[css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread MEM
Hello,

 

Problem: 

1)  How can I change the align of the UL list to the right ?

2)  After that, how can I add a right margin to it so that the lists
stays away from the right screen border?

 

 

 

Inside a container div with this properties:

 

#container {

width:933px;

margin:0px auto 0px auto;

overflow:hidden;

}

 

I have this code to start making a navigation menu:

 

.mainlinks#navigation {

width:933px;

margin:0px auto 0px auto;

height:50px;

background-color:#FF9933;

}

 

. mainlinks#navigation ul{

margin: 0;

padding-left: 0;

float: left;

font-weight: bold;

width: 100%;

}

 

* html . mainlinks#navigation ul{ /*IE only rule. Delete extra
margin-bottom*/

margin-bottom: 0;

}

 

. mainlinks#navigation ul li{

display: inline;

}

 

 

. mainlinks#navigation ul li a{

float: left; /*If I change this value to right I get the itens align on the
right side BUT the items orders are wrong.!*/

color: gray;

font-weight: bold;

padding: 2px 6px 4px 6px;

text-decoration: none;

}

 

.mainlinks#navigation ul li a:hover{

color: black;

background-color: #F3F3F3;

border-bottom: 4px solid black;

padding-bottom: 0;

}

 

 

 

I'm stuck here. I have tried text-align:right; on the #navigation BUT,
nothing happens. I've also tried (desperately) making text-align:right; on
all the # but nothing! :(

 

Help! Plz. :(

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Re: [css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
MEM wrote:

 1)  How can I change the align of the UL list to the right ?

It depends on what you mean by that. You can set
ul { text-align: right; }
to align each line in the list content to the right. But this might not be 
what you really want. I suspect that you also want to put the list bullets 
to the right - otherwise it looks a bit odd. In that case, things are a bit 
tricky.

You can set
ul { direction: rtl; }
but then there will be surprises if you have directionally neutral parts of 
text, like (1), in the content. In that case, I'm afraid you would have to 
add extra markup for them, like lispan.../span/li, and use e.g.
ul li span { unicode-bidi: embed; direction: ltr; }

 2)  After that, how can I add a right margin to it so that the
 lists stays away from the right screen border?

The obvious answer is something like
ul { margin-right: 1em; }
If that doesn't do what you want, then you need to specify what you really 
want.

If you use the technique I mentioned for putting the bullets on the right, 
then the default margin will be on the right (since that's part of the 
defined meaning of direction: rtl).

 Inside a container div with this properties:

Please post a URL in future when describing specific problems. A URL is 
_much_ more useful than fragments of code.

 . mainlinks#navigation ul{

You have syntax errors in your CSS code. It's advisable to use the checker
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

 I'm stuck here. I have tried text-align:right; on the #navigation BUT,
 nothing happens.

Probably the CSS syntax errors cause that.

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Re: [css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
 MEM wrote:
 Hello,

  

 Problem:
 1)  How can I change the align of the UL list to the right ?

 2)  After that, how can I add a right margin to it so that the lists
 stays away from the right screen border?

  

  

 . mainlinks#navigation ul li a{

 float: left; /*If I change this value to right I get the itens align 
 on the
 right side BUT the items orders are wrong.!*/

 }

  

  

 I'm stuck here. I have tried text-align:right; on the #navigation BUT,
 nothing happens. I've also tried (desperately) making 
 text-align:right; on
 all the # but nothing! :(

  

   




Have you tried position: absolute on the ul?
Please see http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/test-63.html



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[css-d] Conceptual Guidance - content outside viewport

2008-11-01 Thread WEZ!
Heya All,

I've been trying to find a solution to a concept I want to implement 
in a template I'm working on.

I want to have a variable width, centered content block which has a 
background image that is wider than the content and doesn't create 
scroll bars when the viewport is reduced to the width of the content 
or less. The methods I've tried so far have either failed to achieve 
the outcome of have resulting in scroll bars making the extra imagery 
accessible.

Initially I would be aiming to get an image in the background but I 
can see numerous uses for actual content in the area the viewport 
ignores (content img with a background image behind for effects or 
dynamic effects not critical for content). There is no overflow code 
that allows the content to be rendered outside its block and not to 
instigate scroll bar creation. I've tried negative margin blocks 
which create a scroll bar.

