Re: [css-d] Site Check

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Doades



David Laakso wrote:

Andrew Doades wrote:
  
I though this group would be the best place to get a full, detailed 
site check...


http://weplan.co.uk/

Please and Thanks to all,
Andrew




Seems to do fine cross-browser on a Mac and PC.  If you where to  ask 
the  same question over coffee, rather than this list,  I /might/ 
respond differently.


  

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[css-d] Site Check

2008-06-26 Thread Andrew Doades
I though this group would be the best place to get a full, detailed site 
check...


http://weplan.co.uk/

Please and Thanks to all,
Andrew
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[css-d] Movable content

2008-05-15 Thread Andrew Doades
Not sure if this is a css question or now but I can not think of 
anywhere else to look...

On the new www.bbc.co.uk website and igoogle you have the ability to 
move the objects around, anyone know how the heck I do that?

Cheers,
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Re: [css-d] Positioning form elements

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Doades
Not being a big knowledge man of css but I would have thought you would 
need, ul and li in there?
ul
lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
/ul

and in your css have something like 

#nav ul {
  margin-left: 2em;
  padding-left: 0;
  color: #00;
}

Andrew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm new to CSS. But I need to position four form elements in a very
 thin nav bar. Here is my HTML code:

 div id=nav
  div id=nav_left
 a href=index.phpHome/a |a href=complete.php
 Browse All Titles/a | a href=author.phpAbout Author/a/div
 div id=bookmarktable width=307 border=0
 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
   tr
 td width=64 valign=middleBrowse by/td
 td width=113 valign=middleform action= method=get
 Title
 select name=var size=1

  option value=AA/option

  option value=BB/option

  option value=CC/option

  option value=EE/option

  option value=FF/option

  option value=GG/option

  option value=HH/option

  option value=II/option

  option value=JJ/option

  option value=KK/option

  option value=LL/option

  option value=MM/option

  option value=NN/option

  option value=OO/option

  option value=PP/option

  option value=QQ/option

  option value=RR/option

  option value=SS/option

  option value=TT/option

  option value=UU/option

  option value=VV/option

  option value=WW/option

  option value=XX/option

  option value=YY/option

  option value=ZZ/option

  option value=11/option

  option value=22/option

  option value=33/option

  option value=44/option

  option value=55/option

  option value=66/option

  option value=77/option

  option value=88/option

  option value=99/option

  option value=00/option

 /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/tdtd width=123 valign=middleform action=
 method=getDecade select name=var size=1

  option value=19501950s/option

  option value=19601960s/option

  option value=19701970s/option

  option value=19801980s/option

  option value=19901990s/option

  option value=20002000s/option
   /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/td
   /tr
 /table

 /div
 /div


 And here are the applicable styles:


 #nav {
 background-image: url(../img/navback.jpg);
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 background-position: left top;
 border: thin solid #7a8251;
 height: 25px;
 width: 771px;
 }
 #nav_left {
 width: 400px;
 float: left;
 text-align: left;
 padding-top: 5px;
 padding-right: 5px;
 padding-bottom: 7px;
 padding-left: 5px;
 }
 #bookmark {
 width: 300px;
 float: right;
 text-align: right;
 display: inline;
 padding-top: 5px;
 padding-right: 3px;
 padding-bottom: 5px;
 }
 .inputbutton {
 margin-right: 3px;
 margin-left: 3px;
 }
 select {
 display: inline-table;
 font-size: 75%;
 padding: 0px;
 }


 But, the form elements are sitting low and not aligning as needed. The
 input buttons are sitting too high.

 There is a screenshot at http://www.graiai.com/snap.jpg

 This is taken in Firefox on a Mac. On IE 7, the dropdowns sit even lower.

 I don't know what to do! Any ideas?

 Jeremy
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Re: [css-d] Positioning form elements

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Doades
Not entirely sure what you are asking here?

When I look at your screen print, it looks ok in IE.
I think something like   float:right;
is what you want??

Andrew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you, Andrew! I'll definitely try this out.

 Another area of concern is with the right-side form elements. They are
 not aligning properly and nothing I've tried has worked.

 Any advice in solving this issue as well would be appreciated.

