[css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Debbie Campbell
In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient 
doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser 
window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the 
original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it 
or suggest another way to handle it?



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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Kim Fernandez
My Manager is looking for a graphic designer for a 2 week job...please
respond to this email if interested.

Thanks
Kim


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Debbie Campbell 
d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:

 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser
 window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the
 original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or
 suggest another way to handle it?

  http://www.redkitecreative.**com/projects/prsold/**
 construction-and-commercial/http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/


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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Eric A. Meyer

At 10:05 -0500 1/29/13, Kim Fernandez wrote:


My Manager is looking for a graphic designer for a 2 week job...please
respond to this email if interested.


   To everyone besides Kim:  if you do, please make sure to do so off 
list, but also consider whether you want to work on such a short-term 
basis for a nameless firm that apparently doesn't see fit to respect 
the rules of conduct of a public forum.  (See 
http://css-discuss.org/policies.html, a URL found in the footer of 
every message sent via the list.)
   In the meantime, the original poster Debbie's question about 
gradients is interesting, and I hope it gets an informative answer. 
I'd investigate it myself if I had an Android tablet handy.


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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Tom Livingston
Out of curiosity, have you tested on an iPad and does it have the same
issue? I don't have a 10 Android tablet to test with...


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Debbie Campbell 
d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:

 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser
 window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the
 original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or
 suggest another way to handle it?

  http://www.redkitecreative.**com/projects/prsold/**
 construction-and-commercial/http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/


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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread valnm258
No problem on my iPad2. Val

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Out of curiosity, have you tested on an iPad and does it have the same
 issue? I don't have a 10 Android tablet to test with...
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Debbie Campbell 
 d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:
 
 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser
 window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the
 original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or
 suggest another way to handle it?
 
 http://www.redkitecreative.**com/projects/prsold/**
 construction-and-commercial/http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/
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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Eric A. Meyer

At 10:36 -0500 1/29/13, Kim Fernandez wrote:


EricYou obviously are a rude individual with no respect.


   Perhaps so, but I'm also the person in charge of the list and 
enforcing its rules on those who rudely disrespect them.  If you wish 
to act in accordance with the list's policies, then you are welcome 
to rejoin.  If not, then please feel free to assign all the blame to 
me and abstain from further subjecting yourself to the indignity of 
dealing with me.  Thank you.


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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Eric A. Meyer
   Oops.  That was supposed to be sent in private, not to the list. 
Sorry about that, everyone.  Let this stand as a testament to the 
universal truth: that eventually, no matter how long you have been 
online or how careful you try to be, you will eventually fall victim 
to one of the classic blunders: the inappropriate Reply All.
   Please don't perpetuate this fraying side of the thread any 
further, as I did.  In penance, I will now go add my own email 
address to the approve before posting list filter, so that the next 
few times I reply I will be reminded of my error and (with luck) 
learn from it.


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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread David Hucklesby

On 1/29/13 6:52 AM, Debbie Campbell wrote:

In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser
window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the
original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or
suggest another way to handle it?


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Just a stab in the dark from me, as I don't have an Android of any kind:

Try putting that gradient on the HTML element instead of the BODY. I had a
similar issue where HTML and BODY were declared height: 100%; so you could
also try, say, body { min-height: 100%; } instead. (?)

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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Marcos Gonzales
I don't have a 10 Android to test, but looking at it in FF, I see that 
you have declared html and body height: 100% in screen.css(line 33).  
This seems to cause the html and body to only be as long as the window.  
Try removing this declaration and see if it helps on the tablet, too.


MG

On 01/29/2013 07:52 AM, Debbie Campbell wrote:
In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background 
gradient doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the 
browser window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white 
below the original window. Can someone point me in the right direction 
to fix it or suggest another way to handle it?


http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/ 





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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Freelance Traveller
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:42:41 -0500, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
wrote:

Out of curiosity, have you tested on an iPad and does it have the same
issue? I don't have a 10 Android tablet to test with...

