn wrote:
 Hi everyonecan anyone spot the Waldo in my css on this page... my  
 dev site is athttp://public.alliancepacific.com/Corporate/About_Us
 
 I am having a hard time finding out why the top level UL's appear to  
 have a margin which does not allow the menu to squeeze up to the header.
 
 If anyone could give me a hand I would really appreciate it.
 
 Thanks!
 rolland
 
 
 From what I can see, it's the h3 element in sidebar which has the space 
above it, just below the menu:

you have:
#sideBar h3 {
border-bottom:1px solid #CC;
color:#003462;
font-size:1.1em;
margin: 10px; /* adds 10px all around */
padding:0px;

I changed that commented line (in Firebug) to

margin: 0 10px;

And things looked a bit more 'together'.

I'm sure more advanced minds will have better answers :)

HTH,
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[css-d] : The way IE6 clears

2008-01-22 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Hello,

it seems to me that Firefox or IE7 - if an object has clear: left, right 
or both - only clear floated objects up to a parent that is positioned 
absolutely or relatively. IE6 seems to clear all floated objects on the 
page.

Is that correct?

I have a two column layout: left menu column and main content column.
The left menu is floated left.
The content (position: relative) contains blog entries, thus several 
divs following each other. Every div contains
- title
- main text, may contain left or right floated images
- footer div with link to comments

I had to set the floated images to position: relative because 
otherwise they go under the blog enrty divs (in terms of z-order) and 
thus are hidden.

When the main text is short, but there is a floating image, in IE6 the 
footer goes right under the main text. Thus I thought I can set the 
footer to clear: both. But then it clears the left menu column as well...

The page isn't public therefore I cannot provide a link.

Best regards,

Christian
*Directmedia Publishing GmbH* · Möckernstraße 68 · 10965 Berlin
www.digitale-bibliothek.de
AG Berlin-Charlottenburg · HR B 58002 · USt.Id. DE173211737
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Re: [css-d] Footer CSS Coding

2008-01-22 Thread James Leslie
I've designed a site that works:
www.themeridiangrp.com
In creating the footer though I needed to set each page separately...


--

Hi Rick,

The site may work for you, but try resizing your text up a couple of
notches and you'll find that a lot of it disappears beneath your footer
and cannot be viewed.
Position:absolute, in general, is not really the best way to position
large blocks as it removes that area from the flow of the page.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#absolute-positioning

I'd suggest that you maybe try a different layout, something like this
one should work for you:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/developing_with_web_standards/csslayou
t/2-col/

Hope that helps,

James

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Re: [css-d] Footer CSS Coding

2008-01-22 Thread David Laakso
Rick Good wrote:
 I've designed a site that works:

   www.themeridiangrp.com



 Since it's working I'm not overly concerned, but I would like to know  
 the right way to do it.

 Thanks.

 Rick

   


A page or site working on the Web is relative to any users discretion. 
Font-scaling and reducing window width kind of does a number on your page.

Layouts that rely on absolute positioning for the base structure and set 
of height on content containers are often brittle in the sense they 
break easily with any variation whatsoever from what the author dictated.

Float structured layouts that do not restrict height, let the browser 
software determine height based on the amount of content in containers, 
and  clear the footer-- tend to do much better regardless of user 
discretion.

It's not so much a matter of the right way to do it, as it is a matter 
of how can one be a good host or hostess to whomever visits our site.

Best,
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Re: [css-d] menu box that floats with scrolling

2008-01-22 Thread Gabriel Padoan
I simply use for this:

HTML
div class=fixed
Foo Bar
/div

CSS
.fixed {position:fixed;}

Hope it help -- ;-)

On Jan 21, 2008 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello lists.css-discuss.org

 I have seen the effect on at least two sites, one of which is
 http://www.quirksmode.org/css/display.html

 For PPK's example, I saved the page in which
 show site navigation, show page contents
 stay visible as I scroll down the view.
 Disabling the *.js file stops those menus from opening, but not from
 scrolling, suggesting control is by the CSS.
 His structure uses DIV to nested depth four.

 Simple copy and paste into a new file did not work.
 Please explain.

 Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] Footer CSS Coding

2008-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Good wrote:
 www.themeridiangrp.com



 .meridian #footer { position: absolute; bottom: 40 px; left: 0 px; 
 ...
 
 does not work.

You're absolute positioning all main elements, which means the
#container doesn't stretch the full pageheight since A:P elements don't
take up space and can't be contained.

#container and body only contains the header, and only a CSS error
(check with the CSS validator) prevents body from collapsing completely.

 Since it's working I'm not overly concerned, but I would like to know
  the right way to do it.

