Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn - Round #2

2008-10-28 Thread Nancy Johnson
The height issue is definitely fixed in IE6.

The entity issue is only an issue in the address line, but is not an
issue in the times that the restaurant is open, yet uses some of the
same bullets.  Can you use the same coding for the bullets in the
address line that you use in the times that the restaurant is open
line?

Nancy

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIindex.html
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIdining.html


 http://www.fatpawdesign.com


 1/ Dunno. Clear the cache? No got Avant here.  I do not see the large
  gap you mention in any of my XP or Mac OS X 10.4.11 browsers.

 Avant uses existing Trident (MSIE) - the IE7 version in this case.
 Check in IE7 - big gaps.

 Declare...
 #bottomnav {height: 1%;}
 ...directly - no '* html' hack - and Avant/IE7 will behave itself.

 You can then delete the '* html #bottomnav' below '#bottomnav '.

 regards
Georg
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 http://www.gunlaug.no
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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn - Round #2

2008-10-28 Thread wwwebpro
Hi Peter,
I clicked through the links on your site and found a malformed tag at  
the bottom of the page in the menu section.
http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIfoodmenu.html
It says clearboth at the bottom of the page. Thought you might want  
to know.
Cheers,
Tracey

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 David Laakso wrote:
 Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIindex.html
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIdining.html


 http://www.fatpawdesign.com


 1/ Dunno. Clear the cache? No got Avant here.  I do not see the large
 gap you mention in any of my XP or Mac OS X 10.4.11 browsers.

 Avant uses existing Trident (MSIE) - the IE7 version in this case.
 Check in IE7 - big gaps.

 Declare...
 #bottomnav {height: 1%;}
 ...directly - no '* html' hack - and Avant/IE7 will behave itself.

 You can then delete the '* html #bottomnav' below '#bottomnav '.

 regards
   Georg
 -- 
 http://www.gunlaug.no



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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn - Round #2

2008-10-27 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith
- Original Message - 
From: David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn

 Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIindex.html
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIdining.html


 In addition to comments from Nancy Johnson and Kelly Sigethy, David Laakso 
 wrote:

 I hope this will bring IE/6 on board and level out some compliant browsers 
 issues

 /snip a bunch of implemented code/

 * html #bottomnav {
  height: 1%;---:: add::
 border:1px solid fuchsia;---:: 4 position only::
 }
 /snip a bunch of other implemented code/

Thanks to everyone for the site check. I knew I was in trouble this morning 
when I checked the site at work on Win2K/IE6. Uggh. Hence, I have made the 
recommended changes and revalidated the lot. Avant was showing the 
decapitated text last night, the line-height fix resolves that. Also, I'm 
not killing anything at +/-2 page and +/-2 text zoom in FF3.0.3 (sounds like 
I am using a Lee-Enfield). A few further issues/questions/comments:

1. In Avant, I am getting a large gap between the #bottomnav and the 
#footer, like the large top-margin of the nav is being applied to the footer 
as well.
2. For my edification, does the border: solid 1px fuchsia; in the * html 
bottomnav declaration actually force something into position, or is it just 
a marker? It is not visible in any of my browsers.
3. My WinXP/IE8 nor Win2K/IE6 do not render the *there4;* (or *#8756;*) 
character entity. I ran across an article by Jukka Korpela that seems to 
confirm this issue with math entities (among others). Any suggestions 
besides picking one that works or using an image in its place?
4. Regarding the non-working links on the banquet page; yes, I knew those 
were dead. I have to convert an extensive written food menu and booking 
contract into something web post-able.

Thanks again, and bottom posting as always,

Peter
www.fatpawdesign.com
developing in: WinXP/SP2 + FF3.0.3 at 1024x768 and 1280x1024
checking in: IE8.0beta/O9.61/Av11.6/Cr0.2/Orca1.1
In God we trust, all else bring data... 

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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn - Round #2

2008-10-27 Thread David Laakso
   Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:

 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIindex.html
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIdining.html


 http://www.fatpawdesign.com


1/ Dunno. Clear the cache? No got Avant here.  I do not see the large gap
you mention in any of my XP or Mac OS X 10.4.11 browsers.

2/ * html (star html) preceding a selector is a hack to feed a specific rule
to IE/6 and down; consequently, the border will only be seen if you are
viewing the page in IE/6, IE/5.5, or IE5.01. The purpose of the border (a
background color could have been used instead) is to see if the correct
selector has been targeted and that its position has in fact been corrected
in IE/6, IE/5.5, or IE5.01. The border can then be deleted.

3/ Might be easier for patrons of the restaurant to read if you spell that
stuff out line for line-- no (flaky, personal opinion) character entities
needed? Something like...

Address and Telephone Number:

4919 Highway 144
Hartford, Wisconsin 53027
262 644.4400

Open:

Monday through Thursday 3pm to 10pm
Friday and Saturday11am to 11pm
Sunday 11am to 9pm

We accept:

VISA, MC, AmEx, DISC
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Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: Cedar Lake Inn - Round #2

2008-10-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote:
 Peter Hyde-Smith wrote:
 
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIindex.html 
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com/CedarLakeInn/CLIdining.html
 
 
 http://www.fatpawdesign.com
 
 
 1/ Dunno. Clear the cache? No got Avant here.  I do not see the large
  gap you mention in any of my XP or Mac OS X 10.4.11 browsers.

Avant uses existing Trident (MSIE) - the IE7 version in this case.
Check in IE7 - big gaps.

Declare...
#bottomnav {height: 1%;}
...directly - no '* html' hack - and Avant/IE7 will behave itself.

You can then delete the '* html #bottomnav' below '#bottomnav '.

regards
Georg
-- 
http://www.gunlaug.no
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