I have a smaller (9) tablet - a Nook HD+ with the N2ACards Android
conversion card installed - and I do see the effect indicated when using
Dolphin Browser, which is webkit-based. Checking against Chrome on a
Windows 7 PC, I see the gradient background, but not the problem
indicated. It appears to me that the issue might be that the rendering
engine doesn't properly handle background: fixed in the Android
implementation.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Debbie Campbell 
d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:

 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser
 window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the
 original window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or
 suggest another way to handle it?

  http://www.redkitecreative.**com/projects/prsold/**
 construction-and-commercial/http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/


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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Gautam Sathe
On 01/29/2013 07:52 AM, Debbie Campbell wrote:
 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background 
 gradient doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the 
 browser window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white 
 below the original window. Can someone point me in the right direction 
 to fix it or suggest another way to handle it?

 http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/


Really strange.

I am looking at the link on a 7 tab... I don't seem to be getting any gradient 
at all for the background.

I can send a screenshot off-list if you want.

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[css-d] IE Browser Mode; IE Document Mode

2013-01-29 Thread Gates, Jeff
I'd like some clarification on how !DOCTYPE and legacy modes affect the
look of a web page in versions of IE.

I work with many people so I am not in total control of how pages are
coded. But I would like to know enough to bring up a discussion amongst my
fellow workers so we can be consistent and present the best page possible.
So I have a number of questions.

Right now we use a tag on our pages that tells the page to render in IE7:
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=7. In working on a new
splash page all looked good in Firefox, Chrome, Safari but there were some
strange things going on when I looked at it in IE8. I see that when I
change the meta tag to display the page in IE8 instead of IE7 most of
those issues go away. So with that in mind:

If we change the meta tag to display in IE8 instead of IE7 what will
people who are using IE7 see (what mode will our page be displayed in)? We
no longer are supporting IE6 and below. Depending on the answer to this
question, perhaps we should stop developing for IE7 as well. What's your
opinion?

Our doctype at the moment is:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;


If we changed this to:

!DOCTYPE html
html


How would this affect what IE7 and IE8 render our pages?

I'm trying to understand if there is any reason we shouldn't start
stipulating an HTML5 doctype and if forcing to render our pages in IE8
(and perhaps IE9 as well) would adversely affect those viewing our pages
in IE7.

Thanks.

Jeff

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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Gail Issen
I just looked at the site on my iPad and on my computer and have the
following observations:

o   On my computer screen the gradient shows nicely.
o   On my iPad and on my iPhone, there is no background at all ...
either in portrait or landscape mode. To my mind, this is exactly what it
should be since the site is designed as responsive. (Actually, on the iPad,
the background flashes for a fraction of a second before the page displays
without it. The background flash is too short to be able to see whether it
is a gradient or solid.)

Unless you see something very different on the Android, my advice is to
ignore the issue and know that you have created a very useful and clean
looking site that displays well on all devices.

Kudos!

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:42:41 -0500, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
wrote:

Out of curiosity, have you tested on an iPad and does it have the same 
issue? I don't have a 10 Android tablet to test with...

I have a smaller (9) tablet - a Nook HD+ with the N2ACards Android
conversion card installed - and I do see the effect indicated when using
Dolphin Browser, which is webkit-based. Checking against Chrome on a Windows
7 PC, I see the gradient background, but not the problem indicated. It
appears to me that the issue might be that the rendering engine doesn't
properly handle background: fixed in the Android implementation.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Debbie Campbell
d...@redkitecreative.comwrote:

 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background 
 gradient doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the 
 browser window. If you have to scroll down, the background is white 
 below the original window. Can someone point me in the right 
 direction to fix it or suggest another way to handle it?

  http://www.redkitecreative.**com/projects/prsold/**
 construction-and-commercial/http://www.redkitecreative.com/project
 s/prsold/construction-and-commercial/


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[css-d] Test

2013-01-29 Thread Marcos Gonzales
Just running a test as I am new to the list and did not see my earlier 
message come through.

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[css-d] Form layout patterns

2013-01-29 Thread Tom Livingston
Hello all,

Do any of you have a favorite form styling/structure pattern that you
always use? I am particularly looking for a layout that has labels next to
form fields as opposed to above them. Also, multiple fields on one line,
like 'state' and 'zip' next to each other, with respective labels, all on
one line.

Every time I have to do a form I usually end up doing battle with some
aspect of it. Getting the above mentioned scenario all on one line, having
labels vertically centered on the height of the fields next to them, etc
always seems to be a stumbling block for me. It never goes smoothly. I've
tried several approaches, but each seems to have a downside.

Off-list replies as necessary...

