Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-26 Thread nancy
 I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone reports
 issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried late versions
 of Firefox or Chrome :-)


 Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the people
 are still using XPs.  It is not easy to ignore all these people especially
 if you are selling something.

 XP systems are still suported (or extended support) by M$ until April
 2014.

Even after support stops, there will possibly be a greater percentage of
XP with IE8 users than there have historically been with outdated browsers
because older versions of, for example, DreamWeaver, do not run on Vista
or 7, and IE9 (and presumably 10) does not run on XP. In this economy the
cost of upgrading all software to be compatible with Windows 7 is probably
beyond the reach of many businesses.
*sigh*

NESB


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-24 Thread david

On 04/23/2012 10:56 AM, John D wrote:


I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone
reports issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried
late versions of Firefox or Chrome :-)



Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the
people are still using XPs.  It is not easy to ignore all these
people especially if you are selling something.


FWIW, my employer (large insurance company) recently upgraded it's
official corporate browser ... from IE6 to IE7. What is this IE8 you 
speak of? ;-)


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-24 Thread Tomasz Borek
Forgot to add: when I can, I do what the original email here suggested. But
that is mostly for private and non-commercial work. Still - would be good
to know how many corporate browsers are IE.

W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 10:28 użytkownik Tomasz Borek 
tomasz.bo...@gmail.com napisał:

 My employer (offers mostly HR software) last December dropped support of
 IE6.

 pozdrawiam,
 Tomasz Borek


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-24 Thread Tomasz Borek
My employer (offers mostly HR software) last December dropped support of
IE6.

pozdrawiam,
Tomasz Borek
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-24 Thread Ted Rolle, Jr.
I'm retired.  You've made it all come back.

 FWIW, my employer (large insurance company) recently upgraded it's
 official corporate browser ... from IE6 to IE7. What is this IE8 you
 speak of? ;-)


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2012-04-23 Thread John D




 I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone reports
 issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried late versions
 of Firefox or Chrome :-)
 

Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the people are 
still using XPs.  It is not easy to ignore all these people especially if you 
are selling something.

For information sites you can say whatever you want because there is no revenue 
involved.

XP systems are still supoorted (or extended support) by M$ until April 2014.


  
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, hasLayout and ordered lists

2010-07-03 Thread David Hucklesby
On 7/1/10 8:34 PM, Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 Just a quick reminder on something happened to me yesterday:

 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/07/internet-explorer-haslayout-and-ordered.html

  HTH :-)

Thanks for the reminder.

Yes, layout seems to create as many problems as it fixes, or so it
seems to me. One tip I'd like to add--since floats have layout,
margins tend to disappear inside floated structural elements (like
columns). Instead of messing with CSS to fix this problem, I simply add
a padding DIV inside each column with margins and/or padding applied
to it, but no height or width. A tip I picked up from Eric Meyer on
CSS lo, these many years ago...

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer + CSS issues

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Gresley
Frederyco Martins wrote:
 Hello dear fellows,
 
 I'm facing a some little problems with my website
 and internet explorer 7 (didn't test on other versions).
 
 First bug - No hover on the illustration and contact info.
 
 Second one - Post's title are cutted at it's top.
 
 Third - A little missbehave on div's dimensions and some
 minor errors on padding and margin positioning.
 
 
 Since I am not a webdeveloper, just know some html + css +
 worpress basics, came hear to ask for help.
 
 This is the site
 http://www.fredymartins.com.br
 
 Everything works fine on Opera and Firefox, using linux and
 windows.
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 Fredy.


Hello Fredy.

You have put IE6, IE7 and IE8 into quirksmode [1] by having a comment 
before the doctype [2].


!-- This loads the header --
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;


Remove that comment or IE any version will work much like IE5. This is 
why your hover transition doesn't work since IE6- only supports hover on 
links. ei. a:hover. Other issues surround the IE box model in quirksmode 
[2].


1. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html
2. http://css-class.com/test/css/selectors/ie7hacktargetingopera4.htm


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer + CSS issues

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Gresley
Alan Gresley wrote:
[...]
 Hello Fredy.
 
 You have put IE6, IE7 and IE8 into quirksmode [1] by having a comment 
 before the doctype [2].


Sorry, that is not true only IE6 is in quirksmode. IE7 maybe having 
trouble with the zero line-height.

.titles {
   color:#ff;
   line-height:0px;
}

The no hover problem I can not duplicate. I think the last problem is 
hasLayout.


http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html


Time for bed I guess!

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 - 7 page correction needed

2008-10-06 Thread Alexandru Dinulescu
Hello.

It may be because you have a inner element inside a div like a paragraph or
height or long word if the div if small in which's width is wider that yoru
column adn because of that the entire layout gets messed up. This had
happened to me lots of times until i figured it out what caused this. Also
you can start with the w3c validation of XHTML and CSS

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On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Nasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello list,
  I have reviewed my page CSS and thought I ensured that there were widths
 and heights to all main divs, but I still have a problem with IE 5 - 7.  In
 IE   the site content does not show up only the wrapper elements the top
 image, the middle background and the bottom image.  I am trying to create a
 curved rectangle frame for the page.

 I am using a css model that I wonder if it is creating a conflict...
 it separates a reset file and a typography from the layout.
 I would appreciate some help  reviewing my site in IE preferably 6 and 7.

 the page in question is www.giggleodee.com/indext.html

 Thank you in advance for any assistance
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue

2008-08-05 Thread Olivier Sannier
Pirkka Rannikko wrote:
 a href=http://www.fi;
span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span
 /a


 Any ideas or similar experiences?
Have you tried putting the span around the a instead of inside?
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue

2008-08-05 Thread Bill Brown
Pirkka Rannikko wrote:
 When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to
 choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize
 the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the
 menu. Also the cursor does not change on mouseover but focus outline
 works as usual.
 
 When the width declaration is removed or changed to auto, the link
 works as it should. Declaration display: inline-block; also triggers
 the issue as well floating the span element.
 
 You can build around this trap if you know it is there but I noticed
 that several CSS examples that use the Sliding Doors technique have
 not been tested against this.

Hi Pirkka--

Any of IE's hasLayout triggers on the span element will set off this
bug. In this case at least, the 100% width is superfluous (display:block
covers it). The obvious fix here is to remove the width:100% from the
span and apply display:block to the anchor element...and then, try to
avoid triggering 'hasLayout' on the span. I understand this won't always
be the case, but it fixes your example.

a href=http://www.fi.com; style=display:block;zoom:1;
  span style=display:block;http://www.fi.com/span
/a

Hope it helps.
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue

2008-08-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Pirkka Rannikko wrote:
 
 a href=http://www.fi;
span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span
 /a
 
 When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to
 choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize
 the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the
 menu. Also the cursor does not change on mouseover but focus outline
 works as usual.

Thanks. I think its another of these haslayout issues. It seems to be 
not documented yet?

The cursor issue is known and could be fixed with cursor:hand from 
within a conditional comment.

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue

2008-08-05 Thread Bruno Fassino
Ingo Chao wrote:
 Pirkka Rannikko wrote:

 a href=http://www.fi;
span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span
 /a

 When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to
 choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize
 the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the
 menu.

 Thanks. I think its another of these haslayout issues. It seems to be
 not documented yet?


We had noticed, in this test case [1], that an hasLayout box inside a link
causes 'un-clickability' of included images (and loss of hand cursor), but I
never noticed that it also causes this problem in the right-click menu :-)

Bruno



[1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/IEaL.html

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated

2008-05-14 Thread Chris Hardie
Hi Bryce,

The solution I often opt for requires a bit more work, but it usually 
ends up being more resilient across browsers. Instead of using a bullet, 
use a background image that poses as a bullet. Your style would look 
something like:

|**li { padding-left: 1em; /* This should be the width of your bullet image 
plus a smidge */
 background: url(bullet.gif) no-repeat 0 50%; }

|Hope that helps,

C.



