[CTRL] Stargate Edinburgh
-Caveat Lector- well, I suppose that I'd better post this - It is a theory made out of available evidence - I happen to think its pretty accurate - see what you think. Commis Beaumont wrote a book in 1923 called 'Britain Key to World History' it is a revisionist history which puts the UK as the centre of most of the best 'ancient action'. It is a book that is very hard to come by in the UK. Prof Stephanos, a CIA lecturer in the USA currently holds the copyright. The book says Many controversial things - and puts Edinburgh - as the source and heart of the wandering tribes of Celtia and Israel. Edinburgh was some sort of jerusalem in the ancient world, but has been the victim of a conspiratorial ancient cover up. So what is the evidence for this - is there any - and the answer is that the local masonic establishment believes so. Near Rosslyn on an aristocrats estate outside Edinburgh, there is an archetectural folly in the woods built in the 18th century. Berobed people descend into the crypt, and in true tradition of raiders of the lost ark, put a rod a cubit long in a hole a beam of light comes down the specially constructed shaft, and the resultant shadow - called the 'tena brosa' is the shadow of the latitude of the 'real' Jersusalem. Apparently, shadows vary because of the curvature of the Earth. The ancient world, according to an expert in art of antiquity, had only the resources to cast two massive bronzes in Rome. - of a horsed figure. One stood in the Centre plaza of Rome, the other in 'Jerusalem'. A bronze foot was excavated from a buried horde of loot in the Borders of Scotland. Recent excavation of a Funereal Lion from Cramond Edinburgh is a revelation about the status of Edinburgh as no savage frontier town would have such a statue - one of a pair. We were all taught in school that hadrians wall was built to keep the savage blue woad covered scots [aka mel gibsons braveheart] out of highly civilised England - but that is a direct untruth. The vellum or ditch of Hadrians Wall is on the English side - in other words to keep the Southerners out of Scotland. To the North of the Forth valley and Edinburgh is a second Roman Wall, the Antonine Wall, built to keep the Northerners out of Central Scotland. A place of lead and silver mines, agriculture and a place of incredible learning and druidic colleges. Pontious Pilate was born North of Perth at Fortingale, Killin. A PhD in Ethnology has found that all the place names of East Central Scotland around Edinburgh have been either erased or changed. Roman sign posts in that area have been defaced in that period. What we ask was the incredible heresy committed in this area. Of course, it doesn't suggest that what we know of Middle eastern archaeology is fraudulent, but it suggests that Edinburgh aka Dun-Edain [hill of the home of the Gods] was a place which severely annoyed the Romans. What else I know of the mystery I have gradually pieced together. Arthurs Seat, hill of Edinburgh, the City of the Lion [of Judah] indicates that the Arthurian mythos occured in the area. Merlins grave at Norham, Camaelyn [camelot?] near Falkirk and Bonnybridge - and that area now one of the most active UFO hotspots in the World. Between Edinburgh and Bonnybridge in the so-called UFO triangle, it has been reported by the Daily Record, that people have more chance of winning the National Lottery than in anywhere else in the UK. Edinburgh is a City surrounded by 7 Hills - a very revelation-like fact and it is also full of Pretenders to a possible new throne and messiah. Home of the New World Order trust funds in its Banking centre - and also the Bloodline Chapel at Rosslyn - it could be poised to become a place where at least the 'Second Coming of something' may wish to show face. All the pretenders claim descent from Christ - some via the Magdelene line or Rose-line. Yes, but what was this ancient heresy that so p**d the Romans off, and further medieval monks during the 14th Century further deleted and distorted the place names and their meaning. Well I got a clue one night when I bluffed my way into the local masonic social club ... as one does ... and the locals are the salt of the Earth. The place was packed and there was a wee guy doing an elvis style act, with laser lights and smoke and spangly white suit and wiggling his hips about .. then from the gallery came the enthusiastic exclamation from a lady .. 'gaun yersel Bilbo Baggins !' roughly translated into English 'continue to parade your manhood fine fellow, you are emulating Bilbo Baggins' to which people in the audience went 'S !!' Having read Lord of the Rings I realised that Bilbo baggins was a master of that dreaded evil ring thing that was responsible for the fall of decent men [ie. women] and that that belief in the evil temptaions of women was very Gnostic and another reason why women are not allowed in a Lodge. But that made me realise that the Returning King [Elessar] was
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: PIKE, ALBERT
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: Subject: PIKE, ALBERT Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:05:57 -0600 From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dstdb=handboo kdoc_id=6886query=scottish+rite PIKE, ALBERT (1809-1891). As a staunch Whig and later a Know-Nothing, he championed many internal-improvement causes against the Democratic majority in Arkansas. In other posts it has been suggested that Pike was in some sort of Catholic underground. Yet, it mentions here that he was a member of the "Know-Nothin" party. If I remember correctly, it was a very anti-Catholic group. And, of course, the Mason were not all that Catholic friendly either. This does not seem to jibe. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stargate Edinburgh
-Caveat Lector- Well Andrew, may I join you. I have a grape wine cooler in the fridge. I am interested in Pat Robertson. Over here in America, he is the born again Christian who ran against George Bush, and lost. He has the 700 Club and if he is now to be God's Banker, I need a drink too. So, here's to you kid. If its a full moon, however, I would lock all the doors. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis: March 8, 1999
Listen to Stratfor Analysts discuss the latest in World Affairs Visit http://www.stratfor.com Global Intelligence Update Red Alert March 8, 1999 Four Intelligence Scandals and a Culture War Summary: Four intelligence scandals blew up in the past week or so: A blown U.S. intelligence collection operation in Iraq; Chinese theft of nuclear weapons secrets from Los Alamos; the claim that Israel's Mossad had taped Clinton having phone sex with Monica Lewinsky and was using it to blackmail Clinton into stopping a mole hunt for an Israeli agent in the White House; and suspicion that Greece had traded U.S. and NATO jamming codes to the Russians. However true each of these is, somebody has clearly launched a campaign against the Clinton White House. Depending on your point of view, this is either another in an endless series of attempts by a vast right-wing conspiracy to discredit the President or a desperate attempt to warn the country about the incompetence or malfeasance of the Administration. But it does not strike us as accidental that these four reports all hit the major media within a few days of each other. We see a "culture war" underway between the Clinton Administration and the national security apparatus. Underlying it is a fundamental disagreement as to the nature of the international system, the threat faced by the United States