[css-d] How to Overcome Problems Associated with the IE8 Devolution

2010-02-21 Thread Chris Case
I am sending this out to web professionals so they may be able to avoid
wasting several hours, if not days, on certain IE issues related to their
upgraded versions of IE.

I am using a library called WZ_Tooltip (
http://www.walterzorn.com/tooltip/tooltip_e.htm) to handle the need for some
custom tooltips on an application I write.  This application allows you to
customize your tooltips, using embedded HTML, etc.  Just recently, one of my
co-workers was testing out our application with Winblows 7 and IE8, when she
realized that these tooltips are not appearing.  I have a previous version
of IE8 that I test with XP (8.0.6001.18702) and it works fine.  I cannot
recall for sure what her version is; but I recall that it is later.

Anyhow, this was all very troubling, because many of our clients are likely
to be installing 7 on their future machines.  Well, there is a workaround
that makes it so you don't have to worry about all of the things that
micro$oft breaks (until they break this, i suppose).  Just put the following
META tag in your head/head

meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=EmulateIE7 /

It works great!  I'm glad some engineers at Micro$oft had a bit of foresight
into how their products tend to DEvolve as time progresses.

~chris
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[css-d] site wider in mozilla browser?

2010-02-21 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

I just seemed to notice that my site http://www.designhosting.biz/index.html 
looks wider in mozilla than safari or opera.

I cannot test IE so don't about that one.

Ideas why this is happening?

Thanks!

Best Regards,
Melinda Odom






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Re: [css-d] site wider in mozilla browser?

2010-02-21 Thread David Laakso
Melinda Odom wrote:
 Hi,

 I just seemed to notice that my site http://www.designhosting.biz/index.html 
 looks wider in mozilla than safari or opera.

 I cannot test IE so don't about that one.

 Ideas why this is happening?

 Thanks!

 Best Regards,
 Melinda Odom



   



Dunno? Appears to be the same width in Opera, Safari, SeaMonkey, Chrome, 
IE 6/7/8, PC FF/2.0.0.20, and Mac FF/3.5.8

Best,
~d



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Re: [css-d] site wider in mozilla browser?

2010-02-21 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
 Melinda Odom wrote:
 Hi,

 I just seemed to notice that my site 
 http://www.designhosting.biz/index.html looks wider in mozilla than 
 safari or opera.

 I cannot test IE so don't about that one.

 Ideas why this is happening?

 Thanks!

 Best Regards,
 Melinda Odom



   



 Dunno? Appears to be the same width in Opera, Safari, SeaMonkey, 
 Chrome, IE 6/7/8, PC FF/2.0.0.20, and Mac FF/3.5.8

 Best,
 ~d




On the other hand, if the question is why the block of teeny tiny type 
is serif rather than sans in FF I am not sure about that, either-- 
unless it is a Byte order mark [1] on the CSS file that is causing the 
problem. View the CSS file in the Web Developer Tool Bar.





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Re: [css-d] How to Overcome Problems Associated with the IE8 Devolution

2010-02-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21 February 2010 19:09, Chris Case kaho...@gmail.com wrote:
 It works great!  I'm glad some engineers at Micro$oft had a bit of foresight
 into how their products tend to DEvolve as time progresses.

Short of spending some time building a test suite for it, my best
guess is that the library depends on a bug in Internet Explorer which
is fixed in version 8. The rules for triggering Standards or IE7
Emulation mode are quite complex (and include such things as the IP
address being on a LAN rather then that Internet!), so it is possible
that you were testing in Emulation mode to being with.

The emulation mode is a pragmatic, but horribly unintuitive, approach
to let authors keep their code working in IE until they make it better
conform to web standards — labeling this devolution is unfair.

-- 
David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk
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