[css-d] iframes and CSS

2011-01-11 Thread Germán Martínez
Hi,
I'm having some problems styling iframes, I'm using Facebook  Twitter sharing 
functions and as always IE is ignoring my iframe {border: none; overflow: 
hidden;}.
Right now I'm using frameborder=0 scrolling=no but that makes my HTML not 
valid.
Any ideas?
Thanks

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Re: [css-d] iframes and CSS

2011-01-11 Thread Gabriele Romanato

Hi!
You should use:

border=0 which is valid. For overflow, which version of IE are you  
using?


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Re: [css-d] iframes and CSS

2011-01-11 Thread Germán Martínez
Thanks Gabriele!

For overflow, I'm having problems with IE6, 7 and 8. (but I don't really care 
about IE6 :P)

On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Gabriele Romanato wrote:

 Hi!
 You should use:
 
 border=0 which is valid. For overflow, which version of IE are you using?
 
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Re: [css-d] iframes and CSS

2011-01-11 Thread Gabriele Romanato
For overflow, try to give IE the declarations overflow-x/overflow-y.  
They should work. Also, first turn the iframe into a block level  
element with 'display: block'. Iframes are inline-block elements by  
default. :-)



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[css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread Tod
Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are 
doing regarding the use of iframes.

I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on 
phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support that. 
  I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with 
straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.


- Tod


PS:  Not trying to start a flame war, just want to see were the majority 
is sitting and if there is a compelling reason for/against iframes.
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Re: [css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread tedd
At 8:44 AM -0400 8/20/09, Tod wrote:
Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are
doing regarding the use of iframes.

I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on
phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support that.
   I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with
straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.


- Tod

PS:  Not trying to start a flame war, just want to see were the majority
is sitting and if there is a compelling reason for/against iframes.


Tod:

In the past 15 years of coding, I've used iframes maybe twice. It's 
not a staple for me.

Cheers,

tedd


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Re: [css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread Climis, Tim


From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] 
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Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:54 AM
To: Tod; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] iframes

At 8:44 AM -0400 8/20/09, Tod wrote:
Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are
doing regarding the use of iframes.

I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on
phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support that.
   I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with
straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.


- Tod

PS:  Not trying to start a flame war, just want to see were the majority
is sitting and if there is a compelling reason for/against iframes.


Tod:

In the past 15 years of coding, I've used iframes maybe twice. It's
not a staple for me.



I'm with Tedd.  The only time I've used iframes in the last 10 years is while 
working on a Facebook application, where it's practically required.  Otherwise, 
I've been able to accomplish the same things with a php include.

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Re: [css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Tod wrote:

 Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are
 doing regarding the use of iframes.

 I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on
 phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support  
 that.
  I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with
 straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.

1. Did you have a CSS question ? I think this is otherwise _wildly_  
off-topic.
2. iframe is part of html 5 (nested browser context):
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/embedded-content-0.html#the-iframe-element
 
 
http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/iframe.html

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Re: [css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread David Laakso
Tod wrote:
 Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are 
 doing regarding the use of iframes.

 I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on 
 phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support that. 
   I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with 
 straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.


 - Tod


 PS:  Not trying to start a flame war, just want to see were the majority 
 is sitting and if there is a compelling reason for/against iframes.
   




There is a compelling reason for/against most anything.
The iframe is alive and well in HTML 5.

















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Re: [css-d] iframes

2009-08-20 Thread Theresa Mesa
On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Tod wrote:

 Sorry this might be a little off topic but I'm curious what others are
 doing regarding the use of iframes.

 I've always heard they were bad and that the W3C is slowly working on
 phasing them out but google's mixed results don't seem to support  
 that.
  I don't really use them myself and usually get along just fine with
 straight HTML and CSS but I'm curious to see what others are using.


 - Tod


Here's Google's thoughts about iFrames:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=34445

Just because it's supported by W3C doesn't mean it's search engine- 
friendly. W3C and Google are two separate entities. And that's why  
it's wildly off-topic for CSS. How CSS helps or hinders your search  
engine results is a topic for another mailing list or forum.


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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-03 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Ray Gresko wrote:
 If you're referring to my IFRAMEs and max height post - I'd love to
 find a way to use a div with overflow to perform a similar function. My
 page design is essentially a menu shell that browses through content by
 setting the target of the iframe. Is there a way to do something similar
 with CSS (without having to copy the shell for each page of content)?
   

