Re: [css-d] Can a subdivided 6px baseline grid work?

2007-08-17 Thread Richard Grevers
On 8/15/07, Timothy Kelty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trying to set up some groundwork for setting up future sites on a
 baseline grid. We starting setting to a 18px baseline, with a 12px body
 type.

 Problems we ran into initially dealt with lists, where we weren't satisfied
 with a full line of leading between list items, but we also didn't want to
 set it solid, with no spacing.  Since we didn't know the amount of list
 items, we couldnt simply go off the grid temporarily, then adjust the ul/ol
 to get back on the grid.

 What my coworker eventually suggested was designing the site to a subdivided
 baseline of 6px, so for normal body type, 3 baseline heights would equal
 18px, the desired leading.  A list item also takes up 18px, with 1 baseline
 (6px) between.  So regardless of the amount of items, when the list is done,
 you're still back on your next 6px line.

 I'm having trouble getting my head around this whether or not this is a
 valid method or not.  Obviously you could set a grid infinitely small, then
 everything is 'on the grid', hooray!

 Any thoughts/criticisms are greatly appreciated, or if you have any other
 solutions.
 Thanks

I am subscribed to http://webtypography.net/ - which is a project
where one of the classic books on print typography is being used as
the inspiration for a series on web typography. What you are trying to
do seems in keeping with Section 2.2 - maintaining a set measure even
after elements of different size disrupt the vertical flow. As you
will see, this can be achieved via a combination of margin (in ems)
and line-height.


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Re: [css-d] Can a subdivided 6px baseline grid work?

2007-08-17 Thread david
Richard Grevers wrote:
 On 8/15/07, Timothy Kelty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trying to set up some groundwork for setting up future sites on a
 baseline grid. We starting setting to a 18px baseline, with a 12px body
 type.

 Problems we ran into initially dealt with lists, where we weren't satisfied
 with a full line of leading between list items, but we also didn't want to
 set it solid, with no spacing.  Since we didn't know the amount of list
 items, we couldnt simply go off the grid temporarily, then adjust the ul/ol
 to get back on the grid.

 What my coworker eventually suggested was designing the site to a subdivided
 baseline of 6px, so for normal body type, 3 baseline heights would equal
 18px, the desired leading.  A list item also takes up 18px, with 1 baseline
 (6px) between.  So regardless of the amount of items, when the list is done,
 you're still back on your next 6px line.

 I'm having trouble getting my head around this whether or not this is a
 valid method or not.  Obviously you could set a grid infinitely small, then
 everything is 'on the grid', hooray!

 Any thoughts/criticisms are greatly appreciated, or if you have any other
 solutions.
 Thanks
 
 I am subscribed to http://webtypography.net/ - which is a project
 where one of the classic books on print typography is being used as
 the inspiration for a series on web typography. What you are trying to
 do seems in keeping with Section 2.2 - maintaining a set measure even
 after elements of different size disrupt the vertical flow. As you
 will see, this can be achieved via a combination of margin (in ems)
 and line-height.

So long as you specify things being aware that - unlike print typography 
- you have no control over font choice or size ...

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[css-d] Can a subdivided 6px baseline grid work?

2007-08-15 Thread Timothy Kelty
I've been trying to set up some groundwork for setting up future sites on a
baseline grid. We starting setting to a 18px baseline, with a 12px body
type.

Problems we ran into initially dealt with lists, where we weren't satisfied
with a full line of leading between list items, but we also didn't want to
set it solid, with no spacing.  Since we didn't know the amount of list
items, we couldnt simply go off the grid temporarily, then adjust the ul/ol
to get back on the grid.

What my coworker eventually suggested was designing the site to a subdivided
baseline of 6px, so for normal body type, 3 baseline heights would equal
18px, the desired leading.  A list item also takes up 18px, with 1 baseline
(6px) between.  So regardless of the amount of items, when the list is done,
you're still back on your next 6px line.

I'm having trouble getting my head around this whether or not this is a
valid method or not.  Obviously you could set a grid infinitely small, then
everything is 'on the grid', hooray!

Any thoughts/criticisms are greatly appreciated, or if you have any other
solutions.
Thanks
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