If I haven't made the concept clear enough (most likely) here is a 
fixed width site with a basic version of what I'm after... 
http://www.sc2armory.com. That site uses a fixed background image on 
a fixed width site but I need the background imagery split into two 
chunks so the content can vary width dynamically.

At the moment all I need is a direction of attack. I'm sure it is 
possible to produce the effect I'm after i just don't know the 
technique and can't find it so far.

Wesley Lamont

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Re: [css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote:
 Hello,

  

 Problem: 

 1)  How can I change the align of the UL list to the right ?

 2)  After that, how can I add a right margin to it so that the lists
 stays away from the right screen border?

  

  

 . mainlinks#navigation ul li a{

 float: left; /*If I change this value to right I get the itens align on the
 right side BUT the items orders are wrong.!*/

 }

  

  

 I'm stuck here. I have tried text-align:right; on the #navigation BUT,
 nothing happens. I've also tried (desperately) making text-align:right; on
 all the # but nothing! :(

  

   


Have you tried position: absolute on the ul?
Please see http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/test-63.html

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[css-d] Sidebar not expanding content div

2008-11-01 Thread Christopher Kip
Hi all,

works in IE but in all others can't figure out why the sidebar is  
extending past the container vs. the container expanding to fit.  I  
have done this many times before, though slightly different layouts  
and not had problems.  Maybe a fresh pair of eyes...

http://chromacreative.com/testingserver/tritech/site/template.html


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[css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height value is defined?

2008-11-01 Thread MEM
CSS Basic Question: Background Color:

If I quit the height value, I get no background color. Why?

I want a background color, but I don't want the extra bottom space that the
height value gives to me. :s 

How can we have a background without the height?


Here is the code.


.mainlinks#navigation {

position:relative;
width:933px;
margin:0px auto 0px auto;
height:50px; 
background-color:#FF9933;

}

Thanks again,
Márcio

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Re: [css-d] center problem - img gallery

2008-11-01 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Philippe, 

It was foretold that on 01/11/2008 @ 11:04:04 GMT+0900 (which was
00:04:04 where I live) Philippe Wittenbergh would write:

snipped a bit

 when you scale down the font-size, you bump into the min- 
 width set on #container (width set in em, it will scale up/down with  
 font-resizing, but at one point the width will be smaller than the min-
 width)
 But the gallery will continue to scale down, that is the width will  
 become smaller than the that of the column.

I  see  ...  The  whole  layout  depends  on  the  fact  that i wanted
everything scale nicely with font-setting but keep the logo centred at
all  times  (i.e.  not scale). So the min-width (in px) is set to the width of
the logo (in ems). It's like you say... at one point it _will_ break.
As far as i could tell when bumping up the font-size it's doing all
right, just when scaling down the font-size it will break.

 
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Re: [css-d] Sidebar not expanding content div

2008-11-01 Thread David Laakso
Christopher Kip wrote:
 Hi all,

 works in IE but in all others can't figure out why the sidebar is  
 extending past the container vs. the container expanding to fit.  I  
 have done this many times before, though slightly different layouts  
 and not had problems.  Maybe a fresh pair of eyes...

 http://chromacreative.com/testingserver/tritech/site/template.html


   


Try:
#footer {clear: both;}
Whatever this is, why does it have a height set on it? Or, why does it 
have two different heights set on it?
.pagewrapper #viewercontainer {
height: 1400px;
height: 95px;
}

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Re: [css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height value is defined?

2008-11-01 Thread MEM
Thanks...
I've but overflow: hidden; (but my nav items disappear). :s

I just wanted to understand why, but I understand that THAT could be a bit
difficult if we don't see all the code and examples...
Anyway, I have put the height value and I was getting a difference on 1px
between IE and FF, but now, (I don't know why) it's ok.

So no problem. Thanks a lot.

Q:How can I had space between li on a ul ?
R:Use the margin value not the padding one. :D
(this is only to stay on the mailing list).



