[css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread mem
This a little of topic, but still css related. :)

I'm desperate. :)

Indeed.

Any known way to force the browser to not use compatibility mode at all ? 
(without going to each bad browser users and yelling at them that, despite not 
being there fault on such a stupid decision, they still shouldn't use it) ?

:)


k. regards,
mem
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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Won't the correct DTD (e.g., HTML 4.01 Strict) accomplish that ?

mem wrote:

This a little of topic, but still css related. :)

I'm desperate. :)

Indeed.

Any known way to force the browser to not use compatibility mode at all ? 
(without going to each bad browser users and yelling at them that, despite not 
being there fault on such a stupid decision, they still shouldn't use it) ?

:)


k. regards,
mem
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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread mem
On Jan 13, 2012, at 10:43 , Philip TAYLOR wrote:

 Won't the correct DTD (e.g., HTML 4.01 Strict) accomplish that ?


Arrgh! My bad. I'm talking about an HTML5 page.

Something like this seems to help, but I've seen a lot of comments telling 
that, that isn't applied on all users. 

meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge 




 
 mem wrote:
 This a little of topic, but still css related. :)
 
 I'm desperate. :)
 
 Indeed.
 
 Any known way to force the browser to not use compatibility mode at all ? 
 (without going to each bad browser users and yelling at them that, despite 
 not being there fault on such a stupid decision, they still shouldn't use 
 it) ?
 
 :)
 
 
 k. regards,
 mem
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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Ah, can't help you there.  From a purely personal perspective,
I see no point in using HTML 5 until there is a formal, ratified,
W3C specification for it, rather than (as at present) a work in
progress, intend[ed] to replace HTML 3.2, HTML 4, and XHTML 1.x. [1]

Philip Taylor

[1] http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Specifications, from
[2] http://www.w3.org/html/, from
[3] http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/htmlcss, from
[4] http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/, from
[5] http://www.w3.org/standards/, from
[6] http://www.w3.org/, root.

mem wrote:

On Jan 13, 2012, at 10:43 , Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Won't the correct DTD (e.g., HTML 4.01 Strict) accomplish that ?



Arrgh! My bad. I'm talking about an HTML5 page.

Something like this seems to help, but I've seen a lot of comments telling 
that, that isn't applied on all users.

meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge

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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jan 13, 2012, at 7:52 PM, mem wrote:

 Something like this seems to help, but I've seen a lot of comments telling 
 that, that isn't applied on all users. 
 
 meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge 

it is supposed to work, according to the MS docs

or, if you're on apache 2, stick this in your .htaccess file or your apache 
config:

Header set X-UA-Compatible IE=Edge

hasn't failed for me. yet.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread mem
On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:01 , Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

 
 On Jan 13, 2012, at 7:52 PM, mem wrote:
 
 Something like this seems to help, but I've seen a lot of comments telling 
 that, that isn't applied on all users. 
 
 meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge 
 
 it is supposed to work, according to the MS docs
 
 or, if you're on apache 2, stick this in your .htaccess file or your apache 
 config:
 
 Header set X-UA-Compatible IE=Edge
 
 hasn't failed for me. yet.


Ahhh .htaccess file. Seems to be the right place to go for such a bad behavior. 

I will use that indeed. Thanks a lot.

m.
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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread HallMarc Sales
 Any known way to force the browser to not use compatibility mode at all ?
 (without going to each bad browser users and yelling at them that, despite
 not being there fault on such a stupid decision, they still shouldn't use
it) ?
 
Use meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge  and this will
keep the Compatibility button from appearing in the browser address bar.
While true that anyone that knows how can hit F12 and start the Developer
window which allows them to switch document modes; I wouldn't worry.  
[] 
As far as HTML5 usage; using what is currently available or not is up to
you. Here is what I know, 
HTML5 is still in Draft form and so is HTML Living Standard
HTML5 is expected to reach the Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012. I
had read that this would actually be 2022 and based on noises by Adobe about
parts like canvas which threaten Flash to some degree and the fact that
this is such a big project, like CSS3, that I expect we will continue to see
parts hit CR/browser support. Now, because it is still in draft it means
that using it on production sites is a gamble. One may find themselves
suddenly needing to go back and rewrite their sites (the amount would depend
on how many sites you have used said draft for) because the spec they used
was completely dropped. FWIW and IMHO if the major browsers are supporting
it and it is widely used then the chances of it being completely dropped are
near 0. 

I too, had decided that I would avoid using HTML5 while in draft until I
realized that in doing so I was leaving myself and my services stuck in the
past. My Golden Rule for anything web related is this: If it isn't supported
by the major browsers then it doesn't exist yet. I use the sites below to
check if something I might want to use is fully supported yet:
[] 
http://html5readiness.com/ 
http://www.css3.info 



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Re: [css-d] IE Compatibility mode - forced to not appear

2012-01-13 Thread HallMarc Sales
I forgot to mention this site http://caniuse.com/ 

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