Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]
one thing I've found that helps on organizing the font sizes was in an A List Apart article last year (?). The idea was to have 3 style sheets: one for fonts, one for colors, and one for layout related stuff (positioning, borders, margins, etc). There's a bit of extra page weight involved, since you end up declaring the same selectors a few times, but I've found that it does make keeping track of your styles easier. Fewer things get lost. ---Tim It sure is an idea for organizing things. And I surely need to find a way to organize what will became 1000 lines of css code. Thanks for the usefull tip, I will surely take a look into that. Found the link: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/progressiveenhancementwithcss Thanks once again, Márcio __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Extra width in ie6 than FF
I'm assuming this is a box model issue, but with a complex structure, I'm not sure where I should try a hack. My page at http://www.bedaleswines.com/blog/default.asp?Category=2 (sorry it's a CMS generated page) shows an extra bit of space on the right had side in IE vs. FF. Where should I start hacking? Regards Pete __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Extra width in ie6 than FF
Pete Harrison wrote:
I'm assuming this is a box model issue, but with a complex structure, I'm
not sure where I should try a hack.
My page at http://www.bedaleswines.com/blog/default.asp?Category=2 (sorry
it's a CMS generated page) shows an extra bit of space on the right had side
in IE vs. FF.
Where should I start hacking?
Regards
Pete
* html #container {
overflow-x: hidden;
} /* 4 ie/6.0 */
Best,
~d
PS Increasing the contrast inorder to make it readable would be a nice
touch.
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[css-d] :: makeready ::
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
it seems to lean to the right (more white space on left than right) On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.comwrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Hi David, This is my favorite style of site clean easy to use and quick to load. My only comment is that it has more white space on the left than the right and personaly I find that throws its balance out for me. The 3 sets are very cool but possably a discription for people that are not computer savy enough to know what to do there. Great job Ryan __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Hi David, I particularly like the visual impact of the site. It is both engaging and minimalist at the same time. The upper part of each page is consistent. I have mixed feelings about large images (the lights) pushing content lower on the page. The images of the lights are attractive, but become tiring. The About page includes (or will include) some examples of your work; I suggest they move to the Portfolio, and leave About straight-forward. The Portfolio section loses the consistency of the upper part of the page. I had to check to see where I was, and pause for a minute and wonder what changed. I think I know what you want to accomplish with the smaller and larger images of sites you've designed, but I find it odd to view only part of a page. I suggest presenting the entire image. The Resources part of the site, which I think is wonderful, also seems (to me) to visually fall apart. There is a mix of pages that are completely different (I realize this is a WIP) and links that just take me away from your site (sometimes inevitable). Most suggestions I would offer are arguably their own set of problems (open in separate window or tab, open in a frame, etc.). Contact page likewise changes layout and is distracting. Kudos for making address and phone accessible from every page. Not sure you need to repeat the bouquet image from above. The expanding/contracting feature (on the Journal page, fro example) is counter intuitive for me. Personally I am comfortable with longer pages; they do not detract from attractiveness. On the technical side, the Home and About links both point to /index.php. I did not mean to dwell on the negative, David. There is a comfort to the design and the colors. The more time I spent on the site, the more I was attracted to its positive features. Warm regards, Bill B David Laakso wrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Theresa Newman wrote: it seems to lean to the right (more white space on left than right) I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d It is very like most everything else, including chimneys. They lean due to the tilt of Earth's axis and prevailing wind :-) . ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
When the Portfolio page is selected, and all the examples push out to the left, the content is nearly perfectly centered. Bill B Theresa Newman wrote: it seems to lean to the right (more white space on left than right) On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.comwrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Hi David
White is better. And the second About (vertical) why ?
body {
-x-system-font:none;
font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
font-size:100%;
font-size-adjust:none;
font-stretch:normal;
font-style:normal;
font-variant:normal;
font-weight:normal;
line-height:1.425;
position:relative;
}
sisu.css (ligne 31)
#t1 {
float:right;
padding-top:65px;
width:71%;
}
Cordially
Luis
David Laakso a écrit :
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Best,
~d
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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
David Laakso wrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Question: do you mean STRONG or *BOLD* when you code... pstrongBelow are/strong thumbnail images.. ...? (You know what I mean ;-) ) Also, IMO the horizontal line should be above that particular sentence, to make it perfectly clear what it points at. The rest pretty much gets an all clear from Molly 't.c.', and me. :-) regards Georg __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Centering a Script
I'm trying to embed the Twitter profile widget in my webpage. It's a
script/script item and I just want it centered on the page using
css. It seems to be immune to all css styling. Text in the same div
centers when I put text-align:center in the css file, but this stays
smack against the left side of the div. I tried putting the script in a
set of p/p tags. That didn't work, either.
I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I have never had a script in a
web page before, so perhaps I am not understanding the nature of
script tags. I wen to wc3 and read some of the documents about
centering and scripts and didn't find anything illuminating.