and the appropriate policies that ought to be followed. Analysis: What made last week remarkable was the sudden, simultaneous emergence of four completely unconnected stories of espionage and international duplicity. The stories varied widely over content and time frame. What they had in common was that each involved the United States in some way and all broke into the headlines within a few days of each other. We present them here in no particular order: * A report in the Washington Post asserted that the Central Intelligence Agency had placed agents on the staff of UNSCOM, the United Nations unit that had been assigned to inspect Iraqi weapons production facilities under UN Security Council resolutions. Claims that the weapons inspectors were being used by the CIA had been circulating for months. Indeed, Saddam Hussein had created a major crisis when he decided not to permit American members of the team into Iraq because they were, according to him, CIA agents. Two things made the Post story interesting. First, it provided some hints as to how the U.S. had used UNSCOM remote monitoring to intercept Iraqi communications. Second, the Post story appears to have originated within official Washington circles and has not been met with a spate of denials. * The New York Times broke a story late in the week that claimed that Chinese intelligence had penetrated Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and that it had, over many years, extracted technical information on the construction of miniaturized nuclear warheads. Such miniaturization is critical for the construction of warheads with multiple, independently targeted, re-entry vehicles (MIRVs), which the United States and Soviet Union had built, but which China had not been able to construct until they had allegedly stolen plans from Los Alamos. Apparently, the theft had been discovered in 1995, but according to these reports, the Clinton Administration had deliberately ignored the warnings because creating a public crisis would interfere with the Administration's plans for engagement with China. The Administration did not deny the espionage claim, but did state that they had tightened security. * The New York Post published a story claiming that a book written by Gordon Thomas would claim that Israel's Mossad had tapped Monica Lewinsky's phone (along with another, unnamed intelligence agency) and had recorded her having phone sex with the President. The story went on to claim that Mossad had used the tapes to blackmail Clinton. The President then called off a hunt for a suspected Israeli mole in the White House because of Israeli threats that they would release the tapes. In a later interview, Thomas backed off the blackmail claims, stating that Danny Yatom, head of Mossad at the time, had ruled out blackmail. He continued to maintain that Mossad had obtained the tapes. * Last weekend, the Washington Post broke a story stating that the United States had temporarily halted the sale of aircraft to Greece. The reason was that evidence had come to light that Greece, a U.S. ally and member of NATO, had provided the Russians with extremely sensitive codes that would enable someone to jam NATO aircraft. In exchange, according to the reports, Russia gave Greece a system known as SPN-2, which would interfere with the targeting capabilities of NATO aircraft. Presumably, Greece would have used this system against Turkey. Once the reports surfaced, Washington asserted that weapons sales to Greece would resume, because
[CTRL] Copyright's Commons
-Caveat Lector- from: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/eldredvreno/ A HREF="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/eldredvreno/"Copyright's Commons/A - Embeds and links. Om K - Copyright's Commons Thank you for your interest in Copyright's Commons, a coalition devoted to promoting the public availability of literature, art, music,and film. We believe that a vibrant public domain is essential to preserving and building upon our cultural heritage. The recent enactment of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act has restricted access to thousands of works that helped define the twentieth century and that had been slated to at last enter the public domain. Copyright's Commons is a collective voice in support of the effort in Eldred v. Reno to overturn the copyright extension statute. A strong public campaign is critical for a successful attack against longer copyrights. Proponents of the statute include deep-pocketed entertainment giants with a large financial stake in exploiting their commercially viable works. Copyright's Commons represents the much larger and therefore less concentrated majority who are harmed by a diminished public domain - the local bands, choirs, theaters, and libraries that must continue to pay for copyrighted materials; the current artists who cannot build upon the ideas of a former generation; and the general public without free access to important pieces of American culture. A formidable opposition to copyright extension ensures that Eldred v. Reno will be a high profile case in championing the public interest. The case is essentially a fight to enforce the Constitutional mandate for a "limited" period of copyright protection -- a balance, rather than an indefinitely extended government monopoly on speech -- consistent with the overall promotion of the public good. Copyright's Commons maintains this website as a forum for (public domain, of course) discussions. We welcome all comments. Visit the plaintiff, Eric Eldred's website. Eldred v. Reno Legal Documents: Click here to read the complaint filed in United States District Court for the District of Columbia. Click here to read the Copyright Extension Act Click below to read recent news stories about the case. New York Times, by Carl Kaplan, Jan. 15, 1999 (free registration required) Boston Globe, Jan. 13, 1999 CNet Article, Jan. 12, 1999 A Mickey Mouse Copyright Law, Wired News, Jan. 13, 1999 Click here to join Copyright's Commons or to get more information about our cause. CTEA(html format) | CTEA(pdf format) | Eldred v. Reno | Registration Eldritch Press | Site Map | CTEA in the News | Links This site was last modified on 2-3-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis: March 8, 1999
-Caveat Lector- And here I thought the notion of a "VRWC" went out the window after HRC referred to that theory sometime ago on the Today show. Guess it hasn't outlived its "usefulness" after all Kris Millegan wrote: Subject: Weekly Analysis: March 8, 1999 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:55:41 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Listen to Stratfor Analysts discuss the latest in World Affairs Visit http://www.stratfor.com Global Intelligence Update Red Alert March 8, 1999 Four Intelligence Scandals and a Culture War Summary: Four intelligence scandals blew up in the past week or so: A blown U.S. intelligence collection operation in Iraq; Chinese theft of nuclear weapons secrets from Los Alamos; the claim that Israel's Mossad had taped Clinton having phone sex with Monica Lewinsky and was using it to blackmail Clinton into stopping a mole hunt for an Israeli agent in the White House; and suspicion that Greece had traded U.S. and NATO jamming codes to the Russians. However true each of these is, somebody has clearly launched a campaign against the Clinton White House. Depending **on your point of view, this is either another in an endless series of attempts by a vast right-wing conspiracy to discredit the President or a desperate attempt to warn the country about the incompetence or malfeasance of the Administration. ** But it does not strike us as accidental that these four reports all hit the major media within a few days of each other. We see a "culture war" underway between the Clinton Administration and the national security apparatus. Underlying it is a fundamental disagreement as to the nature of the international system, the threat faced by the United States and the appropriate policies that ought to be followed. --snip Regards, -A http://www.erols.com/mack97 "The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Copyright's Commons
