Re: [css-d] a png not displaying!
Ian Young wrote: Nah Sorry that doesn't make any difference. The script is designed to replace what is in the html. I don't think the problem is in the ie-fix, because if I strip everything out and just use the .flash_home div it works ok. From the head... !--[if gte IE 5.5] ![if lt IE 7] link rel=stylesheet href=./includes/ie-fix.css type=text/css / ![endif] ![endif]-- I don't use conditional comments very much, but I'm not so sure you can nest them like this... Have you tried using only the lt IE7 and taking away the gte 5.5 wrapper? - JCD __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Positioning PHP buttons
Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote:
If you go to:
http://www.choroideremia.org/new/crf_header.php
With Firefox 3.0. You get a page that I would like to see in every browser.
If you downarrow twice everything moves over and I get my Font switcher
buttons at the very top left of the screen. I am trying to move them to
underneath the curve graphic. The CSS is:
switch {
color: Black;
background-color: Silver;
display: block;
font-size: 1.8em;
text-align: center;
left: 200px;
position: absolute;
}
Any ideas on how to get my PHP buttons to align under my curve graphic?
It appears that the PHP is not wrapping the desired style in a style
tag within the head, as well as generating anonymous content within
the body itself.
Once that is rectified, then it can be best determined what in the CSS
is causing the issue.
- HP
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Re: [css-d] :: drop down menus ::
Amrinder wrote:
Hi
I am stuck with dropdown menus. They are working fine in IE-7, and firefox
and the evil IE6 doesn't render it.
Should I use javascript or CSS for this.
Here is my code:
** XHTML code **
div id=main_nav
ul id=menu
li id=nav_home class=menu_active aHome/a/li
lia href=about.htmlAbout Us/a/li
lia href=products.htmlRetail Products/a
ul
lia href=#Milk Powders/a/li
lia href=#UHT Milk/a/li
lia href=#Butter/a/li
lia href=#Cheese/a/li
lia href=#Liquid Products/a/li
lia href=#Juices/a/li
/ul
/li
lia href=ingredients.htmlDairy Ingredients/a
ul
lia href=#Milk Powder/a/li
lia href=#Whey Powder/a/li
lia href=#Milk Proteins/a/li
lia href=#Butter Fat Products/a/li
lia href=#Cheese/a/li
/ul
/li
lia href=importexport.htmlExports/Imports/a/li
li id=nav_contacta href=contact.htmlContact Us/a/li
/ul
div class=clear/div
/div
!--End main_nav--
** CSS Code **
#main_nav {
clear: both;
position: relative;
margin-top: 3px;
border: 1px solid red;
}
#menu li {
float: left;
position: relative;
}
#menu li ul {
position: absolute;
left: 0px;
top: 31px;
display: none;
background-color: #309DCF;
}
#menu a {
background: #309DCF url(../images/menubck_18.gif) scroll repeat-x left top;
}
li ul li {
background: url(../images/menubck_18.gif) repeat-x left top;
border:1px solid #fff;
}
ul li a {
display: block;
text-decoration: none;
padding: 6px 40px;
border-left-width: 1px;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-color: #FFF;
}
li li a {
padding:4px 5px 4px 37px;
width:120px;
border-left:none;
}
ul #nav_home a {
width: 30px;
border-left: none;
}
* html li a {
width:auto;
}
/* Fix IE. Hide from IE Mac \*/
* html ul li { float: left;}
* html ul li a {height:1%;}
/* End */
#menu li:hover ul, #menu li.over ul {
display:block;
}
#menu a:hover {
background-attachment: scroll;
background-image: url(../images/menuhoverbck_18.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-position: left top;
background-color: #de5a03;
}
** javascript code **
startList = function() {
if (document.alldocument.getElementById) {
navRoot = document.getElementById(nav);
for (i=0; inavRoot.childNodes.length; i++) {
node = navRoot.childNodes[i];
if (node.nodeName==LI) {
node.onmouseover=function() {
this.className+= over;
}
node.onmouseout=function() {
this.className=this.className.replace( over, );
}
}
}
}
}
window.onload=startList;
You need to change you main ul id to nav or change the JS navroot
variable declaration line to read:
navRoot = document.getElementById(menu);
This will allow the JavaScript to work properly. As it stands, the
script can't target the proper DOM node.
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Re: [css-d] CSS Drop-Down in IE6?