If it helps, this is the script:
script src=http://widgets.twimg.com/j/2/widget.js;/script
script
new TWTR.Widget({
version: 2,
type: 'profile',
rpp: 3,
interval: 6000,
width: 450,
height: 150,
theme: {
shell: {
background: '#006600',
color: '#ff'
},
tweets: {
background: '#33',
color: '#ff',
links: '#99cc66'
}
},
features: {
scrollbar: true,
loop: false,
live: false,
hashtags: true,
timestamp: true,
avatars: false,
behavior: 'all'
}
}).render().setUser('WindhamRegCERT').start();
/script
Thanks for considering my issue.
Dagmar
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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Luis Speciale wrote: Hi David White is better. And the second About (vertical) why ? trimmed Cordially Luis Luis, I probably should know, but when it comes right down to it, your reply is so cryptic that I have no idea what you are getting at. Sorry. Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Centering a Script
Someone else may have a more clever idea, but I would just enclose the
script in a div and center that.
div style='width:450px; height:150px; margin:0 auto;'(put script
here)/div
Some will recommend keeping your css elsewhere, so you could also add
this to your css:
. twitter {width:450px; height:150px; margin:0 auto;}
And then add this to your html:
div class=twitter(put script here)/div
Hope that helps,
-Delos
On Dec 22, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Dagmar Noll wrote:
I'm trying to embed the Twitter profile widget in my webpage. It's a
script/script item and I just want it centered on the page using
css. It seems to be immune to all css styling. Text in the same div
centers when I put text-align:center in the css file, but this stays
smack against the left side of the div. I tried putting the script
in a
set of p/p tags. That didn't work, either.
I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I have never had a script
in a
web page before, so perhaps I am not understanding the nature of
script tags. I wen to wc3 and read some of the documents about
centering and scripts and didn't find anything illuminating.
If it helps, this is the script:
script src=http://widgets.twimg.com/j/2/widget.js;/script
script
new TWTR.Widget({
version: 2,
type: 'profile',
rpp: 3,
interval: 6000,
width: 450,
height: 150,
theme: {
shell: {
background: '#006600',
color: '#ff'
},
tweets: {
background: '#33',
color: '#ff',
links: '#99cc66'
}
},
features: {
scrollbar: true,
loop: false,
live: false,
hashtags: true,
timestamp: true,
avatars: false,
behavior: 'all'
}
}).render().setUser('WindhamRegCERT').start();
/script
Thanks for considering my issue.
Dagmar
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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Everything has such a delicate, feminine look to it, except for the image outlines. Big chunky charcoal gray image outlines. Big chunkyHRs (or border-top, or border-bottom). In juxtaposition to Zapfino, with very thin thins, and thicks that aren't nearly as thick as the outlines. Theresa On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David Laakso wrote: Luis Speciale wrote: Hi David White is better. And the second About (vertical) why ? trimmed Cordially Luis Luis, I probably should know, but when it comes right down to it, your reply is so cryptic that I have no idea what you are getting at. Sorry. Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
david, technically and from an infrastructure design perspective, it's masterfully done (not that i could really tell). but your copy really sucks and really doesn't betray the level of work that you do. how long have you been at this? did you put nearly as much time into the content development as you did in building the site? you say no smoke and mirrors... but all those collapsing divs--really cool--but IMHO, doesn't enhance the experience. being lazy, i usually want to scan things.. and having to choose whether to expand all or 1 or 2 or 3??? i'm a product of the 60's--few brain cells left. i think it would be stronger to show all at the outset. the portfolio is also a little much with the interactivity. clicking on the name deletes all information except the 2 links... why??? then the possibility of seeing the full page... at this point, why not link to the site? while i'm venting, i'm not wild about the heavy black border on the page images.. to me, it detracts from the subject of the page... which is the focus visually, the out dented, flush right menu, creates a weird visual box to the left of the image. i mention it because i notice it. the resource section and the journal are real contributions to all of us. lastly, and this one is really subjective. the strongest portfolio pieces (IMO) are dolphins back and lars. redon, dwight and soldiers home seem more like studies, and as nicely done as they are detract some from the 'business' of developing sites. again. i admire your courage of putting this in front of so many people and asking for opinions. you'll certainly get them. i don't quite know how to be constructive, you know i have a lot of respect for you as a developer and designer. i'm my toughest client, especially when i comes to my own work. wrm rgds, ron http://www.ricochet.org * the ox is slow but the earth is patient On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:01 PM, David Laakso wrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