-Caveat Lector- I thought copyrights were for intellectual properties, and never though of Sonny Bono as an intellectual; in fact, never thought of Sony Bono. What is this new law.don't remember reading of that one. What are they going to copyright now, the U.S. Constitution. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Somebody tell me that none of this is real...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this more government coverups, or someone's imagination run amok? Somebody tell me that none of this is real...please! SoCal Concentration Camps - Locations In LA And Ventura Counties From Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 3-7-99 http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/campssoca.htm Note - If any of you can get to these locations and take some photos, we would appreciate seeing them and will add them to this story. Suggest you use caution and take a zoom lens along. Thanks to Don for this information. Concentration Camp Locations in Southern California For all you disbeliever's and gun control idiots who think the government knows best, I've compiled a short list of camps you can visit. These camps have armed guards, surveillance systems, and many fences with the barbed wire pointing IN. If you voted for gun-control, then you probably deserve a place in one of these things, as you've sold not only you and your own children down the road, but me and mine as well. Thanks a lot. 1. PEARBLOSSOM, CALIFORNIA: Located at the intersection of Ave 116 and the Pearblossom Highway, this is a full-service facility, complete with gas chambers, moat, machine gun towers, and roving armed patrols. Visit at your own risk. If you do decide to see this one, you will be descended upon by some very mean fellows, who will get your ID and license, then monitor you. 2. FILMORE, CALIFORNIA: Located on highway 126, this at first glance looks like an orange grove and is located on the north side of the highway. It sports guard centers, three--count em--three sets of fences, all pointing in, and some very nasty armed men who tell you to "mind your own business." This camp is huge. 3. SANTA PAULA, CALIFORNIA: This is a holding camp, designed as a stock-yard type of facility for those rounded up in the early sweeps. 4. VALENCIA, CALIFORNIA: This is one of the largest camps ever constructed and measures some two miles by three miles, using the resivoir at the intersection of the 5 and 405 freeways as a cover. New buildings, armed guards, new roads, and many hundreds of buildings for housing the damned. 5. GLENDALE, CALIFORNIA: Right behind Brand Park, take the 5 interstate to Western Ave, then head north up the hill till you arrive at the park. Then take the road -- by foot -- by the doctor's house on the northwestern part of the park. Proceed up the hill to you reach the resivoir, which is in fact, a holding facility. When we were there last, there were five armed guards with M16s walking around. --- Commentary on the Concentration Camps - By Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear friends, Recently, I sent out to the various news media an extremely small list of Concentration Camps recently built by your United States Government. As it happens, very few journalists acted upon the information and shared it with listeners/viewers/readers. Of course, once the information was made public, I've now become slandered, attacked, and called all sorts of names and the like. How interesting it is that when we bring truth to our world, the messenger is killed, even if symbolically. Many of us in the media have been aware of these hideous camps since their inception. It only takes a look at the history of this century to know what will happen in them once they are populated. The heart shudders at such knowledge but ignoring it won't make it go away. The only answer is to get the information out there in the world and make our elected government answer. I've personally visited these camps and have taken pictures. They are REAL. They are manned. They have moats, motion sensors, inner berms to hide the main complexes, guards at the gates, electric gates, processing centers, and of course, high fences with razor wire and barbed pointing inward - not outward - but inward to KEEP PEOPLE IN. The larger facilities are called golf courses or water treatment plants. When was the last time you saw a golf course (Portland, Oregon) with armed guards carrying M16s? Why do the larger facilities have smokestacks? Ever see a crematorium? The smaller facilities are usually holding facilities, obviously designed for the short-term roundups prior to the hapless souls being shipped off to their final destination somewhere else. You have to know that it was never my intention to uncover this information to frighten anyone nor to get publicity, as so many claim. As my readers are well aware, I stumbled upon this stuff in research for a new book. I have a family and want to see them grow up and they want to have a father that is alive, not dead. Reporting this type of information has made me very unpopular with the government and I've been warned many times by the FBI to 'mind my own business.' Unlike many of my contemporaries, I've chosen to research these camp claims for myself. I HAD to see them with my own eyes. They do exist. But the real question that needs to be asked - and asked fast
[CTRL] Andrew: Stargate Edinburgh
-Caveat Lector- Andrew: I've lived just long enough to realize the need for taking any version of established historical "fact" with a very LARGE grain of salt. All "history," no matter how sincerely or "factually" presented, will always be tainted by the perspective/ethnocentrism of the writer or observer. As such, this interpretation of medieval chronology is just as believable as any other--including the "standard" one. For me, only a true account of civilizations' past would be of any surprise. Edward At 05:33 AM 3/8/99 +, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- well, I suppose that I'd better post this - It is a theory made out of available evidence - I happen to think its pretty accurate - see what you think. Commis Beaumont wrote a book in 1923 called 'Britain Key to World History' it is a revisionist history which puts the UK as the centre of most of the best 'ancient action'. It is a book that is very hard to come by in the UK. Prof Stephanos, a CIA lecturer in the USA currently holds the copyright. The book says Many controversial things - and puts Edinburgh - as the source and heart of the wandering tribes of Celtia and Israel. Edinburgh was some sort of jerusalem in the ancient world, but has been the victim of a conspiratorial ancient cover up. So what is the evidence for this - is there any - and the answer is that the local masonic establishment believes so. Near Rosslyn on an aristocrats estate outside Edinburgh, there is an archetectural folly in the woods built in the 18th century. Berobed people descend into the crypt, and in true tradition of raiders of the lost