Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone reports issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried late versions of Firefox or Chrome :-) Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the people are still using XPs. It is not easy to ignore all these people especially if you are selling something. XP systems are still suported (or extended support) by M$ until April 2014. Even after support stops, there will possibly be a greater percentage of XP with IE8 users than there have historically been with outdated browsers because older versions of, for example, DreamWeaver, do not run on Vista or 7, and IE9 (and presumably 10) does not run on XP. In this economy the cost of upgrading all software to be compatible with Windows 7 is probably beyond the reach of many businesses. *sigh* NESB __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
On 04/23/2012 10:56 AM, John D wrote: I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone reports issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried late versions of Firefox or Chrome :-) Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the people are still using XPs. It is not easy to ignore all these people especially if you are selling something. FWIW, my employer (large insurance company) recently upgraded it's official corporate browser ... from IE6 to IE7. What is this IE8 you speak of? ;-) -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
Forgot to add: when I can, I do what the original email here suggested. But that is mostly for private and non-commercial work. Still - would be good to know how many corporate browsers are IE. W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 10:28 użytkownik Tomasz Borek tomasz.bo...@gmail.com napisał: My employer (offers mostly HR software) last December dropped support of IE6. pozdrawiam, Tomasz Borek __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
My employer (offers mostly HR software) last December dropped support of IE6. pozdrawiam, Tomasz Borek __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
I'm retired. You've made it all come back. FWIW, my employer (large insurance company) recently upgraded it's official corporate browser ... from IE6 to IE7. What is this IE8 you speak of? ;-) -- GPG/PGP public key: B07F9AAE __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
I know that in some cases this not possible, but if someone reports issues with IE, I'd politely ask whether they have tried late versions of Firefox or Chrome :-) Yes but Ie8 is still widely used in XP systems and about 48% of the people are still using XPs. It is not easy to ignore all these people especially if you are selling something. For information sites you can say whatever you want because there is no revenue involved. XP systems are still supoorted (or extended support) by M$ until April 2014. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, hasLayout and ordered lists
On 7/1/10 8:34 PM, Gabriele Romanato wrote: Just a quick reminder on something happened to me yesterday: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/07/internet-explorer-haslayout-and-ordered.html HTH :-) Thanks for the reminder. Yes, layout seems to create as many problems as it fixes, or so it seems to me. One tip I'd like to add--since floats have layout, margins tend to disappear inside floated structural elements (like columns). Instead of messing with CSS to fix this problem, I simply add a padding DIV inside each column with margins and/or padding applied to it, but no height or width. A tip I picked up from Eric Meyer on CSS lo, these many years ago... Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer + CSS issues
Frederyco Martins wrote: Hello dear fellows, I'm facing a some little problems with my website and internet explorer 7 (didn't test on other versions). First bug - No hover on the illustration and contact info. Second one - Post's title are cutted at it's top. Third - A little missbehave on div's dimensions and some minor errors on padding and margin positioning. Since I am not a webdeveloper, just know some html + css + worpress basics, came hear to ask for help. This is the site http://www.fredymartins.com.br Everything works fine on Opera and Firefox, using linux and windows. Thanks a lot. Fredy. Hello Fredy. You have put IE6, IE7 and IE8 into quirksmode [1] by having a comment before the doctype [2]. !-- This loads the header -- !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; Remove that comment or IE any version will work much like IE5. This is why your hover transition doesn't work since IE6- only supports hover on links. ei. a:hover. Other issues surround the IE box model in quirksmode [2]. 1. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html 2. http://css-class.com/test/css/selectors/ie7hacktargetingopera4.htm -- Alan http://css-class.com/ Armies Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come. - Victor Hugo __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer + CSS issues
Alan Gresley wrote: [...] Hello Fredy. You have put IE6, IE7 and IE8 into quirksmode [1] by having a comment before the doctype [2]. Sorry, that is not true only IE6 is in quirksmode. IE7 maybe having trouble with the zero line-height. .titles { color:#ff; line-height:0px; } The no hover problem I can not duplicate. I think the last problem is hasLayout. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html Time for bed I guess! -- Alan http://css-class.com/ Armies Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come. - Victor Hugo __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 - 7 page correction needed
Hello. It may be because you have a inner element inside a div like a paragraph or height or long word if the div if small in which's width is wider that yoru column adn because of that the entire layout gets messed up. This had happened to me lots of times until i figured it out what caused this. Also you can start with the w3c validation of XHTML and CSS my 2 cents Regards -- --- Alexandru Dinulescu Web Developer (X)HTML/CSS Specialist On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Nasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I have reviewed my page CSS and thought I ensured that there were widths and heights to all main divs, but I still have a problem with IE 5 - 7. In IE the site content does not show up only the wrapper elements the top image, the middle background and the bottom image. I am trying to create a curved rectangle frame for the page. I am using a css model that I wonder if it is creating a conflict... it separates a reset file and a typography from the layout. I would appreciate some help reviewing my site in IE preferably 6 and 7. the page in question is www.giggleodee.com/indext.html Thank you in advance for any assistance Sui __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue