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Re: [css-d] CSS linear gradient in Android tablet not extending to bottom of page

2013-01-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 29 janv. 2013 à 23:52, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com a écrit :

 In my 10 Android tablet in landscape view, the CSS3 background gradient 
 doesn't stretch to the bottom of the page, it only fills the browser window. 
 If you have to scroll down, the background is white below the original 
 window. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix it or suggest 
 another way to handle it?
 
 http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/prsold/construction-and-commercial/

I don't have any Android based tablet either to test.
On my iPad2, the teal based background is not visible at all (the #wrapper div 
nicely fills the viewport, which is to be expected given the meta viewport 
declaration). A quick test case using your code works just fine, however (the 
iPad is running iOS 6.1, I also checked in the iOS simulator running iOS 5.1 
and iOS 6.0).

That said, based on your description, I have the nagging feeling that your 
device doesn't support 'background-attachment: fixed'. In that case, the 
gradient will be as tall as the viewport (that is different from the document 
height).

BTW does that happen with any browser on that device, or only with the default 
browser ?

Workarounds:
1- remove the 'html, body {height: 100%}'
 – side effect: the background-gradient will be as tall as the 
document, not the viewport; probably not what you want.

OR

2- add a background-color declaration, matching the end-point of your gradient, 
like this:

body {
background: #649697; /*  remove this Old browsers */
background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #649697 16%, #234646 100%); /* 
FF3.6+ */
/* … snip … /
background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #649697 16%,#234646 100%); /* 
W3C */ 
background-color: #234646; /* --- add this - old browsers + 
fall back background-color */
background-attachment: fixed;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
}

PS - You can remove the -ms- prefixed gradient, IE 10 supports the un-prefixed 
syntax just fine, and older versions of IE don't support CSS gradients.



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Android.
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Re: [css-d] IE Browser Mode; IE Document Mode

2013-01-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 30 janv. 2013 à 02:22, Gates, Jeff gat...@si.edu a écrit :

 Right now we use a tag on our pages that tells the page to render in IE7:
 meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=7. In working on a new
 splash page all looked good in Firefox, Chrome, Safari but there were some
 strange things going on when I looked at it in IE8. I see that when I
 change the meta tag to display the page in IE8 instead of IE7 most of
 those issues go away. So with that in mind:
 
 If we change the meta tag to display in IE8 instead of IE7 what will
 people who are using IE7 see (what mode will our page be displayed in)? We
 no longer are supporting IE6 and below. Depending on the answer to this
 question, perhaps we should stop developing for IE7 as well. What's your
 opinion?

For _new_ documents, you should always push IE to display in the latest mode 
(that it supports):
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge

Then test in older versions and add some adjustments as needed (i.e.via 
conditional comments).

 If we changed this to:
 
 !DOCTYPE html
 html
 
 
 How would this affect what IE7 and IE8 render our pages?

With the HTML5 doctype, IE 6 and up will all render in 'strict' mode, or their 
understanding of it…; there are some differences with what you use now (strict 
vs transitional). But as noted above, adjust for older browsers if needed.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] IE Browser Mode; IE Document Mode

2013-01-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 30 janv. 2013 à 02:22, Gates, Jeff gat...@si.edu a écrit :

 Right now we use a tag on our pages that tells the page to render in IE7:
 meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=7. In working on a new
 splash page all looked good in Firefox, Chrome, Safari but there were some
 strange things going on when I looked at it in IE8. I see that when I
 change the meta tag to display the page in IE8 instead of IE7 most of
 those issues go away. So with that in mind:
 
 If we change the meta tag to display in IE8 instead of IE7 what will
 people who are using IE7 see (what mode will our page be displayed in)? We
 no longer are supporting IE6 and below. Depending on the answer to this
 question, perhaps we should stop developing for IE7 as well. What's your
 opinion?

For _new_ documents, you should always push IE to display in the latest mode 
(that it supports):
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge

Then test in older versions and add some adjustments as needed (i.e.via 
conditional comments).

 If we changed this to:
 
 !DOCTYPE html
 html
 
 
 How would this affect what IE7 and IE8 render our pages?

With the HTML5 doctype, IE 6 and up will all render in 'strict' mode, or their 
understanding of it…; there are some differences with what you use now (strict 
vs transitional). But as noted above, adjust for older browsers if needed.

Philippe
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http://l-c-n.com




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