Re: [css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread Jukka K. Korpela

Tim Arnold wrote:


The beauty of CSS is that you can style your H2s to be larger than
your H1s.


There's even more beauty: you can style some text as prominently as you like 
without even making it a heading at all. It often happens that people want 
to highlight e.g. a company name or a campaign name appearing before a page 
heading. Normally such texts are logically not headings at all, and there's 
no need to use heading markup for them. You can use  markup, typically 
with a class attribute, and style the element "from scratch". The difference 
between this approach and using heading markup is that the latter implies, 
in practice, some default rendering (typically, top and bottom margin, large 
font size, and bolding), and you need to explicitly override it if you don't 
want it.


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Re: [css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread Climis, Tim
> And an inside page might be...?
> 
> p.tagline {font-size: 100% } /*source document title: solid bricks*/
> h1{font-size: 125%} /*sub: solid colored bricks*/
> h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid umber colored bricks*/
> h3 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid burnt sienna colored bricks*/
> h4 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid sienna colored bricks*/
> h5 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid dark ochre colored bricks*/
> h6 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid ochre colored bricks*/
> 
> Best,
> Vincent

It seems to me that this would be:
p.tagline {font-size: 100% } /*source document title: solid bricks*/
h1{font-size: 125%} /*sub: solid colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid umber colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid burnt sienna colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid sienna colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid dark ochre colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid ochre colored bricks*/

unless I'm just not good at color, and burnt sienna is a shade of umber.

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Re: [css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread David Laakso

On 11/22/10 10:46 AM, Giles, Sarah wrote:

I am working on a large site with some designers.
I have been told to have the h1 tags below the h2 and h3 tags because they want 
the headlines that are lower on the page to be larger and more important then 
the ones higher up.

I think I will still encapsulate this part of the site in a div so as not to 
through off styles from the rest of the site. What do you guys think? Should 
what tags should I use. The style they want the tags to be is styled h1 for the 
site they think (they are having trouble nailing down a style guide for this 
project)

Sarah Giles




Dear Theo, that always confuses me, too... and I'm not so sure it is 
on-topic, but either way, fwiw:


w3c: "Headings should reflect the logical structure of the document; 
they should not be used simply to add emphasis, or to change the font size."

Taken literally, I suppose you might have something this on the index...?

h1 {font-size: 100%}/*source document title: bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 125%}/*sub-title: solid bricks*/
h3 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid colored bricks*/

And an inside page might be...?

p.tagline {font-size: 100% } /*source document title: solid bricks*/
h1{font-size: 125%} /*sub: solid colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid umber colored bricks*/
h3 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid burnt sienna colored bricks*/
h4 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid sienna colored bricks*/
h5 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid dark ochre colored bricks*/
h6 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid ochre colored bricks*/

Best,
Vincent




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Re: [css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread Jack Timmons
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Giles, Sarah
 wrote:
> I am working on a large site with some designers.
> I have been told to have the h1 tags below the h2 and h3 tags because they 
> want the headlines that are lower on the page to be larger and more important 
> then the ones higher up.

"Important" is biased.

CSS lets you change styles so h6 tags look infinitely bigger than h1's
if you want.

> I think I will still encapsulate this part of the site in a div so as not to 
> through off styles from the rest of the site. What do you guys think? Should 
> what tags should I use. The style they want the tags to be is styled h1 for 
> the site they think (they are having trouble nailing down a style guide for 
> this project)

I would politely suggest the "strong copy" approach, if you think
they'll eat up buzzwords. Multiple h1 tags will be seen as too many
book titles when they should just be chapters. That's perhaps one use
this CSS thing: to style down the h1's if they want and blow up the
h3's.

Of course, that's for us snooty CSS users. While the question of
markup may or may not apply here, the topic of CSS does, in which case
you can say "It doesn't matter what tags we use, CSS will let us make
it look the way we want to. So let's take the sane/questionable/crazy
method of ..." and apply your own ending as desired.

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Re: [css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread Tim Arnold
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Giles, Sarah
wrote:

> I am working on a large site with some designers.
> I have been told to have the h1 tags below the h2 and h3 tags because they
> want the headlines that are lower on the page to be larger and more
> important then the ones higher up.
>
> I think I will still encapsulate this part of the site in a div so as not
> to through off styles from the rest of the site. What do you guys think?
> Should what tags should I use. The style they want the tags to be is styled
> h1 for the site they think (they are having trouble nailing down a style
> guide for this project)
>
> Sarah Giles
>

Hey Sarah,

The beauty of CSS is that you can style your H2s to be larger than your
H1s.  Never pick an HTML tag because of how it looks, pick it because of
what it means.  You should always use a good semantic structure and that
means a single H1 per page (unless you're using html5 doctype) with H2s
below that in the *structure of the content*, and H3s subordinate to the
H2s, etc.

-Tim

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[css-d] H tags and style

2010-11-22 Thread Giles, Sarah
I am working on a large site with some designers.
I have been told to have the h1 tags below the h2 and h3 tags because they want 
the headlines that are lower on the page to be larger and more important then 
the ones higher up.

I think I will still encapsulate this part of the site in a div so as not to 
through off styles from the rest of the site. What do you guys think? Should 
what tags should I use. The style they want the tags to be is styled h1 for the 
site they think (they are having trouble nailing down a style guide for this 
project)

Sarah Giles
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