Re: [css-d] Fwd: Re: Making sure my container turned out

2010-06-13 Thread Peter Bradley
Ar 13/06/10 02:46, ysgrifennodd Thierry Koblentz :
 I believe the offset of relatively positioned elements is done in regard to
 their position in the normal flow, *not* in relation to a ancestor. They are
 *very* different from absolutely positioned elements. They can overlap
 surrounding boxes but do not disturb the flow,


Yes.  My bad.  You're right and I didn't clarify that properly.  Thanks.



 Normally, you would not expect to see both left and right specified:
 rather you would expect to see, say, left and top.
  
 It is possible to size absolutely positioned boxes via these values. For
 example left:10px;right:10px; will make the box stretch 10px from the left
 edge to 10px from the right edge of the parent that creates a positioning
 context.


Ah!  I wondered if that was the case, but had never seen it done so 
didn't mention it.  Thanks again.

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[css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi all!
I'm pretty inspired this time:

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/pure-css-fisheye-menu-with-icons.html

I didn't test it in IE before publishing it, though. Well, IE has its  
height: 100%, but I'm not sure that
a#id:hover will work... thanks for your attention! bye :-)

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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread David Laakso
Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 Hi all!
 I'm pretty inspired this time:

 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/pure-css-fisheye-menu-with-icons.html

 I didn't test it in IE before publishing it, though. Well, IE has its  
 height: 100%, but I'm not sure that
 a#id:hover will work... thanks for your attention! bye :-)

 Gabriele

   






Neat!
IE/6.0 standalone on Mac 10.4 gets it.
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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread tedd
At 12:00 PM +0200 6/13/10, Gabriele Romanato wrote:
Hi all!
I'm pretty inspired this time:

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/pure-css-fisheye-menu-with-icons.html

I didn't test it in IE before publishing it, though. Well, IE has its 
height: 100%, but I'm not sure that
a#id:hover will work... thanks for your attention! bye :-)

Gabriele


Gabriele:

Why not use image replacement? Granted they would be larger images, 
but that way you load and deal with only one image per menu item.

Here's an example:

http://webbytedd.com/bb/replace-image2/

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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread David Laakso
Claude Needham wrote:

 It is most helpful having a live demo of the effect.
 That is something I missed with the first post in this thread. It is
 so convenient having a live page.

 Claude
   


Claude, there is a link Gabriele's live demo page.
I think you just didn't see it...
http://dev.css-zibaldone.com/demos/pure-css-fisheye-menu-icons/demo.html
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[css-d] css won't show in chrome, IEX

2010-06-13 Thread Thijs Hakkenberg
I made a site with a js which substitues css for different resolutions.
But, IEX and Chrome won't show any css at all:
http://kunstomhetlijf.nl/fileadmin/template/2010/index.html
whilst firefox does show the css.
Anyone know why?
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[css-d] Table cell padding

2010-06-13 Thread BHomis
I'm waving the white flag here.  I'm trying to create an html table  using 
css attributes, and regardless of what I'm trying, I can't get rid of the  
cellpadding.  Shouldn't this work?
table{
padding:0px;
}
 
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Re: [css-d] Table cell padding

2010-06-13 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
bho...@aol.com wrote:

 I'm waving the white flag here.  I'm trying to create an html table
 using css attributes, and regardless of what I'm trying, I can't get
 rid of the cellpadding.

Did you try setting the padding of cells to zero?

 Shouldn't this work?
 table{
 padding:0px;
 }

No, it should not affect cellpadding in any way. It sets the padding of the 
table element to zero, and it's normally zero anyway.

