Re: [css-d] can an absolute box inside a relative one expand it?

2011-05-18 Thread sweepslate
 My security software forbids any page located at
 http://www.geocities.ws/ to load. May I suggest a new hosting provider
 if you want people to look at the code.

Strange. Is geocities.ws a host for malware? In any case, John D tipped
me on another service.

Here is what I'm trying to achieve:

  http://sweepslate.vacau.com/absolute-in-relative/desired-result.png

here is my failed effort:

  http://sweepslate.vacau.com/absolute-in-relative/expand-failure.html

and here is another failed effort to use z-index and negetive margin
with float:

  http://sweepslate.vacau.com/absolute-in-relative/float-test.html

 A pointer about absolute and fixed positioning. The only way to counter
 elements removed from the normal flow is to add padding to something
 that equal the heights and widths of positioned elements. In you case,
 this would be the content div.

And in the meantime, leave me some time to experiment with this.
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Re: [css-d] can someone explain?

2011-05-18 Thread Sara Haradhvala
Kevin - I understand the border now.  The text was calculated to be 19.2px by 
the browser, so adding a border made it 20.2, and the 2nd list element didn't 
slide to the left.  Your explanation has helped a lot.  Thanks again.

Sara


On May 17, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Kevin A. Cameron wrote:

 I think this makes sense. Because the lis are floated the uls have 0 
 height, so they both start at the same location. When you add negative margin 
 to the first li it's pulled above the containing ul. The second li when 
 floated left only sees the beginning of the ul and then is pulled up, and 
 thereby overlapping. 
 
 I'm sure someone here knows more about box model implementations by browsers 
 and could provide a more technical answer.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Sara Haradhvala har...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi Jim,
 
 Margins and padding are 0.
 
 Here is the HTML:
 
 div id=menu
ul
li
a href=#a1/a
a href=#a2/a
/li
/ul
ul
li
a href=#b1/a
a href=#b2/a
/li
/ul
 /div
 
 The CSS is:
 
 * {margin:0; padding:0}
 #menu {margin-top:20px}
 ul {list-style:none}
 ul  *  {float:left;}
 li {margin-top: -20px}
 
 Thanks,
 Sara
 
 
 
 
 On May 17, 2011, at 2:11 PM, JWN wrote:
 
  Morning Sara
 
  You wrote
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I have two unordered lists, where each list has 1 list item with 2 links. 
  If I float the list items and anchors left, all 4 anchors line up 
  horizontally as expected. If I add a margin to the list items (but not the 
  anchors), all anchors move down and are still horizontally lined up as 
  expected.  But if I put a negative margin on the list items instead, the 
  anchors move up as expected, but the anchors from the 2nd list  overlay 
  the anchors from the first list instead of sitting to the right of them. 
  I'm not understanding why this is, and hope someone can explain.
 
  I'm using firefox 4 on the Mac.
 
  Thanks,
  Sara
 
 
  Just a guess but you might try zeroing out margins and padding on the body.
 
  body {
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
 
  Can you provide a link to an actual page or at least a test page showing 
  the problem? It's always easier to help when we can see what is going on 
  with the rest of CSS /  xHTML.
 
  Best
 
  Jim Nannery
  www.oldcurmudgeon.net
 
 
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[css-d] IE6,7 8 Float problems - Can anyone help

2011-05-18 Thread sodit
Hi

I have been searching the archives and trying out the IE bug fixes but it's
still bugging me.

The problem occurs in IE6, 7 and early 8 the right hand navigation drops
down below the main content, common enough problem I thought,  I have tried
clear properties, removed negative margins enlarged the page/wrapper size,
looked into 3px jog and various other float drop solutions,  the site
validates ok and works well on all other browsers, so  can anyone advise me
were I am or have gone wrong? the url is http://www.appledore-letting.co.uk

 

Many thanks 

 

Mark T

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [css-d] IE6,7 8 Float problems - Can anyone help

2011-05-18 Thread HallMarc Websites


 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-
 discuss.org] On Behalf Of sodit
 Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:37 AM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] IE6,7  8 Float problems - Can anyone help
 
 Hi
 
 I have been searching the archives and trying out the IE bug fixes but
it's still
 bugging me.
 
