Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
jordan WOLLMAN wrote: I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features, but can't find any information on it to save my life. Anyone got any idea when/who/where/anything else relevant? Short answer: nothing soon. Recent W3C CSS work has been on CSS 2.1, which will be published in the next few weeks. This is an update to 2.0 which serves to tighten up the spec, removing many ambiguities. It clarifies rather than introduces new function. It is a version where the technical gurus behind each of the major browsers have been deeply involved in getting the spec right. After it's published, I imagine a period of several months as newer versions of browsers come into conformance with the spec. Only after 2.1 publishes will work resume on CSS 3. Version 3 is modular and none of the modules are yet well defined for publishing let alone implementation. My personal estimate is 18-24 months before seeing any notable CSS 3 implementations. -- Bob Easton - W3C CSS Working Group member Accessibility Matters: http://access-matters.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
IE7 will support a bunch of CSS3 stuff, more than Firefox currently supports (although at the moment as far as I can see CSS3 is not yet finalised so stuff is due to change). How good IE's implementation will be remains to be seen. Nonetheless hopefully it will light the fire under Mozilla and Opera, I would love to be able to use nth-child selectors. Oh and min-height, min-width! http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/compatibility/ jordan WOLLMAN wrote: I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features, but can't find any information on it to save my life. Anyone got any idea when/who/where/anything else relevant? Sincerely, JordanWOLLMAN __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
Rudolf Vavruch wrote: IE7 will support a bunch of CSS3 stuff Do you have a source on that? The last thing I remember reading about it was on Chris Wilson's (the lead program manager for the web platform in IE) stating in his blog: By contrast, vague demands for open-ended standards support, or requests for various standards that arent (yet, at least) standards (there is no CSS3 standard yet, nor is XUL a standard), dont really help us drive our development very much. [1] Which I take to mean they won't be implementing any/much CSS3 stuff and certainly not more than Firefox currently supports. I may be wrong though - that entry was from March and I haven't been following things very closely recently. [1] http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/03/09/391362.aspx __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
On 6/1/05, Rudolf Vavruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE7 will support a bunch of CSS3 stuff, more than Firefox currently supports (although at the moment as far as I can see CSS3 is not yet finalised so stuff is due to change). ... http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/compatibility/ Dean's script should not be confused with IE7 by Microsoft. There hardly will be any CSS enchancements in it. So far I am aware only on png alpha transparency support and tabs. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
Thanks everyone for your replies and thoughts on the next version of CSS. I was hoping for a Hey look, CSS3 is out, let's all start supporting it kind of answer... But hey, when have browsers ever lived up to my personal wants? Still looking forward to Alpha transparency in IE7. That'd make my life much easier. Sincerely, Jordan WOLLMAN // Ariamedia Corporation Creative Director __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
On Jun 1, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Rudolf Vavruch wrote: Damn. False alarm, sorry. After looking deeper I figured out Dean Edwards isn't actually working on the real IE7, but his own extension. I was so excited I suppose I didn't check. Is my face red and now the my dreams of coding CSS without hacks is shattered. Double damn. That's actually what Dean Edwards' IE7 is suppose to do, eliminate the need for IE specific hacks. You've read the compatibility page so you have an idea but you should take a read of the overview page. It'll tell you really what it's for. Mike Stickel Screenflicker Developments www.screenflicker.com p: 403-923-7667 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
Cool. Do you, or anyone here use it? This doesn't sound so hot: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2004/11/23/268662.aspx#269183 Mike Stickel wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Rudolf Vavruch wrote: Damn. False alarm, sorry. After looking deeper I figured out Dean Edwards isn't actually working on the real IE7, but his own extension. I was so excited I suppose I didn't check. Is my face red and now the my dreams of coding CSS without hacks is shattered. Double damn. That's actually what Dean Edwards' IE7 is suppose to do, eliminate the need for IE specific hacks. You've read the compatibility page so you have an idea but you should take a read of the overview page. It'll tell you really what it's for. Mike Stickel Screenflicker Developments www.screenflicker.com p: 403-923-7667 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features, but can't find any information on it to save my life. Anyone got any idea when/who/where/anything else relevant? Sincerely, JordanWOLLMAN __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
On 5/31/05, jordan WOLLMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features, but can't find any information on it to save my life. http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
RE: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features Don't forget though, new features are only as good as the amount of browsers supporting them. - Leszek http://leszek.swirski.co.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
RE: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
From: jordan WOLLMAN I've heard a lot of rumor of a newer version of CSS on the horizon with a lot of really neat new features, but can't find any information on it to save my life. W3C site is a good place to start looking. http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/#specs Browser support (lack of) will most likely to be a bigger roadblock to implementing CSS3 than any delay in finalising and releasing the recommendation though. We still can't usefully use parts of CSS2. -- Peter Williams __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OT When is the next version of CSS?
Peter Williams wrote: We still can't usefully use parts of CSS2. We still can't usefully use parts of CSS1, either. background-attachment? -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
