Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
http://www.ie6countdown.com/ Let IE6 die baby. Let it die. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 09:05, Christopher Wicklander elgueromer...@yahoo.com wrote: My .welcome div has a .png image that does not show correctly in IE 6. The angle I created is not there, well it's there just not the same. It's really not that big of a deal but after I added the .png fix to the div I lost the background color of the .welcome div. I was wondering if anyone had any input on this issue, thanks. Christopher All motion is perpetual, he moved away by standing still. In the Land of the Blind, the One Eyed Man is King. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Boray Eris www.pidizayn.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
Michael Adams wrote: On Saturday 09 July 2011 04:49, david wrote: And we've been through this before. My employer uses IE6 for its 1600+ employees. We do this because some of our mission-critical corporate web apps don't work in anything except IE6 (including newer versions of IE). And for solutions to *YOUR* CSS issues - of which there will be many: Install another browser beside IE in your industry. Firefox, Chrome, Opera or Safari - i don't care. We have Firefox 3 for browsing YouTube (where we have a channel). When they installed it, we were told that if we used it to browse the Internet, we would experience problems. (Yes, out of touch is one of their defining attributes.) Mark all your mission critical apps as legacy and start seeking replacements ASAP. Easy for you to say. You're talking about very large, very complex apps that cost lots of money and 2-3 years of hard work even to upgrade, let alone replace. It's not like general office software et al; there aren't a lot of replacements. Prevent IE from accessing through the corporate firewall because it is an inherent security threat. We have several layers of security beyond mere firewalls. I've worked there 4 years so far. During that time, we've had only 2 bits of maliciousness get through - and those were when executive MS Outlook users were using their laptops at home (outside of the defenses) and clicked on links in spam emails ... Those bits didn't successfully infect any other corporate systems when the executives came back to the office and hooked into the network. Like security issues of Windows XP, those of IE6 can be managed. Perhaps pinhole the firewall for any external servers that run your mission critical apps on. Our mission critical apps are not accessible from outside. To do anything less could put your corporate, employee and customer data at risk because the Trident engine was seriously flawed. True, it is. It is also one where the security risks are pretty well known and can be protected against. Personally, I think Flash and PDF have more, and more are being discovered all the time. This is a serious issue that should be given a high priority corporate wide. Everything's more important than everything else. I'll leave the last word on this to Microsoft. http://www.ie6countdown.com/ Yep, the IS folk that handle this are aware of it. I've no idea what they'll do if XP is discontinued! -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] PNG IE 6
My .welcome div has a .png image that does not show correctly in IE 6. The angle I created is not there, well it's there just not the same. It's really not that big of a deal but after I added the .png fix to the div I lost the background color of the .welcome div. I was wondering if anyone had any input on this issue, thanks. Christopher All motion is perpetual, he moved away by standing still. In the Land of the Blind, the One Eyed Man is King. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Christopher Wicklander elgueromer...@yahoo.com wrote: My .welcome div has a .png image that does not show correctly in IE 6. The angle I created is not there, well it's there just not the same. It's really not that big of a deal but after I added the .png fix to the div I lost the background color of the .welcome div. I was wondering if anyone had any input on this issue, thanks. Christopher What fix are you using? I use the DD_Belated.js from: http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/ never had an issue with i, and it works on BG images. A link to your page would be easier for listers to troubleshoot. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
Developers *used* to ask Can we stop supporting IE6 now? Now we've reached the point were continuing to support IE6 is a mistake, and bad for the community as a whole. The handful of lagging users who still cling to this antiquated platform need a wake-up call. They need a slap on the keyboard rather than a holding hand. Continued support for IE6 is counterproductive--a bad strategy for the community at large. -- /* Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh --oO0 Have code will travel */ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
On 7/8/11 8:26 AM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: Continued support for IE6 is counterproductive--a bad strategy for the community at large. *True* [but then one does not /always/ have that choice nor call to make...]! Best, Bill, Melinda, and Bono for U2 -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
On 7/8/2011 8:26 AM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: Developers *used* to ask Can we stop supporting IE6 now? Now we've reached the point were continuing to support IE6 is a mistake, and bad for the community as a whole. The handful of lagging users who still cling to this antiquated platform need a wake-up call. They need a slap on the keyboard rather than a holding hand. Continued support for IE6 is counterproductive--a bad strategy for the community at large. Verizon is selling revamped wifi capable KIN (Kin One-m Kin Two-m) phones as advanced feature (almost smart) phones that don't require a data plan. They are selling like mad. The web browser in them is based on IE 6. Just sayin'... __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: Developers *used* to ask Can we stop supporting IE6 now? Now we've reached the point were continuing to support IE6 is a mistake, and bad for the community as a whole. The handful of lagging users who still cling to this antiquated platform need a wake-up call. They need a slap on the keyboard rather than a holding hand. Continued support for IE6 is counterproductive--a bad strategy for the community at large. And we've been through this before. My employer uses IE6 for its 1600+ employees. We do this because some of our mission-critical corporate web apps don't work in anything except IE6 (including newer versions of IE). Why do corporate folk stick with old browsers? Because their bugs and limitations are known and don't change. Developers can focus on the web app itself instead of figuring out some new bug that appeared in some still-being-updated more modern browser. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
On 8 July 2011 11:49, david gn...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote: Developers *used* to ask Can we stop supporting IE6 now? Now we've reached the point were continuing to support IE6 is a mistake, and bad for the community as a whole. The handful of lagging users who still cling to this antiquated platform need a wake-up call. They need a slap on the keyboard rather than a holding hand. Continued support for IE6 is counterproductive--a bad strategy for the community at large. And we've been through this before. My employer uses IE6 for its 1600+ employees. We do this because some of our mission-critical corporate web apps don't work in anything except IE6 (including newer versions of IE). Also, for the month of June, NetMarketShare is still showing over 10% of browsers are IE6, probably related to the fact that over 50% of the OSes are WinXP and a lot of those people (1) don't know how to install a browser, and/or (2) don't run (for whatever reason) Windows Updates. And some of that over 10% is undoubtedly due to employers like David's. Does a business want to dismiss that large a segment of potential customers? -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] PNG IE 6
On Saturday 09 July 2011 04:49, david wrote: And we've been through this before. My employer uses IE6 for its 1600+ employees. We do this because some of our mission-critical corporate web apps don't work in anything except IE6 (including newer versions of IE). And for solutions to *YOUR* CSS issues - of which there will be many: Install another browser beside IE in your industry. Firefox, Chrome, Opera or Safari - i don't care. Mark all your mission critical apps as legacy and start seeking replacements ASAP. Prevent IE from accessing through the corporate firewall because it is an inherent security threat. Perhaps pinhole the firewall for any external servers that run your mission critical apps on. To do anything less could put your corporate, employee and customer data at risk because the Trident engine was seriously flawed. This is a serious issue that should be given a high priority corporate wide. I'll leave the last word on this to Microsoft. http://www.ie6countdown.com/ -- Michael __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
