Re: [css-d] Links work but Parts of Div is hidden
Christopher R wrote: I've got the images to load now the problem is that the images are hiding behind the white box. Post to: http://csscreator.com/css-forum/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Links work but Parts of Div is hidden
Answer below where it belongs! ;-) Christopher R wrote: I've got the images to load now the problem is that the images are hiding behind the white box. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:52 AM david gn...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Christopher R wrote: Alright, I have gotten my links to work but if you take a look you'll see that my big banner\logo graphic gets cut off and I'd really like to know to bring it forward ? You can see exactly what is happening at: http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/imagepage5.html Well, I just looked at it in FF3/Linux and don't see any graphics at all except the window background and the man's face in lower right corner. This happens both with and without Javascript enabled ... The FF web developer toolbar reports 5 broken images: 1. http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/navgraphic.png 2. http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/gallerybottonbw.png 3. http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/animationbottonbw.png 4. http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/blogbw.gif 5. http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/contactimage.gif I don't quite know why you want to waste so much screen space around your rigid boxes ... Sorry, I still don't see the images listed below on the page. When I view image information, FF lists the images - but the image doesn't appear on the list. Other images do appear ... Beyond me. Too much absolute and other positioning. I did see a z-index: -1, I guess it's legit, but the need for such gyrations to make an absolute positioning layout work is (to me) a good argument for avoiding them entirely. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE and png transparency
How can I set .png transparency for ie7. I thought is was something like this. code: filter:alpha(opacity=50); But I guess I'm wrong it doesn't seem to work, am I missing something ? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] List-style-type in IE
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 11:16 -0700, Mark Senff wrote:
--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Mike Davies m...@integrawebdesign.co.uk wrote:
I am trying to remove the bullets from an unordered list, which works
fine in Firefox using list-style-type:none;. But this doesn't appear to
be supported by IE and the lists are showing either with the bullet or
with an indent.
See the left-hand side links on
http://www.deveron-arts.com/wb/pages/artists/david-blyth.php
How can I work round this?
In IE7 the first list seems OK, the second list has indented items.
Personally, I usually use these rules to reset all UL/LI tags:
ul,li {
list-style-type: none;
list-style-position: outside;
}
The list-style-position should help there.
(to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure if this is a 100% foolproof/valid/good
method, but I've never had problems with it)
This seems to remove the bullet but the indent remains as though the bullet
still exists.
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01464 861535www.integrawebdesign.co.uk
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Re: [css-d] List-style-type in IE
This seems to remove the bullet but the indent remains as though the bullet still exists. I haven't looked at the page to verify/test, but FF does the indents with padding, while IE does it with a margin. It sounds like you might be running into that. ---Tim __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE and png transparency
-Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d- boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of hairball Sent: 27 March 2009 10:11 To: CSS-D Subject: [css-d] IE and png transparency How can I set .png transparency for ie7. I thought is was something like this. code: filter:alpha(opacity=50); But I guess I'm wrong it doesn't seem to work, am I missing something ? __ I thought IE7 rendered pngs and it was only IE before IE7 that didn't. Ian __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] styling select drop down in IE
--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Angela French afre...@sbctc.edu wrote: Can CSS be applied to the select tag in IE? I can't get mine to remove the 3D effect. I remember something about the styling of selects being an operating system style that can't be overwritten. To my knowledge, this is indeed not possible in IE, and you'll stuck with the default 3D look of the select boxes. It's beyond me why we can't style these with CSS, whereas we ARE allowed to style regular input boxes. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE and png transparency
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, hairball stop.the8th...@gmail.com wrote: How can I set .png transparency for ie7. I thought is was something like this. code: filter:alpha(opacity=50); But I guess I'm wrong it doesn't seem to work, am I missing something ? With PNGs, the transparency is part of the actual IMAGE, you shouldn't need additional CSS. Only for IE6 you need a fix. mS __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] List-style-type in IE
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Mike Davies m...@integrawebdesign.co.uk wrote:
ul,li {
list-style-type: none;
list-style-position: outside;
}
The list-style-position should help there.