No. CSS is about presentation, not controlling content or behavior. You 
can create a scrolling area of a page with CSS, but that scrolling area 
can't show a separate HTML document within it. Please see 
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic for other lists you can 
use to get ideas on how to use iframes or alternate programming methods 
to achieve the effect you are looking for.

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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-03 Thread Ray Gresko
Thanks - I've gotten good direct info from the list members on using
php/SSI (include) for doing this, but my web needs to be both live on a
server and viewable without hosting (off a CD, disk, etc).

I realized soon after putting out the last email that iframes aren't
really involved in the issue at all, and the same problem occurs without
it included in the content div.

The simple problem is that on a 100% height layout with header, content
and footer, there seems to be no way to make the content div expand
vertically to fill the space left between header and footer in the
browser window?

The wrapper div can be set to 100%, the header and footer to specific
heights, but setting the content div to 100% makes it use the actual
full browser height, not the 100% left in between the header and
footer.

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Gillenwater
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Subject: Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

Ray Gresko wrote:
 If you're referring to my IFRAMEs and max height post - I'd love to
 find a way to use a div with overflow to perform a similar function.
My
 page design is essentially a menu shell that browses through content
by
 setting the target of the iframe. Is there a way to do something
similar
 with CSS (without having to copy the shell for each page of content)?
   

No. CSS is about presentation, not controlling content or behavior. You 
can create a scrolling area of a page with CSS, but that scrolling area 
can't show a separate HTML document within it. Please see 
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic for other lists you can 
use to get ideas on how to use iframes or alternate programming methods 
to achieve the effect you are looking for.

Zoe

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[css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Ross
Hi,

Looking at the last post it got me thinking. Does anyone still use frames or 
iframes? Is it a valid development technique?


R.
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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread James Gadrow
Ross wrote:
 Does anyone still use frames or iframes? Is it a valid development technique?
Depending upon what you are doing with them, an iframe may be the only 
way to achieve a desired effect. Say, you want a webpage with a section 
of the page that tells you in big, blue letters that you have a new 
personal message. Fine, now add the caveat that you want it to display 
when you have a new message without making your end user refresh their 
page. Now you need an iframe with javascript to make it refresh every so 
often so that ITs information will be current but your user can still 
browse at their leisure.

There must be other uses for them, but I've never really run into a 
project that I had to use them.

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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Russ Peters

 
 Hi,
 
 Looking at the last post it got me thinking. Does anyone still use
frames
 or iframes? Is it a valid development technique?
 
 
 R.

We are using an iframe on our homepage to incorporate a secure page for
login purposes.  I will say that this has proved to be a challenge with
the new browsers disabling navigate sub-frames across different
domains and with McAfee disabling the iframe tag altogether with their
Privacy Service. 

I love the function of them but it's been frustrating. I haven't found a
good alternative.

Russ
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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Daniel Hammond
| Ross wrote:
|  Does anyone still use frames or iframes? Is it a valid 
| development technique?
| Depending upon what you are doing with them, an iframe may be 
| the only 
| way to achieve a desired effect. Say, you want a webpage with 
| a section 
| of the page that tells you in big, blue letters that you have a new 
| personal message. Fine, now add the caveat that you want it 
| to display 
| when you have a new message without making your end user 
| refresh their 
| page. Now you need an iframe with javascript to make it 
| refresh every so 
| often so that ITs information will be current but your user can still 
| browse at their leisure.
| 
| There must be other uses for them, but I've never really run into a 
| project that I had to use them.


I use iframes on my website to display my photography work:
www.objectivedesigns.com/photography.htm. I prefer it to making the links go
to entirely different pages or opening in new windows.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Avenue
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Ray Leventhal
Russ Peters wrote:
 Hi,

 Looking at the last post it got me thinking. Does anyone still use
 
 frames
   
 or iframes? Is it a valid development technique?


 R.
 

 We are using an iframe on our homepage to incorporate a secure page for
 login purposes.  I will say that this has proved to be a challenge with
 the new browsers disabling navigate sub-frames across different
 domains and with McAfee disabling the iframe tag altogether with their
 Privacy Service. 

 I love the function of them but it's been frustrating. I haven't found a
 good alternative.

