Re: [css-d] The holy grail

2009-11-09 Thread Theresa Mesa
That would definitely be the Holy Grail...

Stoopid IE.

Let each browser express itself differently, as long as each is  
standards compliant and plays well with others. I find, at least so  
far, that with the exception of IE6, if I build standardized code that  
validates, I can get it to display almost exactly the same on every  
browser. Usually.


Theresa


On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote:

 The holy grail is that place we'll all be to (soon, I think)
 when we can finally stop worrying, thinking about and dealing
 with IEsicks.

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[css-d] strange behavior in IE 7

2009-11-09 Thread Ido dekkers
hello

i have this page:
http://test3.dekkers.net/test.htm

in IE 7 when i hover over the table, some or all of the other table cells
(accept for the right ones that should) light up in red.

i know it's the first rule causing the problem since when i remove it it
stops.
the question is why does it happen even though the first rule has nothing to
do with the page here?
this markup is a part of a complete page where i need the rule.

any ideas ?

thanks
Ido
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[css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread russ
I have tried this page in Chrome, Safari, IE6, and Firefox. In the first 
three browsers I get the result I expect, but Firefox is doing its own 
thing.

http://www.mcmullincreative.com/crows/

The wide column is divided into identical sections. Each section has an 
image floated left, and a title and description to the right. The words 
This is the title are supposed to be aligned with the top of each image.

In Firefox, I am seeing an additional 20px of padding on the top, which 
pushes the title, and everything else, down. It is no longer flush with the 
top of the image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Any help would 
be appreciated. Thanks.

Russ


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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread Adam Ducker
r...@catjuggling.com wrote:

 In Firefox, I am seeing an additional 20px of padding on the top, which 
 pushes the title, and everything else, down. It is no longer flush with the 
 top of the image.

I'm having a little success with it when I float the parent A tag as 
well as the IMG tag (.content-item img).  This will require some tweaks 
to the margin and padding of those two tags but this suggestion may get 
you moving in the right direction.

-Adam Ducker (http://adamducker.com)
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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread Climis, Tim
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Subject: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

I have tried this page in Chrome, Safari, IE6, and Firefox. In the first 
three browsers I get the result I expect, but Firefox is doing its own 
thing.

http://www.mcmullincreative.com/crows/

The wide column is divided into identical sections. Each section has an 
image floated left, and a title and description to the right. The words 
This is the title are supposed to be aligned with the top of each image.

In Firefox, I am seeing an additional 20px of padding on the top, which 
pushes the title, and everything else, down. It is no longer flush with the 
top of the image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Any help would 
be appreciated. Thanks.

--

The extra padding is coming from the rule in line 122

.sidebar-item h3, p, a {
  padding: 3px 19px;
}

The link is getting some height that floats over to the text, and is going 
above the heading.  If you remove the padding from the style, it stops.  I 
don't know why.  I'll leave that to more experienced people on the list.

It's all well illustrated in Firebug.

---Tim

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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread jeffrey morin
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM, r...@catjuggling.com wrote:

 I have tried this page in Chrome, Safari, IE6, and Firefox. In the first
 three browsers I get the result I expect, but Firefox is doing its own
 thing.

 http://www.mcmullincreative.com/crows/

 The wide column is divided into identical sections. Each section has an
 image floated left, and a title and description to the right. The words
 This is the title are supposed to be aligned with the top of each image.

 In Firefox, I am seeing an additional 20px of padding on the top, which
 pushes the title, and everything else, down. It is no longer flush with the
 top of the image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Any help would
 be appreciated. Thanks.

 Russ


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the image inside of your href tag is floated but the link isn't. you have to
float the link so it will contain the image. check in firebug and when you
mouse over the a tag in the html section of firebug it'll highlight it for
you and you'll see the problem.

cheers,
jeff
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Re: [css-d] The holy grail

2009-11-09 Thread Jay Tanna

Apparently, Micro$oft IS complying with standards but it is their standards 
they are complying with NOT international standards.

When they brought out IE8, they said they are doing us all a favor by trying 
to comply with international standards.  I guess they are still trying but NOT 
hard enough!



--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [css-d] The holy grail
 To: Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com
 Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:38 AM
 That would definitely be the Holy
 Grail...
 
 Stoopid IE.
 
 Let each browser express itself differently, as long as
 each is  
 standards compliant and plays well with others. I find, at
 least so  
 far, that with the exception of IE6, if I build
 standardized code that  
 validates, I can get it to display almost exactly the same
 on every  
 browser. Usually.
 