 Jeremy




 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Not being a big knowledge man of css but I would have thought you would
 need, ul and li in there?
 ul
 lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
 lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
 /ul

 and in your css have something like
 #nav ul {
  margin-left: 2em;
  padding-left: 0;
  color: #00;
 }

 Andrew

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 I'm new to CSS. But I need to position four form elements in a very
 thin nav bar. Here is my HTML code:

div id=nav
 div id=nav_left
a href=index.phpHome/a |a href=complete.php
 Browse All Titles/a | a href=author.phpAbout Author/a/div
div id=bookmarktable width=307 border=0
 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
  tr
td width=64 valign=middleBrowse by/td
 td width=113 valign=middleform action= method=get
Title
select name=var size=1

  option value=AA/option

  option value=BB/option

  option value=CC/option

  option value=EE/option

  option value=FF/option

  option value=GG/option

  option value=HH/option

  option value=II/option

  option value=JJ/option

  option value=KK/option

  option value=LL/option

  option value=MM/option

  option value=NN/option

  option value=OO/option

  option value=PP/option

  option value=QQ/option

  option value=RR/option

  option value=SS/option

  option value=TT/option

  option value=UU/option

  option value=VV/option

  option value=WW/option

  option value=XX/option

  option value=YY/option

  option value=ZZ/option

  option value=11/option

  option value=22/option

  option value=33/option

  option value=44/option

  option value=55/option

  option value=66/option

  option value=77/option

  option value=88/option

  option value=99/option

  option value=00/option

/selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/tdtd width=123 valign=middleform action=
 method=getDecade select name=var size=1

  option value=19501950s/option

  option value=19601960s/option

  option value=19701970s/option

  option value=19801980s/option

  option value=19901990s/option

  option value=20002000s/option
  /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/td
  /tr
 /table

/div
/div


 And here are the applicable styles:


 #nav {
background-image: url(../img/navback.jpg);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: left top;
border: thin solid #7a8251;
height: 25px;
width: 771px;
 }
 #nav_left {
width: 400px;
float: left;
text-align: left;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-right: 5px;
padding-bottom: 7px;
padding-left: 5px;
 }
 #bookmark {
width: 300px;
float: right;
text-align: right;
display: inline;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-right: 3px;
padding-bottom: 5px;
 }
 .inputbutton {
margin-right: 3px;
margin-left: 3px;
 }
 select {
display: inline-table;
font-size: 75%;
padding: 0px;
 }


 But, the form elements are sitting low and not aligning as needed. The
 input buttons are sitting too high.

 There is a screenshot at http://www.graiai.com/snap.jpg

 This is taken in Firefox on a Mac. On IE 7, the dropdowns sit even lower.

 I don't know what to do! Any ideas?

 Jeremy
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Re: [css-d] Positioning form elements

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Doades
ok, I think you need:

td {display: line;}body {
margin-top: 0px;
margin-left: 0px;
margin-right: 0px;
}

td
ul
lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
/ul
/td

You may need to do something like this to get it to work.

Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the screenshot that is linked, you'll notice that the vertical
 alignment of the two dropdown menus and two input buttons is
 incorrect. They are at the right side.

 I've applied a tag style to the select tag. This isn't working. And
 there is a class style on the input buttons. Which is not working
 either.

 Float right works for horizontal alignment and that is how I've got
 the forms at right set up. It's the vertical alignment that is keeping
 me up at night.

 Jeremy

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Not entirely sure what you are asking here?

 When I look at your screen print, it looks ok in IE.
 I think something like   float:right;
 is what you want??



 Andrew

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thank you, Andrew! I'll definitely try this out.

 Another area of concern is with the right-side form elements. They are
 not aligning properly and nothing I've tried has worked.

 Any advice in solving this issue as well would be appreciated.

 Jeremy




 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   
 Not being a big knowledge man of css but I would have thought you would
 need, ul and li in there?
 ul
 lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
 lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
 /ul

 and in your css have something like
 #nav ul {
  margin-left: 2em;
  padding-left: 0;
  color: #00;
 }

