[css-d] Background missing in IE

2008-03-13 Thread Jehangir Larry
Pls see http://www.neelamindore.com/1.html
The background (gif image, not png) appears in FF but not IE incl. IE7.
Strange.
Grateful for help.

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Re: [css-d] Site check please :Arun Dixit:

2008-01-21 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
  
 Re: www.arundixit.com
 Firefox displays as intended.
 IE6 and IE7 do not display header background.
 Additionally, IE6 does not center content.s of #inner.
 Appreciate advice/ suggestions for above.
 Also, a general site check please.
 Thanks.

   

 Thanks, as usual. I have implemented the suggestions (including 
 border: fuchsia ;-)), but as yet, no go in both IE6  IE7.
 Maintaining status quo...till I hear further?





 Seems to work (more or less) in IE/6.0 and IE/7.0 on this end: xp/ie 
 on mac os x 10.4.11.
 Please see:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/lj.html

 Regards,
 ~dL


...certainly does on IE/Win XP too.
Let me recheck /compare the CSS on your file with mine.
A million thanks, kind Sir.

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[css-d] Site check please :Arun Dixit:

2008-01-20 Thread Jehangir Larry
Re: www.arundixit.com
Firefox displays as intended.
IE6 and IE7 do not display header background.
Additionally, IE6 does not center content.s of #inner.
Appreciate advice/ suggestions for above.
Also, a general site check please.
Thanks.

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[css-d] IE6 - Sperling Vertical Menu

2007-12-27 Thread Jehangir Larry
Pls see www.nayanindore.com
The menu works first time in IE6 (XP) and then freezes!
Grateful for suggestions to make it work.
Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] IE6 - Sperling Vertical Menu

2007-12-27 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
   
 Pls see www.nayanindore.com
 The menu works first time in IE6 (XP) and then freezes!
 Grateful for suggestions to make it work.
 Thanks.

   
 


 There is a reason why some of us try to avoid menus such as those.

 Isolate the menu (pull the menu from the page, and put it  on another 
 page all by itself).

 1/ If you have the same problem with it isolated, go back to Sperling's 
 original and start from scratch.
 2/ If, when isolated, there is no problem, then there may be a js script 
 (or css) conflict between the menu and the page it is in.

 Best,
 ~dL

 PS If all else fails, keep it simple: 
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic2/vertical02.htm

   
Shall revert soon. Appreciate suggestion. Thanks.

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[css-d] Site Check ::Nayan Indore::

2007-12-26 Thread Jehangir Larry
Compliments of the season.
I have issues in IE (XP) with faux-columns - www.nayanindore.com
The style4ie.css is courtesy Mr. David Laakso--Mr. Georg Sortun.
Menu from Mr. Tedd Sperling.
Appreciate site-check cross browser; and all advise.
Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Nayan Indore::

2007-12-26 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
   
 Compliments of the season.
 I have issues in IE (XP) with faux-columns - www.nayanindore.com

 Appreciate site-check cross browser; and all advise.
 Thanks.

   
 


 #page{background-color: #f8f8e1;}--- add the background-color ::

 #outer{height:1%;} -- add height: 1%; to each (you may not need it on 
 all four ::
 #wrapper{height:1%;}
 #container{height:1%;}
 #content{height:1%;}

 IE/6.0 dose not seem to be honoring min/max width.
 --You are calling the style sheet for it

 style4ie.css

 twice. Leave only the one that is in the CCs for IE6:

 Re-write the CC for IE 6 and down to read:
 !--[if lte IE 7]


 ![endif]--

 Please note I have /not/ tested any iof the above.

 Good luck.

 ~dL






   
Thank you. These two words say it all.
It now works - even in IE6, at text Largest. Most grateful.
I would appreciate a web-link to understand (if possible ;-)) the 1% 
hack and the stuff in style4ie.css .
Perhaps Molly...
A Happy 2008 to all.

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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Nayan Indore::

2007-12-26 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
  
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
  
 Compliments of the season.
 I have issues in IE (XP) with faux-columns - www.nayanindore.com

 Appreciate site-check cross browser; and all advise.
 Thanks.

 
 #page{background-color: #f8f8e1;}--- add the background-color ::

 #outer{height:1%;} -- add height: 1%; to each (you may not need it 
 on all four ::
 #wrapper{height:1%;}
 #container{height:1%;}
 #content{height:1%;}

 IE/6.0 dose not seem to be honoring min/max width.
 --You are calling the style sheet for it

 style4ie.css

 twice. Leave only the one that is in the CCs for IE6:

 Re-write the CC for IE 6 and down to read:
 !--[if lte IE 7]


 ![endif]--

 Please note I have /not/ tested any iof the above.

