Re: [css-d] Faking float: center, or making blocks flow centered. Impossible?

2008-02-26 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Sander Marechal wrote:

 I want something that
  behaves sort of as float: center if that would exist. Or as an inline
  block.

  Say I have two divs of 200x200 pixels. When the page is 500 pixels wide
  I would like these blocks to be next to each other, but centered on the
  page. So, 50px space on the left, then two 200px blocks next to each
  other and then another 50px space on the right.

  However, when the page width shrinks I would like these blocks to flow
  as centered text would flow. Say you resize the page to be 300px wide.
  Then I would like 50 px whitespace on the left, two 200px blocks on top
  of each other and then another 50px whitespace on the right.


As you say, display:inline-block could be used here. The problem is
that Firefox 2 doesn't support it (FF3 will), and IE needs hacking to
'emulate' it.
I have some pages with several hacks to try to get this effect, you
can have a look: [1], [2].

Hth,
Bruno


[1] http://brunildo.org/test/indext1.shtml
[2] http://brunildo.org/test/ImgThumbIBL2b.html

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[css-d] Rounded corners on menu

2008-02-26 Thread Albert van der Veen
Hi list,

I would like to round the corners, using css, on this site: 
http://www.ediec.org
Menu should size when one increases/decreases the font.

Examples of sites that do this (rounded corners on all corners, not just 
tabs) are much appreciated.

thanks,
Albert

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Re: [css-d] Rounded corners on menu

2008-02-26 Thread Jake Churchill
http://jake.cfwebtools.com/index.cfm/2008/2/13/CSS-Rounded-Corners 

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Hi list,

I would like to round the corners, using css, on this site: 
http://www.ediec.org
Menu should size when one increases/decreases the font.

Examples of sites that do this (rounded corners on all corners, not just 
tabs) are much appreciated.

thanks,
Albert

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[css-d] When printing: How to use page-break-inside et al.]

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Hello,

I am adding additional css code for printing. An exemplary webpage can 
be found here:
http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/A/C%C3%A9zanne,+Paul
http://www.zeno.org/Main.css

I would like to prevent the browser from breaking a page within the 
thumbnail boxes, which is what FF and IE7 do right now. With my FF page 
settings, the last section that is begun ion the first page has the 
heading Grafiken (5). Then a row with the first 4 thumbnails is 
printed. But the labels for those thumbnails do not fit on the page. 
Thus only the thumbnail images are printed. The border around each image 
is not printed to the bottom og the page, but it ends somewhere in the 
middle. The next page begines with the remainder of that row. Which is 
the borders (this time too much of it) and the labels. IE7 behaves similar.

I've attached page-break-inside: avoid; to several elements but it 
doesn't work as I would expect.

I've attached page-break-after: avoid; to the div.zenoTHImage and 
page-break-before: avoid; to the div.zenoTHText, but still the page 
break is ugly.

Is there any way to keep those thumbnail/label blocks together. I don't 
need to keep them all together, just row by row.

Regards,

Christian Kirchhoff
*Directmedia Publishing GmbH* · Möckernstraße 68 · 10965 Berlin
www.digitale-bibliothek.de
AG Berlin-Charlottenburg · HR B 58002 · USt.Id. DE173211737
Geschäftsführer: Ralf Szymanski · Erwin Jurschitza
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Re: [css-d] Float Issue In IE

2008-02-26 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Thanks Guys!

http://e7flux.com/new/new.html

Adding a complete URI helped fixed the broken layout.
I'm encountering a couple of other problems however: 

The logo NJ.com in the upper left in the #topnav div
is not showing up in Windows FF. It is a link and I
also need it to swap out on hover with its background
highlighted counterpart (this effect is not working in
any browser). Not sure I set the CSS right but that's
the effect I'm aiming for. Any suggestions?

The BOTTOMRIGHT div is using a 78% white tiling png
in the background, which of course shows opaque in
IE6. I attempted to use the opacity property on the
#container div with the color property set to white
but it didn't work. Any suggestions here?

Another thing I wouldn't mind some insight on, is why
the divs contained in the #container div didn't seem
to be affected at all by the top and bottom padding
set on the container? The floated divs seem to be
laying on top of the container as opposed to within -
I expected the container height to adjust according to
the amount of padding plus the height of the floated
divs but that's not what happened. Just trying to
understand the behavior that's going on here. Any
insights would be more than welcomed :). 

Again TIA!!!
Elli 

PS to Thierry - In my personal work I set my DTD to
Strict but at work they use Transitional which is
beyond me why they don't just go Strict already!

  Hello Elli,
  
  Because you're not using a complete DOCTYPE URI
 that includes system
  identifier, IE is working in Quirks Mode which
 triggers ...   
  http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
 
 Good catch!
 I found that it gets the box model wrong and I don't
 even think of checking
 if it is running in Quirks mode, duh!
 
