Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-27 Thread Jody Levinson
Bob, thank you so much. Looking at your file pointed out a small  
omission from my HTML that was causing the problem. I think I'm just  
about there now. The one thing that I'm still not able to track down  
and it seems like it should be easy is the right padding. It should be  
obvious, but I can't budge it!

Jody

http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/newnavtest.html
http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/test1.css

On Oct 25, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Bob Meetin wrote:

 Jody Levinson wrote:
 It's not working for me 'out of the box' either. Unless I'm
 implementing it wrong. Do you have a sample of it working in a
 vertical menu to level 3 that I could look at to compare? Your page
 that you referred me to only goes to level 2.

 Thanks!

 Try this example.  I have not worked this into the menu sampler, but I
 have it set up with both a horizontal and a vertical drop-down menu  
 and
 added the  level3 options to both.  I tested it in both Firefox and  
 IE6,
 also IE7 and the version of Safari installed on Windows.

 http://dottedi.biz/codesamples/double-menu.php

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Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-27 Thread Jody Levinson
Hi, Bob,

I'm going to copy to the group, since you've already been SUCH a huge  
help and I hate to impose.

I've got the text aligned-right, but as you say, it needs a little  
padding on the right so that the characters are not on the border.  
Normally this is pretty easy to do. You experiment with adjusting  
padding and li widths and do a little math and with some trial and  
error, it all works out. I've tried everything I can think of in this  
and I can't create any space to the right of the text in the menu at  
any level. Nor can I figure out why the hover is 2-3 pixels wider than  
the main block on the right of the flyout levels. I've made dozens of  
changes and nothing I've tried moves the text on both normal and hover  
states without also throwing off the width of the menu and the white  
border at the bottom of each item.

The site is here: http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/
The css is here: http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/styles.css

Once again, thank you Bob. You were a life-saver on this.

Jody

On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Bob Meetin wrote:

 what do you mean by budge?  with the vmenu you are intentionally  
 doing a right align, yes?  i'm guessing that you want to give some  
 padding on the right so that characters, images are not on the  
 border.  i have not looked, but in my experiments when you start  
 including left or right padding you have to start doing some math  
 with the li widths, and perhaps some additional math with widths on  
 the links themselves.  maybe also math to account for borders as  
 well.  -b

 Jody Levinson wrote:
 Bob, thank you so much. Looking at your file pointed out a small   
 omission from my HTML that was causing the problem. I think I'm  
 just  about there now. The one thing that I'm still not able to  
 track down  and it seems like it should be easy is the right  
 padding. It should be  obvious, but I can't budge it!

 Jody

 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/newnavtest.html
 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/test1.css

 On Oct 25, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Bob Meetin wrote:


 Jody Levinson wrote:

 It's not working for me 'out of the box' either. Unless I'm
 implementing it wrong. Do you have a sample of it working in a
 vertical menu to level 3 that I could look at to compare? Your page
 that you referred me to only goes to level 2.

 Thanks!


 Try this example.  I have not worked this into the menu sampler,  
 but I
 have it set up with both a horizontal and a vertical drop-down  
 menu  and
 added the  level3 options to both.  I tested it in both Firefox  
 and  IE6,
 also IE7 and the version of Safari installed on Windows.

 http://dottedi.biz/codesamples/double-menu.php


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Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-25 Thread tedd
At 5:45 PM -0700 10/24/08, Jody Levinson wrote:
It's not working for me 'out of the box' either. Unless I'm
implementing it wrong. Do you have a sample of it working in a
vertical menu to level 3 that I could look at to compare? Your page
that you referred me to only goes to level 2.

Three levels, that's easy enough. Try this:

http://sperling.com/examples/menuv/

Cheers,

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Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-25 Thread Bob Meetin
Jody Levinson wrote:
 It's not working for me 'out of the box' either. Unless I'm  
 implementing it wrong. Do you have a sample of it working in a  
 vertical menu to level 3 that I could look at to compare? Your page  
 that you referred me to only goes to level 2.

 Thanks!
   