ark, put a rod a cubit long in a hole a beam of light comes down the specially constructed shaft, and the resultant shadow - called the 'tena brosa' is the shadow of the latitude of the 'real' Jersusalem. Apparently, shadows vary because of the curvature of the Earth. The ancient world, according to an expert in art of antiquity, had only the resources to cast two massive bronzes in Rome. - of a horsed figure. One stood in the Centre plaza of Rome, the other in 'Jerusalem'. A bronze foot was excavated from a buried horde of loot in the Borders of Scotland. Recent excavation of a Funereal Lion from Cramond Edinburgh is a revelation about the status of Edinburgh as no savage frontier town would have such a statue - one of a pair. We were all taught in school that hadrians wall was built to keep the savage blue woad covered scots [aka mel gibsons braveheart] out of highly civilised England - but that is a direct untruth. The vellum or ditch of Hadrians Wall is on the English side - in other words to keep the Southerners out of Scotland. To the North of the Forth valley and Edinburgh is a second Roman Wall, the Antonine Wall, built to keep the Northerners out of Central Scotland. A place of lead and silver mines, agriculture and a place of incredible learning and druidic colleges. Pontious Pilate was born North of Perth at Fortingale, Killin. A PhD in Ethnology has found that all the place names of East Central Scotland around Edinburgh have been either erased or changed. Roman sign posts in that area have been defaced in that period. What we ask was the incredible heresy committed in this area. Of course, it doesn't suggest that what we know of Middle eastern archaeology is fraudulent, but it suggests that Edinburgh aka Dun-Edain [hill of the home of the Gods] was a place which severely annoyed the Romans. What else I know of the mystery I have gradually pieced together. Arthurs Seat, hill of Edinburgh, the City of the Lion [of Judah] indicates that the Arthurian mythos occured in the area. Merlins grave at Norham, Camaelyn [camelot?] near Falkirk and Bonnybridge - and that area now one of the most active UFO hotspots in the World. Between Edinburgh and Bonnybridge in the so-called UFO triangle, it has been reported by the Daily Record, that people have more chance of winning the National Lottery than in anywhere else in the UK. Edinburgh is a City surrounded by 7 Hills - a very revelation-like fact and it is also full of Pretenders to a possible new throne and messiah. Home of the New World Order trust funds in its Banking centre - and also the Bloodline Chapel at Rosslyn - it could be poised to become a place where at least the 'Second Coming of something' may wish to show face. All the pretenders claim descent from Christ - some via the Magdelene line or Rose-line. Yes, but what was this ancient heresy that so p**d the Romans off, and further medieval monks during the 14th Century further deleted and distorted the place names and their meaning. Well I got a clue one night when I bluffed my way into the local masonic social club ... as one does ... and the locals are the salt of the Earth. The place was packed and there was a wee guy doing an elvis style act, with laser lights and smoke and spangly white suit and wiggling his hips about .. then from the gallery came the enthusiastic exclamation from a lady
Re: [CTRL] Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy Concerns
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/7/99 11:17:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy Concerns I'm sure they'll take care of this right away. That sure takes a load off of my mind. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Concentration Camps FEMA New World Order Antichrist Conspiracy
This FEMA is really getting a rather bad name; the above subject matter, or below subject matter, I thought might be of interest. I have heard of the camps for some time now; on the west coast you have AFB, and of course Denver area and Boulder is to do with the weather modification system, radar, etc. Quartering troops in time of peace; preparing for war; and if it be true these are federal military civilian prisioner camps, isn't the military crossing a line that is forbidden ... This item is worth looking into; there is something going on As for this Scott Ritter who was sacked from UN inspections; this man is the worst possible type of a storm trooper type, who allegedly was employed by the Massod to get something on Irag. I had a friend, MI6 who went on UN tours, and he said of course you know what they areand winked. Yes, I knew - and this guy once told me that if the CIA wanted to pay him $300 a month to sit around in bars and drink beer - well. But the CIA had the cute habit of sending his mail to his PO box, using CIA envelopes which drew attention to him at times...this guy stood 6'7, had gotten MS in India, retired out, but still remained in intelligence work. Somehow he ended up in my office, but I did like him. Now my old friends - most of them anyway - would have been right on this stuff about concentration camps. If they are being built, I hope they are for new commentators, late night talk show hosts, and Jerry Springer and his castand I am glad we have a militia if the day is coming when we have to take on the Feds in full scale war. Amen. http://www.mt.net/~watcher/fema5.html
[CTRL] Teo: Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy//
-Caveat Lector- Teo: I'm sure they'll take care of this right away. That sure takes a load off of my mind. Teo1000 Yeah, and I'm sure Uncle Bill would be glad to sell you some Arizona beach property too :-) Edward DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FEMA - Mount Weather
-Caveat Lector- http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/fema.htm http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/fema.htm concentration canps worldnetdaily http://www.mt.net/~watcher/fema5.html http://www.mt.net/~watcher/fema5.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy Concerns
-Caveat Lector- On 8 Mar 99, at 1:20, Teo One Thousand wrote: I'm sure they'll take care of this right away. That sure takes a load off of my mind. Teo1000 Me too. Bill Gates is the Antichrist, BTW. Works for the NSA, CIA, DIA, etc. etc., ad nauseum. He is really rich though. Most Amerikans really respect that. So be it. Steve Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL TODAY'S MP3: Laura's Aura, by Combustible Edison http://www.mp3.com/music/Alternative/10723.html ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Privacy Bank Rules Crushed
-Caveat Lector- Congraulations to all that have been activite in opposing the rule known as "Know Your Customer". More than privacy in Banking is involved here. Question: Has anyone set up a Petition site for those opposed to this rule to sign? Question: Does anyone know how I can obtain the E-Mail addresses of all members of the House and Senate as well as the White House? Thanks DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pointing a finger now a 'terrorist threat'