 The problem occurs in IE6, 7 and early 8 the right hand navigation drops
down
 below the main content, common enough problem I thought,  I have tried
 clear properties, removed negative margins enlarged the page/wrapper size,
 looked into 3px jog and various other float drop solutions,  the site
validates
 ok and works well on all other browsers, so  can anyone advise me were I
am
 or have gone wrong? the url is http://www.appledore-letting.co.uk
 
 
 
 Many thanks
 
 
 
 Mark T
From what I can see you have two issues:
1) you have padding-left for the content id set to 24px even though you only
have 23px available
2) you have sidebar2 and the clear div outside of the page wrapper.

Fix these and you should be good to go

Thank you,
Marc Hall
HallMarc Websites
610.446.3346
http://www.hallmarcwebsites.com/ 

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Re: [css-d] Borders oddity when page viewed in Chrome

2011-05-18 Thread Keith Purtell
On 5/3/2011 12:45 AM, css-d-requ...@lists.css-discuss.org wrote:
 On May 1, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Keith Purtell wrote:
  I noticed the following problem today
  when I view my splash page in Google Chrome. The lower borders in the
  navigation box render normally, but all vertical and topmost borders are
  too light. I'm baffled.
  
  http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/chrome.png
 Interesting?
 Which OS is that ? And which version of Chrome ?
 Looking at the screenshot, the lower borders are rendered twice - once the 
 expected color, once a lighter shade. Looks more like an issue with graphics 
 rendering libs. it is like the borders are not painted hooked on the pixel 
 grid (painted between 2 pixels).
 
 Does it changes if you resize the window slightly (making the width an even 
 or odd number of pixels) ?
 
 #navigatex is set to have a width of 604px (even), but due to margin: auto, 
 it doesn't always land exactly on the pixel grid, depending on the width of 
 the parent blocks(s)/viewport. Each LI has a computed height of 109px (odd 
 number !) on my system.
 
Philippe, David, et al...
Sorry for the ridiculously tardy reply. Something big came up. I took
all the suggestions and reworked the style sheet wherever it seemed
appropriate. The results were successful. Thank you!

-KP

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Re: [css-d] can someone explain?

2011-05-18 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Oh LOL! Serves me right for using an ol...

Kevin


On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.comwrote:


 On May 18, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Kevin A. Cameron wrote:

  While testing I came across this weird bug/artifact. the contents of the
  ol lis (1 2 3) are shown twice:
  http://www.kacevisual.com/files/float-test/float-test.html
 
  Does anyone understand why?

 They are not really rendered twice. Change the textual contents of your ol
  li elements to read ‘x’ ‘y’ ‘z’ instead of ‘1’ ‘2’ ‘3’ and you’ll see what
 is happening.

 The first digit you see in your test case is the list marker, the second
 one is the textual content of the li.

 Philippe
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 Philippe Wittenbergh
 http://l-c-n.com/







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Re: [css-d] chrome css problem: border around link not respected

2011-05-18 Thread Paulo Silva
thx, tried again with inline-block and this solves the issue without causing
too much trouble in IE7 :)

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:40 AM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:12 AM, David
 Hucklesbyhuckle...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 5/17/11 6:07 PM, Paulo Silva wrote:

  Hi all,

 I have this small testcase: http://jsfiddle.net/sV8js/

  [...]


 I don't know if that's a bug or not. But you will apply more of
 your CSS to those links if you make them display: inline-block;

 At the moment, vertical padding is not applied. I agree your result
 is unexpected. -- Cordially, David


 On 5/17/11 9:25 PM, Paulo Silva wrote:

 Sorry, I forgot to mention I found this bug exactly because I'm
 removing inline-block from my css, so that's what I want to avoid
 (for IE7 compatibility) :)


 Why? display:inline-block gives IE 6 and 7 hasLayout which behaves
 very much like inline-block when applied to elements that are inline -
 as your links are...
 --
 Cordially,
 David

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