Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-24 Thread francky
cj wrote:

>[...]
>i can think of a couple ways, neither of them pretty.  css is meant to
>cascade (hence the name!), so resetting an area of the page isn't
>built in.
>
>1. [...]
>
>2. [...]
>  
>
Hi Les,
And ... maybe, maybe ... I was thinking ... escaping the cascade ... you 
need a kinda hole in the page, through which nobody can see your css or 
html ... so if the hole is an IFRAME, with a link to the client's home 
styled page?

Success and greetings,
francky

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Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-24 Thread cj
[i assume this was for the list, so i'm replying back on-list for the archives.]

On 10/23/06, Les Mizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cj wrote:
> > if i'm reading you right, you're asking "how do i reset all styling
> > for this  so the customer has a "clean slate"?".
>
> I have a CSS file I use for every single site that sets all attributes
> to a default "starting" value that I then work from, but this would be
> different - it need to set everything to a "default" value - basically
> making it appear as if no CSS has been applied to a HTML document.
>
> So, basically this:
>
> #noCSS A:link {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
> #noCSS H1 {font-weight:bold;font-size:26pt;}
> #noCSS H2 {font-weight:bold;font-size:20pt;}
> #noCSS H3 {font-weight:bold;font-size:14pt;}
> #noCSS H4 {font-weight:bold;font-size:12pt;}
> #noCSS H5 {font-weight:bold;font-size:10pt;}
> #noCSS H6 {font-weight:bold;font-size:8pt;}
> #noCSS B, STRONG {font-weight:bold;}
> #noCSS #noCSS I, #noCSS EM, #noCSS CITE, #noCSS DFN, #noCSS VAR
> {font-style:italic;}
> #noCSS U, #noCSS INS {text-decoration:underline;}
> #noCSS S, #noCSS STRIKE, #noCSS DEL {text-decoration:line-through;}
> #noCSS SMALL {font-size:smaller}
> #noCSS BIG {font-size:larger}
> #noCSS ADDRESS {font-style:italic}
> #noCSS PRE {font-family:courier}
>
>
> OK - but what if there's a font-size defined somewhere up in the page
> for all paragraphs. How to avoid that getting inherited into the "noCSS"
> div?

i can think of a couple ways, neither of them pretty.  css is meant to
cascade (hence the name!), so resetting an area of the page isn't
built in.

1. pick a browser you like and grab their css rules for the elements
that the browser styles with absolutely no code from you.  go through
that file and basically do a smart copy/paste into your css for this
area.

2.  have absolutely no css that you code yourself applies to this no
css part.  by this i mean that every other thing you want to style on
the page that could possibly overlap with the nocss part needs to be
explicitly named so that you can access it by class (or id) name in
your css file.  this might give you a lot of extra classes, but it
will keep that nocss part clear of any styling you have personally
done.

i think the second one there is better because all browsers style
elements differently, and that option allows the browsers to continue
doing so.

hth.
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Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread cj
if i'm reading you right, you're asking "how do i reset all styling
for this  so the customer has a "clean slate"?".

if i got that right, in your style sheet you'll have to do a "reset"
where you set the margin, border, width, etc back to "normal".  this
could either be 0, "auto", or "none", depending on the property.  for
example if you wanted to negate any border the  might have, do a
"border: none;".  then make sure that whatever the client is styling
has a higher specificity than your reset styles.
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Re: [css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread Michael Stevens
I need a define an area on a page where dynamic data will be displayed where
CSS defined for that page has NO EFFECT on the area at all.

Basically inside a highly styled page:



Anything the client want goes here,
   formatted however the heck the client
   wants formatted - total control up to the client.



Ideas?

--

I'm new to the list as of today so if my thoughts are retarded please be
kind... :)

Does your client know how to design the content? That is, can they code HTML
& CSS? If so I would think the easiest way would be just like above and make
the client design their own style sheet that you could link secondarily.
They would have to know that all their content stylization needs to be
preceded by the #noCSS id.

Just a thought...

Mike

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[css-d] How to define a section on a page where CSS has ZERO effect?

2006-10-23 Thread Les Mizzell

I need a define an area on a page where dynamic data will be displayed 
where CSS defined for that page has NO EFFECT on the area at all.

Basically inside a highly styled page:




Anything the client want goes here,
   formatted however the heck the client
   wants formatted - total control up to the client.





Ideas?
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