-Caveat Lector- Begin Forwarded Message Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 20:54:02 -0800 Subject: BENT - news Monday 3/8 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B E N T -news News to Amuse -- brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday by SodaMail Press. Check out all the free SodaMail newsletters at: http://www.sodamail.com. OOPS, NEVER MIND -- Terry Williams was a passenger in a car that nearly collided with another car in Oakland, Ca. Williams leaned out of the car with his arms extended and his hands clasped as though he were holding a gun and yelled "bang." The driver of the second car was a Secret Service agent who responded by pulling a real gun and yelling "police." Williams sped off but the agent caught up and arrested him on a charge of making a terrorist threat. (AP) --took all the fun out of it If you have any B E N T stories or good links e-mail them to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know someone who would be interested in reading B E N T -news please forward this entire message to them. SUBSCRIBING to subscribe send a blank e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe in the body of the message. UNSUBSCRIBING To cancel your subscription send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Copyright 1999 by SodaMail. All rights reserved. http://www.sodamail.com End Forwarded Message June *===* The world is coming to an end. Log off and leave in an orderly fashion. *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Teo: Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy//
-Caveat Lector- How can that be "news" if they have been doing it for ten years. And don't call me stupid, you big jerk. I got a pit bull. You know in 1890 they could lock a file cabinet, and a secret would be safe; today we got the military worried about "Russian Hackers" when they gave away the system; banks trying to fight the feds so every time we make a big deposit of drug money they do not have to do the extra paper work.black helipcopters flying around the country with hundreds of concentration camps being prepared for civilians - what me worry? I will let the paranoids carry this burden alone; I do not need another albagtross on my back. I got a dog to support. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 3/8/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Bananas and Drugs Caribbean Community Threatens to Pull Out of Drug Treaty The U.S. is punishing Europe for not punishing Caribbean bananas Caribbean countries are threatening to renege on a treaty with the US to fight drug trafficking in retaliation for Washington's stance in its "banana war" with the European Union. The US moved to impose trade penalties on the EU last week, accusing it of failing to comply with a World Trade Organisation ruling that its banana import policies favoured Caribbean growers at the expense of Latin American producers. The Caribbean Community (Caricom), a 15-member regional trade group, said at the weekend that its members were reconsidering the drug control pact and would also not honour several economic pacts because of Washington's decision to impose sanctions on European imports. The Caribbean move came as the EU prepared to seek support today from the 134 countries of the WTO at a meeting in Geneva. Caricom said that, by imposing sanctions on EU exports, the US had "undermined the essence" of agreements between Caribbean leaders and President Bill Clinton two years ago on trade and security. "The US has taken action not only to damage our bananas but to penalise Europe for not taking action to damage our bananas," said Edwin Carrington, Caricom's secretary general. "In the light of that, we have to review the agreement we have." Under a controversial treaty with the US, reluctantly signed by several Caribbean governments, US law enforcement agencies are allowed to pursue suspected drug traffickers into the countries' territorial waters and air space. The Caribbean stance will be formally put to Madeleine Albright, US secretary of state, when she meets Caribbean Community foreign ministers in Washington next month. The UK has also been forcefully pressing the case for Caribbean economies. On Saturday, Robin Cook, the UK foreign secretary, urged Ms Albright to end the damaging dispute. In a statement released by the Foreign Office, he said: "The damage to our trade could be real." The British prime minister, Tony Blair, is expected to hold further talks with Mr Clinton in an attempt to reach a settlement in the banana dispute. Mr Blair's spokesman said he was well aware that Washington was under political pressure to apply sanctions to the EU. "We will see if there is anything we can do to help the US administration overcome these political issues," he said. However, Mr Blair has already made it clear to Mr Clinton that Washington must lift the sanctions immediately. The UK government holds out little hope of the specially convened meeting of the WTO in Geneva resolving the stalemate today. The EU asked for the urgent meeting of the WTO's general council after Washington last week told importers of EU products ranging from Scottish cashmere sweaters to Italian pecorino cheese to post a bond of 100 per cent of the goods' value. The general council cannot force the US to back down but the EU hopes WTO members will condemn Washington's action. The EU also launched a formal WTO complaint against the US. The Financial Times, March 8, 1999 Assassination Politics CIA Plotted Saddam Coup, but White House Pulled Out Then FBI arrested 5-man CIA team THE CIA mounted a coup operation against Saddam Hussein in 1995, even setting March 4 as the date. But the plan was ditched at the last minute when the White House withdrew support. Details published in Le Journal du Dimanche in Paris follow disclosures that the CIA infiltrated teams of United Nations weapons inspectors in Iraq, among them nine officials, who were part of an attack being mounted from Jordan in June, 1996. This went awry after Saddam infiltrated a group of Kurdish dissidents on whom the agency was relying. Dozens were executed. The French newspaper said a five-man CIA team was put in place for the earlier attempt. When it was called off they were arrested by the FBI and charged with attempted murder. Gilles Delafon, a Middle Eastern affairs specialist, said charges were dropped in 1996 and the five were decorated for their work, but "the affair seriously shook CIA morale". The CIA, respecting an order dating from the presidency of Gerald Ford banning assassinations, planned a coup in which the Iraqi leader would have been overthrown and replaced by five Iraqi generals. The strategy was drawn up with the help of Gen Wafic al-Samarai, an Iraqi officer who defected. The plan involved an uprising by Kurds in the north of Iraq, while military opponents of Saddam attacked the barracks where he had his residence. But on the eve of the attack, the CIA team received a message from Tony Lake, President Clinton's national security adviser, telling them the White House did not back it. The London Telegraph, March 8, 1999 Financial Markets in Japan Future of
[CTRL] Testimony Presented to Subcommittee on Commercial Administrative Law
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/5.htm A HREF="http://www.house.gov/judiciary/5.htm"Testimony Presented to Subcommittee on Commerci /A - Go to site for testimonies. Om K - Committee on the Judiciary Hearing Testimony Presented to Subcommittee on Commercial Administrative Law Jurisdiction Oversight Plan Oversight hearing with Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts, on Bankruptcy Reform -- March 11, 1999 Oversight hearing on "The 'Know Your Customer' Rules: Privacy in the Hands of Federal Regulators" -- March 4, 1999 Witness List, "Know Your Customer" Rules Fact Sheet, Honorable George W. Gekas, Honorable Bob Barr, Honorable Ron Paul, Honorable John D. Hawke, Jr., Richard A. Small, Esq., Christie A. Sciacca, Timothy R. Burniston, David Medine, Honorable Jere W. Glover, Professor Robert A. Anthony, James McLaughlin, Solveig Singleton, Gregory T. Nojeim Hearing on the Reauthorization of the Independent Counsel Act (expiring on June 30, 1999) -- March 2, 1999 Independent Counsel Act Fact Sheet, Witness List, Honorable George W. Gekas, Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr., Honorable Jay Dickey, Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, Honorable Alcee L. Hastings snip - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Coming Collapse of Public Education