Victor Subervi wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Highpowered [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE6's lack of multi-elemental :hover support makes Javascript a necessity for any mouseover-triggered menu to work the same as it does in 7. Apologies if I am misinterpreting your question. That´s what I thought, but the above-mentioned page *does* work in IE6 w/o JS! Victor You're right. I usually don't delve too deeply into the MS proprietary stuff like .htc files, so I hadn't even thought about that. It does make sense to use a proprietary MS solution to a strictly MS problem. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Star-html hack in IE7
Cristian Palmas wrote: Hi, What are the problems with the star hack into IE7? Must I use conditional comments or there are other ways? I hope so... Thanks in advance. For IE7 specifically, the star HTML hack can still be done, but with a + symbol, as in * + html. - HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] what's the best way to add space between elements?
vincent pollard wrote: i have a page that looks a bit like this: hr / asp:Label ID=Label1 runat=server Font-Bold=True Text=Name/asp: Label asp:TextBox ID=tb runat=server Width=200px/asp:TextBox asp:Label ID=Label2 runat=server Font-Bold=True Text=No./asp: Label asp:TextBox ID=tb2 runat=server Width=200px/asp:TextBox br /br / asp:Label ID=Label3 runat=server Font-Bold=True Text=Name 2/asp: Label asp:TextBox ID=tb3 runat=server Width=200px/asp:TextBox asp:Label ID=Label4 runat=server Font-Bold=True Text=No. 2/asp: Label asp:TextBox ID=tb4 runat=server Width=200px/asp:TextBox so, i have no DIV that i could add padding or margin to as i normally would. should i add an empty p tag? an empty div? what would you guys recommend? .NET Server Controls - guaranteed to make the lives of all front end coders more interesting. .NET server controls tend to generate a lot of HTML code that would definitely not be our first choice. Lots of tables, lots of spans. In some controls, there is a Layout property which allows you to select table or flow, with flow wrapping things in spans. But other than that, you have to view the generated source to see how it renders. Someone who knows the ins and outs of programming could change .NET's behavior to output different tags, but until then, you have to work with what it gives you. Using content buckets, i.e. ID'd divs to delimit specific areas of the page and assign properties is a good way to go. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Inline CSS with TD
David Dorward wrote:
On 26/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to embed all the CSS from below into the style= attribute of the
table HTML:
.settings td {border:1px solid #696969;}
Shame, it isn't possible.
CSS goes in one of two places.
(1) In a style sheet as full CSS
(2) In a style attribute as the contents of a declaration block
There is no way to use selectors except in a real stylesheet.
He's right on that. If neither of these two methods are available, you
have to use inline styles on each td to which you want those properties
applied.
I'm a bit Joan Crawford-ish when it comes to inline styles: No! Inline
Styles! Ever!
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Re: [css-d] IE6 woes w/ Suckerfish, absolute positioning, weird margins
Lisa Onizuka wrote: So, I complete redid this site that was all nasty nested tables and spacer images, etc...to a pretty clean css layout. Of course, now the client (a design agency who has not yet shown the redo to their client) wants to hold on to wacky remnants like photos and little corner points and that are also links, etc...so I added in those extra links. They are currently laid over bg images with absolute positioning, but that makes my suckerfish dropdowns in ie6 go behind the boxes. The reason they are bg images was because I had layout issues in safari if I left them as linked images that were right or left aligned (two are left, one is right). I would love to feed ie6 some conditional comments, but I am not sure what style to put in there. I tried the z-index:-1 trick and the boxes just disappeared in ie6. http://agencycreativetest.com In IE6 there is also something pushing the layout out about 5px on the right... It would validate if not for flash stuff left in noscript for older browsers. Argg. Help is certainly appreciated...I feel like I'm just going in circles now. Try giving ul#nav a position:relative declaration. Good luck! - HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Float list items
Thierry Koblentz wrote: It is about semantic markup, we should use HTML elements for the information they convey, not for how they display. Yes, it's all about semantic markup - the very base for conscious web development. However, a general problem here on css-d is that semantics is pretty much off-topic - unless (maybe if) the OP supply something that is so weak on markup level that it simply can't be (visually) solved with CSS. I see your point Georg, but imho semantics is on-topic when choices involve different type of hooks. For example nested elements (spans within list items) vs. siblings (dt/dd pairs) I'm inclined to agree that the subject of semantic HTML is on point in this forum. Semantic HTML is absolutely essential to taking full advantage of what CSS offers us as web developers. CSS by itself can do nothing, and the power of what it CAN do is directly proportional to the quality of the HTML code to which it is applied. Semantic use of HTML elements gives us the best method to build pages, indeed whole sites, that are flexible, accessible, easier to maintain, portable, modular, and lean, delivering pages that load fast, minimize server overhead, and are easier for search engines to index and classify properly. I'll grant that web standards are not a law, and designers are still free to base their layouts in tables if they so choose. Even in 2008, the arguments are still made in support of non-semantic table-based layout techniques (among other less-than-optimal coding practices), usually based on expediency in building pages or because CSS implementation proved difficult. It may surprise some newbies to know that most, if not all, advanced CSS practicioners have had occassion during their careers to use the same suboptimal techniques that we try to dissuade anyone from using today. We have also found CSS to be rather difficult at times. This forum, more than any place on the face of the Earth, is a testament to that fact. Yet, those who have kept the faith and worked to internalize and solidify their understanding of the Semantic HTML/CSS/DOM triumvirate have been able to forge great advances if not create a completely new model of web development - one that recognizes the critical value of the unseen structure of the front end, or as Theodore Roethke wrote: What shakes the eye but the invisible? Troubles in CSS can frequently be traced to suboptimal HTML structure. Semantics are a principle of creating optimal HTML structure. Thus, as its catalyst, semantic HTML goes hand-in-hand with CSS in any discussion thereof. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 ordered list woes
