[css-d] Any order columns with liquid layout

2010-06-17 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hello everybody,

I've been playing around a little with  negative margins to show two or
three columns in different order they are in the HTML code.   I've used
the information on a few articles and examples on positioniseverything,
LayoutGala, A list apart, Meyer's web, etc.  In all cases, to calculate
the appropriate negative margins, widths need to be fixed,  as far as I
have understood from the examples and articles.

What I'm trying to achieve is to show the navigation (fixed with on em)
at the left of  the main section (I'd like it to be liquid, with a max-
and a min-width on em), while it actually comes after it on the code:

bodysection id=main.../section
navul.../ul/nav/body

Is there any method described somewhere which would allow to do that?
Or has somebody tried/succeeded doing something like that, please?
Three columns instead of two, of course, would be even better.  :-)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Ángel

P.S.: I'm using HTML5 and CSS3 and, for this design, I don't care about
IE (any version) or old browsers.  I'm just looking for the best simple
way to achieve the described result.

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Re: [css-d] Any order columns with liquid layout

2010-06-17 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hello Thierry,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:33:13AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 
 I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to achieve. But if you have a
 navigation bar sized in EMs and want to style it with a min/max-width in EMs
 it won't work. Because the nav will never reach the min/max values.

I don't.  I want a navigation bar with fixed width (let say 10em)
which flotes left to the main section (which is the one I want to have
min/max widths).  The thing is that I want the main section (not the
nav bar) to adapt to the window width, but only to a certain max width
(I do not want it to be wider than let say 30em, to make it easy to
read).

Thank you and regards,
Ángel

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Re: [css-d] Any order columns with liquid layout

2010-06-17 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hello David,

Thank you for your answer.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:05:25PM -0400, David Laakso wrote:
 
 This is 38em min/960px max.

It's the main content what I'm wondering if it would be possible to
make it flexible between let say 20em and 40 em.  I would like the
other columns to stay fixed (10em) and only main to adapt between the
limits.

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/3.html

I'm trying to not use percentages, but em, since I don't want the
content to spread too much when the window is large.  I want it to
have certain flexibility, but not through the point were the main
content has more than about 40em width (when reading become very
uncomfortable).

Again thank you, and regards,
Ángel

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Re: [css-d] Any order columns with liquid layout

2010-06-17 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hello Thierry,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 09:47:55AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 
 I think this should work *exactly* like you want:
 
 http://www.ez-css.org/test/dare.html

Not really.  What I want is closer to   http://mendel.ugr.es/~ama/es/
but with the main section flexible between limits (mainly max-width).

Regards,
Ángel

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Re: [css-d] general check :: noah learner

2009-07-23 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:11:53PM -0400, David Laakso wrote:
 BTW, red on green may be difficult for some users, too.

Impossible to distinguish by certain types of color blind people,
actually.

Ángel
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Re: [css-d] stand-down

2009-07-23 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:11:34PM -0400, David McGlone wrote:
 Awesome, another Linux user here. I assumed just about everyone here were MS 
 users.

Why would anybody with a minimum of technical computer skills use any
MS software?

Cheers,
Ángel
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Re: [css-d] CSS replacement for table layouts

2008-12-11 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:10:45PM -0700, Geoff Hoffman wrote:
 Sorry for the long post, but I've been thinking about this for over a
 year now, and it's been asked many times before without a viable answer
 that is actually reliably workable in a production environment. 
 
 The bottom line is, I still have to resort to using tables for
 grid-based layouts, because I have had no luck making div tags work in
 certain circumstances.
 
 Particularly I am referring to 3x3 grid layouts where I need to have
 repeating backgrounds in a tic-tac-toe type of a setup:

Doesn't something as extremely simple and so fast to code as this
example I've just put together meet that?

http://mendel.ugr.es/~ama/tmp/3x3.html

Regards,
Ángel


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Re: [css-d] CSS replacement for table layouts

2008-12-11 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hi Éric, everybody,

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:53:49AM +0100, Éric Vesque wrote:
 Your solution seems to work only in Opera, other browsers don't like ids 
 begining by numbers.

It was such a quick thing that I didn't bother to check it out in any
other browser than the one I use most of the time while browsing with
graphics (I also use Elinks for just text browsing :-).

 I have rewritten your page with some more stuff in order to have valid html 
 (the div#conteneur has nothing to do with validation).
 You may see it at http://www.banturle.com/divers/grille3x3.html

Thanks for that.  But what have you added the div for?  ul is already
an html element one can style with CSS.

Cheers,
Ángel


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Re: [css-d] CSS replacement for table layouts

2008-12-11 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:20:10PM -0800, David Hucklesby wrote:
 Your solution is very close, Angel. Some very minor tweaks got it working
 this end in all my browsers -

As I already said, it was a couple of minutes typing to just show that
what the OP claimed he was trying for years (even asking on different
fora and so on) was as simple as a floated list.
 Nice demo.

Thanks.  Just wanted to show how easy the OP requirements could be meet
on a few lines of code.  That's all.

 It's unfortunate, but IE is so prevalent we do need to test
 with that browser -- even IE 5 is important, as recent IE versions revert
 to IE 5.5 rendering in quirks mode. If a visitor comes via the Google
 cached version, they get quirks in any IE version. Yikes!

I don't care about IE unless I get paid for it ;-) and so, of course,
I was not going to try to get the 3x3 demonstration working on it (I
even have to remote log to a W2k3 server to fire up IE, which I only
do at the end of all my web developments just to see if the site looks
sufficiently good there (of course I usually don't try to get web
sites to look identical in web browsers and InfernalEngine, it's
enough for me if the site is readable and doesn't look too ugly
---again, unless I get paid to fix it on IE, when I take the time to
make an special CSS loaded using condicional comments for the IE).

Cheers,
Ángel


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