[css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher

David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all 
window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to IE.  
Arghh !

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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
 window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
 IE.  Arghh !

 __


I can't help still leaning towards browser settings. Have you double
checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Philip Taylor



Crest Christopher wrote:


David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on
all window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox
compared to IE.


And your browser font selection for serif in Firefox and IE; is that,
too, the same ?  And even if it is, there is no guarantee that your real
visitors will have the same font customisation.

More simply :  Adobe PDF is intended for documents that must be rendered
identically regardless of platform; HTML and CSS are intended to 
/suggest/ how a document should appear, without any real control,

particularly when it comes to control over fonts, line-breaking, etc.

The impossible is the impossible :  never seek to question it.

Philip Taylor

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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Rockwell
Do you have a link to the page in question? Maybe I missed it in the thread?


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't
 look right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, not
 firefox.

 Tom Livingston wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

 David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on
 all
 window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
 IE.  Arghh !

 __



 I can't help still leaning towards browser settings. Have you double
 checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
Here is the updated link 
http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/webdesignprojects/largeprojects/cs_site.html.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't look
right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, not
firefox.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
IE.  Arghh !

__

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checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?




Do you have an updated link to look at?



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is the updated link.


 Tom Livingston wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't look
 right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, not
 firefox.


 Tom Livingston wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
 window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
 IE.  Arghh !

 __

 I can't help still leaning towards browser settings. Have you double
 checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?



 Do you have an updated link to look at?

Chrome on top, FF Aurora behind:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2616576/Screen%20Shot%202014-03-19%20at%2011.23.10%20AM.png


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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't look
 right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, not
 firefox.


 Tom Livingston wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
 window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
 IE.  Arghh !

 __

 I can't help still leaning towards browser settings. Have you double
 checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?



Do you have an updated link to look at?


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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or nothing at
 all ?



 I changed nothing.



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher

Good news, I think I solved it.
FireFox 27.x
Options  Content  Fonts  Colors: previously it was set on some other 
font, I don't know how that happened, but firefox was crashing alot a 
month ago maybe I was unaware things were changing around in the 
options, that was probably fixed with a Firefox update.


Anyhow I changed the default font to, Times New Roman and the font sizes 
look identical to that of Chrome and IE.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or nothing at
all ?




I changed nothing.




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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the 
word tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I 
confined the anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the 
other text ?



Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Tom Livingstontom...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or nothing at
all ?


I changed nothing.



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or 
nothing at all ?


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Here is the updated link.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't look
right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, not
firefox.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
IE.  Arghh !

__

I can't help still leaning towards browser settings. Have you double
checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?



Do you have an updated link to look at?


Chrome on top, FF Aurora behind:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2616576/Screen%20Shot%202014-03-19%20at%2011.23.10%20AM.png



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or nothing at
 all ?



I changed nothing.



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
Zoom and Text scaling is at 100% in all browsers.  Arghh the text won't 
look right in FireFox, I don't understand, I was expecting this in IE, 
not firefox.


Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

David Hucklesby - I added {font-family:serif;} considering serif is on all
window computers.  The font sizes remain different in firefox compared to
IE.  Arghh !

__



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checked that zoom/text scaling is at 100% in all browsers?




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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank You for the help !


 Tom Livingston wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Crest Christopher
 crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the word
 tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I confined the
 anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the other text ?



 They overlap. Hit areas are on top of eachother. Not sure you can
 avoid this as built.



You might butt them up to each other (no overlap) and mess with fixed
height containers, text size and overflow:hidden to get close. Maybe.
Haven't tested.




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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher

Thank You for the help !

Tom Livingston wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the word
tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I confined the
anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the other text ?





They overlap. Hit areas are on top of eachother. Not sure you can
avoid this as built.




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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the word
 tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I confined the
 anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the other text ?




They overlap. Hit areas are on top of eachother. Not sure you can
avoid this as built.