To set the padding of cells to zero, use

th, td { padding: 0; }

If you have a caption element in the table, you might want to add

caption { padding: 0; }

It's generally not a good idea to set cell padding to zero, though, at least 
if you have a genuine data table. More often, you would want to set 
_vertical_ padding to zero but horizontal padding so that cell contents does 
not hit the cell edge. Example:

th, td { padding: 0 0.2em; }

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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread Claude Needham
 Claude, there is a link Gabriele's live demo page.
 I think you just didn't see it...
 http://dev.css-zibaldone.com/demos/pure-css-fisheye-menu-icons/demo.html
 Best,
 ~d

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Right you are. Sitting there in plain sight for all to see. Thanks for
pointing the way to it. It is a nice effect. Reminds me of the first
time I saw a Mac user interface.

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Re: [css-d] css won't show in chrome, IEX

2010-06-13 Thread David Laakso
Thijs Hakkenberg wrote:
 I made a site with a js which substitues css for different resolutions.
 But, IEX and Chrome won't show any css at all:
 http://kunstomhetlijf.nl/fileadmin/template/2010/index.html
 whilst firefox does show the css.
 Anyone know why?
   


Thijs,

I will be the first admit that I don't exactly why it is not loading; 
however, if I comment -out the Dynamic Drive javascript call in the 
head of the document, the CSS loads in Chrome, IE/8, IE/7, and IE/6. My 
guess is its a js error???
Incidentally, you may want to validate the CSS.

Best,
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Re: [css-d] css won't show in chrome, IEX

2010-06-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I made a site with a js which substitues css for different resolutions.
 But, IEX and Chrome won't show any css at all:
 http://kunstomhetlijf.nl/fileadmin/template/2010/index.html
 whilst firefox does show the css.
 Anyone know why?

David is right, it's the script.

Try these two lines:

if(a.title == description){a.disabled = false;}
else if(a.title != default){a.disabled = true;}

instead of these:

if(a.getAttribute(title) == description){a.disabled = false;}
else if(a.getAttribute(title) != default){a.disabled = true;}

In short, get rid of getAttribute()

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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS fisheye menu with icons: a demo

2010-06-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Gabriele,

 I'm pretty inspired this time:
 
 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/pure-css-fisheye-menu-with-
 icons.html
 
 I didn't test it in IE before publishing it, though. Well, IE has its
 height: 100%, but I'm not sure that
 a#id:hover will work... thanks for your attention! bye :-)

I'm not sure height:100% does anything, nor the 100% width on #navigation,
nor display:block on the floats.
Also, since you are already using padding on the anchors, why not using
padding-top to make room for the larger image instead of line-height? The
former would set a fixed value, but the latter may vary depending on font
values. 

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[css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread John Dick

I have the following style in my CSS: 

body { 
margin: 0; 
padding: 0; 
border: 0; 
} 
#ad { 
width: 275px; 
height: 275px; 
margin-top: 0; 
margin-bottom: auto; 
border: 5px black double; 
background-color: red; 
text-align: center; 
vertical-align: middle; 
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 
font-size: 275%; 
font-weight: bolder; 
color: blue;
} 

The basic html is: 

div id=ad 
Our business is tax. 
/div 

Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't vertically 
aligned. However, if I put the text within tags (like: pOur business is 
tax./p the text appears to be vertically aligned.   Changing the font size to 
100% again does not align.  What is the trick here to get the text horizontally 
as well as vertically to be aligned?

Thank you in advance for any advise on this. 

 
  
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Re: [css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, John Dick wrote:

 
 I have the following style in my CSS: 
 
 body { 
 margin: 0; 
 padding: 0; 
 border: 0; 
 } 
 #ad { 
 width: 275px; 
 height: 275px; 
 margin-top: 0; 
 margin-bottom: auto; 
 border: 5px black double; 
 background-color: red; 
 text-align: center; 
 vertical-align: middle; 
 font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 
 font-size: 275%; 
 font-weight: bolder; 
 color: blue;
 } 
 
 The basic html is: 
 
 div id=ad 
 Our business is tax. 
 /div 
 
 Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't
 vertically aligned. However, if I put the text within tags (like:
 pOur business is tax./p the text appears to be vertically
 aligned. Changing the font size to 100% again does not align. What
 is the trick here to get the text horizontally as well as vertically
 to be aligned?