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 10/A The Laissez Faire City Times March 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 10 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - The Coming Collapse of Public Education by Don Lobo Tiggre "Its time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybodys role is spelled out in advance, and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. Its no surprise that our school system doesnt improve: It more resembles the communist economy that our own market economy." Albert Shanker, former president, American Federation of Teachers Albert Shanker is the same man who rocked the education establishment even more by saying, than, teachers unions would start representing the interests of the children when the children started paying union dues. It is interesting to see such undisguised comments originating from within the system, even as critics outside are becoming more and more aware of the roots of public education in 19th century Prussian production of cannon fodder, as last weeks Laissez Faire City Times article on "Education: The Fifth Estate" demonstrated. However, more interesting than the question of where public education came from is the question of where trends in education are leading it. The first trend to note is that the systems of public education are broken, and that the disintegration is getting rapidly worse. The inner cities are leading the trend, but even in rural America, where the metal detectors have yet to appear at school doors, there is a growing awareness among educators that a crisis is drawing nearer. The decay is so clear that even the educrats in Washington, alarmed by the sinking rankings of American students compared to students from other industrialized countriesas low as 28th, in some comparisonshave made serious-sounding noises about education reform. They are only noises of course, but striking nonetheless for what they imply about the situation, given that they are coming from the National Education Association and the U.S. Department of Education. The National Commission on Excellence in Education of the Department of Education issued the "Nation at Risk" report in 1983, basically documenting the slide in academic performance in American public schools and warning that things needed to improve or the nations future would be at great risk. In the sixteen years that have passed since "Nation at Risk" was issued, weve seen a lot of so-called reform efforts. Half of them seemed to be disguised calls for more money to conduct business as usual under new names, and the other half seemed to be calls to "lower the bar," under guise of fostering "creativity" and "self-esteem," so that results could look better, even as they continued to slide. But the educrats cant hide the results of their pretenses forever. According to a 1993 U.S. Department of Education study, even after many of the least successful students have dropped out, fewer than 40 percent of high school seniors are reading at or above grade level. Indications are that the situation is much worse today. A con job by any other name smells just as bad. Whether its called "A Shift in Focus," the "Education Technology Initiative," "FACT" (Families, Agencies, and Communities Together), or "Goals 2000," the "reform" programs of the education establishment seem to have only one goal: to keep the decrepit system going so the special interests who profit from it can continue milking it. This refusal to embrace any serious change, combined with the failures of the alleged reforms to make any real improvements are changing the nature of education in America. Consider the Goals 2000 program, which current reports indicate will not have helped a single state to achieve its educational goals by the year 2000. Many states will not even achieve one quarter of their goals. Meanwhile, many parents are realizing that the program further federalizes education and leaves parents with even less control over what their children are taught. One result of this sort of dismal failure is the acceleration of another trend: privatization of education. Voting with Their Feet I dont mean the "dream" of privatization, but the reality that is sweeping the country. The various state-based think tanks are leading valiant charges against the heavily defended "Seminary Ridge" of state-funded educational monopoly, pushing for tax credits in one state, or vouchers in another. For every advance made in one place, however, theres a "Picketts Charge" in another where the pro-educational choice activists are all but crushed out of existence. This struggle is a symptom of the deep dissatisfaction with public education that is growing in American parents. Its also a good distraction that will keep the education socialists chasing the wrong enemy
[CTRL] The Republican Liberty Caucus: an interview with Robert Booth
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 10/A The Laissez Faire City Times March 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 10 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - The Republican Liberty Caucus: an interview with Robert Booth by Alberto Mingardi Libertarians and conservatives are shaped by two different perspectives but have a lot of things in common. As Michael W. Lynch recently noted in Reason, both groups emphasize the ideals of the American Revolution: the heritage of liberty, free markets and natural rights. Both are also members of the revolutionary capitalist "class" which supports individual liberty and is oppressed by the State. On this point, consider for a moment the revolutionary nature of capitalism as seen by a German radical in the early 19th century: The [capitalist class] cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. . . Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish [this] epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their taint of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into the air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life and his relations with his kind." Is the capitalist "class" sufficiently well represented by the miniscule Libertarian Party in the U.S.? In the Laissez Faire City Times weve discussed natural allies of the capitalist class: libertarians, republicans, the religious right yes, the religious right no. . . Now is a good time for an interview with Robert Booth. Mr. Booth is one of the leaders of the "Republican Liberty Caucus" (RLC, http://www.rlc.org), an interesting organization that promotes libertarian ideas inside the Republican party, and defines itself as an "Enemy of State". RLC supports lower and fewer taxes, the right to privacy, the right to keep and bear arms, educational choice, alternatives to the drug war, privatization of government functions and similar ideas. Their "champion" is Murray N. Rothbard. That says a lot in itself. Professor Walter Block recently told The Laissez Faire City Times that despite Ron Paul, the GOP is "a wasteland for liberty." How do you respond to a criticism like this ? It would depend on what Professor Block means by the GOP and "wasteland". If he means that there are not any