 Russ
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Sadly, I've been forced into working with an iframe-based design due to
a previous designer's penchant for them.  When I'm able (it's a time
thing...), I plan to re-do my data recovery client's website using a
div with overflow: auto; to take the place of the iframe where, in
this case, it's not really needed at all.

So, yes, there are iframes out there...but for many reasons including
validation and SEO, to my mind, iframes are a big no-no.

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Re: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Ray Gresko
Hi Ross-

If you're referring to my IFRAMEs and max height post - I'd love to
find a way to use a div with overflow to perform a similar function. My
page design is essentially a menu shell that browses through content by
setting the target of the iframe. Is there a way to do something similar
with CSS (without having to copy the shell for each page of content)?

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Subject: [css-d] iframes - who still uses them

Hi,

Looking at the last post it got me thinking. Does anyone still use
frames or iframes? Is it a valid development technique?


R.
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[css-d] IFRAMEs and max height

2007-06-29 Thread Ray Gresko
Hello All-

I have (what should be) a simple page layout with a header div (40px
height), footer div (50px height) and middle div containing an IFRAME
(600px min height). The whole page should have a minimum height of 690px
(40+600+50) but I want the IFRAME section to expand to fit vertically if
the browser window is taller (so, the footer will be aligned with the
bottom of the browser if the browser window is 690 or taller). I use
this page format as a shell that browses lots of different external html
files (hence the need for the IFRAME).

The main issue is that the IFRAME is set to 100% height but it seems to
default to looking at the full browser height instead of the div it is
contained within to arrive at what is 100% height. It was always
defaulting to being the full height of the browser window, and causing
scrolling by 90px (the combined height of the header and footer).

I actually found a hacky solution that works in IE7, but not in Firefox
(see example below). The thing that made it work was setting the html
bottom margin to 90px, which the IFRAME seems to be reading to scale
height properly. For Firefox, this is ignored and the bottom part of the
IFRAME and the footer are pushed off by 90px.

Any ideas on how to get this to work as it should in both IE and Firefox
with correct CSS would be much appreciated! At this point, I'm willing
to bag CSS and use a table if that would work and someone can help out
with how to do that.

-R

-snip

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
/

style type=text/css media=screen

html,body {
margin:0 0 90px 0;
padding:0;
height: 100%;   
}

#wrapper {
width: 900px;
height: 100%;
margin: 0 auto 0 auto;
}

#header {
height: 40px;
background-color: #00CC66;
}

#content {
height: 100%;
width: 900px;
min-height: 600px;
}

#footer {
height: 50px;
background-color: #FF;
}
/style
/head

body

div id=wrapper

div id=headerHeader/div

div id=content
iframe name=contentiframe src=http://www.msn.com;
width=100% height=100% frameborder=0 /iframe
/div

div id=footerFooter/div
/div

/body
/html

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Re: [css-d] IFrames and Styles

2005-12-20 Thread Jonathan Berry
Thanks, Manfred. Made it XHTML compliant, but that is not the issue
apparently. Can you try to load the page and see what I mean (in IE)?

On 12/20/05, Manfred Staudinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jonathan,

  I am getting a weird
  redraw problem on IE after another window passes over the iframed divs
 in
  question or when the browser goes back or forward to other pages and
 then
  back to the iframe page.
 weird redraw problem is too general, so why not give a link?

  Also, does the page have to have html, head, body tags, or is it OK just
 with a
  style block and the divs?
 You can check your code easily with http://validator.w3.org/

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[css-d] IFrames and Styles

2005-12-19 Thread Jonathan Berry
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong topic from an e-mail I was using the CSS
address from. I also forgot to include the applicable code:

Hello all, I have a question about iframes and styles. I am getting a weird
redraw problem on IE after another window passes over the iframed divs in
question or when the browser goes back or forward to other pages and then
back to the iframe page. We are getting it on multiple computers. Are there
limitations/anomalies to iframed content style? This is only on IE. Also,
does the page have to have html, head, body tags, or is it OK just with a
style block and the divs?

Page Code:
style
#insider-container {
 font-size:10px;
 font-family:Arial;
 width:235px;
 margin-top:0.3em;
  }
#insider-container a {
  color:#009;
  }
#insider-container div {
  background:#eee;
  border:1px solid #fff;
  margin-top:-1px;
  }


#insider-container img {
float:left;
width:24px;
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