[css-d] Normalizing CSS inline breadcrumbs menus

2010-08-25 Thread Gabriele Romanato

Hi all!
A simple solution:

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/08/jquery-normalizing-css-inline.html

HTH ^^

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Re: [css-d] site design/layout feedback desired

2010-08-25 Thread Lesley Lutomski

On 25/08/10 04:21, Francesco wrote:

Looking for feedback on a design I'm almost done with.

http://blackcoil.com/classychild

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I've tried this in Firefox 3.6.8 for Ubuntu Linux, with default text 
size set at 16, and in Epiphany 2.30.2 (Linux Webkit-based browser) with 
default text size set at 12.


These settings usually mean sites display pretty much the same across 
the two browsers, but for some reason in this site, the text shows 
slightly larger in Epiphany, causing the baby 0-12 months text in the 
left-hand column to wrap onto two lines.  It's not a problem - just an 
observation.  Other than that, the site looks good.


If the text size is increased to 24 or more, then the header-navigation 
links wrap, but the header doesn't increase in size to accommodate this. 
 Setting #header min-height:100px, rather than height:100px should 
help; setting the height in ems would be even better.


I don't have a problem reading the header-links text, but I use a tool 
from Vision Australia to check colour contrast for visibility, and these 
two combinations do fail that test.  I find this tool really useful - 
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=628 - it's designed for 
Windows, but also runs on Linux using Wine.


The black text Girls over the photo is very hard to read, but maybe 
not too much of a problem in context.


Overall, I like the layout.  It's clear and uncluttered and I found it 
easy to use.


Hope this helps.

Lesley



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Re: [css-d] Normalizing CSS inline breadcrumbs menus

2010-08-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 A simple solution:
 
 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/08/jquery-normalizing-css-inline.html

I don't think this is a good idea regarding accessibility :-(


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[css-d] @media (max-width: 240px) {...}

2010-08-25 Thread David Laakso
This page [signature link] on a drag from a full desktop window to a 
480px window opens fine in Opera without a horizontal scroll bar. Same 
at 240px in Opera.


However in FF and Safari it's fine at 480px, but refuses to open at all 
at 240px. Why be that?


css :: around line 168
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/site/css/sisu.css

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Re: [css-d] Normalizing CSS inline breadcrumbs menus

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)

Furthermore, I see no mysterious gaps, Gabriele :

http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/tests/Inline-lists.html

Tested using Seamonkey 2.0.6 under Windows/XP;SP3.

Philip Taylor

Gabriele Romanato wrote:

 A simple solution:

 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/08/jquery-normalizing-css-inline.html

Thierry Koblentz wrote:


 I don't think this is a good idea regarding accessibility :-(
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[css-d] Extending the border-collapse property to all elements

2010-08-25 Thread Gabriele Romanato

Hello.
I don't know if the subject has already been discussed. Anyway, here  
are my 2 cents:


http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/08/css-extending-border-collapse-property.html

HTH. Bye

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Re: [css-d] @media (max-width: 240px) {...}

2010-08-25 Thread David Laakso

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:09 PM, David Laakso wrote:

  

However in FF and Safari it's fine at 480px, but refuses to open at all at 
240px. Why be that?


What do you mean 'refuses to open'.
when I resize a window with a Gecko browser to something smaller than 240px, 
the media query is applied.
  





/Smacks self/.  The Firefox/3.6.8 cache must be stuck. I did not check 
in SeaMonkey at 240px prior to writing the list. I see now that it is 
O.K. in that browser.






You can't resize a (desktop) Safari window to that size. minimum window width 
is 390px more or less.
  




I did not know that.




Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Normalizing CSS inline breadcrumbs menus

2010-08-25 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/tests/Inline-lists.html
 
 Tested using Seamonkey 2.0.6 under Windows/XP;SP3.

There is a (one) white-space node between each string.
Try:
a, strong { background: yellow;}

tabs are normalised to spaces, then collapsed together. that is the normal 
white-space processing model.

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Re: [css-d] Normalizing CSS inline breadcrumbs menus

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)

OK, then I suppose that Gabriele and I differ
over the meaning of mysterious in mysterious gaps.
I was expecting a single space-of-the-line, but
thought that Gabriele must be experiencing more in
order for them to qualify as mysterious.

Presumably white-space-collapse: discard will
remove the last space once CSS3 becomes a published
specification and browser writers rush to adopt it.

** Phil.

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:


There is a (one) white-space node between each string.
Try:
a, strong { background: yellow;}

tabs are normalised to spaces, then collapsed together. that is the normal 
white-space processing model.

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[css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu

2010-08-25 Thread Tim Wolf
I've built a prototype drop-down menu based on the Suckerfish model with some 
tweaks to use images in the top row of navs. Now I'm trying to make the first 
nav (Senators) that has quite a few list items into a two column drop-down.

Here is the original prototype using one column:

http://uatext1.cga.ct.gov/sdo/navs-suckerfish.html

Here is the one I'm trying to work into two columns (only under Senators):

http://uatext1.cga.ct.gov/sdo/navs-suckerfish2.html

Here is the CSS for the second version (only the last three classes are 
different from the first sample):

http://uatext1.cga.ct.gov/sdo/css/suckerfish2.css

Any help greatly appreciated,

Tim 


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[css-d] Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread Lineberger, Scott
I feel like I am working from the stone age.  I have a legacy custom Cobol 
application running on SCO Unix and I have built a basic, although very 
in-efficient, web order application.  If you click on the link below, you will 
see that I have a simple order form that will allow the customer to select up 
to 15 different items per order.  Each line item has a drop down that contains 
every item available for purchase, which is several thousand items, and each 
drop down contains an identical list of items.  So, 15 order lines times 
thousands of items and you have a huge html page.