 Andrew

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 I'm new to CSS. But I need to position four form elements in a very
 thin nav bar. Here is my HTML code:

   div id=nav
div id=nav_left
   a href=index.phpHome/a |a href=complete.php
 Browse All Titles/a | a href=author.phpAbout Author/a/div
   div id=bookmarktable width=307 border=0
 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
  tr
   td width=64 valign=middleBrowse by/td
 td width=113 valign=middleform action= method=get
   Title
   select name=var size=1

  option value=AA/option

  option value=BB/option

  option value=CC/option

  option value=EE/option

  option value=FF/option

  option value=GG/option

  option value=HH/option

  option value=II/option

  option value=JJ/option

  option value=KK/option

  option value=LL/option

  option value=MM/option

  option value=NN/option

  option value=OO/option

  option value=PP/option

  option value=QQ/option

  option value=RR/option

  option value=SS/option

  option value=TT/option

  option value=UU/option

  option value=VV/option

  option value=WW/option

  option value=XX/option

  option value=YY/option

  option value=ZZ/option

  option value=11/option

  option value=22/option

  option value=33/option

  option value=44/option

  option value=55/option

  option value=66/option

  option value=77/option

  option value=88/option

  option value=99/option

  option value=00/option

   /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/tdtd width=123 valign=middleform action=
 method=getDecade select name=var size=1

  option value=19501950s/option

  option value=19601960s/option

  option value=19701970s/option

  option value=19801980s/option

  option value=19901990s/option

  option value=20002000s/option
 /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/td
  /tr
 /table

   /div
   /div


 And here are the applicable styles:


 #nav {
   background-image: url(../img/navback.jpg);
   background-repeat: no-repeat;
   background-position: left top;
   border: thin solid #7a8251;
   height: 25px;
   width: 771px;
 }
 #nav_left {
   width: 400px;
   float: left;
   text-align: left;
   padding-top: 5px;
   padding-right: 5px;
   padding-bottom: 7px;
   padding-left: 5px;
 }
 #bookmark {
   width: 300px;
   float: right;
   text-align: right;
   display: inline;
   padding-top: 5px;
   padding-right: 3px;
   padding-bottom: 5px;
 }
 .inputbutton {
   margin-right: 3px;
   margin-left: 3px;
 }
 select {
   display: inline-table;
   font-size: 75%;
   padding: 0px;
 }


 But, the form elements are sitting low and not aligning as needed. The
 input buttons are sitting too high.

 There is a screenshot at http://www.graiai.com/snap.jpg

 This is taken in Firefox on a Mac. On IE 7, the dropdowns sit even
   
 lower.
 
 I don't know what to do! Any ideas?

 Jeremy
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Re: [css-d] Positioning form elements

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Doades
You could try:
tr
 td width=64 valign=middle display: line;Browse by/td
td width=113 valign=middle display: line;form action= 
method=get

Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But it's not the left nav...it's the right formthis:

 tr
 td width=64 valign=middleBrowse by/td
 td width=113 valign=middleform action= method=get
 Title
 select name=var size=1

  option value=AA/option

  option value=BB/option

  option value=CC/option

  option value=EE/option

  option value=FF/option

  option value=GG/option

  option value=HH/option

  option value=II/option

  option value=JJ/option

  option value=KK/option

  option value=LL/option

  option value=MM/option

  option value=NN/option

  option value=OO/option

  option value=PP/option

  option value=QQ/option

  option value=RR/option

  option value=SS/option

  option value=TT/option

  option value=UU/option

  option value=VV/option

  option value=WW/option

  option value=XX/option

  option value=YY/option

  option value=ZZ/option

  option value=11/option

  option value=22/option

  option value=33/option

  option value=44/option

  option value=55/option

  option value=66/option

  option value=77/option

  option value=88/option

  option value=99/option

  option value=00/option

 /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/tdtd width=123 valign=middleform action=
 method=getDecade select name=var size=1

  option value=19501950s/option

  option value=19601960s/option

  option value=19701970s/option

  option value=19801980s/option

  option value=19901990s/option

  option value=20002000s/option
   /selectinput type=image class=inputbutton
 src=img/input.jpg alt= width=15 height=15
 /form/td
   /tr
 /table




 Adjusting the margin on the table, as you suggested, isn't going to
 help as each column has a separate problem. The problem is the form
 elements specifically.

 Jeremy


 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 ok, I think you need:

 td {display: line;}body {
   margin-top: 0px;
   margin-left: 0px;
   margin-right: 0px;
 }

 td

 ul
 lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
 lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
 /ul
 /td

 You may need to do something like this to get it to work.



 Andrew
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In the screenshot that is linked, you'll notice that the vertical
 alignment of the two dropdown menus and two input buttons is
 incorrect. They are at the right side.

 I've applied a tag style to the select tag. This isn't working. And
 there is a class style on the input buttons. Which is not working
 either.