The vertical-align property only applies to inline-level and
table-cell elements; DIV is a block-level element.

If it appears centred at some sizes, that's coincident of the
size, not of vertical alignment. Try increasing the height of the
DIV to see how that affects it.

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Re: [css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I have the following style in my CSS:
 
 body {
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0;
 border: 0;
 }
 #ad {
 width: 275px;
 height: 275px;
 margin-top: 0;
 margin-bottom: auto;
 border: 5px black double;
 background-color: red;
 text-align: center;
 vertical-align: middle;
 font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 275%;
 font-weight: bolder;
 color: blue;
 }
 
 The basic html is:
 
 div id=ad
 Our business is tax.
 /div
 
 Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't
 vertically aligned. However, if I put the text within tags (like:
 pOur business is tax./p the text appears to be vertically aligned.
 Changing the font size to 100% again does not align.  What is the trick
 here to get the text horizontally as well as vertically to be aligned?

You could add the following to your #ad rule:

display:table-cell;
vertical-align:middle;

but it won't work in IE6/7

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Re: [css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread David Laakso
John Dick wrote:
 I have the following style in my CSS: 

 body { 
 margin: 0; 
 padding: 0; 
 border: 0; 
 } 
 #ad { 
 width: 275px; 
 height: 275px; 
 margin-top: 0; 
 margin-bottom: auto; 
 border: 5px black double; 
 background-color: red; 
 text-align: center; 
 vertical-align: middle; 
 font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 
 font-size: 275%; 
 font-weight: bolder; 
 color: blue;
 } 

 The basic html is: 

 div id=ad 
 Our business is tax. 
 /div 

 Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't vertically 
 aligned. However, if I put the text within tags (like: pOur business is 
 tax./p the text appears to be vertically aligned.   Changing the font size 
 to 100% again does not align.  What is the trick here to get the text 
 horizontally as well as vertically to be aligned?

 Thank you in advance for any advise on this. 

  






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Cursory checked in FF, Safari, Opera, IE/8. Not corrected for IE/6 or IE/7.

Based on code by Georg Sortun 
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_20.html

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Re: [css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi David,

  The basic html is:
 
  div id=ad
  Our business is tax.
  /div
 
  Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't
 vertically aligned. However, if I put the text within tags (like:
 pOur business is tax./p the text appears to be vertically aligned.
 Changing the font size to 100% again does not align.  What is the 
 trick here to get the text horizontally as well as vertically to be
aligned?
 
 
 It ain't easy.  Please see:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/va.html
 Cursory checked in FF, Safari, Opera, IE/8. Not corrected for IE/6 or 
 IE/7.

As a side note, if there was no line wrap like in your example, there would
be no need to use table-cell. Because a line-height equal to the height of
the container would center a single line of text vertically in all browsers,
including IE6/7.


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Re: [css-d] Basic formatting question

2010-06-13 Thread David Hucklesby
On 6/13/10 5:17 PM, David Laakso wrote:
 John Dick wrote:
 I have the following style in my CSS:

[code snipped and amended below]

 Now if I view this in browsers (IE8, FF 3.6.3), the text isn't vertically 
 aligned. ...

 Thank you in advance for any advise on this.


Here is another possibility. But you will likely need to make the width 
of the #ad ems rather than pixels to accommodate larger than normal 
text sizes, or the text will wrap and not be centered. (But it degrades 
quite well, IMHO.)

#ad {
  width: 275px; /* change to em sized width */
  height: 275px; /* change to 138px (half) */
  margin-top: 0; /* change to padding-top 137px */
  margin-bottom: auto; /* ? */
  border: 5px black double;
  background-color: red;
  text-align: center;
/*  vertical-align: middle; delete */
  font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  font-size: 275%;
   line-height: 1; /* add */
  font-weight: bolder;
  color: blue;
  }

#ad div {
  margin-top: -.5em;
}

HTML

div id=ad
 divOur business is tax./div
/div

Cordially,
David
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