 Good luck.

 ~dL






   
 Thank you. These two words say it all.
 It now works - even in IE6, at text Largest. Most grateful.
 I would appreciate a web-link to understand (if possible ;-)) the 1% 
 hack and the stuff in style4ie.css .
 Perhaps Molly...
 A Happy 2008 to all.

   

 Good.

 Georg Sortun is better at explaing this stuff than me, but anyway-- 
 height : 1%;, or min-height : 0; could have been used as well, are 
 hasLayout triggers to give layout  (make win/IE -- IE /7 -- in this 
 instance, behave dimensionally). It is a complex and most difficult 
 concept that is well explained  here:
 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

 Min/max width is not supported in IE 6 and down. Georg explains the 
 work around used in your style sheet

 style4ie.css for IE 6

 here:
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html

 HTH.

 Best,

 ~d




Many thanks again.
BTW, the menu has now stopped working in IE6!
Is Tedd listening?!

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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Nayan Indore::

2007-12-26 Thread Jehangir Larry


Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
 On 26-Dec-07, at 7:03 PM, Jehangir Larry wrote:

 www.nayanindore.com

 Your list bullets ( Nayan Optiks, et al.) could use a little more 
 padding on most OS X browsers. I found your menu a little less than 
 obvious, but that is a fairly subjective thing.

 In Firefox 2/OS X, the 'Y' in your logo seems to be getting cut off. 
 Perhaps adjusting the margins/padding around that character will help?

 Best,
  - Rahul.



Thanks, Rahul.

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[css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
I have a test page at:
http://www.jehangirlarry.com/test.php

I am unable to reduce the font size in any version of IE.
FF/Opera are OK.

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Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
Other sites show OK in all versions of IE with me.
Are you suggesting I remove and re-install IE?
Thanks.
JL
 Original Message 
From: Rafael
To: Jehangir Larry
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

 There's a problem with your IE(s). I can resize the font both in
 IE 6  7 (Win XP Pro 64). 
 
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 I have a test page at:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/test.php
 
 I am unable to reduce the font size in any version of IE.
 FF/Opera are OK.
 
 Many thanks.
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Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
Perhaps I need to restate the issue.
I have specified a font-size of 80% in the embedded CSS.
FF/Opera will show this reduced size.
IE (all versions) do not display the reduced size.
I am not talking about user font resizing.
Trust that clears it.
Thanks.
JL

 Original Message 
From: Rafael
To: Jehangir Larry
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

 There's a problem with your IE(s). I can resize the font both in
 IE 6  7 (Win XP Pro 64). 
 
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 I have a test page at:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/test.php
 
 I am unable to reduce the font size in any version of IE.
 FF/Opera are OK.
 
 Many thanks.
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Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 I have a test page at:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/test.php

 I am unable to reduce the font size in any version of IE.
 FF/Opera are OK.

 Many thanks.
 --
 Jehangir Larry



 I see relatively little difference in a side by side comparison with
 the above browsers and any version of IE at text-size medium.

 ~dL

My fault, not explaining the issue at length.
I have now posted another full page at 
http://www.jehangirlarry.com/makhija/test.php
When seen in FF/Opera/Safari (PC) the #header-sub (~Engineers  
Contractors~) appears as intended.
In IE (all) - PC, it appears huge. Atleast here.
Thanks for all replies on/off line.

JL 

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Re: [css-d] IE Font Size issue

2007-09-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 
 I have a test page at:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/test.php
 
 I am unable to reduce the font size in any version of IE.
 FF/Opera are OK.
 
 Many thanks.
 --
 Jehangir Larry
 
 
 I see relatively little difference in a side by side comparison with
 the above browsers and any version of IE at text-size medium.
 
 ~dL
 
 
 My fault, not explaining the issue at length.
 I have now posted another full page at
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/makhija/test.php
 When seen in FF/Opera/Safari (PC) the #header-sub (~Engineers 
 Contractors~) appears as intended.
 In IE (all) - PC, it appears huge. Atleast here.
 Thanks for all replies on/off line.
 
 JL
 
 
 
 You explained it just fine the first time. The problem may be a
 setting on your end as it functions normaly here in IE6 and IE7.
 
 Best,
 ~dL
 
 PS You may want to validate the markup and css.