Lorin Rivers wrote: I've gotten pretty good at figuring these out on my own, in fact generally have learned how to code cross-browser out of the gate, but this is baffling me. In not IE6, the ordered lists in the sidebar appear as designed, white background, orange border around the whole div, orange numbers, and so forth. In IE6, the numbers are missing and the border is around each block level element inside the div. http://onespot.com/test/seeitwork.html Clues? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ Try adjusting the margin-left of the li tags. IE in general has issues with numbers and bullets seeming to disappear for no apparent reason. Good luck. -HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] form/fieldset alignment in IE
Ray Leventhal wrote: Hi all, Once again, our problem child is IE. The page at: http://www.cprtools.net/reg/regform1.php looks and performs as expected in Opera, FF2, Webkit28233 (Win, MacOS 10.5). IE7, is moving the topmost fieldset to the right edge of the viewport, leaving the 2nd fieldset where it belongs. IE6 (WinXPSP2) is doing much the same as it's older sister, but leaving some space to the right of the fieldset as compared to the viewport edge. I'm feeing first E.Meyer's reset.css (http://www.cprtools.net/reg/reset.css), then styling with http://www.cprtools.net/reg/style.css after. Any pointers are, as usual, greatly appreciated. Kind regards, -Ray For IE 6, try assigning a fixed width (try 800px) to your form#regform as well as text-align:left and margin: 0 auto .Change your fieldset widths to auto, and see if that doesn't help get you a little closer to what you're looking to do. -HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Columns? A Theoretical Question
Reese wrote: I'm faced with an issue I worked around once before, it presents again with a new face so I'd like to find an ultimate cure, not make do with the cheesy work-around. I need a div container with div-class items that auto-fill left or right. Such that: Item1 seeks top-left position(possibly unique ID but this should be a source code issue - if it's at the top of the stack then it is at the top of the stack), Item2 fills a right position only if the left is non-empty, Item3 fills a right position only if the left is non-empty, Item4 fills a right position only if the left is non-empty, etc. The goal is left-to right recursive, in rows. Below, a crude ascii graphic. I've been through the CSS so many times and changed so many things, I'm getting lost and I'd like to start over. What can I do, to make item elements auto-fill in rows starting from top-left? Reese --/ |Logo| Header content area/ |Area|/ |-/ |Left| --- - / |Nav | | Item 1 || Item 2 |/ |Menu| | |||/ |Item| | |||/ |Area| | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || --- -|/ || | Item3|| Item 4 |/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || --- -|/ || | Item 5 || Item 6 |/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ || | |||/ ctrl^v Have you tried using a ul to contain each Item as an li, and assigning definite dimensions to the lis and floating them left, or assigning display:inline to the lis? With each Item/li in either case, they will flow like that. Starting with that in mind, you could take it further, and I'm thinking that what you want is a bit more complicated, and I've oversimplified or not understood what you're asking. I apologize for that if I have done that. -HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] hand coders vs wsywig coders...I had no idea
I believe that using a WYSIWY(M)G editor before learning how to hand code is like learning to use a calculator before learning arithmetic. I like to use Dreamweaver for its site organization tools and its source formatting, as this helps to streamline my workflow. There are other tools I like as well for this purpose, and I have made it my business to become familiar with all of them so that I can adapt to any particular company's preferred editing environment. That being said, I never leave home without Firefox with the Web Developer and Firebug extensions. This trio has been my main development tool of choice for quite some time. When asked during a job interview, I always say that this is what I use primarily to edit for the front end. All in all, it should be your knowledge, ability, and talent that get you a job, and your personal editing environment preference should be secondary to that. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE Problem with Positioning
Lyn Willaims wrote: Hi, The following page I created has problems in Internet Explorer. The header of the web page shifts right but works fine in all other browsers. I can't find a bug fix, does anybody have any suggestions? The url is: www.theasacademy.co.uk Have you tried changing the text-align:center declared in #wrapper to text-align:left? - HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Floated definition list, markup order vs. display
Timothy Kelty wrote:
I'm trying to create a definition list with floated dts and dds...see
example here:http://geniuscar.com/tests/def-list-float.html
Essentially, I want preserve this markup:
dl class=product
dt class=titleTitle of product/dt
dd class=subtitlesubtitle of product/dd
dd class=physical8 x 6 x 1/dd
dd class=price$225/dd
dd class=image
pThis is supposed to float left all the way at the top/p
/dd
/dl
I want the dd class=image block to float left all the way at the top,
with the dt and the rest of the dds lined up on the right.