Bryce Fields wrote:
 We are trying to create a columns of list items with the following HTML:

 ul
  liItem/li
  liItem/li
  liItem/li
 etc.
 /ul

 and CSS:

 ul {
  margin:0 0 1em 2em;
  list-style-position:outside;
 }

 li {
  float:left;
  width:33%;
 }

 The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when
 the list item is floated.  We've found links to articles illustrating
 the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution.  Anyone know
 what's going on and how we can fix it?

   


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated

2008-05-14 Thread Bill Brown
Bryce Fields wrote:
 We are trying to create a columns of list items with the following HTML:
[snipped]
 The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when
 the list item is floated.  We've found links to articles illustrating
 the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution.  Anyone know
 what's going on and how we can fix it?

Hi Bryce,

Seems floating LIs or ULs can indeed really cause a lot of issues. After 
some testing, I noticed I was able to achieve showing the bullets in 
Firefox, but more importantly, I was also able to make them disappear in 
the same manner that IE does by floating the UL. Odd results indeed.

My supposition is that this is because floated elements automatically 
become display:block, which seems to be in some way over-riding the 
browser's internal display as list-item styling.

Anyway, I wrote a solution for you which should be fairly cross-browser 
friendly (no support for IE5.5). It works well from what I can tell, but 
will require the (semantically unnecessary) addition of another element 
(I used a span) inside the LI to achieve the desired look. It'll be up 
to you to find that balance between semantic and pedantic.

I published my results here:
http://www.theholiergrail.com/tests/iebullets.php

Hope it helps.
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated

2008-05-14 Thread David Laakso
Bryce Fields wrote:

 The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when
 the list item is floated.  We've found links to articles illustrating
 the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution.  Anyone know
 what's going on and how we can fix it?

   

I know from nothing about nice semantic solutions. The default position 
for markers is different in IE than compliant browsers.
This /may/ be one way around it.
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/g.html

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?

2008-01-28 Thread Big Moxy
David,

Replace position: absolute with float: left. It works for me locally on 
IE 7.

#popupmenu{
float: left;--- add this
position: absolute;  --- delete this
top: 598px; /* This can also be fixed or absolute*/
width: 700px;
/*Format */
}

Tim

David Terrell wrote:
 Hello All,

 I have  a couple issues.  In Internet Explorer, the
 #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the
 left.  I have no idea why.  It displays properly in
 all other browsers I've checked.

 Here's a screenshot:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png

 The site:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite

 The css:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/styles.css

 Another issue:  On the various sub pages which use a
 different stylesheet: 
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css

 The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down
 which I thought might be a collapsing margin, but I
 used padding-top: 1px on the content which you can see
 and I thought that would take care of it, but it
 doesn't.  I even used it on the #leftimage div and
 nothing happened.  anybody see what's happening here? 

 page:  
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/children.html

 Thanks for any help.

 David Terrell


   
 
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?

2008-01-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Terrell wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I have  a couple issues.  In Internet Explorer, the #popupmenu div 
 shows up on the right rather than the left.  I have no idea why.  It 
 displays properly in all other browsers I've checked.

 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite

Add...
#popupmenu{
left: 0;
}
...to tell IE/win where to position that element. IE/win will otherwise
by default position its left edge horizontally in the middle of its parent.

 Another issue:  On the various sub pages which use a different 
 stylesheet: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css
 
 The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down which I thought 
 might be a collapsing margin, but I used padding-top: 1px on the 
 content which you can see and I thought that would take care of it, 
 but it doesn't.  I even used it on the #leftimage div and nothing 
 happened.  anybody see what's happening here?

You have one more div there - strangely named #enlcose and left unstyled
AFAICS, and that div is interfering with vertical margins in non-IE
browsers.

