Re: [css-d] Ersatz 3-column using a right float for 3rd column

2006-07-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On 7/20/06, Marcus Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to do a 1-static-1 flexible-1 static 3-column layout (gave
 up on Holy Grail; was hoping to avoid Jello Mold due to its
 complexity), and if I get IE to work fine, then of all things, Firefox
 yields problems. Safari and Opera have not been a problem this time
 around.

I really recommend Skidoo:
http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/skidoo_too/index.html

It's static-fluid-static. The demo uses elastic left and right
columns, you can make those columns fixed if you want.


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Re: [css-d] Ersatz 3-column using a right float for 3rd column

2006-07-20 Thread David Laakso
Marcus Duke wrote:
 I'm trying to do a 1-static-1 flexible-1 static 3-column layout...]
 http://fish.washington.edu/people/template/index_first.html
  Also,is there a way to make the float 100% window height?
 [...]
   
The 3 column tutorial on this page 
http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins may meet your 
description, and need, for a stable, robust, layout that works well 
cross os/browser. And, if you would like to avoid some of the pain and 
suffering of coping with the various versions of the win/ie, play your 
cards right: put an xml declaration ?xml version=1.0 
encoding=utf-8?  above the doctype. It will put win/ie in quirksmode 
and make things go easier. Additionally, follow the suggestions at the 
top of this pagehttp://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=AvoidingHacks to 
help avoid hacks for ie, to boot.

 Marcus Duke
HTH.
~dL


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Re: [css-d] Ersatz 3-column using a right float for 3rd column

2006-07-20 Thread Marcus Duke
Thanks, David.

Are you familiar with the skidoo layouts suggested by Christian? They 
are the most robust 3-column layouts I've tested so far and I wondered 
how you viewed them compared with the negativemargins method. I had 
checked out the ALA negative margin layout previously but didn't know 
about the ?xml quirks thing (you DID mean ?xml... and not 
?xml..., right? Doesn't matter as I tried both to be sure).

I added the xml string after observing that IE Mac and Win both have 
undesired effects on columns (overlap, dropdown, other) when reducing 
browser to very small widths, but the unwanted behaviors still 
persisted after adding ?xml

On the other hand, skidoo (not the lean, which exhibits the same 
problems as Holy Grail and negative margins; the full 
version--skidoo_too) did not exhibit any of the same problems that 
negativemargins had with the 7 browsers I tested.

I have read a little on the group's Avoiding Hacks material. 
Interesting way to iron out spacing and text-size problems. Thanks 
again.

Marcus Duke
Webmaster/Info Specialist
UW Aquatic  Fishery Sciences

On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David Laakso wrote:

 Marcus Duke wrote:
 I'm trying to do a 1-static-1 flexible-1 static 3-column layout...]
 http://fish.washington.edu/people/template/index_first.html
  Also,is there a way to make the float 100% window height?
 [...]

 The 3 column tutorial on this page 
 http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins may meet your 
 description, and need, for a stable, robust, layout that works well 
 cross os/browser. And, if you would like to avoid some of the pain and 
 suffering of coping with the various versions of the win/ie, play your 
 cards right: put an xml declaration ?xml version=1.0 
 encoding=utf-8?  above the doctype. It will put win/ie in 
 quirksmode and make things go easier. Additionally, follow the 
 suggestions at the top of this 
 pagehttp://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=AvoidingHacks to help avoid 
 hacks for ie, to boot.

 Marcus Duke
 HTH.
 ~dL


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Re: [css-d] Ersatz 3-column using a right float for 3rd column

2006-07-20 Thread David Laakso
Marcus Duke wrote:
 Thanks, David.

 On the other hand, skidoo (not the lean, which exhibits the same 
 problems as Holy Grail and negative margins; the full 
 version--skidoo_too) did not exhibit any of the same problems that 
 negativemargins had with the 7 browsers I tested.
   
Go with the skidoo layout-- sounds as though that's what you need.

~dL
PS I replied to Marcus off-list in more detail with regard to other 
questions he asked.
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