libertarians besides Ron Paul elected to the federal legislative bodies, he has a good point. There are some libertarian-leaning Republicans elected to office, but even they would balk at being called a libertarian. If he means that there are not any libertarian Republicans elected to office at the state level, I would like to point out some very good people. Greg Kaza was a state representative for six years in Michigan and now he is running for the state Senate. Brian Thomas is a state representative in Washington State, and he is very libertarian. There are quite a few others as well. If Prof. Block means that there is a wasteland among grassroots GOP activists, I would object even more strenuously. We find people every day who are committed libertarians and are active in the GOP. Finally, if he means that there are no libertarians amongst the people who vote Republican, I have to seriously disagree. According to some polls, 20-30 percent of the American populace is in general libertarian. This is on the same level as the number of people who are described as being conservative, liberal or moderate. Given that anywhere from 90-99 percent of the voting public votes for one of the two major parties, that means that many are looking at these parties to produce libertarian candidates. In business terms, there's a big demand for a product that isn't out there. We're trying to help one party, the Republicans, meet that demand. For those not familiar with the US political system, we have a bit of a different dynamic than you do in Europe. Nearly all elected offices are in "single member districts", that is, there is no proportional representation. This pretty much guarantees that there will be two major parties at any given time. These two parties have to maintain a large coalition of diverse interests. While many political groups seek to work outside these coalitions, we want to try to make sure the leaders of the coalitions have to listen to us. What are the reasons for the alliance of conservatives and libertarians? Conservatives are a diverse lot, and it's hard to say what they specifically believe. It would be fair to say that conservatives favor "limited
[CTRL] Gun Control Could Destroy the Constitution
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 10/A The Laissez Faire City Times March 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 10 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - Gun Control Could Destroy the Constitution by Sunni Maravillosa A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. U.S. Constitution That sentence seems so straightforward, doesnt it? Twenty-seven words. Yet the debate as to what the Founders meant by the Second Amendment to the Constitution continues to rage. As the latest escalation in the war on gunsthe lawsuits against gun manufacturers brought by cities across the countryprogresses, "rage" is an apt sentiment for those who value and strive to uphold the Constitution. While many other political items get attention from the talking heads and politicians, discontent over the increasing energy with which the Second Amendment is being attacked quietly grows. It is a powder keg waiting for a spark. Many of the gun-grabbers' arguments for restrictions and bans center on the word "militia". However, the meaning of the term is straightforward: a military force, especially one comprised of citizens rather than professional soldiers. Some, in a convoluted interpretation of the word, claim that the term refers to state militias (e.g., the National Guard). If the Founders intended to limit gun ownership in this way, no writings exist to support that interpretation. The second part of the amendment is also clear, and more difficult for Newspeak experts to argue away. In those days, "the people" meant literally thatthe citizens of this nation. Indeed, many patriots of that day are on record as supporting the right of the individual to own firearms. Samuel Adams well-known quotation is a good example: "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." Others, recognizing the thin ice underlying linguistic arguments such as these, take a different tactic. Its common to hear arguments that the Founders had no idea that weaponry would advance as it has, leading to automatic weapons that can fire hundreds of rounds in seconds, missiles that can strike a target across a continent with deadly accuracy, and even nuclear weapons with their global capacity for death and destruction. While that may be truesomething Im loathe to grant, as Jefferson and others were clearly men of great minds, seeing beyond their time and circumstancesit is irrelevant. No one seriously advances arguments such as, "the Founders didnt foresee the high speeds capable by automobiles, so we must control access to them," or "refrigeration is a powerful tool that the Founders couldnt have predicted would be so important, therefore its use must be highly regulated, with mandatory licenses, training, and permission to refrigerate granted by the state." Others who would trample the Constitution try to appeal to our "self-interest" with their arguments. They point to the violence in our society, and attribute much of it to the presence of firearms. Many also like to emphasize the power of guns, saying that they are "designed to kill." My response to the latter is a simple, "No shit!" Again, these arguments fail to consider all the data, or miss the point entirely. Some who make these arguments dont knowor conveniently overlookthe history of settling the West. There were some violent gunfights, which were popular as movie fodder in years past, but largely Western towns were peaceful places because most citizens were armed, and bad guys knew it. As many satires on gun control point out, people arent calling for "vehicle control," despite the fact that automobile accidents kill far more individuals than firearm accidents. Still, many people think that it's "reasonable" to favor some kinds of gun control. Some buy into the "sporting use" arguments offered by gun-grabbers: "Why does a law-abiding citizen need a weapon powerful enough to shred Bambi into a casserole right there in the forest?" Other arguments generally go something like this: "Handguns, shotguns, and some rifles are okay for people to own, but no one needs a fully-automatic rifle or a machine gun. What would anyone need that kind of weapon for?" However, owning firearms was never about huntingits about "the security of a free state." How secureand freecan we be when all were "allowed" to possess are .22-caliber rifles and 11-round magazines, against the .50-caliber automatic rifles and worse of government forces? "To Disarm the People is the Best and Most Effective Way to Enslave Them" In recent years, and with increasing fervor in the wake of the attempted assassination of President Reagan, gun-grabbers have been calling forand gettingincreases in so-called gun
[CTRL] John Maynard Keynes by Milton Friedman