On 23/12/2009, at 8:08 AM, David Laakso wrote: David Laakso wrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ David, I loved it before and I still love it now. There are a few things that I would like to see changed though. 1. Your awesome logo does not need a drop shadow box around it. 2. As someone else noticed there is a white box in the upper-left hand corner. Possibly this is so your logo can sit against a white background but what you could do is have the repeating gradient at the top of the page, and use a white - transparent radial fill around the logo (will need png fix). Another option is to lose the small bt of body gradient from the left and align gradient to start above the page content and not the menu. 3. 'Below are thumbnail images of some websites' - they're not really, they're logos of clients and it is in fact a client list. You can lose most of that paragraph just by saying, 'here is a list of some clients that I've worked with'. There's no need for this to be expandable/ collapsible. I think every user will want to see so why make them work for it? 4. If you choose against previous then try to think about naming your sets. Why are they grouped? I.E. rename sets to something like: Set 1 = Creative industries, Set 2 = Communications, Set 3 = Personal 5. The main image is needed and placed in just the right spot but I do think it should change from page-to-page. Your choice of imagery is part of your brand and I REALLY like it. It gives the user breathing space and room for them to interpret however they want. Lens flare is coming back! I am serious, as tacky as I used to think it was (being one of the first effects anyone plays with when they get PS) you have used it well and trust me it is something that will be appearing on innovative and modern designed website (e.g. mac) in the not so far feature. Well done for getting there first! 6. I would title each one, not the page title, and not over the imagery - but neatly below as if hung in a gallery. If it's your artwork, say so - it shows that you are creative and not solely all about the code. It doesn't seem that you want the type of clients that will use stock imagery so don't let them think that's what you're about. 7. I would make 'Chelsea Creek Studios' a unique font (a word-mark). It's a lovely name and by simply making the first letters of words a capital is too subtle. 8. I'd knock the size of those lines down a few pixies too. I know plenty of people that this would appeal to, it gives a strong sense of who you are and that message to me comes across as sincere, trust-worthy, passionate and smart which are awesome traits that the money-grabbing world just doesn't get. Well done you! Please lose that drop shadow around your logo. It sticks out like a sore thumb and trust me it's doesn't need it. It's wicked and in fact I wouldn't mind it if you could do something like that for me. Send me a message if you're interested. Cheers, Chris P.S. Get in touch about that logo __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
David Laakso wrote:
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Looking good.
On a side note. For IE6, I thought that maybe the below CSS would stop
with some confusion for IE6 users on the portfolio page.
* html h3.ex {display: none;}
or
* html h3.ex {position: absolute; left: -15,000px;}
When selecting the link [next] I ended up on a blank page. Like the last
time around it sometimes happens and then sometimes doesn't. Testing
further, the same things happens when selecting from the links in the
sidebar (within div#sb nav). I don't know if this is CSS, PHP or server
related.
I guess this is why I see all this IE6 %^$%* going around among web
designer and developers. One bug and all that work to nurse IE6 along
seems wasted.
--
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Theresa Mesa wrote: Everything has such a delicate, feminine look to it, except for the image outlines. Big chunky charcoal gray image outlines. Big chunkyHRs (or border-top, or border-bottom). In juxtaposition to Zapfino, with very thin thins, and thicks that aren't nearly as thick as the outlines. Theresa And why wouldn't this be? I can understand this since I also have an artistic past. It's that combined left and right brain hemisphere development thing. David's style remind my of Russell Drysdale's work. http://images.google.com/images?hl=ensource=hpq=russell+drysdale -- Alan http://css-class.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
Alan Gresley wrote:
David Laakso wrote:
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Looking good.
On a side note. For IE6, I thought that maybe the below CSS would stop
with some confusion for IE6 users on the portfolio page.
* html h3.ex {display: none;}
I regret there is no fix for this issue.
Nevertheless, good call. Your code [1] will make it somewhat less
obvious sometimes and is on the host/server now, as:
[1]
* html h3.ex {display: none;}
/* Thanks to Alan Gresley: http://css-class.com/links/ */
Best,
~d
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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.comwrote: I dunno...the site is causing some cognitive dissonance for me. I'm also a fine artist, a commissioned portraitist, and textile artist, in addition to being a graphic designer and web designer. Looking at Russell Drysdale's work, there's an organic flow and logic to the thick and thin, a push-pull to the lights and darks, to the tints and the saturated color. Here, there is a dichotomy between the organic flow of the stroke in Zapfino, and the boxy, thick outlines of the images and rules. I don't see a correlation. The logo could go either way, but I don't think it functions as a bridge between the style of the font and the thick outlines of the images to form a cohesive whole. Is the site for a man or a woman? There is a decidedly feminine cast to the site. Zapfino is a very feminine font. shrug Not all script fonts are feminine, but this one is. Maybe that's not a problem. But then we are out of the purview of CSS, so I expect our knuckles shall be rapped with the ruler shortly. Theresa Mesa Ooh, I love it when you artists talk dirty like that! Yes, I imagine we shall all be getting our knuckles rapped shortly. But in the meantime, isn't it nice to have some help getting our sheets styled? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
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[css-d] Apologies!
I suppose I've now earned a place in the CSS Hall of Shame for getting a thread closed because of my off topic, not to mention off color, comment. I sincerely apologize to anyone who took offense or had their time wasted. (And yes, I'm well aware that this apology may waste more of your time! That's the bind I put myself in.) I assure you that my next post will be much more on topic! :-) -Mike __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