Both #left-image and #main-text has 'margin-top: 280px', and one of
these (#main-text) lose its margin to #enlcose, while the other
(#left-image) is pushed down by its own margin-top in addition to the
one that has collapsed onto #enlcose.
A nice little collapsing margins conundrum :-)


To solve it: delete that extra div id=enlcose in the source-code, or
declare...

#enlcose {padding-top: 1px;}

...to contain 'margin-top: 280px' from both #left-image and #main-text
inside it, and collapsing margins won't create any more problems.

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?

2008-01-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I have  a couple issues.  In Internet Explorer, the
 #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the
 left.  I have no idea why.  It displays properly in
 all other browsers I've checked.
 
 Here's a screenshot:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png
 
 The site:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite
 
 The css:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/styles.css
 
 Another issue:  On the various sub pages which use a
 different stylesheet:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css
 
 The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down
 which I thought might be a collapsing margin, but I
 used padding-top: 1px on the content which you can see
 and I thought that would take care of it, but it
 doesn't.  I even used it on the #leftimage div and
 nothing happened.  anybody see what's happening here?
 
 page:
 http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/children.html


Hi David,
For the menu, add left:0;
For the image, showing up too far down, remove the margin-top (280px)
declaration from your left-image div.


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer

2007-12-18 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:13:50 +0900, JonMarc Wright wrote:
[...]

 the pages are located at:

 http://dearcards.com/dt/index.html

 css can be found at

 http://dearcards.com/dt/css/base.css

 there is some extra markup in the form of some extra divs and stuff, which is
 intentional and is planned for use shortly.  but the css doesn't work in ie 6 
 or 7.  
 ... looks okay in firefox.


I think the problem lies in all those 10px left margins on elements
inside the #sidebar. It seems to be pushing out that sidebar beyond
the 760px you put on the #wrapper.

Most browsers will simply overflow the box. Internet Explorer drops the float.

Try adding an extra 10px to the width of the #wrapper.
Sadly, I don't have an editor that handles your Unicode,
so have not tried this.

BTW - You need to wrap your JavaScript in a CDATA section. Better
yet, move it to an external file. You also seem undecided as to whether
you are coding HTML or XHTML (?)

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems

2007-11-08 Thread Bryce Fields
On Nov 6, 2007 11:56 PM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bryce Fields wrote:
  ...
 
  http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm
 
  You'll notice the font sizing in the (icky) layout table is rendering
  considerably smaller than what it should when compared in other
  browsers.
 Yes, the page does not validate.

 There is a table nested in a paragraph.

 Normal Browswers close the pPara to pPara/p. You can verify this in
 Firebug, Webkit Web Inspector, and Opera Developer Console. But IE6 and
 IE7 do not comply.

 Because your page has font-size settings on the p and of elements inside
 the table, IE will calculate these on a basis of the p setting.

 With invalid code, you are testing the error recovery capabilities of
 the browsers. Debugging invalid code without correcting it wastes
 resources. Validation should not become an end in itself.

That solved the problem, Ingo, and once again drilled home the value
of validated code.  Thank you very much for the assist!

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems

2007-11-06 Thread David Laakso
Bryce Fields wrote:
 Greetings everyone.  One of our clients at Kentucky.gov is having an
 issue w/ the way IE inherits font sizes that I hope someone can help
 with.  Take a look at this page here:

 http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm

 So?  Any ideas?

   

Not really, but this will turn it into a billboard:
table {font-size: 12em;}
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems

2007-11-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/11/06 11:04 (GMT-0500) Bryce Fields apparently typed:

 Greetings everyone.  One of our clients at Kentucky.gov is having an
 issue w/ the way IE inherits font sizes that I hope someone can help
 with.  Take a look at this page here:

 http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm

 You'll notice the font sizing in the (icky) layout table is rendering
 considerably smaller than what it should when compared in other
 browsers.  Using the web developer bar for IE, I've traced the issue
 down to the table cell level where IE inexplicably decides to
 calculate an absolute value for the font size even though no rules
 target the TD.  This throws off the 0.7em font size that is on the
 unordered list, causing it to render smaller than intended in IE.