Well, that is a relief.
Yes I shall validate.
Thanks again folks.
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Re: [css-d] IE 6 sticky bug

2007-04-29 Thread Jehangir Larry
Jed Arnold wrote:
 I'm working on a site and wanted to make the default page more
 dynamic by adding CSS image pop-ups to my h1 links. I adapted code
 from Nathan Smith's HoverBox technique.

 My code is working fine in FF, IE 7/Win, Opera and Moz, but IE 6/Win
 is giving me a problem. The images (initiated by a:hover) are staying
 on the screen in IE6.

 The images are squashed, I haven't loaded new size-specific images
 yet.

 The site can be viewed here,
 http://the1912gallery.ehc.edu/music/newsite/textlinktest.html. The
 CSS is embedded.

 Any ideas or help?



 Thanks in advance.

 Best,
 Jed

Using Nathan's IE fixes, you may add the following lines to the 'head' and 
the rest in an external stylesheet.
!--[if IE]
link rel=stylesheet href='css/ie_fixes.css' type=text/css 
media=screen, projection /
![endif]--
/* =Internet Explorer Fixes
--*/

.hoverbox a
{
position: relative;
}

.hoverbox a:hover
{
display: block;
font-size: 100%;
z-index: 1;
}

.hoverbox a:hover .preview
{
top: -38px;
left: -50px;
}

.hoverbox li
{
position: static;
}HTH
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Re: [css-d] IE 6 problem

2007-04-28 Thread Jehangir Larry
Bruno Fassino wrote:
 Jed Arnold wrote:

 I'm working on a site and wanted to make the default page
 more dynamic by
 adding CSS image pop-ups to my h1 links. I adapted code from Nathan
 Smith's HoverBox technique.

 My code is working fine in FF, IE 7/Win, Opera and Moz, but
 IE 6/Win is giving me a problem. The images (initiated by a:hover)
 are staying on the
 screen in IE6.
 [...]

 The site can be viewed here,
 http://the1912gallery.ehc.edu/music/newsite/textlinktest.html


 IE frequently has such stuck on hover effects. Some cases are
 mentioned here [1], but your looks different.
 I would try wrapping the images in a span and moving the preview
 class on the span:
 span class=previewimg src=... //span

 If you want to maintain the current size for the images you should
 then change your .joverbox .preview { width: 300px; height: 50px; }
 rule into
 .joverbox .preview img { ... }

 hth,
 Bruno



 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/pseudocss.html#hoverstuck

Possibly you have a solution here:
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/83533 with a great 
explanation from Georg.
It worked for me beautifully.

Best,
Larry 

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Re: [css-d] IE6 Horizontal Menu - Last Item

2007-03-18 Thread Jehangir Larry
Sorry if I wasted your time. The error is  resolved. Thanks.
 
 _j[_
 Larry
 
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Please see the horizontal menu  at www.teerthyatri.com in IE6. All
 others are fine :-)
 As such, it looks/behaves fine even here.
 But if the last 2 menu items - Contact and Services - are
 interchanged, so as to make Contact the very last menu item, IE6 goes
 crazy. Contact now becomes a bare 'list-item-with-bullet' - no
 dressing! Why?
 
 It is also not as if the presence of sub-items will remedy this.
 Even if some nested lists are added under Contact the problem
 persists. But interchange positions with Services and --presto its
 OK! Services kept as last item has no such problems that Contact
 does and is fine.
 
 I have no hassles leaving it as such but was wondering if there is an
 explanation/solution.
 BTW, Home and Maps are also without any nested items but seem to be
 doing fine.
 What gives with Contact ?
 
 Also, please remember that IE6 renders in quirks mode because of the
 xml declaration.
 I have tried both flavors, just to see, no avail.
 
 Many thanks and regards.
 
 _j[_arry
 
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[css-d] IE6 Horizontal Menu - Last Item

2007-03-16 Thread Jehangir Larry
Please see the horizontal menu  at www.teerthyatri.com in IE6. All others 
are fine :-)
As such, it looks/behaves fine even here.
But if the last 2 menu items - Contact and Services - are interchanged, so 
as to make Contact the very last menu item, IE6 goes crazy. Contact now 
becomes a bare 'list-item-with-bullet' - no dressing! Why?

It is also not as if the presence of sub-items will remedy this.
Even if some nested lists are added under Contact the problem persists.
But interchange positions with Services and --presto its OK!
Services kept as last item has no such problems that Contact does and is 
fine.

I have no hassles leaving it as such but was wondering if there is an 
explanation/solution.
BTW, Home and Maps are also without any nested items but seem to be doing 
fine.
What gives with Contact ?

Also, please remember that IE6 renders in quirks mode because of the xml 
declaration.
I have tried both flavors, just to see, no avail.