 
 Theresa
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
 wrote:
 
  The holy grail is that place we'll all be to (soon, I
 think)
  when we can finally stop worrying, thinking about and
 dealing
  with IEsicks.
 
  -- 
  /*  Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh  --oO0
 */
 
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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread Jay Tanna

In IE7 and FF 3.5.3 I see the pages identical.  The right side image is 
slightly above compared to left side images. On the left side there is a 
heading Category Title which is pushing the contents down.  Is it what you 
are asking about.




--- On Mon, 11/9/09, r...@catjuggling.com r...@catjuggling.com wrote:

 From: r...@catjuggling.com r...@catjuggling.com
 Subject: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?
 To: CSS-D css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:29 PM
 I have tried this page in Chrome,
 Safari, IE6, and Firefox. In the first 
 three browsers I get the result I expect, but Firefox is
 doing its own 
 thing.
 
 http://www.mcmullincreative.com/crows/
 
 The wide column is divided into identical sections. Each
 section has an 
 image floated left, and a title and description to the
 right. The words 
 This is the title are supposed to be aligned with the top
 of each image.
 
 In Firefox, I am seeing an additional 20px of padding on
 the top, which 
 pushes the title, and everything else, down. It is no
 longer flush with the 
 top of the image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix it.
 Any help would 
 be appreciated. Thanks.
 
 Russ
 
 
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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread russ
I was making changes to the page, so you probably saw my update, rather than 
the original problem. I changed it back to what it was. I found a 
workaround, but I still don't know why only Firefox is adding 20 extra 
pixels of padding. Here is an image that should help illustrate my point:

http://www.mcmullincreative.com/crows/crows.gif

It is a combination of 4 screen shots to show how Firefox renders the page 
in a different way than the three other browsers.


 In IE7 and FF 3.5.3 I see the pages identical.  The right side image is 
 slightly above compared to left side images. On the left side there is a 
 heading Category Title which is pushing the contents down.  Is it what 
 you are asking about.

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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread Mark Richards
 The wide column is divided into identical sections. Each 
 section has an 
 image floated left, and a title and description to the right. 
 The words 
 This is the title are supposed to be aligned with the top 
 of each image.
 

Mockup.css has
.content-item h3 {
  padding: 20px 0px 3px 0px;
}

I used firebug to find that rule and disable it and the heading moves up
to the top.

Mark
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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread russ
Thanks for taking the time to sort this out, Adam. I knew it had to be 
something I was doing. Working around the problem wasn't going to satisfy 
me. I wanted to know the root cause and you helped me see it. Thanks!

Russ


 First of all you have an issue with your CSS that may or may not be a 
 misunderstanding on your part.

 .sidebar-item h3, p, a {
   padding: 3px 19px 3px 19px;
 }

 Did you mean to apply that style to just the H3 tags inside .sidebar-item, 
 and to all P and A tags on the page? 

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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Climis, Tim wrote:

 The extra padding is coming from the rule in line 122

 .sidebar-item h3, p, a {
  padding: 3px 19px;
 }

 The link is getting some height that floats over to the text, and is  
 going above the heading.  If you remove the padding from the style,  
 it stops.  I don't know why.  I'll leave that to more experienced  
 people on the list.

The a is an inline element that gets 3px top- and bottom-padding and  
generates a line box. It thus does takes up space. But the actual  
content of the link a, an image, is floated and moved to the left in  
the containing block.

What Firefox does seems completely correct to me.
Float the a, move the styling from the img to the a and you  
should be good to go.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] why does Firefox add padding?

2009-11-09 Thread russ
Thanks for the reply, Mark. I can't disable the rule because then it 
wouldn't look right in Chrome, Safari, and IE6. It was pointed out to me 
that one of the rules in my sidebar is adding the extra padding. I hadn't 
thought to look there.

 I used firebug to find that rule and disable it and the heading moves up
 to the top.

 Mark 

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[css-d] CSS Style to a Form and Events Calendar Alignment

2009-11-09 Thread MarvinC
Possible OT:
Question #1: I've got a Wordpress site running the Enhanced WP-Contact Form
and wonder if anyone know how I'd style it so that the text boxes are all
aligned? Out of the box after adding the email address the fields seem
unstructured, no pun at the plugin, but I'm not strong at adding to the
style sheet. So I'm hoping someone would let me know what changes I'd make?


Question #2: In this particular theme I notice that the event calendar
widget aligns to the bottom left instead of the center like the other
plugins. I've checked the style sheets of the pplugin and the theme to no
luck so I'm wondering if this could be an issue with the plugin?

Any responses appreciated.
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