So I thought the following would work, but it doesn't:
dl.product dd,
dl.product dt{
float:left;
width: 300px;
margin-left: 300px;
}
dl.product dd.image{
float:left;
width: 250px;
margin-left: -600px;
background: #ff;
}
The dd class=image block goes to the left, but only gets pushed up one
element, so it sits alongside dd class=price, but it should be alongside
the dt. So if I just had a dt and one dd I could do this, but I don't
understand why the same thing doesn't work if there are multiple elements
there. Can anyone explain to me why this doesn't work and how I should go
about it?
Have you tried using a negative top margin value on dd.image?
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Re: [css-d] IE6 and 7 Bullet Positioning
Tessa Harmon wrote: What is the best way to control the positioning of image bullets in IE6 and 7? They are rendered higher and further to the right than they should be. I have tried the background-image and padding solution, but it made the bullets render in the center of the li. Background positioning did not seem to affect it. It would be ideal to keep it all in the CSS, of course. My sample page is at http://www.bossmanmedia.com/ie6/group-center-form.html Try adjusting the margin-left property of the lis in question. I have really been feeling your pain on this issue lately! -HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] A somewhat unusual template - to have ability to expand horizontally
Kim Jordan wrote: Um, has anyone got any help for me? Am I asking the question incorrectly? Breaking List protocol? Doing something else wrong? Looks like an IE6 Guillotine Bug See: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html for a more in-depth explanation. That generated markup is painful to look at, I feel for you :-) -HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Centering multiple floated blocks
Michael ORourke wrote: Hello all, I have a container holding 6 floated divs, each containing an image and a few lines of text. My first goal was to be able to center all the floats so they take up all the space in the containing div which I think I accomplished. The test page is here: http://www.basalweb.com/test/dltest3.html. The problem I have now is that the number of those floated divs won't be constant. There will be anywhere from 1-6. Is there any way to have them always display centered in the containing div without editing the width in the css or do I have to resort to JS for this? The floated divs don't necessarily have to take up the entire space, it's more important that they're centered. This is an interesting thing to try. I think the key is to create an inner wrapper div to contain the individual blocks, and from there, I got thrown for a loop trying to decide on whether to go with a width of auto to allow it to expand according to the cumulative widths of the item blocks OR give it a width that would expand to the overall containing block and attempt to pad the inside left and right. If I wasn't at work right now, I'd explore it further. Good question!! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] question about style inheritance
Josh Ghiloni wrote:
Hi All.
I have a bit of code that, for example, looks like this:
style type=text/css
div { color: blue }
div[dir=rtl] { color: red }
/style
div dir=rtl
hi!
divbye!/div
/div
As I somewhat expected, the outer (hi!) text rendered red, whereas the
inner child is rendering blue. Is there a way I can define my styles
such that div[dir=rtl] and any children (at any level and whose dir
is not explicitly ltr) all match the same style? Alternatively, is
it bad form to not explicitly set the dir attribute on the divs inside
a div whose dir attribute is rtl?
Thanks a lot!
If your question is how can it arrange the styles so that what's inside
of the div with [dir=rtl] will inherit its styles, there are
different approaches to this depending on how your document and CSS
styles are structured.
In the example you gave, if you were to declare div[dir='rtl'] div,
that would mean all divs that are a descendent of a div with the
attribute dir=rtl will have that property. Of course, you could always
use the down and dirty method by using the universal selector, as in
div[dir='rtl'] *, which will apply to all elements descending from
div[dir=rtl] - but it's best to exercise care when using an approach
like this.
You are about to take a big step forward with your skills now that you
are try to grasp one of the most essential concepts in CSS, namely
inheritance and specificity. There are many great resources for study,
and great tools to help you figure out how to target your styles. Start
with
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200509/css_21_selectors_part_1/ ,
which is a very good article that will help clarify many things.