There has to be a way to streamline this.  Due to the age of this server and 
the legacy app, it seems my options are limited.

http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

Scott


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Re: [css-d] Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)



Lineberger, Scott wrote:


Any and all suggestions are welcome.


Well, before the list-police step in, this probably isn't
the best place to ask (since it has nothing to do with
CSS per se), but perhaps your server technology will
allow you to dynamically add records, so the initial
form can be minimal.  There is an example of such
a form here :


http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/porphyrogenitus/Autograph-MSS-V2.3.aspx

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Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-25 Thread David Hucklesby

On 8/24/10 4:29 PM, Keith Purtell wrote:

Re David Hucklesby's reply:

First, thanks for the image citation advice.


And the navigation on the left: Somehow I have to make that fit
the available space. What to do?



Why not give it more space? This end, I have very long line lengths
on the main text - shorter would be easier to read. That would give
you more room for the navigation.


The brown area is too narrow, unless I use one of the fly-out
menus (what I call them) in the Listmania link you provided. Before
I go there, however, I'm going to try something more simple that will
post soon. It also will borrow from one of the Listmania examples.




Yes. I agree the brown area is too narrow--that was my point. What
prevents you from making it wider?

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] [OT] Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Adams
On Thursday 26 August 2010 06:07, Lineberger, Scott wrote:

[snip]

 There has to be a way to streamline this.  Due to the age of this server
 and the legacy app, it seems my options are limited.

checkboxes / tickboxes

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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread Eric A. Meyer

At 7:12 PM +0100 8/25/10, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


Well, before the list-police step in, this probably isn't
the best place to ask (since it has nothing to do with
CSS per se)...


   That makes it very much the wrong place to ask, let alone discuss, 
unless the question is how to use CSS to make the form look better. 
Since it wasn't, so far as I can tell, the thread is therefore ended.


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[css-d] IE8 rendering issue

2010-08-25 Thread Scott Povlot
I need some help with a rendering problem on IE8 that does not show on other 
browsers including IE7, Firefox and Chrome. I am using an image replacement 
technique for the title header.  On IE8, there is a large gap at top of the 
image so the backgrounds don't match up.

The website is http://piedmont-div.org/pilgrimage/ .

The CSS in question is :

#header h1 {
background: transparent url(/pilgrimage/images/pp_title.jpg) no-repeat top 
left; 
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-size: 3em;
font-weight: bold;
overflow:hidden;
text-indent:-5000px;
height:79px;
}

The HTML is 
h1Piedmont Pilgrimage/h1

I thought this might be related to a hasLayout issue.  But adding zoom:1 did 
not seem to help. 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards,

Scott Povlot


  
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Re: [css-d] IE8 rendering issue

2010-08-25 Thread David Laakso

Scott Povlot wrote:
I need some help with a rendering problem on IE8 that does not show on other 
browsers including IE7, Firefox and Chrome. I am using an image replacement 
technique for the title header.  On IE8, there is a large gap at top of the 
image so the backgrounds don't match up.


The website is http://piedmont-div.org/pilgrimage/ .


Scott Povlot

  









Umm, I think it show up in all browsers that open a window wider than 
1152px. I am at 1680 / 116.5dpi -- a full length line-measure set 20 
percent less than my default becomes extremely difficult to read.


An easy-out, that would close the gap and simutaneously create a more 
readable line-measure is to set at fixed 980 width and center the page 
between the rails. Or wait to hear from other responders. In the 
meantime, it may be advantageous to validate.



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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread John D



   That makes it very much the wrong place to ask, let alone discuss, 
unless the question is how to use CSS to make the form look better. Since 
it wasn't, so far as I can tell, the thread is therefore ended.


Perhaps it was implied in the question by saying:

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

You seem to be quite heavy handed these days when the number of postings per 
day is on a reducing scale!  Do you intend to shut down this discussion 
group? 


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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Out of the stone age

2010-08-25 Thread Eric A. Meyer

At 12:54 AM +0100 8/26/10, John D wrote:

That makes it very much the wrong place to ask, let alone 
discuss, unless the question is how to use CSS to make the form 
look better. Since it wasn't, so far as I can tell, the thread is 
therefore ended.


Perhaps it was implied in the question by saying:

Any and all suggestions are welcome.


   The problem was framed as a problem of generating a huge amount of 
markup from a legacy system.  If it had then included something like 
how do I make this page look better with CSS? then that would have 
been on-topic.  Tacking on a wide-open question such as the above 
does not imply that such a question was asked, however.


You seem to be quite heavy handed these days when the number of 
postings per day is on a reducing scale!  Do you intend to shut down 
this discussion group?


   Assuming that taking administrative action twice in the past few 
weeks constitutes quite a heavy hand, then my hand has become heavier 
due to the increased number of off-topic postings.  For some time, 
the community was essentially self-regulating.  This seems to be less 
true of late and so I have taken a more active role, as has sometimes 
been the case since I founded the list back in January of 2002. 
Until the list really is shut down or I have handed the reins over to 
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   Moreover, I pity the members of any mailing list whose metric of 
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   As I said before, this thread is done-- though if the original 
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Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-25 Thread Keith Purtell
Time, and considering keeping the existing brown area, putting brief
text in the nav buttons. Then they'd see the full page title when they
got there.

So many options.

Thanks again for helping.

- Keith Purtell


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Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-25 Thread David Laakso

Keith Purtell wrote:

Time, and considering keeping the existing brown area, putting brief
text in the nav buttons. Then they'd see the full page title when they
got there.

So many options.

Thanks again for helping.

- Keith Purtell



  




So many options. So little time. What is your uri?

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PS Try to keep it simple whatever and whatever  it is...


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