Try this example.  I have not worked this into the menu sampler, but I 
have it set up with both a horizontal and a vertical drop-down menu and 
added the  level3 options to both.  I tested it in both Firefox and IE6, 
also IE7 and the version of Safari installed on Windows. 

http://dottedi.biz/codesamples/double-menu.php

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Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-24 Thread Jody Levinson
It's not working for me 'out of the box' either. Unless I'm  
implementing it wrong. Do you have a sample of it working in a  
vertical menu to level 3 that I could look at to compare? Your page  
that you referred me to only goes to level 2.

Thanks!

On Oct 23, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Bob Meetin wrote:

 I'd take a look but I have another pressing project.  If the 3rd  
 level is not working, either I don't have the CSS or HTML correct or  
 didn't have the time with the examples.  Out of the box it works.
 I know that I use an if_ie construct to keep some pieces synced  
 between IE and Firefox.  Undoubtedly I can retrieve the vanilla EM  
 code if you want to take a look.  It's around.  And for the record,  
 the first couple times especially I took an extraordinary amount of  
 time to figure it out.
 -Bob

 Jody Levinson wrote:
 OK, so I redid the menus using the code  Bob pointed me at and  
 they  are working better and look promising for IE6. I'm still  
 having some  issues that I can't quite track down.

 The new page is here: http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/newnavtest.html
 And the css for the menus is here: 
 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/test1.css

 In FF, in the vertical menu, the third level isn't working at all  
 and  the widths of the second level are a little screwy with the  
 text  running over the right edge.

 In IE6, on the horizontal menu, when you hover, the block widens   
 enough to pop the last item to the next line. I can't track down   
 what's doing that.

 In the vertical menu, the third level also isn't working, the  
 heights  of the items change on hover and the widths aren't working  
 the same as  in FF.

 But I feel I'm making progress!

 Any help on these issues is very much appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Jody


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Bob Meetin wrote:



 Jody Levinson wrote:

 These menus work so well in IE7 and FF, but they are completely
 unusable in IE6. Can anyone please help or point me toward some
 resources to resolve it or work around it?

 Thank you.

 http://atlas-inspection.com/newsite/

 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/styles.css

 Thank you for any assistance!

 Jody

 I have a number of menu examples of drop-down menus based on  
 the  Eric
 Meyer examples from 'More Eric Meyer on CSS' on this page.   
 They  use a
 csshover.htc file to make it work in IE6.

 http://www.dottedi.biz/codesamples/

 My question, what does fly-out menu actually mean?

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Re: [css-d] flyout menus + IE6 making progress, still need help

2008-10-23 Thread Jody Levinson
OK, so I redid the menus using the code  Bob pointed me at and they  
are working better and look promising for IE6. I'm still having some  
issues that I can't quite track down.

The new page is here: http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/newnavtest.html
And the css for the menus is here: 
http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/test1.css

In FF, in the vertical menu, the third level isn't working at all and  
the widths of the second level are a little screwy with the text  
running over the right edge.

In IE6, on the horizontal menu, when you hover, the block widens  
enough to pop the last item to the next line. I can't track down  
what's doing that.

In the vertical menu, the third level also isn't working, the heights  
of the items change on hover and the widths aren't working the same as  
in FF.

But I feel I'm making progress!

Any help on these issues is very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Jody


On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Bob Meetin wrote:




 Jody Levinson wrote:
 These menus work so well in IE7 and FF, but they are completely
 unusable in IE6. Can anyone please help or point me toward some
 resources to resolve it or work around it?

 Thank you.

 http://atlas-inspection.com/newsite/

 http://www.atlas-inspection.com/newsite/styles.css

 Thank you for any assistance!

 Jody

 I have a number of menu examples of drop-down menus based on the  
 Eric
 Meyer examples from 'More Eric Meyer on CSS' on this page.  They  
 use a
 csshover.htc file to make it work in IE6.

 http://www.dottedi.biz/codesamples/

 My question, what does fly-out menu actually mean?

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 Bob Meetin
 www.dottedi.biz
 303-926-0167

 Hook up with me on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Plaxo Pulse and Bebo
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