 Anyone have a clue as to what's really going on and how to create a
 general fix for this problem.  And yes, I KNOW the page doesn't
 validate, and I KNOW they shouldn't be using a table for layout, but
 this is an agency over which I have no control.  I can also patch the
 problem fairly easily w/ an IE specific style sheet that readjusts the
 font sizing of the ems, but I would like to find alternate solutions
 if possible.

 So?  Any ideas?

I don't see any difference between FF and IE7, but I have an idea anyway:
Stripping the DFh BBh BFh characters from the top of ky_technology.css might
improve IE5/6 behavior.

There's an instance of functionally absolute size (10px, 25% of my default)
in #splashPage #terms that should be changed to relative.

As is typical of gummint pages, all the fonts are much too small. .6em is
less than half the size of the default, which is rarely better than
completely illegible at less than half the default size. Size is a function
of both height and width, so then nominal CSS .6em * .6em translates to a
size of only 36%. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/area60.html

When visited in Gecko browsers with a proportionally large minimum size set,
the result is fonts much larger than the default, similar to the Clagnut
effect: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/eonsSS.html

Coupled with the px line-heights, the effect is pretty ugly. All those px
line-heights need to be changed to unitless.
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/line-height-inherit.html
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer parsing bug: invalid at-rule not ignored: more info

2007-11-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 Can anyone add more info and/or suggestions?

Haven't really looked into @media rules and parse errors for quite some
time, but AFAICS IE/win hasn't improved when served nested @media rules...

http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_01.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_08.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_09.html

Some other old tests...

http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_10.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_11.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_12.html

Suggestion: keep on testing, but don't use such constructions for
anything serious if you can avoid it.

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Re: [css-d] internet explorer problem

2007-07-27 Thread David Laakso
ochieng' nelson wrote:
 http://gilroy.50webs.com/safari_style.html
 problem internet explorer wont render header as the other browsers do. Any
 help?
 Thanks.
 Nelson
   


Best place to start is to provide valid markup-- you've 9 errors, 
including an extra /div on line 109.

The source document shows the id #wrapper as the first division to open 
and the last to close.  Yet in the CSS file you've set a height of 100px 
for #wrapper.
Font-scaling at +1 in Firefox causes the right column float to drop.

Get it valid and functioning in compliant browsers and bring it back if 
you stll have IE issues.

Best,

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer issues (was: Site check please)

2007-07-12 Thread Gary Benson
Gary Benson wrote:
 But it looks like I have the following bugs:

In case anyone's following this I fixed them all :)  Here's how:

  IE7 and IE6:
   - A block of white protruding from the left edge of the content area.

zoom: 1 on #pageBody (forces hasLayout)

  IE7 and IE6:
   - The text on the main page starts one line lower than it should.

zoom: 1 on #contentWrap

  IE7 and IE6:
   - The list bullets misaligned

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical05.htm

  IE6 only:
   - The photo and the navigation bar are missing

The zoom:1 on #pageBody fixed this.  It's like a magic bullet!

  IE6 only:
   - PNG transparency is not supported

I just saved all the images without transparency.

Be happy,
Gary

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer clears in main content.

2007-04-21 Thread ~davidLaakso
Christopher Blake wrote:
 Every browser that i have views the pages as i like.

 http://www.3pointdesign.com/index.html

 http://www.3pointdesign.com/styles/one.css


 Except for Internet Explorer. Now I have managed to check the problem  
 and it also also occurs on i.e. 5.01, 5.5  6.0 for the PC.



 Christopher Blake

   


I do not see a float drop viewing your page live in IE7.0 through 
IE5.01 on XP.