The deeper your understanding of inheritance, specificity, and the Box
Model, the greater your skills will become. Keep at it!
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Re: [css-d] Alignment issues in FF
Jeralyn Merideth wrote:
I just started this project and already I'm having alignment issues. Thing
is, everything looks fine, so far, in IE 5.5 6, it's FF i'm having a
problem with. Can someone look at my code and help me figure this out?
Thanks in advance!
http://www.5pts-interactive.com/projects/DHSS/
Jeralyn Merideth - Owner
To continue Peter's thought...
add this declaration to your CSS:
#wrapper#masthead {
margin:90px 0pt auto;
}
...and see if that helps fix the issue in Firefox.
-Jason
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Re: [css-d] Too many ids in IE causing a drop?
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: I've inherited a nightmare CSS project. Nearly 1800 lines of really interesting code. On this page: http://www.language-works.com/PSL/ster.htm I am having a problem with a drop of the left hand side of the page in IE -- if I remove the container stereographs altogether, it works fine in IE http://www.language-works.com/PSL/ster2.htm but no longer in Firefox. I prefer to stay with the first version, but I wonder if there is ANY way to get this to work in IE? Is this a case of too many nested divs? I've tried talking with the folks about re-writing the css but they are nervous because they say it is stable it's also almost completely unmaintainable. If you were in my shoes, what would you say? I think I can speak for everyone in saying We feel your pain and agreeing that this page has caught a case of Divitis. The XHTML markup should be revised (in the truest sense of the word) for future implementations, but here's a patch you can try right away. IE6 can get a little help in the #cntnr-cntnt declaration by applying float:left,clear:left, and zeroing out the margins to margin:0. Good luck to you dealing with the folks :-) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Ie6 and 7 *still* giving me fits when I try to make something flush - please help if you can
Scott Thigpen wrote: Okay, so after many attempts I decided to nix the fluid look because I could NOT get it to work right, so I decided with just a fixed with. All works well now, but when I try to insert a nav bar, I can't get it to push down just my logo. It works in Firefox (of course) but I can't get it to work in IE6 and 7. Any help you can throw my way would be MUCH appreciated as I am just stumped (and have a profound hatred to css) I thought a bit more about what it is you were trying to do. What you need to do is simplify your XHTML markup some, use a mixture of fixed and relative units of measurement as well as make good use of your right margins to accomplish your goal,. I think the bulk of the difficulty of implementing your initial design was that you were trying to pull off both fluid horizontal layout with vertical and horizontal centering simultaneously. It can be done, and it's cool when it works. The key is to provide a smidge of fixed width on the left side of your structure to act as an anchor point for the whole design, setting off the relatively-dimensioned elements to the right of it with a fixed margin-right value. Think of an accordion, or a bellows, and how the inner folds are fluid while the ends are rigid. Of course, the whole thing would be easier if all browsers behaved the same way, but the underlying principles remain the same. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] still more issues
Lisa G. Wilcox wrote:
I’m having the following issues with HYPERLINK
http://www.familyfirstdocs.comwww.familyfirstdocs.com
Top Navbar does not auto-align itself on browser window size changes in IE7
Unknown property behavior on line 76 in screen.css
Top Navbar color changes on hover randomly fail, and do so fairly often, in
both IE and FF
I have looked this stuff over so much, I’m crossed eyed. If someone has some
suggestions I’d love to hear them. I’m frustrated. I have tried all I can
think of.
Thanks
Lisa
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Try adding {position:relative} to #bmission.
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Re: [css-d] IE6 and 7 giving me fits. Please help?
Scott Thigpen wrote:
Hi,
I'm doing an elastic layout and it works in Safari, Firefox but of
course...IE6 and 7 don't want to play nice. Could someone be as so kind to
tell me what I'm doing wrong?
here is the site: http://www.sthig.com/photo
here is my CSS: http://www.sthig.com/photo/css/photo.css
any help would be GREATLY apprecaited!
Best
Try adding {zoom:1%} to your #footer declaration to give it the
hasLayout property. Doing that fixed it for me on IE6. IE7 (XPSP2)
didn't appear to cause any trouble for me.