Many thanks and regards.

_j[_arry

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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
Ingo Chao wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Grateful for a site check http://www.teerthyatri.com
 Problem:
 FF2 on XP SP2 throws the google search box up towards the header;
 instead of below the navigation menu in left sidebar, as intended.
 IE7 shows it fine!
 
 The styles were not loaded at all because of a server
 misconfiguration, the css file was sent as text/html instead of
 text/css. 
 
 For the search box problem: the form should clear the float.
 
 Ingo
Thanks, Ingo. While cleaning up the CSS file I erased a rule set.
Why did this omission not affect IE at all?
Also, appreciate a cross browser check.
Regards.
_j[_
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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Grateful for a site check http://www.teerthyatri.com
 Problem:
 FF2 on XP SP2 throws the google search box up towards the header;
 instead of below the navigation menu in left sidebar, as intended.
 IE7 shows it fine!
 Many TIA
 -
 _j[_
 Larry


 The search box is working as intended.

 In IE/6.0 you are getting float drop at text-size largest (width
 issue?). This at the bottom of the style sheet (on a local file)
 seemed to help: * html .fast #main {width:675px;}

 If you are into trivial and esoteric style pursuits, try:

 For home page  elsewhere if there is a similar note, try:
 From: html/css
 p class=noteJust feel free to ask and we promise you, we shall
 deliver.br /
 emEvery time/em./p
 .note {width:150px; margin: 20px; float: right; text-align:left;
 color:#801E31; font-size: 85%; border:#f7f6ef thin outset;}

 To: html/css
 div id=note
 pJust feel free to ask and we promise you, we shall deliver.br /
 strongEvery time/strong./p
 /div
 div#note {width:150px; margin: 0 20px 20px 20px; float: right;
 text-align:left;}
 div#note p {background-color: inherit; border: 3px double #cda; color:
 #954a4a; margin: 0; padding: 15px 6px 1.25em 20px; font-size: 85%; }
 div#note p:hover { border: 3px double #c63; }/*for compliant browsers
 and even ie/7.0*/

 The footer may be more complex than necessary? See if replacing the
 current styles with these is to your liking:
 #footer {background-color: #E0E0C0; color: inherit; border-top: 3px
 double #a08a5b; clear: both; text-align: center;padding-top: 6px;}
 #footer .nav ul {margin: 0; padding: 2px 0 7px 0; list-style:none;
 text-transform:uppercase;}
 #footer .nav ul.c1 { margin: 0; padding-top: 4px; padding-bottom: 5px;
 list-style:none; font-size: 85%; text-transform:none;}

 And you many want to consider bumping up the font-size of h2 (and the
 color) just a little.

 Best,
 ~dL

Thanks very much, indeed. I have happily and gratefully adopted ALL your 
suggestions. They are neither trivial nor esoteric. The footer is the one 
that is not working for me but thats purely subjective.
This list rocks because of contributors like you. Hurray.
Regards.
_j[_ 

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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Grateful for a site check http://www.teerthyatri.com
 
 The footer is the one that is not working for me but thats purely
 subjective.
 
 Regards.
 _j[_
 Then one or both of us has made a mistake somewhere along the line.
 I think the footer is supposed to be more like this:
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 Best,
 ~dL
I did a cut and paste. It works! Great.
This list can and will promote laziness - at this rate.
Regards.
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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 J
 
 Grateful for a site check http://www.teerthyatri.com
 
 The footer is the one that is not working for me but thats purely
 subjective.
 
 Regards.
 _j[_
 Then one or both of us has made a mistake somewhere along the line.
 I think the footer is supposed to be more like this:
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 Best,
 ~dL
 
 The footer is positioned correctly now and seems to be in order. Would
 you consider making the background-color of it (the footer) the same
 color as your sig image (so it blends in)?
 ~d
Good idea. And implemented - pronto! Thank you.
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[css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-13 Thread Jehangir Larry
Grateful for a site check http://www.teerthyatri.com 
Problem:
FF2 on XP SP2 throws the google search box up towards the header; 
instead of below the navigation menu in left sidebar, as intended.
IE7 shows it fine!
Many TIA
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Larry
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Re: [css-d] Site Check ::Jehangir::

2007-02-13 Thread Jehangir Larry
Parag Jagdale wrote:
 I dont think your css is linked right - the styles are not applied at
 all. 
 
