Re: [css-d] forms, standards & accessibility vs CMS: or how I learned to start worrying and hate web apps

2006-07-25 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 3:43 PM -0400 7/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have a form. Labels off to the left, fields to the right. There
>additional columns of fields can be added or removed by the user. Since
>it's not displaying data, a table isn't really called for . . . or is it?
>Can you use a data table to *accept* data? If not, how can you associate
>multiple fields with the same label in order to maintain accessibility?

That's all to do with markup theory and practice, and so it's 
really off-topic for this list.  There are a number of other venues 
better suited to such questions; see 
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic for a list.

>Will CSS work for dynamically added and removed positioned elements?

Now that's on-topic.  The answer is yes; I've done it myself.

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Re: [css-d] forms, standards & accessibility vs CMS: or how I learned to start worrying and hate web apps

2006-07-25 Thread MarcLuzietti
cj wrote:

tell the label the id of the
control it's associated with.  easy peasy!

===

And if you have multiple first name fields but only one label? Can't have 
multiple fields with the same id.

It's not merely a CSS question, no, but everything ties in to other 
things. If I use CSS positioning, how can I make it accessible and 
dynamic. If I don't, aren't I using a table for layout or is it a data 
table which also has layout?

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Re: [css-d] forms, standards & accessibility vs CMS: or how I learned to start worrying and hate web apps

2006-07-25 Thread cj
On 7/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you know what tables are, Mandrake? The CMSes are using tables to try
> and infect our precious fluid body tags. -- Gen. Jack D. Ripper
>
> I have a form. Labels off to the left, fields to the right. There
> additional columns of fields can be added or removed by the user. Since
> it's not displaying data, a table isn't really called for . . . or is it?
> Can you use a data table to *accept* data? If not, how can you associate
> multiple fields with the same label in order to maintain accessibility?
> Will CSS work for dynamically added and removed positioned elements?

i don't believe this is a css question, but the way to associate names
with controls is to use a .  tell the label the id of the
control it's associated with.  easy peasy!

here's an example "borrowed" from codeproject.com:
Full Name

Gender: 
Male

Female

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[css-d] forms, standards & accessibility vs CMS: or how I learned to start worrying and hate web apps

2006-07-25 Thread MarcLuzietti
Do you know what tables are, Mandrake? The CMSes are using tables to try 
and infect our precious fluid body tags. -- Gen. Jack D. Ripper

I have a form. Labels off to the left, fields to the right. There 
additional columns of fields can be added or removed by the user. Since 
it's not displaying data, a table isn't really called for . . . or is it? 
Can you use a data table to *accept* data? If not, how can you associate 
multiple fields with the same label in order to maintain accessibility? 
Will CSS work for dynamically added and removed positioned elements?

-- 
Marc Luzietti
Flagship Project
Bayview Financial, L.P.
(305) 341-5624
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