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Re: [css-d] borders and padding oh my
Alex McPherson wrote: Hi there, I have a simple page which will not display properly in IE7. I tested it and tweaked it on FF2.0 and it looks the way it's intended, but then when I showed it to the boss, she was on IE7 and it looks pretty shabby. the address for it is http://www.neep.org/HPSE/css/index.html Specifically I'm less interested in fixing it (although I will eventually) but to help me learn can someone tell me exactly WHY this difference is happening? I'm not seeing any differences with WinXPSP2 IE7 and FF2.0.11 - perhaps she needs to clear her browser cache and refresh. - HP __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] (no subject)
David Terrell wrote: Hello List, Could someone please let me know why and how to fix the aberrant spacing in the top level of my nav? I don't understand where it is coming from. Could someone also help me fix the margin problem that I'm having between #left-image and #main-text? I've included a link to a screenshot pointing out my problems. I see right off that you have multiple h1 tags that share the same ID. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Class and Specificity?
Dorothy Hesson 2336 wrote:
Hello -
I am quite baffled here. I know I am totally missing something, but I
simply can't see it! Can you assist, please?
I am trying to float an image right within a #content div. When I place
the following rule in the head element within style tags, the image
floats correctly.
.floatright {
float: right;
margin: 0 0 10px 10px;
border: 1px solid #666;
}
Now, when I take the same class rule and place it within the main.css
stylesheet, the image does not see the rule.
I know this is an example of something I don't quite have fully understood.
If you have any suggestion, I'd appreciate it. Please copy me on a reply
as I am on the digest, and would love to proceed with this project soonest!
The way that CSS applies styles is interesting, but it makes sense. If
specificity is equal between two declarations, it applies the style
declaration closest to the HTML tag it is modifying. So an inline
style would be applied first, followed by any style declarations in
the page head, followed by external declarations in reverse order of
appearance in the file.
That is why your rule worked in the page head, but not in the .css
file. You would have to give the rule a higher specificity score in the
.css file by adding an id or element tag name in front of it.
For example, #id .class will take precedence over .class, and element
.class would take precedence over both of those.
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Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed
Richard Brown wrote: Hi All Getting ambitious and needing a little bit of advice. http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/ http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/wp-content/themes/dejavu/style.css The above is a three column site that has two navigational columns floated left both with fixed width objects contained in. Navigation elements in one and a gallery in another. I have tried to leave the site as flexible width. However, I found that the side columns weren't holding up because the elements contained in them were larger than the width when viewed in a small monitor. So I have added min-width: 900px; to try to prevent this happening. 22% of 900px = 198px. I have discovered that the site fails in IE 6. The columns end up merged together. I have several questions: Is it better to stick with fixed with columns when using fixed width elements please? I could always leave the content flexible. (if so has anybody got a design I could look at to understand the code needed please?) Could I set a min-width on the navigation columns, say 200px please? Do I need to add some sort of declaration to get it to work in ie 6 please? Many thanks. IE6 doesn't understand min-width, rather, its width acts like a min-width due to its additive box model implementation. Example: If you declare a width of 500px on a div while also declaring a margin:5px and padding:5px, IE6 will see that as OK 500px, plus 5px per side for margin and 5px per side for padding - I'll render that 540px wide! Hence, all the layout trouble. Ways around that are numerous, from the * html filter/hack which allows you to declare a different width for IE6 to account for its quirks, to using child selectors in a separate declaration that standards-compliant can read and IE6 can't. It depends on your situation and your preferences. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Auto-Sizing a div or span tag
Gautam Patel wrote: I am trying to enclose an img tag in a div or span wrapper; and I want the wrapper to resize automatically to the image size (i.e., I don't want to specify a hard-coded size). Using float:left or float:right, this works. But how do I manage it without a float? Your problem as I see it is that when you wrap the image and text (both of which are inline elements)in a span, which displays inline by default - it doesn't behave as you would like. The reason it appears to work when float is declared is because floating an inline element causes that inline element to display as a block element would. If you need to keep it a span, and don't want to float it but want the same type of behavior, then use display:block in the declaration instead of float:left. } __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Menu not displaying well in IE 6
Lisa Wilcox wrote:
I have a web site www.familyfirstdocs.com. In IE6 with WinXP, the scrolling
seems to be disabled on the dropdown menus. In IE 7 and on Firefox it
seems fine. When I use dreamweaver cs3 it gives me a list whitespace
bug. I try to apply the fixes it suggests, but I still have the same
issue. Below is my menu css.
#menuh ul ul
{
position:absolute;
z-index:500;
top:auto;
display:none;
padding: 1em;
margin:-1em 0 0 -1em;
width: 175px;
text-align: left;
}
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Lisa
Change the declaration to #menuh ul li ul to enable proper targeting in
the document structure.
Happy New Year!