This seems to remove the bullet but the indent remains as
though the bullet still exists.
Like Tim said, padding and margin is also relevant here. Set those to your
desired values for both the UL and the LI.
Having said that, it seems you fixed it already, it looks good to me in
FF/IE6/IE7/IE8.
mS
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Re: [css-d] styling select drop down in IE
On Thu, March 26, 2009 10:18 pm, Angela French wrote: Can CSS be applied to the select tag in IE? I can't get mine to remove the 3D effect. I remember something about the styling of selects being an operating system style that can't be overwritten. It depends which version of IE. IE 6 and below implement the select element as a windowed control [1], so it follows the user's settings for their Windows appearance and cannot be styled with CSS. As of IE 7, it becomes a windowless control, and can be styled. [1] http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/17/514076.aspx Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE list problem
I just noticed this today, and I can't figure out what's going on. It looks right in FF and IE8. But in IE7, all the menu text is indented from the graphic. http://www.indiana.edu/~intlserv/ The margins and padding are all explicitly set, I think. My only guess currently is that the text is bumping itself out of the way of the background image, but I can't imagine why that would be. ---Tim Climis Computer Coordinator International Services __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] styling select drop down in IE
This is interesting, but I have IE7 and a border: 1px solid color, still gets me a 3D effect unfortunately., -Original Message- From: Nick Fitzsimons [mailto:n...@nickfitz.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32 AM To: Angela French Cc: 'css discuss' Subject: Re: [css-d] styling select drop down in IE On Thu, March 26, 2009 10:18 pm, Angela French wrote: Can CSS be applied to the select tag in IE? I can't get mine to remove the 3D effect. I remember something about the styling of selects being an operating system style that can't be overwritten. It depends which version of IE. IE 6 and below implement the select element as a windowed control [1], so it follows the user's settings for their Windows appearance and cannot be styled with CSS. As of IE 7, it becomes a windowless control, and can be styled. [1] http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/17/514076.aspx Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] styling select drop down in IE
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Nick Fitzsimons n...@nickfitz.co.uk wrote: On Thu, March 26, 2009 10:18 pm, Angela French wrote: Can CSS be applied to the select tag in IE? I can't get mine to remove the 3D effect. I remember something about the styling of selects being an operating system style that can't be overwritten. It depends which version of IE. IE 6 and below implement the select element as a windowed control [1], so it follows the user's settings for their Windows appearance and cannot be styled with CSS. As of IE 7, it becomes a windowless control, and can be styled. Although it's true that you can the style the text/background colors of a select dropdown, I don't see how you can get rid of the 3D border in IE7. Have a look: http://www.senff.com/select.html The bottom dropdown should have a 1 pixel red border (as you can see in FF and IE8 for example), but IE7 doesn't take that and keeps showing the default 3D style. In fact, I really don't see a difference between IE6 and IE7 (styling of text/colors was already possible in IE6 as well). Am I missing something? mS __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE list problem
Those who know more can probably tell you what's going on and give a more elegant solution, but I solved your very problem a few days ago with a conditional comment for IE only pointing to a separate, IE7 and down, style sheet. It gives a negative left margin to ul's and ol's. I couldn't find another way to make list items line up with the rest of the text although I'd tried all combinations of margin 0 and padding 0. Peter H. I just noticed this today, and I can't figure out what's going on. It looks right in FF and IE8. But in IE7, all the menu text is indented from the graphic. http://www.indiana.edu/~intlserv/ The margins and padding are all explicitly set, I think. My only guess currently is that the text is bumping itself out of the way of the background image, but I can't imagine why that would be. ---Tim Climis Computer Coordinator International Services __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE list problem
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Peter Hammarling pe...@artworkers.net wrote: It gives a negative left margin to ul's and ol's. I couldn't find another way to make list items line up with the rest of the text although I'd tried all combinations of margin 0 and padding 0. I use the 'position: relative, left: -1.5em, padding-left: 1.5em' technique from http://csshowto.com/typography/hanging-punctuation-with-css/ for full IE compatibility. Not sure if it's better than a negative left margin but, given IE's tendency to screw negative margins up, I suspect this is a safer IE-6 solution. - Bobby __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE list problem
Climis, Tim wrote:
I just noticed this today, and I can't figure out what's going on. It
looks right in FF and IE8. But in IE7, all the menu text is indented
from the graphic.