 Parag
No stylesheet is fine...please recheck?
Thanks
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Re: [css-d] IE7 Problems with Drop Down Menu

2007-02-11 Thread Jehangir Larry
tedd wrote:
 Hi gang:
 
 The link:
 
 http://sperling.com/examples/menuh/
 
 The problem:
 
 IE 5-6 required the csshover.htc to make this css technique work.
 
 In IE7 the menu works w/o the csshover.htc file, but only when the
 user's cursor is over the text in a menu item and it should be
 whenever the cursor is over any part of a menu item instead.
 
 I seem to remember a simple cure for such behavior in using a rule
 like display: block;, but I don't have IE7 to test this.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 Thanks in advance for any assistance.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tedd
The horizontal menu in the link you've given works fine in IE7. XP SP2
Best,
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[css-d] IE 6 alone scoffs

2007-02-02 Thread Jehangir Larry
Please see report http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=320273 
for www.teerthyatri.com
Except IE6 all OK. [Don't care about Netscape 4.]
Grateful for advice.
TIA
_
Larry
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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-18 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote on 17/01/2007:
Larry, I will reply directly to you off-list this evening or in the 
morning-- straight out at the moment...
Regards,
David
-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

I wish to record my deep appreciation and very grateful thanks to David for 
an 'out of this world' experience. he has been incredibly patient and walked 
not just an extra mile, but several miles.
Also, Georg and Molly t.c. - a big thanks.
Best,
Larry

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[css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
Please see http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
The left hand menu appears centered horizontally in FF but not in IE [I am 
on IE7]
Appreciate advice. This centering issue continues to confuse me.
TIA
Larry 

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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
From: ~davidLaakso
 Try positioning the ul#navmenu declaration  rather than #menu:
 Delete this ruleset:
 /*#menu {position:relative; padding:30px 0 0 22px; margin: 0 auto; 
 background-color: fuchsia; }*/
 Amend this ruleset:
 ul#navmenu {
 margin: 0 auto; delete
 margin: 30px auto 0 auto; add
 }
 BTW, you're getting some cross-over text overlap with a sidebar and/or 
 with font-scaling.
 Regards,
 ~dL
 
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 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Thanks, once again. Works very well.
Does this then mean that the #menu was a superfluous div?  
Regards,
Larry
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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 I /guess/ the reason why you may have had difficulty centering the list 
 horizontally cross-browser is because of conflicting rules. Since 
 ul#navmenu alone positions the list, #menu can probably be deleted from 
 the markup.
 Best,
 ~dL
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Thanks a ton. Working fine.
Best,
Larry 

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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
- Original Message - 
From: ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jehangir Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 trimmed
 Thanks a ton. Working fine.
 Well... you are getting there, Larry. You may (among other things :-) ) 
 want to abandon the absolute positioning so that those little content 
 boxes flow with font-scaling (try her at 2+ font-scaling in ff and 
 text-size 'largest in ie). The heading h1 should not cross-over or drop 
 behind, and you may not want the primary content to disappear under the 
 footer. This stuff is a lot more fun if you let go and let the software 
 do its thing ;-) .
 Best,
 Larry 
 Regards,
 ~dL

Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. 
What should I do? i can't even figure out where to start!
Larry

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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 [Previous messages trimmed]
 Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. What should I do? i can't 
 even figure out where to start!
 Larry
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 It will go easier if you *abandon the absolute positioning* and let the 
 content flow without inhibiting and restricting it..
 For example:
 Amend the #remove1 ruleset to read only:
 #remove1 {
 background-color:#fff;
 border:2px outset navy;
 margin: 30px auto 0 auto;
 text-align:center;
 width:180px;
 }
 And amend the html. Physically move the markup for div id=remove1 and 
 put it  below the navigation box in the right column, like so:
 div id=right
 h4 ... /h4
 ul id=layouts
 li ... /li
 /ul
 div id=remove1
 a href=#nogoNEWSbr
 Vessels Berthingbr
 Recruiting Nowbr
 See Application Form/a
 /div!--/close #remove1--
 /div!--/close #right--
 The /other absolute position box/ was treated in a similar way to the
 above, and the conditional comment deleted so it will happen in IE6.0
 the way  it does in IE7, too.
 !--[if IE6] style type=text/css #content,  #main,  #inner-wrap, 
 #wrap { zoom:1; }/style![endif]--
 The h1, footer, and any other issues remain to be resolved :-) .
 Please see: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 HTH.
 Regards,
 ~dL
You are an incredible help. I need a while to 'digest' all this; before I 
respond.
I am honoured to have your acquaintance and deeply appreciate the pains you 
take.
You (and ofcourse, many others) raise the bar each time you contribute to 
this list.
Regards.
Larry