 Float right works for horizontal alignment and that is how I've got
 the forms at right set up. It's the vertical alignment that is keeping
 me up at night.

 Jeremy

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   
 Not entirely sure what you are asking here?

 When I look at your screen print, it looks ok in IE.
 I think something like   float:right;
 is what you want??



 Andrew

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Thank you, Andrew! I'll definitely try this out.

 Another area of concern is with the right-side form elements. They are
 not aligning properly and nothing I've tried has worked.

 Any advice in solving this issue as well would be appreciated.

 Jeremy




 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 wrote:
 


   
 Not being a big knowledge man of css but I would have thought you
 
 would
 
 need, ul and li in there?
 ul
 lia href=index.phpHome/a/li
 lia href=complete.phpBrowse All Titles/a/li
 /ul

 and in your css have something like
 #nav ul {
  margin-left: 2em;
  padding-left: 0;
  color: #00;
 }

 Andrew

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 
 I'm new to CSS. But I need to position four form elements in a
   
 very
 
 thin nav bar. Here is my HTML code:

  div id=nav
   div id=nav_left
  a href=index.phpHome/a |a href=complete.php
 Browse All Titles/a | a href=author.phpAbout
   
 Author/a/div
 
  div id=bookmarktable width=307 border=0
 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
  tr
  td width=64 valign=middleBrowse by/td
 td width=113 valign=middleform action= method=get
  Title
  select name=var size=1

  option value=AA/option

  option value=BB/option

  option value=CC/option

  option value=EE/option

  option value=FF/option

  option value=GG/option

  option value=HH/option

  option value=II/option

  option value=JJ/option

  option value=KK/option

  option value=LL/option

  option value=MM/option

  option value=NN/option

  option value=OO/option

  option value=PP/option

  option value=QQ/option

  option value=RR/option

  option value=SS/option

  option value=TT/option

  option

Re: [css-d] Navigation bar

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Doades
Hello all...

I could not help picking up o a bit about IE7, I recently attempted a 
sidebar for my website, and all now works (to some extent) but for IE7.

I was just wondering what is with IE7, IE6 used to be fine, it always 
worked, same with FF but why is 7 casing so many problems?

Andrew

Alan Gresley wrote:
 Alan K Baker wrote:
   
 Hi all.

 I'm in the process of converting an old frames/tables/JavaScript site to all 
 CSS.
 


 There many billions of pages needing the same treatment. Please take a 
 look at this screen shot.

 http://css-class.com/test/images/email-client.png

 The forth line down run 5 times a wide as my screen. For me to reply to 
 you I first have to edit you message but not the simple way. My email 
 client will wrap my replies at 72 characters length automatically. 
 Discussion about Email clients are off-topic on this list but since your 
 messages are very hard to reply to I have to mentioned them. Here is a 
 good one to use.

 http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/


   
 It can be found at: http://www.webbwize.co.uk/Test_Area/TEP/index.html

 I am looking for a slightly more 'elegant' way of vertically centering text
 


 Is this the fixed navigation where the lower parts are hidden outside 
 the viewpoint. My screen is on 800px high. Is this navigation within frames?


   
 [snip] to save you wading through the dreaded frames maze.
 


 Remove the frames as it make it near impossible for anyone to help.


   
 At present my text is centered by [ .oneline a ] and [ .twolines a ].
 


 OK, where do you mention that .oneline and .towlines is part of the 
 navigation. Some on this list are good detectives since. We have to use 
 our web developers toolbar [1] outline current element feature to 
 locate these classes.


   
 I've also just noticed a problem in all browsers except IE7.
 


 That make sense. :-)


   I've probably missed something obvious!!


 Yes. When I check you source code all I see is.

 frameset
   frame
   frame
 base
 /frameset

 noframes
 If you are reading this text, your browser is frames challenged.
 More up to date browsers are readily available.
 /noframes


 The good browsers are not framed challenged. They just don't use MS 
 propriety garbage code.


   
 Help would be much appreciated.

 Regards, 
  
 Alan.
  
 www.theatreorgans.co.uk
 


 So you have to make it easy. :-)

 Sometimes it is easier just to have un-style text to begin with.


 [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60


 Alan

 http://css-class.com/


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Re: [css-d] Navigation bar

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Doades
I do see what you are saying, but since I went to IE7 I have had no end 
of problem why trying to develop, also a pain was moving to IE7 from IE6 
when developing :)

But why do IE and FF seem to have a constant fighting battle for developers?
This is what I can't get, I can develop something that looks grate in FF 
but  in IE, or vice versa.