Thanks a lot all, for the help. I now have a nice layout with 3 columns and
a navigation that is ugly, and with redundant CSS code (I'm sure of it), but
it will get better.

Regards,
Márcio

-Original Message-
From: David Laakso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: sábado, 1 de Novembro de 2008 17:10
To: MEM
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height
value is defined?

MEM wrote:
 CSS Basic Question: Background Color:

 If I quit the height value, I get no background color. Why?
   


Because, I guess,  it has no layout (no dimension).


 I want a background color, but I don't want the extra bottom space that
the
 height value gives to me. :s 

 How can we have a background without the height?


 Here is the code.


 .mainlinks#navigation {

 position:relative;
 width:933px;
 margin:0px auto 0px auto;
 height:50px; 
 background-color:#FF9933;

 }

 Thanks again,
 Márcio

   

Re-set to:

.mainlinks#navigation {
position:relative;
width:933px;
margin:0px auto 0px auto;
height:50px; - :: delete ::
padding: 0 0 1.75em 0;- :: add and check with font-scaling
::
background-color:#FF9933;

}




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Re: [css-d] Conceptual Guidance - content outside viewport

2008-11-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
WEZ! wrote:

 At the moment all I need is a direction of attack. I'm sure it is 
 possible to produce the effect I'm after i just don't know the 
 technique and can't find it so far.

This method may be a place to start...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_40.html

- Only content-container creates horizontal scroll-bars.
- Content-container can scale - I've used em-width.
- Visual background positions adjusts horizontally relative to
content-container on both sides.
- Can easily handle multiple backgrounds inside/outside viewport.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height value is defined?

2008-11-01 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote:

 Q:How can I had space between li on a ul ?
 R:Use the margin value not the padding one. :D
 (this is only to stay on the mailing list).



 Thanks a lot all, for the help. I now have a nice layout with 3 columns and
 a navigation that is ugly, and with redundant CSS code (I'm sure of it), but
 it will get better.

 Regards,
 Márcio
   




Increase the padding right and padding left on the
ul li a
selector?

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Re: [css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height value is defined?

2008-11-01 Thread Blake
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:21 AM, MEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CSS Basic Question: Background Color:

 If I quit the height value, I get no background color. Why?

Try adding:

.mainlinks#navigation { overflow: hidden; }

It sounds like your nav items are floated, and therefore the container
will not explicitly stretch to accommodate them unless you force it
to.

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Re: [css-d] Sidebar not expanding content div

2008-11-01 Thread Bill Brown
 Christopher Kip wrote:
 works in IE but in all others can't figure out why the sidebar is  
 extending past the container vs. the container expanding to fit.  I  
 have done this many times before, though slightly different layouts  
 and not had problems.  Maybe a fresh pair of eyes...

 http://chromacreative.com/testingserver/tritech/site/template.html

Maybe this'll help:

.pagewrapper #container {
   overflow: hidden; /* -- Compliant Browser Float Clearing */
   }

Best,
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Re: [css-d] Sidebar not expanding content div

2008-11-01 Thread Thierry Koblentz
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brown
 Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:51 AM
 To: Christopher Kip
 Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Sidebar not expanding content div
 
  Christopher Kip wrote:
  works in IE but in all others can't figure out why the sidebar is
  extending past the container vs. the container expanding to fit.  I
  have done this many times before, though slightly different layouts
  and not had problems.  Maybe a fresh pair of eyes...
 
  http://chromacreative.com/testingserver/tritech/site/template.html
 
 Maybe this'll help:
 
 .pagewrapper #container {
overflow: hidden; /* -- Compliant Browser Float Clearing */
}

I'd move this to #content as it seems to be a closer ancestor.
But the interesting part is that the issue appears to be related to a
missing class in the styles sheet. There is a structural hack in the
markup to clear floats after #mainContent:

br class=clearfloat /

But I can't find .clearfloat in the sheet.
In any case, your suggestion should allow the OP to remove the above from
the markup.



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Re: [css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread Sandy


Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
 MEM wrote:
 
 
1)  How can I change the align of the UL list to the right ?
 
