Re: [css-d] Opinions on Three CSS3 Books

[Rick Gordon]

Cederholm's is nice because it is available (multiple-format download at a 
single price) in an iBooks-enhanced version that uses video to display the 
intended look of various elements, where a progression of states can be shown.

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On 8/30/11 at 5:02 PM -0500, Christopher Akins wrote in a message entitled
"[css-d] Opinions on Three CSS3 Books":

>Looking at a few CSS3 books and wondered if any on here have read/used
>them.  If so, what is your opinion?
>
>1) Stunning CSS3: A project-based guide to the latest in CSS (Gillenwater -
>Voices That Matter) - nearly 5 stars on Amazon, but that's only 11 reviews
>2) Handcrafted CSS: More Bulletproof Web Design (Cederholm & Marcotte - New
>Riders) - 5 starts on Amazon, 14 reviews
>3) CSS3 for Web Designers (Cederholm - A Book Apart) - can't find many
>reviews, though the ones I found are positive, not available on Amazon

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Re: [css-d] Opinions on Three CSS3 Books

[david]

Christopher Akins wrote:

Looking at a few CSS3 books and wondered if any on here have read/used
them.  If so, what is your opinion?

1) Stunning CSS3: A project-based guide to the latest in CSS (Gillenwater -
Voices That Matter) - nearly 5 stars on Amazon, but that's only 11 reviews
2) Handcrafted CSS: More Bulletproof Web Design (Cederholm & Marcotte - New
Riders) - 5 starts on Amazon, 14 reviews
3) CSS3 for Web Designers (Cederholm - A Book Apart) - can't find many
reviews, though the ones I found are positive, not available on Amazon


I'd pick #2 or 3, just cuz I think very highly of Mr Cederholm's 
Bulletproof Web Design.


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Re: [css-d] Opinions on Three CSS3 Books

[Tom Livingston]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Christopher Akins  wrote:
> Looking at a few CSS3 books and wondered if any on here have read/used
> them.  If so, what is your opinion?
>
> 1) Stunning CSS3: A project-based guide to the latest in CSS (Gillenwater -
> Voices That Matter) - nearly 5 stars on Amazon, but that's only 11 reviews
> 2) Handcrafted CSS: More Bulletproof Web Design (Cederholm & Marcotte - New
> Riders) - 5 starts on Amazon, 14 reviews
> 3) CSS3 for Web Designers (Cederholm - A Book Apart) - can't find many
> reviews, though the ones I found are positive, not available on Amazon
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christopher A.
> City of Springfield, MO
> Web Coordinator


IMHO, all are excellent.

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[css-d] Opinions on Three CSS3 Books

[Christopher Akins]

Looking at a few CSS3 books and wondered if any on here have read/used
them.  If so, what is your opinion?

1) Stunning CSS3: A project-based guide to the latest in CSS (Gillenwater -
Voices That Matter) - nearly 5 stars on Amazon, but that's only 11 reviews
2) Handcrafted CSS: More Bulletproof Web Design (Cederholm & Marcotte - New
Riders) - 5 starts on Amazon, 14 reviews
3) CSS3 for Web Designers (Cederholm - A Book Apart) - can't find many
reviews, though the ones I found are positive, not available on Amazon

Thanks,

Christopher A.
City of Springfield, MO
Web Coordinator
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Re: [css-d] Opinions on Yahoo CSS grid builder

[christianz]

"IMO, the resulting YUI grid constructions are less practical than
nested-table constructions. That in addition to the fact that I don't
like 'locked em-sizing' in web design, means I'll never use or recommend
the grid builder."

Maybe they can take your suggestions and make it better.
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Re: [css-d] opinions: horizontal vs vertical menus

[Rafael]

Roger Keays wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here are some thoughts from my blog @
> http://www.sunburnt.com.au/publications/design/horizontal-vs-vertical-menus
>   
[...]
>  * Being evenly distributed across the page, they create balance 
> which makes you feel good :)
>  * They make better use of space as there is no vacuum below the 
> menu which is common with vertical menus.
>  * It's easier to read horizontally than vertically.
>  * It's easier to move mouse side to side than vertically.
>  * Submenus are easier to access as they have a larger area for the 
> mouse to enter.
>  * As people are generally lazy, the shorter menu items more common 
> in horizontal menus are easier to read.
>
> What do you think?
>   
Well... what about adding the same menu in both the vertical and 
horizontal version so we can compare and see your points clearly? I 
think I understand what you mean, it somehow feels "unnatural" the 
movement you must do to chose an option, but I think this issue remains 
whether is a vertical or an horizontal menu, since we use the same 
pattern, we just change how do we start (vertical - [horizontal - 
vertical] / [horizontal - vertical] - horizontal).

By the way, how come your comments _require_ JS to work? When 
disabled, you don't provide the text-boxes neither a message to your users.
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Re: [css-d] opinions: horizontal vs vertical menus

[David Laakso]

Roger Keays wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here are some thoughts from my blog @
> http://www.sunburnt.com.au/publications/design/horizontal-vs-vertical-menus
>
> Just yesterday I had a request from a customer to build a vertical menu 
> down the side of the page in their design. I've always had a strong 
> preference for horizontal menus, but have never really known exactly 
> why. When trying to disuade my customer she naturally asked me this 
> question: why?
>
> Well, now I've thought about it I've come to the conclusion that there 
> are some good reasons to go horizontal instead of vertical. Here are mine:
>
>  * Being evenly distributed across the page, they create balance 
> which makes you feel good :)
>  * They make better use of space as there is no vacuum below the 
> menu which is common with vertical menus.
>  * It's easier to read horizontally than vertically.
>  * It's easier to move mouse side to side than vertically.
>  * Submenus are easier to access as they have a larger area for the 
> mouse to enter.
>  * As people are generally lazy, the shorter menu items more common 
> in horizontal menus are easier to read.
>
> What do you think?
>
>   


I think this is a matter of opinion and personal preference: that is. of 
course, unless you can prove with hard science that one is better than 
the other.

