Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-05 Thread David Hucklesby
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 21:40:12 +, Richard Brown wrote:
 Hi All

 Getting ambitious and needing a little bit of advice.
 http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/
[...]
 Could I set a min-width on the navigation columns, say 200px please? Do I 
 need to add
 some sort of declaration to get it to work in ie 6 please?


To get Internet Explorer versions earlier than 7 to apply min- and
max-widths, Georg Sørtun has a comprehensive article on the subject:

  http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html

I hope this helps.

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-05 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All

On 05/01/2008, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Getting ambitious and needing a little bit of advice.
  http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/
 [...]
  Could I set a min-width on the navigation columns, say 200px please? Do I 
  need to add
  some sort of declaration to get it to work in ie 6 please?
 
 To get Internet Explorer versions earlier than 7 to apply min- and
 max-widths, Georg Sørtun has a comprehensive article on the subject:

   http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html

Thanks for all the help. I chose to slightly alter the code. I went
down the road of one true layout and played with the columns. As far
as I can tell it now works. Except for the header. Why do I have a
large gap at the top in some browsers and none in others please?

Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-05 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/

as I can tell it now works. Except for the header. Why do I have a
large gap at the top in some browsers and none in others please?

Different implementations of escaping/collapsing margins. To eliminate the gap, 
set the top margin of your h1 element to zero. (This is one way to solve the 
problem, there are others). - 
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins

~holly 
 
   
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Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-05 Thread Richard Brown
Thanks for that Holly.

On 05/01/2008, Holly Bergevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/

 as I can tell it now works. Except for the header. Why do I have a
 large gap at the top in some browsers and none in others please?

 Different implementations of escaping/collapsing margins. To eliminate the 
 gap, set the top margin of your h1 element to zero. (This is one way to solve 
 the problem, there are others). - 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins

 ~holly





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[css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-04 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All

Getting ambitious and needing a little bit of advice.
http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/
http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/wp-content/themes/dejavu/style.css
The above is a three column site that has two navigational columns
floated left both with fixed width objects contained in. Navigation
elements in one and a gallery in another. I have tried to leave the
site as flexible width. However, I found that the side columns weren't
holding up because the elements contained in them were larger than the
width when viewed in a small monitor. So I have added min-width:
900px; to try to prevent this happening. 22% of 900px = 198px. I have
discovered that the site fails in IE 6. The columns end up merged
together.

I have several questions:
Is it better to stick with fixed with columns when using fixed width
elements please? I could always leave the content flexible. (if so has
anybody got a design I could look at to understand the code needed
please?)
Could I set a min-width on the navigation columns, say 200px please?
Do I need to add some sort of declaration to get it to work in ie 6 please?

Many thanks.
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Re: [css-d] Three Column advice needed

2008-01-04 Thread Highpowered
Richard Brown wrote:
 Hi All

 Getting ambitious and needing a little bit of advice.
 http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/
 http://dejavulostwithiel.co.uk/wp-content/themes/dejavu/style.css
 The above is a three column site that has two navigational columns
 floated left both with fixed width objects contained in. Navigation
 elements in one and a gallery in another. I have tried to leave the
 site as flexible width. However, I found that the side columns weren't
 holding up because the elements contained in them were larger than the
 width when viewed in a small monitor. So I have added min-width:
 900px; to try to prevent this happening. 22% of 900px = 198px. I have
 discovered that the site fails in IE 6. The columns end up merged
 together.

 I have several questions:
 Is it better to stick with fixed with columns when using fixed width
 elements please? I could always leave the content flexible. (if so has
 anybody got a design I could look at to understand the code needed
 please?)
 Could I set a min-width on the navigation columns, say 200px please?
 Do I need to add some sort of declaration to get it to work in ie 6 please?

 Many thanks.
   
IE6 doesn't understand min-width, rather, its width acts like a 
min-width due to its additive box model implementation. Example: If you 
declare a width of 500px on a div while also declaring a margin:5px 
and padding:5px, IE6 will see that as OK 500px, plus 5px per side for 
margin and 5px per side for padding - I'll render that 540px wide! 
Hence, all the layout trouble. Ways around that are numerous, from the * 
html filter/hack which allows you to declare a different width for IE6 
to account for its quirks, to using child selectors in a separate 
declaration that standards-compliant can read and IE6 can't. It depends 
on your situation and your preferences.
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