And I do not see it in these browsercam captures of IE6.0 through IE5.0 
(win/2000) and IE6.0 (XP)..
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=341542

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac

2006-06-27 Thread Christy Collins
On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote:


 Hi,
 I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac.
 It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this
 browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot give me any exact
 numbers, but I am just wondering does it make any sense to make
 webpages compatible with this browser, or is it as dead as IE3 or 4
 (or are they not?).

 Thanks for the answers,
 Mikolaj Misiurewicz


Some mac owners have older machines that aren't powerful enough to  
run OSX properly and those people are stuck with IE mac.  I know a  
few people personally in this predicament.  That said, it's probably  
becoming more and more rare every day.  I developed on IE Mac for a  
long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate, but many  
people aren't supporting it anymore.  Blogger doesn't work at all for  
IE Mac.

-C
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac

2006-06-27 Thread Kieron McIntyre
Mikolaj wrote:

 It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics 
 for this browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot 
 give me any exact numbers, but I am just wondering does it 
 make any sense to make webpages compatible with this browser, 
 or is it as dead as IE3 or 4 (or are they not?).

Hi there! If you mean IE5 for OSX then yes, it I still definitely used.
Personally I think it should be developed for as standard.

For example, a recent client actually viewed their website on their
board room mac using IE5.2 ... We weren't to know they used macs but its
just as well we developed for them!

So, you shouldn't think in general internet stats, only of your
audience. What do they use?

Kieron McIntyre
www.digbyswift.com


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac

2006-06-27 Thread Theresa Mesa
After not supporting or updating IE/Mac for the last two years, Microsoft
instructed Mac users in February to stop using Internet Explorer.


On 6/27/06 12:58 PM, Christy Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac.
 It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this
 browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot give me any exact
 numbers, but I am just wondering does it make any sense to make
 webpages compatible with this browser, or is it as dead as IE3 or 4
 (or are they not?).
 
 Thanks for the answers,
 Mikolaj Misiurewicz
 
 
 Some mac owners have older machines that aren't powerful enough to
 run OSX properly and those people are stuck with IE mac.  I know a
 few people personally in this predicament.  That said, it's probably
 becoming more and more rare every day.  I developed on IE Mac for a
 long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate, but many
 people aren't supporting it anymore.  Blogger doesn't work at all for
 IE Mac.
 
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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac

2006-06-27 Thread Micky Hulse
Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote:
 I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac.
 It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this
 browser? Who use it?

I work for our local Newspaper, and 90% of the building/corporation uses 
OS9/Mac and browses with IE5.2. The reason: The system that is used to 
create the paper only runs on that OS/platform - We have yet to upgrade 
(hehe, looking forward to that.)

Christy Collins wrote:
  ... becoming more and more rare every day.  I developed on IE Mac for 
  a long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate...

I completely agree with Christy... from my experience, IE5.2 does not 
need that much more work in order to get your css to work properly.

Hth,
Cheers,
Micky


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk

2006-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tina Vance wrote:
 http://www.refreshcleveland.org

 I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet Explorer.
  It seems to be shoving my main content down below my sidebar, no 
 matter what I try. Is there something I'm missing?

#footer is placed 2 /div tags too high in the source-code, and is
therefore affected by the padding/margin set on those other elements and
is pushed to the right. IE/win can't overflow, so it pushes the
container wider instead - causing the drop.

Move 2 /div tags from _below_ #footer to _above_ !-- begin footer --
and the problem is solved.

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk

2006-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 Tina Vance wrote:
 
 http://www.refreshcleveland.org

 Move 2 /div tags from _below_ #footer to _above_ !-- begin footer
 -- and the problem is solved.

Make that 3 /div tags, as there shouldn't be any other /div tags
below #footer than #footer's own.

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk

2006-04-18 Thread Aaron Gray
 I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet Explorer. It
 seems to be shoving my main content down below my sidebar, no matter
 what I try. Is there something I'm missing?

This is a common problem with alot of sites developed for open source 
products and news where they are not tested properly on IE.

You are not alone in having this problem. Something to do with how IE treats 
DIV's I believe.