Did you have a CSS question?

Best,

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[css-d] opinions: horizontal vs vertical menus

[Roger Keays]

Hi all,

Here are some thoughts from my blog @
http://www.sunburnt.com.au/publications/design/horizontal-vs-vertical-menus

Just yesterday I had a request from a customer to build a vertical menu 
down the side of the page in their design. I've always had a strong 
preference for horizontal menus, but have never really known exactly 
why. When trying to disuade my customer she naturally asked me this 
question: why?

Well, now I've thought about it I've come to the conclusion that there 
are some good reasons to go horizontal instead of vertical. Here are mine:

 * Being evenly distributed across the page, they create balance 
which makes you feel good :)
 * They make better use of space as there is no vacuum below the 
menu which is common with vertical menus.
 * It's easier to read horizontally than vertically.
 * It's easier to move mouse side to side than vertically.
 * Submenus are easier to access as they have a larger area for the 
mouse to enter.
 * As people are generally lazy, the shorter menu items more common 
in horizontal menus are easier to read.

What do you think?

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Re: [css-d] Opinions

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Luis Speciale wrote:
> ~davidLaakso a écrit :
> [trimmed]
>> No big deal, if it is of any concern, the page appears to be usable 
>> but not rendering as intended at smaller screen resolutions in IE 
>> win/2k.
>> A bunch of screen captures:
>> 
>>
>>   
> I saw this captures. It seems that he ignores the body tag ? I think I 
> need a PC with IE 5.5
>
>
This is in reference to uri:  ; and your 
question sent to me off-list.
I do not know what is bugging ie win/2k, or how to fix it. Perhaps 
someone else will pick up this thread and provide an answer.
>
> Luis
>
Regards,
~dL

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Re: [css-d] Opinions

[~davidLaakso]

Luis Speciale wrote:
> I'm working on a site
>  and I would like to know what experts think.
> I'ts my (totally) first site.
> Any comments or suggestions will be apreciated.
>
> Luis
No expert here-- just another bozo on the bus. Anyway, you are doing 
well, and a nice visual to boot, Luis. Something you may want to 
consider is that it is a little brittle-- many pages are experiencing 
float drop in IE at text-size largest; and, on the first zoom click in 
the Gecko browsers. The crossover on zoom may be somewhat unavoidable 
due to some very long words. It would be good idea to add a 
background-color for your page (not everyone defaults to #FFF). No big 
deal, if it is of any concern, the page appears to be usable but not 
rendering as intended at smaller screen resolutions in IE win/2k.
A bunch of screen captures:

Best,
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Re: [css-d] Opinions

[Luis Speciale]

Raoul Snyman a écrit :
>
> Let me just warn you that there are a couple of people on this list who
> are less than nice when it comes to sites. Don't worry about what they
> say, they're just being normal... I think there's something wrong with them.
>   
I'm not afraid !-)
> Anyways... back to your site...
>
> it doesn't seem to be loading the stylesheets... :-(
>   
A question of laziness. I put the CSS twice because I get the CSSs paths 
via a PHP variable. I will remove that for the release.
> also, it might be worth your while to look at this article:
> http://www.websitewriters.co.za/xhtml/2006-03-28/the-long-lost-multi-column-layout/
>   
I did it. As I can understand, it talks about accessibility. I need to 
read it again. This week-end may be.
> Hope this helps!
>   
I'ts great to hear about your work when you work alone as I do. Opens 
your mind.

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Re: [css-d] Opinions

[Luis Speciale]

Christian Heilmann a écrit :
> That looks very nice. I am a bit confused about the navigation though.
I am a bit confused too !-)
>
> What is the point of repeating the main navigation on secondary pages
> on the left rather than showing the second level menu?
>
It tries to be a breadcrumb. But I'know that it do not works like I want.
As I begin to understand, designing sites i'ts more complicated than 
print design
because you must think also about time or path of the visitor !-)

Thank you for your feedback.

Luis
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Re: [css-d] Opinions

[Ian Young]

> Subject: [css-d] Opinions
>
>
> Hi ;
>
> I'm working on a site
>
> http://box.ad-rh.com/adrh/
>
> and I would like to know what experts think.
> I'ts my (totally) first site.
> Any comments or suggestions will be apreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Luis


Site looks good - I guess it is a site pitched at recruitment from the
English version (although you need to address the translation which is not
correct).

On the design side, it would benefit greatly from the three columns being of
equal length.

regards

Ian
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Re: [css-d] Opinions

[Dave Goodchild]

A beautiful first effort. Amazing if this is your first css site. Validates,
clean, great!
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[css-d] Opinions

[Luis Speciale]

Hi ;

I'm working on a site

http://box.ad-rh.com/adrh/

and I would like to know what experts think.
I'ts my (totally) first site.
Any comments or suggestions will be apreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Luis




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