[css-d] Stacking layers

2005-10-10 Thread Arno @ Raketnet
Here I am again with a problem!

I'm using the son of suckerfish menu.
First problem, of transparency background in the menu was solved thanks to
some good advise from the list (never mind that IE doesn't seem to support
png-24 format).

The menu functions ok, but now that I added content and the menu is opening
over the content, I can't access the opened part that's on the content. The
menu closes as soon as I hover to the part of the menu that's above the
content. I thought I could solve it with z-index and bring the menu on top,
but either I'm doing something wrong, or then it just doesn't work (FF).

The website:
www.poetryin-e-motion.com/test
The CSS:
www.poetryin-e-motion.com/test/scripts/sheet1.css

Advise greatly appreciated.

Arno

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Re: [css-d] Stacking layers

2005-10-10 Thread Derek de Jong

Arno @ Raketnet wrote:


Here I am again with a problem!

I'm using the son of suckerfish menu.
First problem, of transparency background in the menu was solved thanks to
some good advise from the list (never mind that IE doesn't seem to support
png-24 format).

 


I couldn't tell from the above whether you solved your transparency problem.

Take a look here: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp
Include the filter: for IE browsers, and it will properly load PNG-24 
with Alpha Trans. Problem is, the regular CSS has to be hidden from IE 
or it will actually load the background twice; either that, or you can 
look for a JavaScript solution that traverses the DOM and replaces any 
PNG references with the above filter. TMK, the above works with any IE 
w/ Direct-X installed (didn't consider whether it works on IE/Mac, but I 
suspect it would).


My suggestion, however, is that you get rid of the menu transparency, 
because the buttons which overlap the text are almost impossible to read.


Regards,
Derek
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Re: [css-d] Stacking layers

2005-10-10 Thread Scott Glasgow

Arno @ Raketnet wrote:

Here I am again with a problem!

I'm using the son of suckerfish menu.
First problem, of transparency background in the menu was solved
thanks to some good advise from the list (never mind that IE doesn't
seem to support png-24 format).

The menu functions ok, but now that I added content and the menu is
opening over the content, I can't access the opened part that's on
the content. The menu closes as soon as I hover to the part of the
menu that's above the content. I thought I could solve it with
z-index and bring the menu on top, but either I'm doing something
wrong, or then it just doesn't work (FF).

The website:
www.poetryin-e-motion.com/test
The CSS:
www.poetryin-e-motion.com/test/scripts/sheet1.css

Advise greatly appreciated.

Arno

::SNIP::

I only observe this in Firefox. In IE6, all menu items and sub-items are 
visible, although it has other issues (see below). In FF, moving below the 
second menu item in each main menu group causes the menu to go away. Opera 
functions as expected; all menu items and sub-items are visible and 
selectable.


That said, you have more serious issues, IMHO, in the distracting and 
unattractive flashing of the menu as the cursor moves over it (IE6, probably 
due to the alpha filter), and in the fact that your transparent menu items' 
text is unreadable due to bleed-through of the text below the menu (FF and 
Opera). Perhaps you might wish to use a different solution. Menu 
transparency is not necessarily a high-desirability characteristic, since 
the user attempting to select a menu item clearly does not care what exists 
behind the menu; he's on his way elsewhere anyway. Consider ditching the 
transparency.


Cheers,
Scott

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be 
done at all. - Peter F. Drucker 


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