Pirkka Rannikko wrote: a href=http://www.fi; span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span /a Any ideas or similar experiences? Have you tried putting the span around the a instead of inside? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue
Pirkka Rannikko wrote: When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the menu. Also the cursor does not change on mouseover but focus outline works as usual. When the width declaration is removed or changed to auto, the link works as it should. Declaration display: inline-block; also triggers the issue as well floating the span element. You can build around this trap if you know it is there but I noticed that several CSS examples that use the Sliding Doors technique have not been tested against this. Hi Pirkka-- Any of IE's hasLayout triggers on the span element will set off this bug. In this case at least, the 100% width is superfluous (display:block covers it). The obvious fix here is to remove the width:100% from the span and apply display:block to the anchor element...and then, try to avoid triggering 'hasLayout' on the span. I understand this won't always be the case, but it fixes your example. a href=http://www.fi.com; style=display:block;zoom:1; span style=display:block;http://www.fi.com/span /a Hope it helps. --Bill -- /** * Bill Brown * TheHolierGrail.com MacNimble.com * From dot concept...to dot com...since 1999. ***/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue
Pirkka Rannikko wrote: a href=http://www.fi; span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span /a When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the menu. Also the cursor does not change on mouseover but focus outline works as usual. Thanks. I think its another of these haslayout issues. It seems to be not documented yet? The cursor issue is known and could be fixed with cursor:hand from within a conditional comment. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html http://www.dolphinsback.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Open link in new tab issue
Ingo Chao wrote: Pirkka Rannikko wrote: a href=http://www.fi; span style=display: block; width: 100%;http://www.fi/span /a When you right click the link to open the browser context menu to choose the option Open link in new tab IE6 and IE7 don't recognize the link and the usual options related to links are not shown in the menu. Thanks. I think its another of these haslayout issues. It seems to be not documented yet? We had noticed, in this test case [1], that an hasLayout box inside a link causes 'un-clickability' of included images (and loss of hand cursor), but I never noticed that it also causes this problem in the right-click menu :-) Bruno [1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/IEaL.html -- Bruno Fassino http://www.brunildo.org/test __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated
Hi Bryce, The solution I often opt for requires a bit more work, but it usually ends up being more resilient across browsers. Instead of using a bullet, use a background image that poses as a bullet. Your style would look something like: |**li { padding-left: 1em; /* This should be the width of your bullet image plus a smidge */ background: url(bullet.gif) no-repeat 0 50%; } |Hope that helps, C. Bryce Fields wrote: We are trying to create a columns of list items with the following HTML: ul liItem/li liItem/li liItem/li etc. /ul and CSS: ul { margin:0 0 1em 2em; list-style-position:outside; } li { float:left; width:33%; } The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when the list item is floated. We've found links to articles illustrating the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution. Anyone know what's going on and how we can fix it? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated
Bryce Fields wrote: We are trying to create a columns of list items with the following HTML: [snipped] The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when the list item is floated. We've found links to articles illustrating the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution. Anyone know what's going on and how we can fix it? Hi Bryce, Seems floating LIs or ULs can indeed really cause a lot of issues. After some testing, I noticed I was able to achieve showing the bullets in Firefox, but more importantly, I was also able to make them disappear in the same manner that IE does by floating the UL. Odd results indeed. My supposition is that this is because floated elements automatically become display:block, which seems to be in some way over-riding the browser's internal display as list-item styling. Anyway, I wrote a solution for you which should be fairly cross-browser friendly (no support for IE5.5). It works well from what I can tell, but will require the (semantically unnecessary) addition of another element (I used a span) inside the LI to achieve the desired look. It'll be up to you to find that balance between semantic and pedantic. I published my results here: http://www.theholiergrail.com/tests/iebullets.php Hope it helps. --Bill Brown TheHolierGrail.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Loses List Item Types When List Item is Floated
Bryce Fields wrote: The columns form as we wanted, but IE loses the list item bullet when the list item is floated. We've found links to articles illustrating the problem, but no one has a nice, semantic solution. Anyone know what's going on and how we can fix it? I know from nothing about nice semantic solutions. The default position for markers is different in IE than compliant browsers. This /may/ be one way around it. http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/g.html -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?