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Re: [css-d] Line Height doesn't effect all pseduo elements

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I can successfully change the line height for {h3.contact a:
 font-size:7em;line-height:40%;} but when I add line-height to {h3.gallery
 a:hover - color:orange;line-height: 40%;} nothing changes.  I know I can
 change the line height for the list with {nav li}.  I want a little more
 control over each pseudo element.
 __


You don't appear to be changing anything on hover. Are all links
default of 7em and 40% line-height? If so, having 40% line-height on
hover won't change.

This works, but an extreme amount will get flaky fast:

!DOCTYPE html
html lang=en
head
meta charset=utf-8

title/title

style
a{font-size: 2em; line-height: 20%;}
a:hover{line-height: 80%;}
p{width: 100px;}
/style

/head

body
div class=main role=main
pa href=This is a really long link to test line-height
on hover./a/p
/div
/body
/html


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[css-d] Line Height doesn't effect all pseduo elements

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
Hi, I can successfully change the line height for {h3.contact a: 
font-size:7em;line-height:40%;} but when I add line-height to 
{h3.gallery a:hover - color:orange;line-height: 40%;} nothing changes.  
I know I can change the line height for the list with {nav li}.  I want 
a little more control over each pseudo element.

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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread JAY TANNA
You need validate your HTML because I have noticed you have DIV tags as 
children of h3 tags.  These errors do affect how the page is displayed in 
Standards Compliant Web Browsers.


Same thing with CSS.  It should also be validated.  I haven't done it but 
you get the idea.



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To: Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
Cc: CSS-Discuss css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the word 
tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I confined the 
anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the other text ?



Tom Livingston wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Tom Livingstontom...@gmail.com 
wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:
It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or 
nothing at

all ?


I changed nothing.



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Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
I will, I only forget to do these things when it's 11:30 PM at night :) 
When I should be just watching animals on YouTube or going to bed


JAY TANNA wrote:
You need validate your HTML because I have noticed you have DIV tags 
as children of h3 tags.  These errors do affect how the page is 
displayed in Standards Compliant Web Browsers.


Same thing with CSS.  It should also be validated.  I haven't done it 
but you get the idea.



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To: Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com
Cc: CSS-Discuss css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Subject: Font Size Small in FireFox ?

I have a question, how come when I hover over the word 'gallery' the 
word tutorial changes color as set for the hover rule.  How do I 
confined the anchor size to the word, not so that it spills onto the 
other text ?



Tom Livingston wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Tom Livingstontom...@gmail.com 
wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Crest Christopher
crestchristop...@gmail.com  wrote:
It looks identical, did you change any rule in the style sheet or 
nothing at

all ?


I changed nothing.



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[css-d] Space between text {Chrome}

2014-03-19 Thread Crest Christopher
I want to remove the space between gallery  tutorials which only 
exists in Chrome :-(
[Link 
http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/webdesignprojects/largeprojects/cs_site.html]




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Re: [css-d] Space between text {Chrome}

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to remove the space between gallery  tutorials which only
 exists in Chrome :-(
 [Link http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/webdesignprojects/
 largeprojects/cs_site.html]





Adding h3.gallery{margin: 0;} helped

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Re: [css-d] Line Height doesn't effect all pseduo elements

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Livingston
Also, see:
http://css-tricks.com/almanac/properties/l/line-height/






*Unitless Line HeightsThe recommended method for defining line height is
using a number value, referred to as a unitless line height. A number
value can be any number, including a decimal-based number, as is used in
the first code example on this page.Unitless line heights are recommended
due to the fact that child elements will inherit the raw number value,
rather than the computed value. With this, child elements can compute their
line heights based on their computed font size, rather than inheriting an
arbitrary value from a parent that is more likely to need overriding.*


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Crest Christopher 
crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I can successfully change the line height for {h3.contact a:
 font-size:7em;line-height:40%;} but when I add line-height to {h3.gallery
 a:hover - color:orange;line-height: 40%;} nothing changes.  I know I can
 change the line height for the list with {nav li}.  I want a little more
 control over each pseudo element.
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[css-d] what happened to Owen Briggs?

2014-03-19 Thread Brian Jones
I remember years ago when I first started doing web development and messing
around with CSS, Owen Briggs was one of the guys that I would learn from. I
was just curious does anyone know what happened to him, is he still part of
the web community?


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