http://www.indiana.edu/~intlserv/
Can't analyze it in depth because scripts don't survive download, but
for IE7, add...
*:first-child+htmlbody div#menu ul.tree {
float: left;
}
...to isolate outer ul containers from their parent - div#menu. That
will fix indentation/line-up in that IE version.
regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] IE list problem
I use the 'position: relative, left: -1.5em, padding-left: 1.5em' technique from http://csshowto.com/typography/hanging-punctuation-with-css/ for full IE compatibility. Not sure if it's better than a negative left margin but, given IE's tendency to screw negative margins up, I suspect this is a safer IE-6 solution. - Bobby That's a much nicer solution and obviates the need for the extra style sheet, though I confess I don't fully understand how it works. I need to get my head round the -1.5em/+1.5em trick. But the example page from the csshowto http://csshowto.com/examples/hangingpunctuation.html shows a weird example and I can't see why one would want to achieve that, except in the case of a ul with no markers. Hanging punctuation is tolerable sometimes, but hanging numbers or bullets seem hideous to me. Peter H. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE list problem
div#menu ul.tree {
float: left;
}
...to isolate outer ul containers from their parent - div#menu. That
will fix indentation/line-up in that IE version.
Thanks Georg! That worked like a dream. But since it took me a little while
to figure out what you were talking about, here's a sum up for anyone who's
interested.
The extra padding was coming from the div#menu. To fix it, I had to float the
list so the padding would happen outside the list _container_ instead of the
list _text_.
---Tim
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[css-d] Image stretches vertically in (that's right) IE6
Hi all, I *think* this is a CSS issue - apologies if it is not. I have a page with two photos on it that seem to be behaving peculiarly *only* in IE6. The page is here: http://www.ruberyowen.com/rubery-owen-history.php The offending photos are styled pictureright and pictureleft. On Safari, Firefox and IE7 these pictures appear to be fine, but in IE6 the photos are stretched vertically. I can't figure what is happening - can anyone either confirm that they also see this effect or suggest what may be wrong? Thanks, Ian. -- ianpi...@mac.com 07590 685840 | 01926 811383 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE and png transparency
On Fri, March 27, 2009 10:10 am, hairball wrote: How can I set .png transparency for ie7. I thought is was something like this. code: filter:alpha(opacity=50); But I guess I'm wrong it doesn't seem to work, am I missing something ? As others have mentioned, IE 7 and 8 support PNG transparency, so you don't need to do anything. If you need to support PNG transparency in IE6, you want the AlphaImageLoader filter [1] [2] [3]. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms532969.aspx [2] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 [3] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/alphatransparency.html Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] tabled thumbnail gallery to css?