Aaron

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk

2006-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Aaron Gray wrote:
 This is a common problem with alot of sites developed for open source
  products and news where they are not tested properly on IE.
 
 You are not alone in having this problem. Something to do with how IE
  treats DIV's I believe.

Not just DIVs, but any element.
- If content doesn't fit inside, then IE/win will expand the containing
element.
- More standard compliant browsers - including IE7 - will let oversized
content overflow the edges of its containing element, and keep the
dimensions stable. That is; unless we tell them that they should allow
the container to expand.

Tina Vance wrote:
 I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet 
 Explorer. It seems to be shoving my main content down below my 
 sidebar, no matter what I try. Is there something I'm missing?

As mentioned earlier; yes. However, I think I missed something too. If
you validate your page...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.refreshcleveland.org%2F
...then you'll see that a couple more end-tags for div are missing.

If you then look at your page in any browser, you'll see that you have a
kind of staircase down the left side of main column, with a few more
steps than I think you've intended.
That's the real problem, as missing end-tags means that each division
down that column is taking on the margins/paddings from the one above -
ending in disaster no matter what as the number of divisions grow.

You cannot omit end-tags for those divs, and you'll have to make sure
they are all in the right places.

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Weirdness - Extra Characters

2006-03-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Korhonen wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 Just discovered this 'bug' in some code ...


It's part of the duplicate characters bug.
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html


   .step {margin-right:-3px;}

If this does not help, you should consider providing an URL to your 
problem page.

Ingo



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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge

2006-01-23 Thread Gustavo Pimenta
Rahul,

 I'm sorry - I can't seem to see the problem on my machine (IE6/ 
 WinXPSP2). Perhaps I am merely unable to see the white border, or  
 have you fixed the problem?

My PC machine as the same setup as yours...

I've  made a screenshot of the problem:

http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg

 Lovely looking site though! Where is the design from?

The design is from http://gael.ist.utl.pt/ , where I Work.

Thanks!
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On Jan 23, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rahul Gonsalves wrote:

 Gustavo:

 Gustavo Pimenta wrote:
 Hi!

 I've a problem in the way Internet Explorer 6 displays the header  
 of  this site http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/ . There is 1px white  
 border at  the right edge.

 I'm sorry - I can't seem to see the problem on my machine (IE6/ 
 WinXPSP2). Perhaps I am merely unable to see the white border, or  
 have you fixed the problem?

 Screenshot?

 Lovely looking site though! Where is the design from?
 Thanks!
 Gustavo


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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge

2006-01-23 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Gustavo:

Gustavo Pimenta wrote:
 My PC machine as the same setup as yours...
I still can't see your problem. I've added a screenshot of my own to the 
confusion :-). [1]
It's rather large as I saved it at 12 in PS, so that you can enlarge 
it and see that there is, in fact, no 1px shift. Either that, or I need 
glasses :-(.

 I've  made a screenshot of the problem:

 http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg
Here, yes, I can see that the header seems to be shifted to the left by 
about 1px.
 Thanks!
 Gustavo
Regards,
Rahul.

[1] http://www.mentaid.in/dev/woat.jpg

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Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge

2006-01-23 Thread Gustavo Pimenta
Strange...

I've tried everything to fix the problem, but it's still there :-(

Thanks anyway, Rahul!


On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rahul Gonsalves wrote:

 Gustavo:

 Gustavo Pimenta wrote:
 My PC machine as the same setup as yours...
 I still can't see your problem. I've added a screenshot of my own  
 to the
 confusion :-). [1]
 It's rather large as I saved it at 12 in PS, so that you can enlarge
 it and see that there is, in fact, no 1px shift. Either that, or I  
 need
 glasses :-(.

 I've  made a screenshot of the problem:

 http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg
 Here, yes, I can see that the header seems to be shifted to the  
 left by
 about 1px.
 Thanks!
 Gustavo
 Regards,
 Rahul.

 [1] http://www.mentaid.in/dev/woat.jpg

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