 As a side note, a DTD *without* an URI can trigger
 standard-compliant mode,
 for example:
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Strict
 //EN
 
 What triggers quirks mode is the missing URI or the
 presence of
 Transitional - depending on how one wants to look
 at it ;)
 




  

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[css-d] Getting Rid of White Background

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Gates
I am trying to port over a menu I have on the main part of my site to a
page that is outside the site template. But in adapting the css so the
menu text is white I seem to be having a problem with IE6/7. It is showing
the whole block as white (the text is there but it, too, is white
(which is what I want) and the links are working).

I've tried commenting out all indications of colored backgrounds in any
menu nav element (the menu that appears on the rest of the site has a lot
of background: #fff;) but that doesn't seem to help. I don't know where 
that white background is coming from. Can anyone tell me?

The page in question: http://inourpath.com/map/maps2.html
To see the original menu scroll to the bottom of this page: 
http://inourpath.com/intro.html

Any help would be appreciated. Thx.

Jeff

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Re: [css-d] Getting Rid of White Background

2008-02-26 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Jeff Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to port over a menu I have on the main part of my site to a
  page that is outside the site template. But in adapting the css so the
  menu text is white I seem to be having a problem with IE6/7. It is showing
  the whole block as white (the text is there but it, too, is white
  (which is what I want) and the links are working).

  I've tried commenting out all indications of colored backgrounds in any
  menu nav element (the menu that appears on the rest of the site has a lot
  of background: #fff;) but that doesn't seem to help. I don't know where
  that white background is coming from. Can anyone tell me?

  The page in question: http://inourpath.com/map/maps2.html
  To see the original menu scroll to the bottom of this page:
  http://inourpath.com/intro.html

  Any help would be appreciated. Thx.

  Jeff

You're trying to comment out CSS style rules by adding a #, which is
illegal and would make more confusion if browsers interpert it as ID
style-hookers! If you want to comment out a syle rule or one of its
declarations do it in the form:

/* property: value; */

In particular you have this in your CSS:

#nav_map .current a { display:block; height:20px; float:left;
#background:#fff; padding:0 10px 0 10px; text-decoration:none;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: .85em;
font-weight: bold; text-transform: uppercase; text-decoration: none;
border-bottom: none; line-height:20px; letter-spacing: .10em;
white-space:nowrap; #border-right:1px solid #fff; color: #fff;}

Such code is really problematic and before you clean it up, I really
can't help to figure out where the real problem lies.

Regards,
Usamah
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Re: [css-d] Getting Rid of White Background

2008-02-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeff Gates wrote:

 I've tried commenting out all indications of colored backgrounds in 
 any menu nav element (the menu that appears on the rest of the site 
 has a lot of background: #fff;) but that doesn't seem to help. I 
 don't know where that white background is coming from. Can anyone 
 tell me?
 
 The page in question: http://inourpath.com/map/maps2.html

FYI: IE/win interprets '#background:#fff;' as 'background:#fff;', so the
# is not disabling the property in _that_ browser.

The addition of...

ul, a {background: transparent!important;}

...will of course override all instances of white background on the
relevant elements - as a temporary solution.

regards
Georg
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[css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread vincent pollard
what's the best way to do this?

thanks in advance.

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Re: [css-d] Getting Rid of White Background

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Gates
 Jeff Gates wrote:
 
  I've tried commenting out all indications of colored backgrounds in 
  any menu nav element (the menu that appears on the rest of the site 
  has a lot of background: #fff;) but that doesn't seem to help. I 
  don't know where that white background is coming from. Can anyone 
  tell me?

 The addition of...
 
 ul, a {background: transparent!important;}
 
 ...will of course override all instances of white background on the
 relevant elements - as a temporary solution.

Thanks Georg. That did the trick. 

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Re: [css-d] PVII Tab hitting below navigation

2008-02-26 Thread Christina Hawkins :: GlobalSpex
Thank you for noticing and bringing it to my attention. I reverted to your
CSS solution. I believe it solved other issues I was having.
Thank you!!

Christina Hawkins
www.globalspex.com

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 Thank you, Al.
 I'll be sure to see if it'll work. I did find a solution by just by 
 adding a bottom margin and changing it from clear:both to clear:right 
 to the p7TPclear class.

 I'll also try to remember the knowledgebase.

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Your page does not look very good in Firefox right now so you might want to
look at using a solution developed specifically for the product :-)

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Re: [css-d] Faking float: center, or making blocks flow centered. Impossible?

2008-02-26 Thread Sander Marechal
Bruno Fassino wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Sander Marechal wrote:
 
 I want something that
  behaves sort of as float: center if that would exist. Or as an inline
  block.
 
 I have some pages with several hacks to try to get this effect, you
 can have a look: [1], [2].
 
 [2] http://brunildo.org/test/ImgThumbIBL2b.html

Ohh, number 2 is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks!

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Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
vincent pollard wrote:

 what's the best way to do this?