-HP
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Re: [css-d] IE7 Bug
Brian, Try adding position:relative; to your #wrapper declaration in bleu.css. -HP Brian Jones wrote: Hi, I am experiencing a weird bug(http://www.bleusolutions.com/images/IE7%20bug.gif) with IE 7...when the page (http://www.bleusolutions.com) loads in FF and IE everything is fine...but as soon as you hover over one of the navigation links it breaks and some the .sub_teasers text flows right over to the #footer..If anyone can help me out with this, it would be great. Thanx __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 Bug
Brian, Try adding position:relative; to your #wrapper declaration in bleu.css. -HP (Apologies if this is a duplicate) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] lis get separed if abs positioned a is inside them
Giuseppe Craparotta wrote: Please open IE7 or 6 and go to: _http://www.giuseppecraparottacv.co.uk/work-web3.html y_ou see that there's a works link - an a tag displayed as a block - in each of the first 4 boxes - all li part of an ul. The a tag is absolutely positioned in the context of the li, which is relatively positioned. This styles seem to imply that in IE6 and 7 a clear grey border appears below the first 4 li's, as you can see. It is actually the page background, not a border part of my design. The band-aid approach: Applying a margin-top of -5px to li.odd and li.even seems to fix it in WinXP/IE6. For the long term: I'd recommend a bit of XHTML restructuring to make this design easier to implement across browsers. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Datagrid class
Jachin Sheehy wrote: CssClass is the attribute to use. ASP.NET will convert this to a class attribute when it renders the HTML. Jachin Sheehy http://strangepants.com On 12/2/06, Pk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to use the same style for all my datagrids. I think I need to use a class, but my code does not want to accept the word class in the asp.net datagrid tag. How can I implement this in a CSS. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ ASP.NET tags can be a bit of a trip, especially when panels, repeaters, and checkbox lists are involved. You have to anticipate the html that the controls will render, because they add an extra layer of abstraction and can disrupt the document flow as a result. You really have to make use of your contextual and decendent selector skills. You may want to style a checkbox list, for example, by applying a class via CssClass - but it renders as a table instead, throwing your style declarations for a loop. The final elements you're trying to target wind up inside of table cells, which you then must target individually. I recently worked on a project that made heavy use of rounded corner boxes and ASP.NET webcontrols, and it took eternity to get everything just right - and even then it had to depart from the designer's comp. I felt awful about that, but I learned a lot about this subject as a result. - JCD __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Help with a few minor nitpicks please...
Maxwell Balmain wrote:
Hi All,
I redid a site I am working on for an artist friend. Her art is just
darn cool and I am hoping this will help her.
The site address is at: http://maxwellbalmain.com/jordan_03dec/
index.html
The site css is at: http://maxwellbalmain.com/jordan_03dec/styles.css
Its a basic gallery site with four absolute positioned graphic
elements. The questions I have are (in no particular order):
1) Safari: when you mouse over the picture thumbnails the css
rollover effect is incomplete on the top row (only) in Apple Safari.
The other rows roll over just fine.
2 )In IE 6 the two top left absolute positioned graphics show about 5
pixels too low. I fixed this with the backslash comment hack which
moves these elements(the little bird the 2007 star) back up 5
pixels in IE. Is there a better solution than resorting to this hack?
I would like to use clean code...
3) In IE 6 I had to use another backslash comment hack to move the
news list items into correct position in the absolute positioned
wine bottle. Without the hack the list was too far left in IE 6.
4) In IE 6 the same list in the absolute positioned wine bottle will
not produce the desired underline effect when mousing over the li's.
The underline effect works on all other browsers just fine.
5) And lastly the same li's in the absolute positioned wine bottle
will show the i-beam cursor during mouse overs in all browsers. Why?
All other links and hot elements show the standard default hand
cursor during mouse overs.
Thanks in advance to all who can shed some light on these annoying
questions...
Max
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On IE6 (Win2k), the colored boxes containing the right nav links do not
expand to the varying widths of the links.
I was able to get a good result from adding:
* html ul#mainmenu {
width:auto;
}
* html ul#mainmenu li {
width: 3.8em;
}
*html ul#mainmenu li a {
width:120%;
}
This made the nav bar display as same-width boxes with full link visibility.
I don't think that one was on your list, but IE6 is always good for a
few surprises
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Re: [css-d] Fluid Forms
Jonathan Lui wrote:
hey all,
This is something I'm working on,
http://dev.r8dhex.net/stuff/sample1.htm
Long story short, this is for a web-application, target browsers is FF/IE6+.
My goal is to have a variety of form-controls that look good in different
configurations, and different resolutions. I'd also like the inputs to
expand when there is enough space. I'm trying to move away from table-based
designs, since this will eventually be server-generated, and it will be
easier if each label/input pair is sufficiently encapsulated.