David, Replace position: absolute with float: left. It works for me locally on IE 7. #popupmenu{ float: left;--- add this position: absolute; --- delete this top: 598px; /* This can also be fixed or absolute*/ width: 700px; /*Format */ } Tim David Terrell wrote: Hello All, I have a couple issues. In Internet Explorer, the #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the left. I have no idea why. It displays properly in all other browsers I've checked. Here's a screenshot: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png The site: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite The css: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/styles.css Another issue: On the various sub pages which use a different stylesheet: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down which I thought might be a collapsing margin, but I used padding-top: 1px on the content which you can see and I thought that would take care of it, but it doesn't. I even used it on the #leftimage div and nothing happened. anybody see what's happening here? page: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/children.html Thanks for any help. David Terrell Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?
David Terrell wrote: Hello All, I have a couple issues. In Internet Explorer, the #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the left. I have no idea why. It displays properly in all other browsers I've checked. http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite Add... #popupmenu{ left: 0; } ...to tell IE/win where to position that element. IE/win will otherwise by default position its left edge horizontally in the middle of its parent. Another issue: On the various sub pages which use a different stylesheet: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down which I thought might be a collapsing margin, but I used padding-top: 1px on the content which you can see and I thought that would take care of it, but it doesn't. I even used it on the #leftimage div and nothing happened. anybody see what's happening here? You have one more div there - strangely named #enlcose and left unstyled AFAICS, and that div is interfering with vertical margins in non-IE browsers. Both #left-image and #main-text has 'margin-top: 280px', and one of these (#main-text) lose its margin to #enlcose, while the other (#left-image) is pushed down by its own margin-top in addition to the one that has collapsed onto #enlcose. A nice little collapsing margins conundrum :-) To solve it: delete that extra div id=enlcose in the source-code, or declare... #enlcose {padding-top: 1px;} ...to contain 'margin-top: 280px' from both #left-image and #main-text inside it, and collapsing margins won't create any more problems. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?
I have a couple issues. In Internet Explorer, the #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the left. I have no idea why. It displays properly in all other browsers I've checked. Here's a screenshot: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png The site: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite The css: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/styles.css Another issue: On the various sub pages which use a different stylesheet: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/substyles.css The #leftimage div is showing up way too far down which I thought might be a collapsing margin, but I used padding-top: 1px on the content which you can see and I thought that would take care of it, but it doesn't. I even used it on the #leftimage div and nothing happened. anybody see what's happening here? page: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/children.html Hi David, For the menu, add left:0; For the image, showing up too far down, remove the margin-top (280px) declaration from your left-image div. -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:13:50 +0900, JonMarc Wright wrote: [...] the pages are located at: http://dearcards.com/dt/index.html css can be found at http://dearcards.com/dt/css/base.css there is some extra markup in the form of some extra divs and stuff, which is intentional and is planned for use shortly. but the css doesn't work in ie 6 or 7. ... looks okay in firefox. I think the problem lies in all those 10px left margins on elements inside the #sidebar. It seems to be pushing out that sidebar beyond the 760px you put on the #wrapper. Most browsers will simply overflow the box. Internet Explorer drops the float. Try adding an extra 10px to the width of the #wrapper. Sadly, I don't have an editor that handles your Unicode, so have not tried this. BTW - You need to wrap your JavaScript in a CDATA section. Better yet, move it to an external file. You also seem undecided as to whether you are coding HTML or XHTML (?) Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems
On Nov 6, 2007 11:56 PM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryce Fields wrote: ... http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm You'll notice the font sizing in the (icky) layout table is rendering considerably smaller than what it should when compared in other browsers. Yes, the page does not validate. There is a table nested in a paragraph. Normal Browswers close the pPara to pPara/p. You can verify this in Firebug, Webkit Web Inspector, and Opera Developer Console. But IE6 and IE7 do not comply. Because your page has font-size settings on the p and of elements inside the table, IE will calculate these on a basis of the p setting. With invalid code, you are testing the error recovery capabilities of the browsers. Debugging invalid code without correcting it wastes resources. Validation should not become an end in itself. That solved the problem, Ingo, and once again drilled home the value of validated code. Thank you very much for the assist! -- Bryce Fields http://www.royalrodent.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/redlantern/ http://twitter.com/redlantern64 Do or do not! There is no try! -- Yoda We've got a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she's ordering the lobster! -- The Shoveler __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems
Bryce Fields wrote: Greetings everyone. One of our clients at Kentucky.gov is having an issue w/ the way IE inherits font sizes that I hope someone can help with. Take a look at this page here: http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm So? Any ideas? Not really, but this will turn it into a billboard: table {font-size: 12em;} Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer, Table Cells, and Ems
On 2007/11/06 11:04 (GMT-0500) Bryce Fields apparently typed: Greetings everyone. One of our clients at Kentucky.gov is having an issue w/ the way IE inherits font sizes that I hope someone can help with. Take a look at this page here: http://technology.ky.gov/epmo/epmo_team.htm You'll notice the font sizing in the (icky) layout table is rendering considerably smaller than what it should when compared in other browsers. Using the web developer bar for IE, I've traced the issue down to the table cell level where IE inexplicably decides to calculate an absolute value for the font size even though no rules target the TD. This throws off the 0.7em font size that is on the unordered list, causing it to render smaller than intended in IE. Anyone have a clue as to what's really going on and how to create a general fix for this problem. And yes, I KNOW the page doesn't validate, and I KNOW they shouldn't be using a table for layout, but this is an agency over which I have no control. I can also patch the problem fairly easily w/ an IE specific style sheet that readjusts the font sizing of the ems, but I would like to find alternate solutions if possible. So? Any ideas? I don't see any difference between FF and IE7, but I have an idea anyway: Stripping the DFh BBh BFh characters from the top of ky_technology.css might improve IE5/6 behavior. There's an instance of functionally absolute size (10px, 25% of my default) in #splashPage #terms that should be changed to relative. As is typical of gummint pages, all the fonts are much too small. .6em is less than half the size of the default, which is rarely better than completely illegible at less than half the default size. Size is a function of both height and width, so then nominal CSS .6em * .6em translates to a size of only 36%. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/area60.html When visited in Gecko browsers with a proportionally large minimum size set, the result is fonts much larger than the default, similar to the Clagnut effect: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/eonsSS.html Coupled with the px line-heights, the effect is pretty ugly. All those px line-heights need to be changed to unitless. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/line-height-inherit.html -- A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer parsing bug: invalid at-rule not ignored: more info
Gabriele Romanato wrote: Can anyone add more info and/or suggestions? Haven't really looked into @media rules and parse errors for quite some time, but AFAICS IE/win hasn't improved when served nested @media rules... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_01.html http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_08.html http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_09.html Some other old tests... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_10.html http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_11.html http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_12.html Suggestion: keep on testing, but don't use such constructions for anything serious if you can avoid it. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] internet explorer problem
ochieng' nelson wrote: http://gilroy.50webs.com/safari_style.html problem internet explorer wont render header as the other browsers do. Any help? Thanks. Nelson Best place to start is to provide valid markup-- you've 9 errors, including an extra /div on line 109. The source document shows the id #wrapper as the first division to open and the last to close. Yet in the CSS file you've set a height of 100px for #wrapper. Font-scaling at +1 in Firefox causes the right column float to drop. Get it valid and functioning in compliant browsers and bring it back if you stll have IE issues. Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer issues (was: Site check please)
Gary Benson wrote: But it looks like I have the following bugs: In case anyone's following this I fixed them all :) Here's how: IE7 and IE6: - A block of white protruding from the left edge of the content area. zoom: 1 on #pageBody (forces hasLayout) IE7 and IE6: - The text on the main page starts one line lower than it should. zoom: 1 on #contentWrap IE7 and IE6: - The list bullets misaligned http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical05.htm IE6 only: - The photo and the navigation bar are missing The zoom:1 on #pageBody fixed this. It's like a magic bullet! IE6 only: - PNG transparency is not supported I just saved all the images without transparency. Be happy, Gary -- Bath shiatsu -- http://www.relaxshiatsu.co.uk/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer clears in main content.
