[css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread Brian M. Curran
Hi,
For my website I have:
body {  font-size: small;  } and p { font-size: 92%; } and li { font-size: 92%; 
} 

The effect I'm getting on the site now is that the spacing between paragraphs 
and li items is too large for my liking. Is there a way to proportionally 
reduce the space?

The site is www.locallaw11news.com

Sincerely,
Brian

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Re: [css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread David Laakso
Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Hi,
 For my website I have:
 body {  font-size: small;  } and p { font-size: 92%; } and li { font-size: 
 92%; } 

 The effect I'm getting on the site now is that the spacing between paragraphs 
 and li items is too large for my liking. Is there a way to proportionally 
 reduce the space?

 The site is www.locallaw11news.com

 Sincerely,
 Brian
   



Add this ruleset and set the bottom margin to taste:

p {
margin:
0
0
0
0;
}

As ever,
Helen Keller


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Re: [css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread Brian M. Curran
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Hi,
 For my website I have:
 body {  font-size: small;  } and p { font-size: 92%; } and li { 
 font-size: 92%; }

 The effect I'm getting on the site now is that the spacing between 
 paragraphs and li items is too large for my liking. Is there a way to 
 proportionally reduce the space?

 The site is www.locallaw11news.com

 Sincerely,
 Brian


 David Laakso

 Add this ruleset and set the bottom margin to taste:

 p {
 margin:
 0
 0
 0
 0;
 }


Thank you for the reply. I was aware of that. I was wondering if there was a 
way to proportionally reduce the space, to match the 8% text size reduction? 
It seems that when I specified 92% that the text size reduced, by the 
spacing between paragraphs did not??? 

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Re: [css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread David Laakso
Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 
 The site is www.locallaw11news.com

   
 

 Thank you for the reply. I was aware of that. I was wondering if there was a 
 way to proportionally reduce the space, to match the 8% text size reduction? 
 It seems that when I specified 92% that the text size reduced, by the 
 spacing between paragraphs did not??? 

   





No there is not a way to do that.

It is the same with CSS as it is with print typography. The size of the 
type specified is the size of the glyphs of the font specified. The 
horizontal gutters between paragraphs and headings are set with more 
lead in hot-metal; and, they are set with a margin on the Web. In other 
words there is no direct correlation between the font-size and the 
horizontal-gutters in CSS, other than the individual browser default for 
margin. To kill the default margins add p {margin: 0 0 0 0;}. To adjust 
the horizontal-gutter to suit your particular and quite peculiar 
personal concept of typographic taste, tweak the margin-bottom to adjust 
the height of the gutter. In hot metal, you would have added or removed 
lead.

PS The purpose of typography is to make content readable.
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Re: [css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread Theresa Mesa
I'm a print person from way back before we were using these newfangled  
computers to do our work. I was also a typesetter.

Serif fonts for body text are great for print, not so much for the  
web. Especially as small as you have the text. I'd have to really,  
really want to read the article to muddle through all that smallish  
serif text. The monitor takes that text and breaks those little serifs  
into pixels. Instead of the serifs causing the characters to flow into  
each other, as in print, they just get clunky. On a PC - which tends  
to thin out the strokes - they're even worse, unless people know how  
to set their anti-aliasing (most older users I deal with are lucky to  
know how to turn on their computer). Unless your target market is the  
twentyish crowd...I'm thinking your demographic is spread out along  
the age continuum a little more than that.

Serif headers are a great counterpoint to a sans-serif body.

Theresa

On Oct 2, 2009, at 3:45 PM, David Laakso wrote:

 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Brian M. Curran wrote:

 The site is www.locallaw11news.com




 Thank you for the reply. I was aware of that. I was wondering if  
 there was a
 way to proportionally reduce the space, to match the 8% text size  
 reduction?
 It seems that when I specified 92% that the text size reduced, by the
 spacing between paragraphs did not???







 No there is not a way to do that.

 It is the same with CSS as it is with print typography. The size of  
 the
 type specified is the size of the glyphs of the font specified. The
 horizontal gutters between paragraphs and headings are set with more
 lead in hot-metal; and, they are set with a margin on the Web. In  
 other
 words there is no direct correlation between the font-size and the
 horizontal-gutters in CSS, other than the individual browser default  
 for
 margin. To kill the default margins add p {margin: 0 0 0 0;}. To  
 adjust
 the horizontal-gutter to suit your particular and quite peculiar
 personal concept of typographic taste, tweak the margin-bottom to  
 adjust
 the height of the gutter. In hot metal, you would have added or  
 removed
 lead.

 PS The purpose of typography is to make content readable.
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Re: [css-d] Space between paragraphs too large

2009-10-02 Thread David Laakso
Brian M. Curran wrote:

 Lol, thank you. Good point, but look at the NY Times online. They 
 don't go by the rule book either.





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[css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Eliana Berlfein
The space between paragraphs is much bigger on a PC than a Mac. Is 
there some way to  control the space and make it more consistent?

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:46:17PM -0600, Eliana Berlfein wrote:
 The space between paragraphs is much bigger on a PC than a Mac. Is 
 there some way to  control the space and make it more consistent?

You could do

p {
margin-bottom: [some length];
padding-bottom: [some other length];
margin-top: [still another length];
padding-top: [a fourth length];
}

Let us know if that works for you.

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RE: [css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Williams
 From: Eliana Berlfein
 
 The space between paragraphs is much bigger on a PC than a Mac. Is 
 there some way to  control the space and make it more consistent?

Set the top and bottom margins and padding to values that work
nicely for your intended use and preferences. Different browsers
may use different default values when these settings aren't
specifically declared. You may want to remove all top spacing and
use only bottom spacing, or vice versa, or even some mix of both.
Headings will likely need matching treatment.

The use of em or % values can be good for this sort of adjustment
as the spacing will scale with text size changes that a user may make.

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Re: [css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Felix Miata
Eliana Berlfein wrote:

 The space between paragraphs is much bigger on a PC than a Mac. Is
 there some way to  control the space and make it more consistent?

This is something set by the user agent. In Firefox the rule is thus:

p {margin: 1em 0;} (res/html.css)

The rule for Konqueror (KHTML) in Linux is similar
(khtml/css/html4.css), and should be the same as Safari. Explicitly
setting the margin for p in your stylesheet should match them pretty
well as long as both Mac  PC are using the exact same fonts and your
doctype keeps the browsers in standards mode.
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Re: [css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen R Laniel wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 08:41:03PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

   The space between paragraphs is much bigger on a PC than a Mac. Is
   there some way to  control the space and make it more consistent?

  This is something set by the user agent. In Firefox the rule is thus:

  p {margin: 1em 0;} (res/html.css)
 
 Wait, doesn't the page's author's CSS override the browser's CSS?

Only when the author actually does it. He doesn't have to.
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Re: [css-d] space between paragraphs

2005-06-27 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:04:04PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
  Wait, doesn't the page's author's CSS override the browser's CSS?
 Only when the author actually does it. He doesn't have to.

But if the original poster was trying to figure out how to make
her pages look good in multiple browsers, the correct answer is to
change the page's CSS.

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