But some good points in your email :)

Andrew

Alan K Baker wrote:
 Andrew.

 In the case of my [ :active ] problem, I believe that none of the browsers is 
 actually at fault, and IE7 does actually do what I want and behaves in a way 
 I'd logically expect, which is probably quite unusual for IE7. :-)
 It's simply a minor discrepancy in implementation between browsers - no big 
 deal.

 I have far more problems with IE6 than all the other browsers! IE7 is a pussy 
 cat, compared to IE6. g

 In the case of my vertical spacing on text, this is just my wish to improve 
 my code. It's not a browser fault at all.

 Regards, 
  
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   - Original Message - 
   From: Andrew Doades 
   To: Alan Gresley 
   Cc: Alan K Baker ; css-d 
   Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:48 AM
   Subject: Re: [css-d] Navigation bar


   Hello all...

   I could not help picking up on a bit about IE7, I recently attempted a 
   sidebar for my website, and all now works (to some extent) but for IE7.

   I was just wondering what is with IE7, IE6 used to be fine, it always 
   worked, same with FF but why is 7 casing so many problems?

   Andrew

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Re: [css-d] Bullet list without paragraph break

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Doades
remove the ul from start and end!

This will give you just the bullet points!

Andrew

The Color Guard wrote:
 Hi, I'm new to CSS and new to the list. I just started going through the 
 exercises in Meyer's book, and they're great -- I am catching on.
 Meanwhile, I ran across a problem which might be basic html; I hope y'all 
 don't mind. (Maybe it could be solved with CSS.) 
 I want to make a bulleted list, but without the paragraph break before and 
 after the list. Is this possible? This is the code I found:
  ul
  liFirst item
  liSecond item
  liThird item
  /ul
 It automatically includes a paragraph break, frustratingly.

 Also -- is there a way to post questions on the css-discuss site? I don't 
 find any log in or post buttons. Does this mainly work as a mailing list, 
 rather than a bulletin board?

 Thank you,
 Suzi


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Re: [css-d] Bullet list without paragraph break

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Doades
perhaps but it does work does it not?!

Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
 On 4/6/08, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 remove the ul from start and end!

 This will give you just the bullet points!

 Andrew

 

 That's semanticaly incorrect,
 just set padding and margin to 0 and that should fix it.

 ul {
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0; }

 also, it should be:

 ul
  liFirst item /li
  liSecond item /li
  liThird item /li
  /ul

 Regards,

   
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Re: [css-d] Bullet list without paragraph break

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Doades
Yes, I understand it may not be the correct way to go about this 
problem, but it was a simple solution that with almost every modern 
browser will work.

The other thing was that the inline control will line these links up in 
a well line, what if he wants them in a sidebar format?

Andrew

Jim Nannery wrote:
 Afternoon Andrew

 You wrote:

 perhaps but it does work does it not?!

 Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
 On 4/6/08, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 remove the ul from start and end!

 This will give you just the bullet points!

 Andrew



 That's semanticaly incorrect,
 just set padding and margin to 0 and that should fix it.

 ul {
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0; }

 also, it should be:

 ul
  liFirst item /li
  liSecond item /li
  liThird item /li
  /ul

 Regards,


 Semantics aside, it's malformed xHTML and will cause browsers to use 
 error correction to render the code This may or may not * work * 
 now or perhaps in the future

 It is always best to use properly formed xHTML with CSS To suggest 
 malformed code is a fools errand and should, IMO, not be suggested as 
 a fix. As Jim Davis suggested [1] display:inline is probably what is 
 needed for the O.P. to accomplish her goal.

 Jim Nannery
 www.gotbeebar.com

 [1]  http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal01.htm
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Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems

2008-04-04 Thread Andrew Doades
OK, Cheers I will remove all the table bit from around my layout and 
the just just the css to make the layout?

Cheers,
Andrew

Alan K Baker wrote:
 Sorry, I haven't time to wade through entire stylesheets tonight, but 
 assuming that your stylesheets don't do anything 'clever' with table 
 definitions, it looks as if your divs are wrapped by table/table tags 
 which AFAIK would follow each other in the HTML 'flow', so each table will 
 appear below the last regardless of the fact that you have no TRs and TDs 
 defined. This would invalidate your 'box model' flow styling.

