Re: [css-d] css in HTML email
Have a look at this blog and its associated pages. Delves into which email clients do what with css. http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2005/08/optimizing_css_presentation_in.html Cheers Miriam On 06/04/07, Ross Hulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question... Do you: (i) Embed CSS? (ii) Link CSS? (iii) Use inline CSS? Do they all work equally well? R. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Miriam Richardson myWebWorkshop.co.nz 06 364 0389 :: 021 129 8317 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] css in HTML email
On 06/04/07, Ross Hulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question... Its a FAQ: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] css in HTML email
Quick question... Do you: (i) Embed CSS? (ii) Link CSS? (iii) Use inline CSS? Do they all work equally well? R. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] css in HTML email
CSS support is very bad in email clients so you need to use tables and inline styles. Sad but true! On 4/6/07, Ross Hulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question... Do you: (i) Embed CSS? (ii) Link CSS? (iii) Use inline CSS? Do they all work equally well? R. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] css in HTML email
Ross Hulford ink wired: Do you: (i) Embed CSS? (ii) Link CSS? (iii) Use inline CSS? Do they all work equally well? None of them work if the recipient automatically converts all e-mail to text (which is the most secure way to prevent the introduction of viruses (virii?) and trojans into your computer. You will also have variations when users use web mail versus a mail client. I would simply give them a text message and link to an HTML page if they are interested. -- I made magic once. Now, the sofa is gone. http://dwacon.blogspot.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS driven HTML email campaigns
For webmail clients: Personally I've given up trying to deal with Hotmail, gmail etc, now i just filter these addresses and send them a link to a webpage for the newsletter i help run, the readers seem to prefer this as well. Hotmail is the worst offender as it strips all the head off the html, you can get round this by sticking the style block inside the body or using inline attributes. Yahoo is probably the best of the webmail bunch. Gmail (still in beta btw) is just unreliable for html at the moment, it seems to randomly clip long content with no way to unclip it. -- Paul Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS driven HTML email campaigns
I certainly wouldn't give up entirely on using css for layout in your mailer, at least as long as the design isn't too complex. You should find that semantic markup will see to it that your email will degrade nicely in clients that don't support css too well. I found this article really useful as it looks at the tips and tricks of dealing with different clients: http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2005/08/optimizing_css_1.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS driven HTML email campaigns
We would like to start sending some HTML email, but I don't want it if its not CSS based preferably. Most email clients handle styles very well, but webmail systems need to contend with spam that can take over the whole interface (remove the delete button, display their own ads, etc.), and so such systems remove a *lot* of the CSS control. You will need to use tables for layout. This is because most webmail systems will strip or otherwise deactivate any position values, and floats and clears are unpredictable. I've had a tough time with margins, too. So layout with tables. Margins seem ok. Background images are stripped by some webmail, but only if in CSS: using the HTML background and bgcolor attributes seem to work fine. Keep in mind that many webmail systems by default will not load external images. But HTML attributes are inline! you cry. Well, the linked stylesheets (link tags and @imports) and embedded stylesheets in the head are also stripped. Embedded stylesheets that declare id or class selectors were at one point filtered by Hotmail and (I think) an early version of Gmail, although I'm not sure of the current state. So the only CSS you have is in your HTML tag's inline style attribute. So, in summary: - tables for layout - CSS for fonts, colors, and margins only - inline styles in the style attribute only And since much of this is due to defensive measures, it's not likely to get better as older browsers die off. -- Ben Curtis : webwright bivia : a personal web studio http://www.bivia.com v: (818) 507-6613 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CSS driven HTML email campaigns
Does anyone know of a good CSS based email newsletter campaign system or software? We woudl like ot start sending some HTML email, but I dont want it if its not CSS based preferably. Thanks Adam Great overview here: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail CSS is still a bit problematic in email depending on the email client. -- Don Hinshaw Hinshaw Design Group http://www.hinshawdesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