We used to have a 2-column table-based layout with fixed-size inputs
depending on whether we need full-width or half-width, but if a user has a
hi-res screen, the inputs spread out and leave big spaces in between. I
tried using percentages, but then the inputs don't align properly along the
right-side.
Anyway, I'm pretty happy with this version, but there are still some bugs
that I can't fix. I'd like half-width to be really 50%, and full should be
100%, but IE has different ideas on what 100% means. IE also has problems
aligning the right side of the inputs, I'd like the right side of the
full-width input to line-up with the right-side of the 2nd-column inputs.
The select doesn't line up properly as well. Right now it can't handle
longer labels. It would also be better if the form would switch to 1-column
layout if the inputs go below a certain width.
I'd appreciate any feedback good or bad, whether my idea is sound, or how I
can improve this, or another approach to the problem. Maybe there's an
obscure css property that magically does what I need, and works in my target
browsers :).
Thanks
Jonathan
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Try declaring
input {
width:100%;
overflow:visible;}
..as a start. It should help you figure out the rest rather quickly.
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Re: [css-d] Sensitivity in posts WAS: image gallery
Eystein Alnaes wrote: I would be courteous to provide a note of some sort before linking to samples with explicit or pornographic content Thank you. dan storm ~ web developer ~ w: 206.266.0292 ~ c: 425.503.9580 Please accept my apologies. My only excuse is to point to cultural differences, as this example is from a mainstream online newspaper, no different from any other newspaper (including print) here in Norway. Thus it didn't cross my mind, although I will in the future. Eystein __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ Nothing to apologize for, except that the only nudity was that of a guy. Americans aren't big on that. - (Joke) In the future, I recommend a code word, like Continenatal version for pictures with nudity. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Drop down (p7) menu hidden behind other CSS elements?
Try
#p7menubar, #p7menubar ul {
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
list-style: none;
color: #FF;
font-size: 13px;
font-family: arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: 400;
text-align: left;
text-transform: capitalize;
--- display: table;
margin-bottom: 5px;
width: 99%;
padding-bottom: 6px;
padding-top: 6px;
padding-left: 12px;
background-color: #163A66;
}
See how that works for you.
- JC
Anne E. Shroeder wrote:
I've just implemented a different method for using a drop down DHTML menu
because I was not satisfied with the behavior of the other one. It is
working great on its own:
http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/dropdown.htm
CSS located at
http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/p7_cssexpress/p7exp/p7exp.css
but it gets hidden behind other elements of the page when integrated. What
am I doing wrong?
Examples of implementation:
http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/template-public-6.htm
CSS at http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/template-public-6.css
and http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/template-10.htm
CSS at http://www.language-works.com/swimdesign/template-10.css
TIA,
Anne
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Re: [css-d] Form difference between FF and IE6
You may want to check your DOCTYPE validation. http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamito.org%2Finscricao.php Many times, while fixing validation issues you either solve or figure out what is causing strange behaviors. Then you can better determine if it is a browser bug that you're dealing with or something else. - JC mamrg wrote: Hi, If you care to visit this page: http://www.gamito.org/inscricao.php you'll see that the form viwed in IE6 is positioned below in the pages, while in Firefox is viewed correctly. Is there a way to fix this in IE6 ? I'm going nuts, here :( Any help would be appreciated. Warm Regards, Mário Gamito __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Overlapping div/content problem
Here's an article that will serve as a good starting point for fixing the expanding box problem that you're having. http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html IE is expanding the box to accommodate the overflowing content, but that's actually not a standards-compliant thing to do. - JC __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS Block Element Links
Add this declaration to your style sheet.
span {
cursor:pointer;
}
-JC
Daniel Klug wrote:
OMG! Thank you for responding! This actually helped! This fixed the
problem in IE for the image. I can even float it!
Thank you again! Now everything in the anchor is clickable and active.
And now for the anal, nit-picky:
Although the text is active, if you roll the mouse over it, the cursor
doesn't change to the 'link' cursor. It stays as the 'text-select' cursor.
Is there a way to fix this? Even with javascript maybe? So that the
whole block acts as it does in Firefox and Safari?
Thanks again!
-Daniel
Bradley Rench wrote:
Isn't the problem that the img tag is inside a span tag? If you remove
the span tags surrounding short.gif and lst_hotline_120.jpg and put a
class attribute on those img tags (e.g. class=tag for short.gif,
class=thumb for lst_hotline_120.jpg), does that solve the problem for
IE ?
On 9/14/06, *Daniel Klug* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just to add some info, the problem seems to trigger when I float
elements within the anchor.
Perhaps there is a way to deliver it to IE with Javascript? Or maybe
overlay a transparent .gif?
Anybody?
-Daniel
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