Re: [css-d] New and way less than confident
Enterprises often wait a long time before upgrading browsers as part of their Current Operating Environment plans and protocols. What I have experienced over the years is that a new browser will be welcomed by the general community, but the IT departments of the (figurative) GE's, Citibank's, ATT's etc. often take months to years to authorize an update. Large corporations have policy-driven updating for their computers instead of the typical click here for updates link. So in turn, we end up with a general update acceptance, with a few 800-pound Gorillas (with all the money) holding it back. -- Morgana, Regarding the main question, for general web sites, 2.1 seems to be the norm now. Erik Meyer's book More Eric Meyer on CSS is a great book to start. It's a few years old but the clarity is excellent and the lessons are very retainable and can be applied to many daily CSS tasks. Stylin' with CSS is a good book too, which does a simple, no-frills, to-the-point instruction on building a proper, CSS-driven accessible web site. The CSS Zen Garden book is a neat design book to have and shows interesting tricks people use, but can sometimes be impractical as the Zen Garden project only involves one page of content. Bulletproof Web Design by Dan Cederholm is a great book on ensuring the site is built not to break, and to be accessible to all. Alistapart.com is a fantastic site of a-list authors giving away their secrets. and dont forget positioniseverything.net which will explain why your CSS isn't displaying correctly on certain browsers and how to fix it (ironically the site looks better with the CSS turned off, but don't let that scare you--they really know what they're explaining on that site) Hope that helps, Court Chris Ovenden wrote: On 11/29/06, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Ovenden wrote: unfortunately IE6 is likely to remain the majority browser for several years yet :-( Several years yet? IE7 is now a Microsoft recommended download, and virtually all PCs for sale post-January ship with Vista, and, inherently, IE7. The next couple of months will be very telling, but I reckon things may be about to change. A lot of arrogant developers(TM) I know are telling me I'm an idiot to still spend so much time spoon-feeding IE6, and argue that I should just tell my clients that they should be looking at things with IE7. Of course, I can't quite take this idea seriously. I really would like to ditch IE6 support, except as a degraded-but--still-functional experience, but sadly the upgrade to IE7 is not an option for most Windows users, as it only works on XP SP2 - currently standing at about 23% of web users worldwide. (And of these, how many are legitimate? IE7 also comes with the hated WGA check.) I hope I'm wrong, though. http://www.stylespread.com Gonna check that out. Thanks! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 6+7, background image leakage thru margins
Greetings, I am trying to do some fancy branding to a page and am getting 'leakage' in IE. I have posted this problem to the following URL: http://www.junklogic.com/moneymakin/temp_box.html I would like to create basically a template of these rounded-cornered 'widgets' that developers can plug their data into. It's for a data dashboard for a agentless GUI for a hardware security appliance, so accessibility issues differ a bita little extra markup is ok, and thus I am doing the divdivdivdiv thing for each rounded corner. This was 'borrowed' from Cederholm's Bulletproof Web Design book. However, I cant assign background images to the content itself as written in the book, as the content is all conditional and dynamic. in the method i wrote this up, in IE, im getting a 'leakage' in the margin-bottom. In IE7, the leakage happens on the last box listed. I can add 15 of these boxes, and all will display fine except the last one. in IE6, all boxes display this leakage. If i add a float, the leakage goes away however the width is then auto'd in mozilla, something i'd like to avoid if possible. Is there a technique i can have these default to 100% width (i'd like to avoid declaring width's and heights if possible)? I figure i'm missing a couple vital root-level rules of CSS here, so any input is greatly appreciated. thanks. -Court __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 6+7, background image leakage thru margins
Thank you! I see you've done quite a bit of studies on the rounded corners that help keep us all employed :) I am going to read your writings and try and integrate this into the app and will post my results. Thanks again for your help. -Court francky wrote: Courtney Nielsen wrote: Greetings, I am trying to do some fancy branding to a page and am getting 'leakage' in IE. I have posted this problem to the following URL: http://www.junklogic.com/moneymakin/temp_box.html I would like to create basically a template of these rounded-cornered 'widgets' that developers can plug their data into. It's for a data dashboard for a agentless GUI for a hardware security appliance, so accessibility issues differ a bita little extra markup is ok, and thus I am doing the divdivdivdiv thing for each rounded corner. This was 'borrowed' from Cederholm's Bulletproof Web Design book. However, I cant assign background images to the content itself as written in the book, as the content is all conditional and dynamic. in the method i wrote this up, in IE, im getting a 'leakage' in the margin-bottom. In IE7, the leakage happens on the last box listed. I can add 15 of these boxes, and all will display fine except the last one. in IE6, all boxes display this leakage. If i add a float, the leakage goes away however the width is then auto'd in mozilla, something i'd like to avoid if possible. Is there a technique i can have these default to 100% width (i'd like to avoid declaring width's and heights if possible)? I figure i'm missing a couple vital root-level rules of CSS here, so any input is greatly appreciated. thanks. -Court Hi Court, I must admit I didn't study your page ( the underlying Bulletproof design), and how it can be made working. Forgotten! :-) Just diving into an alternative: * Testpage http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/liquidcorners/corners-example-junklogic.htm In IE6 it is perfoming good, as it is in FF1.7 and Opera8.01. - IE7 I can't test. Success and greetings, francky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