 
 It depends on what you mean by that. You can set
 ul { text-align: right; }
 to align each line in the list content to the right. But this might not be 
 what you really want. I suspect that you also want to put the list bullets 
 to the right - otherwise it looks a bit odd. In that case, things are a bit 
 tricky.
 
 You can set
 ul { direction: rtl; }
 but then there will be surprises if you have directionally neutral parts of 
 text, like (1), in the content. In that case, I'm afraid you would have to 
 add extra markup for them, like lispan.../span/li, and use e.g.
 ul li span { unicode-bidi: embed; direction: ltr; }
 
 
2)  After that, how can I add a right margin to it so that the
lists stays away from the right screen border?
 
 
 The obvious answer is something like
 ul { margin-right: 1em; }
 If that doesn't do what you want, then you need to specify what you really 
 want.
 
 If you use the technique I mentioned for putting the bullets on the right, 
 then the default margin will be on the right (since that's part of the 
 defined meaning of direction: rtl).
 
 
Inside a container div with this properties:
 
 
 Please post a URL in future when describing specific problems. A URL is 
 _much_ more useful than fragments of code.
 
 
. mainlinks#navigation ul{
 
 
 You have syntax errors in your CSS code. It's advisable to use the checker
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
 
 
I'm stuck here. I have tried text-align:right; on the #navigation BUT,
nothing happens.
 
 
 Probably the CSS syntax errors cause that.



http://sandyfeldman.com/test/testlist.html
is this something like what you mean?

Sandy

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Re: [css-d] UL align - question.

2008-11-01 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Sandy wrote:

 http://sandyfeldman.com/test/testlist.html
 is this something like what you mean?

Pardon? Your two-liner was preceded by a comprehensive quote of my message. 
That wasn't very constructive, and it seems that you didn't really want to 
ask _me_ anything - your demo doesn't use the technique I described.

Instead, it suppresses the default bullets and uses background images to 
create bullets on the right. An interesting trick, and it avoids need for 
extra markup. On the other hand, it implies, among other things, that on 
printing, there are no bullets (since background images are normally not 
used there). This might not be serious for a navigation menu, though, since 
it should probably be completely suppressed in a print style sheet. (But how 
many authors do that?)

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Re: [css-d] UL align - question. (sorry)

2008-11-01 Thread Sandy


http://sandyfeldman.com/test/testlist.html
is this something like what you mean?
 
 
 Pardon? Your two-liner was preceded by a comprehensive quote of my message. 
 That wasn't very constructive, and it seems that you didn't really want to 
 ask _me_ anything - your demo doesn't use the technique I described.
 
 Instead, it suppresses the default bullets and uses background images to 
 create bullets on the right. An interesting trick, and it avoids need for 
 extra markup. On the other hand, it implies, among other things, that on 
 printing, there are no bullets (since background images are normally not 
 used there). This might not be serious for a navigation menu, though, since 
 it should probably be completely suppressed in a print style sheet. (But how 
 many authors do that?)
 



sorry Jukka.

I thought that this list included the previous post in a new one, and I 
jumped the gun, replied to your email instead of to the original poster, 
and I wasn't reading carefully either or I would have given print style 
a thought.

s/
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Re: [css-d] Basic CSS Question: Why no background when no height value is defined?

2008-11-01 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote:
 CSS Basic Question: Background Color:

 If I quit the height value, I get no background color. Why?
   


Because, I guess,  it has no layout (no dimension).


 I want a background color, but I don't want the extra bottom space that the
 height value gives to me. :s 

 How can we have a background without the height?


 Here is the code.


 .mainlinks#navigation {

 position:relative;
 width:933px;
 margin:0px auto 0px auto;
 height:50px; 
 background-color:#FF9933;

 }

 Thanks again,
 Márcio

   

Re-set to:

.mainlinks#navigation {
position:relative;
width:933px;
margin:0px auto 0px auto;
height:50px; - :: delete ::
padding: 0 0 1.75em 0;- :: add and check with font-scaling ::
background-color:#FF9933;

}




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[css-d] Still have not solved...

2008-11-01 Thread Majestic
Hello, I never did get any of the info on how to solve the problem I
was having with my div being cut off in IE6,  I was hoping someone
could help me?
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