Bill, What about treating this as a list object instead of a table? It might be a bit of work/thought to set up initially but would certainly be much easier to maintain especially when you have to reorder items. The code/layout would essentially by fixed and easily replicated for each new entry and you could then VERY easily move items around in list for alphabetical ordering and could easily bump items from one column to the next to address balancing the page layout. Obviously the pseudo code below is short on specific details, but I think it gets the idea across. Best of luck, Daniel - ul id=column 1 fixed width align or float left li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li /ul * ul id=column 2 fixed width align or float right * li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li li div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineLast, firstbr/email/div div with fixed width, displayed as block in-lineimage 1/div div with fixed widthimage 2/div /li /ul *If you are (very) concerned about semantic structure, instead of breaking this into two separate un-ordered lists, you could wrap the first and second half of the lists in divs that break them into columns. -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of bill scheider Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:37 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] tabled thumbnail gallery to css? Hi all I volunteered for a non profit who recently lost their web person to do some updates on their website. The page in question can be found here: http://www.oregonwca.org/gallery.html The gallery is a 7-col table containing an artist's name, a thumbnail, a thumbnail, artist's name, thumbnail, thumbnail. They want to retain that general layout of two artists and their thumbnails per line. I'd like to re-code that page in css rather than a table. For one thing it'd be lots easier to retain the alphabetical order when adding or removing a new artist. The current code is certainly a mess and could certainly benefit from a cleansing:-) Can someone point me in the direction of coding idea or solution for this? I suppose, strictly speaking, the info can be presented as a table of data but there's still the alphabetical order issue when adding or removing artists. All pointers are appreciated. TIA Bill Scheider __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE and png transparency
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Nick Fitzsimons n...@nickfitz.co.uk wrote: If you need to support PNG transparency in IE6, you want the AlphaImageLoader filter [1] [2] [3]. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms532969.aspx [2] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714 [3] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/alphatransparency.html In my opinion, this [1] is the best PNG Fix I found. [1] http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/ - divya http://nimbupani.com/blog __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Image stretches vertically in (that's right) IE6
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Ian Piper ianpi...@mac.com wrote: The offending photos are styled pictureright and pictureleft. On Safari, Firefox and IE7 these pictures appear to be fine, but in IE6 the photos are stretched vertically. I can't figure what is happening - can anyone either confirm that they also see this effect or suggest what may be wrong? I see the effect in IE 6. Probably the best choice would be to apply the float on the parent div of the image rather than on the image itself. Plus would also help to remove position:relative as it seems to be doing nothing in the styling. - divya __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Image stretches vertically in (that's right) IE6
On 27 Mar 2009, at 10:39pm, Holly Bergevin wrote: From: Ian Piper ianpi...@mac.com two photos on it that seem to be behaving peculiarly *only* in IE6. http://www.ruberyowen.com/rubery-owen-history.php the photos are stretched vertically. Below is where the problem is coming from, I believe. Was this hack applied for specific problems, or just on general principle? If it was specific, you'll want to find another way to give these images layout. Thanks all for the answers to this. I should probably briefly explain how I got into this pickle. I am using a low-end CMS called WebYep for this site. It works pretty well most of the time but I found on this site I had a problem. The CMS uses a loop to allow the user to build complex pages by selecting one or more out of a set of optional page components. Unfortunately the components you *don't* choose end up on the page too, as empty divs. I realised that while the empty divs took up no space in most browsers, in IE the ones that normally contained images showed a minimum height (around 10px). It looked as though the only way to get them to zero height was to style their content img elements rather the divs themselves. I'm afraid the list of hacks sort of appeared along the way as I was trying to give the empty divs layout (which I thought was the source of the problem). I will try to clean this up now - thanks for all the helpful suggestions. Ian. -- ianpi...@mac.com 07590 685840 | 01926 811383 __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Image stretches vertically in (that's right) IE6
From: Ian Piper ianpi...@mac.com
two photos on it that seem to be behaving peculiarly *only* in
IE6.
http://www.ruberyowen.com/rubery-owen-history.php
the photos are stretched vertically.
Below is where the problem is coming from, I believe. Was this hack applied for
specific problems, or just on general principle? If it was specific, you'll
want to find another way to give these images layout.
/* Various Holly hacks to address IE bad behaviour */
* html #content,
* html #content-wide,
* html #content .pictureleft,
* html #content-wide .pictureleft,
* html #content .pictureright,
* html #content-wide .pictureright {height: 1%;} /* this is the problem for
those images */
~holly :-)
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