Christopher Blake wrote: Every browser that i have views the pages as i like. http://www.3pointdesign.com/index.html http://www.3pointdesign.com/styles/one.css Except for Internet Explorer. Now I have managed to check the problem and it also also occurs on i.e. 5.01, 5.5 6.0 for the PC. Christopher Blake I do not see a float drop viewing your page live in IE7.0 through IE5.01 on XP. And I do not see it in these browsercam captures of IE6.0 through IE5.0 (win/2000) and IE6.0 (XP).. http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=341542 Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac
On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote: Hi, I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac. It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot give me any exact numbers, but I am just wondering does it make any sense to make webpages compatible with this browser, or is it as dead as IE3 or 4 (or are they not?). Thanks for the answers, Mikolaj Misiurewicz Some mac owners have older machines that aren't powerful enough to run OSX properly and those people are stuck with IE mac. I know a few people personally in this predicament. That said, it's probably becoming more and more rare every day. I developed on IE Mac for a long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate, but many people aren't supporting it anymore. Blogger doesn't work at all for IE Mac. -C __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac
Mikolaj wrote: It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot give me any exact numbers, but I am just wondering does it make any sense to make webpages compatible with this browser, or is it as dead as IE3 or 4 (or are they not?). Hi there! If you mean IE5 for OSX then yes, it I still definitely used. Personally I think it should be developed for as standard. For example, a recent client actually viewed their website on their board room mac using IE5.2 ... We weren't to know they used macs but its just as well we developed for them! So, you shouldn't think in general internet stats, only of your audience. What do they use? Kieron McIntyre www.digbyswift.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac
After not supporting or updating IE/Mac for the last two years, Microsoft instructed Mac users in February to stop using Internet Explorer. On 6/27/06 12:58 PM, Christy Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote: Hi, I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac. It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this browser? Who use it? I understand that you cannot give me any exact numbers, but I am just wondering does it make any sense to make webpages compatible with this browser, or is it as dead as IE3 or 4 (or are they not?). Thanks for the answers, Mikolaj Misiurewicz Some mac owners have older machines that aren't powerful enough to run OSX properly and those people are stuck with IE mac. I know a few people personally in this predicament. That said, it's probably becoming more and more rare every day. I developed on IE Mac for a long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate, but many people aren't supporting it anymore. Blogger doesn't work at all for IE Mac. -C __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer for Mac
Mikolaj Misiurewicz wrote: I have a question about Internet Explorer for Mac. It it still used on the Internet? What can be the statistics for this browser? Who use it? I work for our local Newspaper, and 90% of the building/corporation uses OS9/Mac and browses with IE5.2. The reason: The system that is used to create the paper only runs on that OS/platform - We have yet to upgrade (hehe, looking forward to that.) Christy Collins wrote: ... becoming more and more rare every day. I developed on IE Mac for a long time and don't find it that challenging to accommodate... I completely agree with Christy... from my experience, IE5.2 does not need that much more work in order to get your css to work properly. Hth, Cheers, Micky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk
Tina Vance wrote: http://www.refreshcleveland.org I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet Explorer. It seems to be shoving my main content down below my sidebar, no matter what I try. Is there something I'm missing? #footer is placed 2 /div tags too high in the source-code, and is therefore affected by the padding/margin set on those other elements and is pushed to the right. IE/win can't overflow, so it pushes the container wider instead - causing the drop. Move 2 /div tags from _below_ #footer to _above_ !-- begin footer -- and the problem is solved. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Tina Vance wrote: http://www.refreshcleveland.org Move 2 /div tags from _below_ #footer to _above_ !-- begin footer -- and the problem is solved. Make that 3 /div tags, as there shouldn't be any other /div tags below #footer than #footer's own. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk
I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet Explorer. It seems to be shoving my main content down below my sidebar, no matter what I try. Is there something I'm missing? This is a common problem with alot of sites developed for open source products and news where they are not tested properly on IE. You are not alone in having this problem. Something to do with how IE treats DIV's I believe. Aaron __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Quirk
Aaron Gray wrote: This is a common problem with alot of sites developed for open source products and news where they are not tested properly on IE. You are not alone in having this problem. Something to do with how IE treats DIV's I believe. Not just DIVs, but any element. - If content doesn't fit inside, then IE/win will expand the containing element. - More standard compliant browsers - including IE7 - will let oversized content overflow the edges of its containing element, and keep the dimensions stable. That is; unless we tell them that they should allow the container to expand. Tina Vance wrote: I'm having a small (ok, not that small) issue with Internet Explorer. It seems to be shoving my main content down below my sidebar, no matter what I try. Is there something I'm missing? As mentioned earlier; yes. However, I think I missed something too. If you validate your page... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.refreshcleveland.org%2F ...then you'll see that a couple more end-tags for div are missing. If you then look at your page in any browser, you'll see that you have a kind of staircase down the left side of main column, with a few more steps than I think you've intended. That's the real problem, as missing end-tags means that each division down that column is taking on the margins/paddings from the one above - ending in disaster no matter what as the number of divisions grow. You cannot omit end-tags for those divs, and you'll have to make sure they are all in the right places. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer Weirdness - Extra Characters
Chris Korhonen wrote: Hi Guys, Just discovered this 'bug' in some code ... It's part of the duplicate characters bug. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html .step {margin-right:-3px;} If this does not help, you should consider providing an URL to your problem page. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge
Rahul, I'm sorry - I can't seem to see the problem on my machine (IE6/ WinXPSP2). Perhaps I am merely unable to see the white border, or have you fixed the problem? My PC machine as the same setup as yours... I've made a screenshot of the problem: http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg Lovely looking site though! Where is the design from? The design is from http://gael.ist.utl.pt/ , where I Work. Thanks! Gustavo ___ Web Designer | Information Architect Instituto Superior Técnico Gabinete de Apoio à Produção de Conteúdos Multimédia e e-Learning +351 21 8417523 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://gael.ist.utl.pt On Jan 23, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rahul Gonsalves wrote: Gustavo: Gustavo Pimenta wrote: Hi! I've a problem in the way Internet Explorer 6 displays the header of this site http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/ . There is 1px white border at the right edge. I'm sorry - I can't seem to see the problem on my machine (IE6/ WinXPSP2). Perhaps I am merely unable to see the white border, or have you fixed the problem? Screenshot? Lovely looking site though! Where is the design from? Thanks! Gustavo -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rahul Gonsalves Make PNG, not War. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge
Gustavo: Gustavo Pimenta wrote: My PC machine as the same setup as yours... I still can't see your problem. I've added a screenshot of my own to the confusion :-). [1] It's rather large as I saved it at 12 in PS, so that you can enlarge it and see that there is, in fact, no 1px shift. Either that, or I need glasses :-(. I've made a screenshot of the problem: http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg Here, yes, I can see that the header seems to be shifted to the left by about 1px. Thanks! Gustavo Regards, Rahul. [1] http://www.mentaid.in/dev/woat.jpg -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rahul Gonsalves Make PNG, not War. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer 6 | 1px white border at the right edge
Strange... I've tried everything to fix the problem, but it's still there :-( Thanks anyway, Rahul! On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rahul Gonsalves wrote: Gustavo: Gustavo Pimenta wrote: My PC machine as the same setup as yours... I still can't see your problem. I've added a screenshot of my own to the confusion :-). [1] It's rather large as I saved it at 12 in PS, so that you can enlarge it and see that there is, in fact, no 1px shift. Either that, or I need glasses :-(. I've made a screenshot of the problem: http://woat2006.ist.utl.pt/woat2006_problem.jpg Here, yes, I can see that the header seems to be shifted to the left by about 1px. Thanks! Gustavo Regards, Rahul. [1] http://www.mentaid.in/dev/woat.jpg -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rahul Gonsalves Make PNG, not War. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/