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Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 [Previous messages trimmed]
 Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. What should I do? i
 can't  even figure out where to start!
 Larry
 In reference to your url:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
--SNIP--
 Please see: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 HTH.
 Regards,
 ~dL
 You are an incredible help. I need a while to 'digest' all this; before I
 respond.
 I am honoured to have your acquaintance and deeply appreciate the pains
 you  take.
 You (and ofcourse, many others) raise the bar each time you contribute to
 this list.
 Regards.
 Larry
David,
Made changes and uploaded. Now no breaking --sidebar, +sizes. But the footer 
does not stay at the very bottom if size made ---small.
Rest (incl H1) seem OK. At least to me :-))
Yet more coming my way?
Best
Larry


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Re: [css-d] page check please

2007-01-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Larry, I think it is probably working as you intend in ie7.0 and the 
 latest versions of ff and opera. IE 6 and down do not support position 
 fixed so problems are anticipated there. The flower image works on hover 
 but not the header image on hover. There is left column float drop in 
 ie/6.0-- probably due to the horizontal padding on the width bearing right 
 column. Moving that padding to the inside elements might help (although 
 others on the list may have an easier css work around). The page is 
 against the left rail in ie5 and 5.5. Try adding text-align: center; to 
 the body declaration. And text-align: left; to #wrap.
 Best,
 ~dL

Thanks David.
Did as you said. Unable to center the various buttons in the sidebar - 
despite margin 0 auto and text-align-center.
Pls re-check for me? Also any suggestion - how to center those 'buttons'?
Deeply appreciate your support.
The 'fixed' problem implies I modify the design?
Best.
Larry
From: ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jehangir Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] page check please


 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Appreciate a page check - different user agents (specially older IE), 
 with suggestions for improvement.
 www.teerthyatri.com
 Many TIA.
 Larry 

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[css-d] cssmania

2007-01-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
Funnily (or not) the HTML/CSS of the show-case http://cssmania.com do not 
validate!
We are all human, I guess.
Larry 

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[css-d] cssmania

2007-01-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
While exploring this issue, I checked a random site show-cased - 
http://www.justinshattuck.com/ and it fails validation.
Standards protagonists urgently need to look at this. IMHO.
Larry 

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Re: [css-d] page check please

2007-01-14 Thread Jehangir Larry
Thanks David, Georg, Matt.
Except for the header roll-over (the customer is king) implemented all 
suggestions. 
Long live this great list.

Comment: Georg, your email in the css was due to a hasty cut/paste. Its gone :-)

Regards,
Larry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Dawson 
  To: Jehangir Larry 
  Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] page check please


  Though I believe everything is working as you intend, I would suggest 
rethinking the header rollover trick. When I roll over the header image, the 
image extends, and thus increases the height of the page. But then if I move on 
to the navigation bar - in an effort to navigate to a particular section - the 
page shrinks, and my mouse pointer is effectively pulled away from the nav 
bar. i have to scroll up the page to get to it, now that the page has reverted 
to its shorter length. 

  For what it's worth, I'm on Firefox 2.0 on the mac. I'm actually not sure how 
other browsers handle this type of scenario - though now I'm intrigued to find 
out!

  matt


  On 1/13/07, Jehangir Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Appreciate a page check - different user agents (specially older IE), with
suggestions for improvement.
www.teerthyatri.com
Many TIA.
Larry

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[css-d] page check please

2007-01-13 Thread Jehangir Larry
Appreciate a page check - different user agents (specially older IE), with 
suggestions for improvement.
www.teerthyatri.com
Many TIA.
Larry

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Re: [css-d] IE issue

2007-01-08 Thread Jehangir Larry
--snip--
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 ...and contains all styles needed for a stable effect.
 I have more or less copied the visual effects from the original, as seen
 in the good browsers.

 The trick for IE6 is that 'position: relative' is switched on :hover,
 and switched back to 'position: static' once the mouse-pointer leaves.
 That also solves the stacking-problems.

Strangely, now the footer is not 'clearing' and jumping into the sidebar!
I am lost.
Appreciate any suggestions.

Regards.
Larry

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Re: [css-d] IE issue

2007-01-08 Thread Jehangir Larry
Thanks very much.
- Original Message - 
From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE issue


 Sending this to the list also, as some may actually read the archives.

 Jehangir Larry wrote:

 I would like you to explain the 'static' issue a bit more. This is
 one area that truly befuddles me.

 'position: static' is the default-value, but since 'position: relative'
 is used on :hover I had to declare 'static' to make sure it kicked in in
 IE.