 I suggest dumping all TABLE definitions unless you are truly using a table 
 def for a real table, and use CSS to do all of your placement.

 Regards,

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   - Original Message - 
   From: Andrew Doades 
   To: Alan K Baker 
   Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
   Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:34 PM
   Subject: Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems


   In my css file:

   #sidebar {
   float:left;
   width:165px;
   border: 3px solid #aaa;
   background-color: #eee;
   margin:2px;
   padding: 1em;
   }

   #content-main {
 float:none;
 width:100%;
   }

   then in my template I just put that links and that in a div id=sidebar
   and a content-main one for content

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[css-d] FF and IE problems

2008-04-03 Thread Andrew Doades
On my site I have a sidebar that is set to float left, and then content 
that is set to float none.

This works and looks fine in FireFox but in IE the content slips below 
the sidebar?

I have tried a number of different css moves and html moves but keeps 
resulting in the same problem

please help,
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Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems

2008-04-03 Thread Andrew Doades
Nope, I removed that width control from the css but still IE is refusing 
to show it correctly, I did use FireBug in FireFox to check this out and 
FireBug seems to agree that it's ok!

Is this an  IE problem, like the Microsoft way to be a pain, or am I 
missing something!?

Alan Gresley wrote:
 Andrew Doades wrote:
   
 In my css file:

 #sidebar {
 float:left;
 width:165px;
 border: 3px solid #aaa;
 background-color: #eee;
 margin:2px;
 padding: 1em;
 }

 #content-main {
   float:none;
   width:100%;
 }

 then in my template I just put that links and that in a div id=sidebar
 and a content-main one for content
 


 As Alan Baker said we need to see some working code to truly be correct. 
 This css.

 #content-main {
   float:none;
   width:100%; /* hasLayout trigger */
 }

 Is simply.

 #content-main {}

 Since a div is always 100% of it containing block [1] when in normal 
 flow [2]. What you are seeing in IE5, IE6 or IE7 is I think the affects 
 of hasLayout [3]. Remove the width:100% from #content-main and IE should 
 behave itself.


 [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#containing-block
 [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting
 [3] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html


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Re: [css-d] FF and IE problems

2008-04-03 Thread Andrew Doades
Nope, I removed that width control from the css but still IE is refusing 
to show it correctly, I did use FireBug in FireFox to check this out and 
FireBug seems to agree that it's ok!

Is this an  IE problem, like the Microsoft way to be a pain, or am I 
missing something!?

BTW, Alan when I send mail to you, I get it bounced back with some 
random error!

Alan Gresley wrote:
 Andrew Doades wrote:
   
 In my css file:

 #sidebar {
 float:left;
 width:165px;
 border: 3px solid #aaa;
 background-color: #eee;
 margin:2px;
 padding: 1em;
 }

 #content-main {
   float:none;
   width:100%;
 }

 then in my template I just put that links and that in a div id=sidebar
 and a content-main one for content
 


 As Alan Baker said we need to see some working code to truly be correct. 
 This css.

 #content-main {
   float:none;
   width:100%; /* hasLayout trigger */
 }

 Is simply.

 #content-main {}

 Since a div is always 100% of it containing block [1] when in normal 
 flow [2]. What you are seeing in IE5, IE6 or IE7 is I think the affects 
 of hasLayout [3]. Remove the width:100% from #content-main and IE should 
 behave itself.


 [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#containing-block
 [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting
 [3] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html


 Alan

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[css-d] Major FF and Safari problems

2008-03-21 Thread Andrew Doades
Hi all,

I have been working on a site, and the person I am working with very 
kindly asked me to check this in FireFox...

Sadly the main content get shoved to the bottom, can someone please have 
a look for me and see if they can make sense of what's going on?
URL: www.weplan.co.uk
user: trial
pass: demo
( Please don't abuse this!! )

Thanks a huge amount!!!
Andrew
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Re: [css-d] Major FF and Safari problems

2008-03-21 Thread Andrew Doades
ok, now...

I added float: left;  into my sidebar style code and now looks fine in 
ff but the original problem is now in IE not FF?!

Karl Hardisty wrote:
 On 22/03/2008, at 8:10 AM, Andrew Doades wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have been working on a site, and the person I am working with very
 kindly asked me to check this in FireFox...