1: it doesn't _really_ work since you've based your top:values on an
unaltered font-size, and font-size is a variable in all browsers.
This means content is overflowing and parts are hidden at my end, since
I require a larger font-size than you have anticipated.

2: you can use floats and float-containment for main elements
(containers), and must then remove _all_ absolute position references
for main elements.
This will make the #container/body expand to allow for
bottom-positioning as your CSS example shows, and also allow you to
simply clear a non-positioning footer below the other non-positioned
elements. These are the right methods - if right is the right word
here, and they'll both work regardless of content-/page-height.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Position image at bottom of cell containing text

2008-01-22 Thread Ray Leventhal
John Nichel wrote:
 Hi,
 
With our company being between designers at the moment, some of the 
 day to day tasks of our site have fallen into my lap (hey, you're in IT, 
 you fix the web site).  What I'm trying to accomplish seems like it 
 should be pretty simple, but the solution has escaped me.
 
If you look at this page here: 
 http://www.kegworks.com/product.php?productid=18754 you will notice that 
 the Add to cart buttons under If You Like This, You May Also Like... 
 do not line-up across the page.  I've been trying to force these input 
 images to line up with the bottom of the table cell containing them, but 
 nothing I've done seems to have worked.  I have tried using an 'inline 
 style', tried creating a new style, etc.  I've used things like 
 align=bottom, vertical-align: bottom|baseline|absbottom, etc.  However, 
 the images stay in their current position.
 
Can anyone give this old sysadmin some pointers, or point me to some 
 documentation which will explain this to me (even if it cannot be done)? 
   Thanks.
 
Hi John,

As this was thrown into your lap, I'll refrain from commenting on the 
tables within tables within tables withinad nauseum design

If you change the following:
td width=149 valign=bottom height=190 align=center 
style=border-right: 1px solid rgb(203, 192, 167); padding: 0px;
/td
td width=149 valign=top height=190 align=center 
style=border-right: 1px solid rgb(203, 192, 167); padding: 0px;
/td
td width=149 valign=top height=190 align=center 
style=border-right: 1px solid rgb(203, 192, 167); padding: 0px;
/td
td width=149 valign=top height=190 align=center 
style=border-right: 1px solid rgb(203, 192, 167); padding: 0px;
/td

by changing all the 'valign=top' references to 'valign=bottom'
your buttons will line up evenly.

HTH,
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[css-d] Horizontal Vertical scroll bars appear in IE even tho overflow: hidden

2008-01-22 Thread Juanita
Hi List,

I'm having a problem that's driving me nuts.

I have a scrolling message in an iframe, and it looks perfect in Firefox,
Netscape  Opera, the problem is only in IE

Problem #1

the iframe (style is inline) is flush left. Putting any sort of margin or
padding messes it up in the other browsers.

Problem #2

There is a vertical scroll showing even tho I have overflow: hidden 

Does anyone know what's going on - or how to fix it?

Here's the page - and Thanks!!

http://www.kcsm.org/marquee.php

Thanx,

Juanita, Webmaster
KCSM TV/FM
650.524.6927
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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Vertical scroll bars appear in IE even tho overflow:

2008-01-22 Thread Juanita
Much Thanx Georg

In the meantime - we also figured out a workaround. Due to conflicting
style on our page, we set the left  right margin to be the same!

Thanx,

Juanita, Webmaster
KCSM TV/FM
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Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM
-0800 wrote:
Juanita wrote:

 I have a scrolling message in an iframe, and it looks perfect in 
 Firefox, Netscape  Opera, the problem is only in IE

 http://www.kcsm.org/marquee.php

The quick fix...

iframe
src =marquee_iframe.php style=overflow:hidden; height:4.5em;
width:32.5em; border:0; padding: 0; margin:0 0 .75em 0; _margin-left:
20px; scrolling=no

...where 'margin-left' targets IE6 (and older) using the leading
underscore hack, and the 'scrolling-attribute' is set to no.
Not the nicest fixes in the book, but they work with no negative
side-effects in your case.

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Re: [css-d] Horizontal Vertical scroll bars appear in IE even tho overflow: hidden

2008-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Juanita wrote:

 I have a scrolling message in an iframe, and it looks perfect in 
 Firefox, Netscape  Opera, the problem is only in IE

 http://www.kcsm.org/marquee.php

The quick fix...

iframe
src =marquee_iframe.php style=overflow:hidden; height:4.5em;
width:32.5em; border:0; padding: 0; margin:0 0 .75em 0; _margin-left:
20px; scrolling=no

...where 'margin-left' targets IE6 (and older) using the leading
underscore hack, and the 'scrolling-attribute' is set to no.
Not the nicest fixes in the book, but they work with no negative
side-effects in your case.

regards
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