 IE has a tendency to lock up in :hover-state under certain conditions.
 What 'static' does is simply to tell IE that 'nothing is positioned
 here' when the mouse-pointer leaves the link. That makes IE release the
 absolute positioned large image and hide it. I won't try to explain IE's
 erratic behavior without the fix - it's a bug.

 IE also has severe problems/bugs when we try to stack absolute
 positioned elements above relative positioned ones.
 'position: static' has no effect on stacking - it's always the bottom or
 default level and any z-index is ignored. Declaring 'position: relative'
 will lift the element - link - up one stacking-level.
 Therefore, the link that you :hover on will get 'position: relative' and
 will automatically be stacked above all non-hovered links. The absolute
 positioned large image will be lifted with its own :hovered link, and
 the result is visually perfect stacking.

 I often use this 'switch stacking on :hover' method for multi-line
 menus with drop downs, as it ensures correct stacking in all major
 browsers - not just IE.

 Hope that all made some sense - despite the fact that we're in part
 dealing with nonsensical bugs :-)

 regards
 Georg
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 http://www.gunlaug.no
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Re: [css-d] IE issue

2007-01-07 Thread Jehangir Larry
THANKS Andy.
I did as you said, and mostly it works fine. 
The z-index although doesn't seem to respond. So I reduced the size of the 
large pic and gave it a -ve top margin, to avoid overlaps between small and 
large (on hover) images. Otherwise the small one keeps peeking through the 
hovered one.
Why is this despite .pic having a z-index = 100 and .pic a .large having = 
1000! (The 1000 is in frustration!)
We live and we learn.
Thanks again.
Larry
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  From: Andy Harrison 
  To: Jehangir Larry 
  Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE issue


  Sorry Larry, I don't see what's causing that.  I did notice that the image 
popups don't work correctly in IE 6 though (they aren't absolutely positioned); 
who knows, it may have something to do with that.  I have a few suggestions for 
your CSS: 

  .pic a .large {
   /*...*/
   display:none;   /*instead of block; so it's hidden until you hover - and 
so you don't have to make it a single pixel to hide it*/
   z-index:1;   /*or greater; so the large image shows above all the 
smaller ones*/ 
  }

  .pic a.p1:hover .large {
   /*get rid of position:fixed - this is probably causing the problem with 
the popups in IE; leave it as absolute*/
  }

  Hope that helps in some way :-)

  Andy
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[css-d] IE issue

2007-01-06 Thread Jehangir Larry
Please take a look at the single picture in the sidebar www.teerthyatri.com 
It appears below the menu in FF but 'crawls up' in IE, including IE7.
Appreciate all help.
TIA
Larry

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[css-d] Strange DT issue

2006-12-08 Thread Jehangir Larry
On www.indobioagri.com/biopesticides.asp  in FF 1.5,  I discovered a strange 
behaviour (after a lot of heartburn!)
If the HTML uses:
dt
img on two lines (with white space)  the CSS is followed correctly.
If it is on the same line dtimg (no whitespace)  there is a distinct 
'leftward' shift in the dt text and following images are pulled 'upward'. 
Any ideas?
TIA.
Larry 

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Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6

2006-12-02 Thread Jehangir Larry
Thanks, all.
Removed the 'span' and got rid of most errors. Errors now down to 4 from 70+ 
!
The 4 are because of an embedded swf and I am unable to get rid of them. Any 
ideas? Thanks in advance.
Larry
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From: david [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: css-d css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6


 Jehangir Larry wrote:

 The navigation includes UL's with spans (to accomodate a JS script that
 collapses it.) It involves a nesting order that the validator does not 
 seem
 to like! The menu is largish and unless each section auto-closes the
 navigation would be unseemly.
 It runs as follows (offending portion only):
 li class= AMain Item
ul
span
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item A/a/li
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item B/a/li
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item C/a/li
/span
/ul
/li
 Thanks in advance.

 SPAN is not a block element, therefore cannot be used to contain block
 elements like list items. Also, you can only follow an opening list tag
 with an opening list item tag - everything inside a list has to be
 inside a list item tag.

 Your JS should be able to collapse the entire list without needing the
 span ...