You need to ask a more specific question.

The content of a table cell, whether within an a element (not tag) or 
not, automatically wraps when needed, unless you prevent this somehow - 
provided that there is a space inside the content, or some other 
character that a browser treats as allowing a line break.

So please provide a URL and explain the specific problem.

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Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread vincent pollard
i have a table with a bunch of links in it, a tags.
one of the links is long and has no spaces so the a tag is pushing out the
table beyond it's set width.
how do i force the a to wrap?

On 26/02/2008, Jukka K. Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 vincent pollard wrote:

  what's the best way to do this?


 You need to ask a more specific question.

 The content of a table cell, whether within an a element (not tag) or
 not, automatically wraps when needed, unless you prevent this somehow -
 provided that there is a space inside the content, or some other
 character that a browser treats as allowing a line break.

 So please provide a URL and explain the specific problem.

 Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca)
 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

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Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 Of vincent pollard
 
 i have a table with a bunch of links in it, a tags.
 one of the links is long and has no spaces so the a tag is pushing out
the
 table beyond it's set width.
 how do i force the a to wrap?

You can plug a WBR element in the URL:

averylongurlthatdoesnotwantwbrtowrapnomatterwhatItry

That should work in IE 6, 7 and Firefox (not Safari); and for Opera I
believe the following would work:

wbr:after {content:\00200B;}

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[css-d] Image Background On Hover Isn't Working

2008-02-26 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Hello,

The logo NJ.com in the upper left in the #topnav div
isn't swapping out with it's highlighted counterpart
on hover. Not sure I set the CSS right but that's
the effect I'm aiming for. Also, the image doesn't
show up sometimes in Windows FF. Or at least it wasn't
showing earlier though it seems to be now. Any
suggestions on how I can get the images to swap out on
hover for the logo? 

http://e7flux.com/new/new.html


  

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[css-d] Opacity Filter Not Working in IE

2008-02-26 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Hello,

I have a bottomright div that I'd like transparent -
it works in FF but not in IE. 

Can someone take a look and provide any suggestions?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!

http://e7flux.com/new/new.html

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Re: [css-d] Image Background On Hover Isn't Working

2008-02-26 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Elli Vizcaino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 The logo NJ.com in the upper left in the #topnav div
 isn't swapping out with it's highlighted counterpart
 on hover. Not sure I set the CSS right but that's
 the effect I'm aiming for. Also, the image doesn't
 show up sometimes in Windows FF. Or at least it wasn't
 showing earlier though it seems to be now. Any
 suggestions on how I can get the images to swap out on
 hover for the logo?

 http://e7flux.com/new/new.html


  
 
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Hello,

A background image is just that, a _background_ image. You cannot swap
it with the actual image in the markup (i.e. the img element), IMO.

You know, when you encounter such problem when something so trivial
just doesn't work, it's always good to validate both the HTML and CSS.
At times a forgotten closing tag or a closing brace } can you make you
scratch your head for hours trying to solve an issue to no avail. By
looking at your code, you're mistakenly advancing the element's name
before the class selector for the sitelogo class, which is incorrect

You have: li a.sitelogo {...} [Incorrect]
It should be: li sitelogo.a and li sitelogo.a:hover respectivley!

Yet, to achieve the effect you're after, declare the logo image to li
a.sitelogo as well and add a transparent background-color to the img
element so it degrades gracefully.

Hey: I guess you're editing the page while I've been testing and
debugging it, and I can tell that brought me into the greatest
confusion I've had in a while. :D

Regards,
Usamah
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Re: [css-d] forcing a a tag to wrap within a table

2008-02-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Thierry Koblentz wrote:

 Of vincent pollard

 i have a table with a bunch of links in it, a tags.
 one of the links is long and has no spaces so the a tag is pushing
 out the table beyond it's set width.
 how do i force the a to wrap?

 You can plug a WBR element in the URL:

Which URL? I saw no URL (though I asked for one). You seem to assume 
that the link texts are URL, and this might be the case (it's not 
uncommon to use URLs as link texts), but then the answer is probably 
that the link texts should be rewritten.

When a table cell contains a longish string with no spaces in them, it 
is generally not a good idea to try to set the cell width smaller than 
needed for the string. At the abstract level, there is no way to decide 
where the string could be broken; it depends on the string and its 
meaning.

 averylongurlthatdoesnotwantwbrtowrapnomatterwhatItry

URLs generally should not be wrapped at all. When necessary, there are 
guidelines on permissible break points _and_ on delimiters intended to 
indicate that a URL has been broken.

 That should work in IE 6, 7 and Firefox (not Safari); and for Opera I
 believe the following would work:

 wbr:after {content:\00200B;}

Interesting. It does work (on Opera 9.10 at least). But as such, wbr 
is a non-CSS method for doing things (and generally the only practical 
way when you wish to permit line breaks inside a string that would not 
otherwise be broken).

Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca)
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ 

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