 Sadly the main content get shoved to the bottom, can someone please have
 a look for me and see if they can make sense of what's going on?
 URL: www.weplan.co.uk
 user: trial
 pass: demo
 ( Please don't abuse this!! )

 Thanks a huge amount!!!
 Andrew
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 Andrew,

 you may want to run the code through validation.  I took a quick look  
 and firstly noticed that the end tags for the table and HTML were  
 both missing, and then validated it, and there are numerous layout  
 errors (missing tags, etc).  While IE will often overlook these,  
 Gecko and WebKit are stricter with standards, and will show up badly  
 formed code more often.

 The first thing to do when errors such as this occur is to ensure  
 that the code is well formed, and errors aren't caused by missing  
 tags etc.

 Karl

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Re: [css-d] problems with background image, borders

2008-03-15 Thread Andrew Doades
As a point for you, it looks find in IE6 and IE7

Andrew

Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
 Hello there,

 I'm making a website and I have two big problems with cross compatibility,
 haven't tested on IE7, site developed for FF, so in FF everything looks as
 it should.
 Made and tested on Ubuntu 7.10.

 1. background image looks fine on FF but looks totally wrong on Opera
 9.5and IE6, don't know what's wrong
 2. border around navigation dissapears, and it doesn't pick up background
 color, as it does on Opera and FF.

 address: http://sunlust.net/test4

 css: http://sunlust.net/test4/css/master.css

 If you notice any other weird behaviors, please let me know, I'm not getting
 paid for this project but I want to get it right since it's for a close
 friend.
 Much appreciated,

 Regards

   
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Re: [css-d] site check please..

2007-11-25 Thread Andrew Doades
Looks, good, Some of the image boxes dropped a little down the page in 
Safari on Windows xp for me! but in FireFox and IE7 all looks good!

Rob freeman wrote:
 Hello everyone, I have been working on a little
 site for some friends which I have just uploaded.
 Could anyone please check the site in older browsers
 For any problems (its not complete).

 I have workied in OSX running firefox and safari.

 http://www.precociouscollective.com/artists.html

 this page has a few floats, which Im a little worried about
 in older browsers.

 Thanks.

   
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Re: [css-d] update, can you check this site now

2007-11-25 Thread Andrew Doades
I had a look trough all of the pages on the first post, and all but the 
artist one looks good!

Rob freeman wrote:
 http://www.precociouscollective.com/

   
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[css-d] CSS Slide Show

2007-10-13 Thread Andrew Doades
I am working on a site, where I need a set up small images to one side, 
or bottom, and when the views slick on the small images there is a 
larger image with text about the image, I have read that this can be 
done in CSS, but I can't find anywhere that I can get help for doing this.

Cheers,
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Re: [css-d] CSS Slide Show

2007-10-13 Thread Andrew Doades


David Laakso wrote:
 Andrew Doades wrote:
   
 This is the kind of thing I am looking for, but I need  some help with 
 the coding, that is the main problem!

 David Laakso wrote:
 
 Andrew Doades wrote:
  
   
 I am working on a site, where I need a set up small images to one 
 side, or bottom, and when the views slick on the small images there 
 is a larger image with text about the image, I have read that this 
 can be done in CSS, but I can't find anywhere that I can get help 
 for doing this.

 Cheers,
 Andrew
   
 
 Generally, behavior is best left to another technology-- but this is 
 one of the few of such CSS image galleries of merit:
 http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/gallery/photo_gallery.asp#null

 There are other CSS galleries but most inevitably fail at user 
 friendliness, accessibility, and keyboard functionality.

 A friend of the list (s) shared a delightful image gallery with me 
 that might meet your need but I am not sure it is ready for release.

 Best,

 ~dL

   
   



 Andrew,

 Put your page on a public server and someone on the list will lend a 
 hand with whater the coding difficulty may be.

 Regards,

 ~dL

 PS On this list, for a number of reasons, please write /below/ those to 
 whom you reply; /and/ hit reply all when sending.







   
Cheers, David

Cheers for the point about replying!
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[css-d] css and frames

2007-09-23 Thread Andrew Doades
Hello, I have been working a a website the needs a menu, I have managed 
to get my menu and working with css, but the main page is using frames, 
and the menu is listed down the left frame (on the left side) but some 
text is long in the buttons, is there a way I can shrink the buttons or 
allow the buttons/ menu to fix to the text??

BTW, I am new to css.

Cheers,
Andrew
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