 - Original Message - 
 From: Roger Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jehangir Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6


 Larry,

 On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Jehangir Larry wrote:

 Apologies for posting earlier in HTML.
 Please see www.indobioagri.com

 -- 
 David
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Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6

2006-12-02 Thread Jehangir Larry
A million thanks. Arrived at 0 errors/ warnings.
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 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Thanks, all.
 Removed the 'span' and got rid of most errors. Errors now down to 4 from 
 70+
 !
 The 4 are because of an embedded swf and I am unable to get rid of them. 
 Any
 ideas? Thanks in advance.

 http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/

 Larry
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 Jehangir Larry wrote:

 The navigation includes UL's with spans (to accomodate a JS script that
 collapses it.) It involves a nesting order that the validator does not
 seem
 to like! The menu is largish and unless each section auto-closes the
 navigation would be unseemly.
 It runs as follows (offending portion only):
 li class= AMain Item
ul
span
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item A/a/li
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item B/a/li
lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item C/a/li
/span
/ul
/li
 Thanks in advance.
 SPAN is not a block element, therefore cannot be used to contain block
 elements like list items. Also, you can only follow an opening list tag
 with an opening list item tag - everything inside a list has to be
 inside a list item tag.

 Your JS should be able to collapse the entire list without needing the
 span ...

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 Larry,

 On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Jehangir Larry wrote:

 Apologies for posting earlier in HTML.
 Please see www.indobioagri.com

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Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6

2006-11-30 Thread Jehangir Larry
Thanks. I await your 'specific reply' eagerly and meantime have brought 
validation errors down by half!
The remaining errors pertain to - Google search and the nav menu.
I am reading the ALA article on 'satay' for the former; and, seek help on 
the latter.
The navigation includes UL's with spans (to accomodate a JS script that 
collapses it.) It involves a nesting order that the validator does not seem 
to like! The menu is largish and unless each section auto-closes the 
navigation would be unseemly.
It runs as follows (offending portion only):
li class= AMain Item
   ul
   span
   lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item A/a/li
   lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item B/a/li
   lia href=# class=linkageSub-Item C/a/li
   /span
   /ul
   /li
Thanks in advance.
Best.
Larry
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Larry,

On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Jehangir Larry wrote:

 Apologies for posting earlier in HTML.
 Please see www.indobioagri.com
- 8 
 All and any help, suggestions, pointers, appreciated.

I don't yet have the answer to your specific questions.  However,
your html markup has 73 errors, some of them fairly serious.  http://
validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indobioagri.com%
2F  I would suggest fixing the html first.  Styling structurally
invalid markup is a recipe for frustration because each browser tries
to recover from markup errors in different ways.

-- 
Roger Roelofs
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God allows U-turns!
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Re: [css-d] Menu floats down in IE6

2006-11-30 Thread Jehangir Larry
Hi francky,
Funnily, IE 6 on several other boxes (including mine) shows the 'drop' I 
mentioned.
Re validator - thanks. Made changes and errors reduced. Remaining ones need 
to be addressed by the stalwarts on this fabulous list. To avoid repition I 
request you see my reply to Roger Roelofs.
Thanks again.
Best.
Larry
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 Jehangir Larry wrote:

Apologies for posting earlier in HTML.
Please see www.indobioagri.com
The right column navigation (and google search etc) floats right down 
instead of at the top; in IE6 and in 1024 x 768 .
Its fine in FF. IE7 is also ok.
In Opera. the green sidebar background disappears!
Also, wide screens do not display this behaviour in any browser.
But IE6 alone in 1024 x 768 causes this behaviour. I am perplexed.
All and any help, suggestions, pointers, appreciated.
Thanks.
Larry
 Hi Larry,
 In my IE6 on Win98SE at 1024x768 full-size there is no dropping of the 
 right column; the drop is coming if the window is made smaller than about 
 940px. - In some way, the #content part is not shrinking for IE. In a 
 quick view I don't see why.
 But ... did you see what the html=validator is saying? [1]

* 
 http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indobioagri.com%2F
 
 http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indobioagri.com%2F

 They have quite a party of suggestions. It seems some div's aren't closed 
 in the right way, and that can trigger strange things in the layout.

 I hope after repairing the html, IE is following the css instructions as 
 expected! :-)

 Success and greetings,
 francky

 [1]
 Also the css-validator has some recommendations: 
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indobioagri.com%2F
  
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indobioagri.com%2F

 

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[css-d] Menu floats down in IE6

2006-11-29 Thread Jehangir Larry
Apologies for posting earlier in HTML.
Please see www.indobioagri.com
The right column navigation (and google search etc) floats right down 
instead of at the top; in IE6 and in 1024 x 768 .
Its fine in FF. IE7 is also ok.
In Opera. the green sidebar background disappears!
Also, wide screens do not display this behaviour in any browser.
But IE6 alone in 1024 x 768 causes this behaviour. I am perplexed.
All and any help, suggestions, pointers, appreciated.
Thanks.
Larry 

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