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 10/A The Laissez Faire City Times March 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 10 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - John Maynard Keynes by Milton Friedman John Maynard Keynes (18831946) is the latest in a line of great British economists who had a profound influence on the discipline of economics. By common consent, the line starts with Adam Smith (17231790), whose Wealth of Nations (1776) is generally regarded as the founding document of modern economics. It continues with David Ricardo (17721823), whose Principles of Political Economy (1817) dominated classical economics for much of the nineteenth century, and, incidentally, provided Karl Marx with one of his central concepts: the labor theory of value. John Stuart Mills (18061873) Principles of Political Economy, published in the same year, 1848, as the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels, became the standard textbook in the English-speaking worldand beyondfor decades. William Stanley Jevonss (18351882) Theory of Political Economy (1871) inaugurated the "marginal revolution," which replaced, or supplemented, emphasis on cost of production (supply) as determining value with emphasis on utility (demand). He resolved the classic diamond-water paradoxdiamonds are a luxury, water a necessity, yet diamonds command a higher price than waterby showing that "marginal utility"the utility gained from having one more unit of somethingnot "total utility" plays the key role in determining price. Alfred Marshall (18421924), Keyness own teacher, guide, and patron, dominated economics in the English-speaking world from the publication of the first edition of his classic, Principles of Economics (1890), to the 1930s. Keynes clearly belongs in this line. In listing "the" classic of each of these great economists, historians will cite the General Theory as Keyness path-breaking contribution. Yet, in my opinion, Keynes would belong in this line even if the General Theory had never been published. Indeed, I am one of a small minority of professional economists who regard his Tract on Monetary Reform (1923), not the General Theory, as his best book in economics. Even after sixty-five years, it is not only well worth reading but continues to have a major influence on economic policy. 1. KEYNESS LIFE From 1908 to his death in 1946, Keynes was an active Fellow of Kings College, Cambridge, influencing successive generations of students. For many years, he was also Bursar of Kings College, and is credited with making it one of the wealthiest of the Cambridge colleges. From 1911 to 1944, he was the editor or joint-editor of the Economic Journal, at the time the leading professional economic periodical in the English-speaking world. Simultaneously, he was also Secretary of the Royal Economic Society. Despite his lifelong commitment to economics, the earliest work he completedthough not the earliest to be publishedwas in mathematics not economicsA Treatise on Probabilityessentially completed by 1911, but first published in 1921. It is a mark of Keyness range, creative originality, and insight that much recent work in statistics has returned to the themes of the Treatise on Probability. In economics, his first major publication was Indian Currency and Finance (1913), a product of his service in the India Office of the British government from 1906 to 1908. Monetary Reform (1923) was followed in 1930 by the two-volume Treatise on Money, much of which remains of value, though Keynes himself came to regard its theoretical analysis as simply a step on the road to the General Theory, the last of his major works. These major works were supplemented by numerous articles, reviews, and biographical essays on some of his predecessors.[1] Keyness interest and influence were by no means limited to the confines of the academy. For decades he exerted a major influence on public affairs and played an active role in the world of business. His Economic Consequences of the Peace (1919), based on his activities as an adviser to the British Treasury during the negotiation of the Versailles Peace Treaty, had a major impact on public opinion and public policy, not only in Britain but throughout the world, and not only immediately. It was translated into many languages, became a worldwide best-seller, and first established Keynes as a major public figure. It influenced the reaction of both victors and vanquished to the Versailles Peace Treaty. Indeed, in a book, The Carthaginian Peace; or, the Economic Consequences of Mr. Keynes, published more than two decades later (1946), Etienne Mantoux pays the Economic Consequences a backhanded compliment by arguing that Keyness debunking of the peacemakers was the source of all subsequent evil, including World War II. From 1919 on, Keynes remained active in public matters, publishing
[CTRL] Sales of Y2K Survival Gear Booming
-Caveat Lector- Sales of Y2K survival gear booming Sunday, 7 March 1999 18:33 (GMT) (UPI Spotlight) Sales of Y2K survival gear booming CHICAGO, March 7 (UPI) - Sales of generators and freeze-dried food are booming, reflecting concerns that the year 2000, or Y2K, computer bug could disrupt power, communications and transportation systems. Crain's Chicago Business (Sunday) says preparations no longer are confined to fringe groups. Copyright 1999 by United Press International DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [4] America's Secret Establishment
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from- America's Secret Establishment An introduction to The Order of Skull Bones by ANTONY C. SUTTON Liberty House Press 2027 Iris Billings, Montana 59102 1986 - Highly reccomended. There is more in this book than can be presented here. Many charts and reproductions of orginal source material.As always, Caveat Lector. In stock at: A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0273 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lloyd Miller, Research Director) Om K - Memorandum Number Four: Who Is In This Secret Society? The membership list of about 2500 initiates into The Order has very obvious features: * Most members are from the Eastern seaboard United States. As late as 1950 only three members resided in Los Angeles, California, but 28 members resided in New Haven, Connec- ticut. * Members are all males and almost all WASPS (White Anglo Saxon Protestant). In great part they descended from English Puritan families, their ancestors arrived in North America in the 1630-1660 period. * These Puritan families either intermarried with financial power or invited in sons of money moguls. e.g., Rockefellers, Davisons. and Harrimans, whose sons became members of The Order. From this preliminary information we can derive Hypothesis One THERE EXISTS IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY, AND HAS EX- ISTED SINCE 1833, A SECRET SOCIETY COMPRISING MEMBERS OF OLD LINE AMERICAN FAMILIES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF FINANCIAL POWER. The chart on page 19 presents a simplified layout of this hypothesis Full information remains for a later book _ for now we'll give details of just two key families, the Whitneys and the Harrimans. The Whitney Family A key family is the Whitneys, descended from English Puritans who came to the U.S. about 1635 and settled in Watertown. Mass. Eight Whitney's have been members of The Order. Of these, three had brief lives; Emerson Cogswell Whitney died a few months after initiation and Edward Payson Whitney "disappeared in 1858" according to his biographer. However, three Whitneys. William Collins Whitney and his two sons, are the core of Whitney influence in The Order which survives, today through the Harriman family and intermarriage with Paynes and Vanderbilts. Whitneys In The Order: Initiation NameField 1851 Emerson Cogswell Whitney Education: "Died December 1, 1851." 1854 Edward Payson Whitney Medicine: "Disappeared 1858" 1856 James Lyman Whitney Library work: Boston Public Library 1863 William Collins Whitney Secretary of Navy (1885-9) Promoter and Financier 1878 Edward Baldwin Whitney Law: Justice, New York Supreme Court 1882 Joseph Ernest Whitney Education: "Died Feb. 25, 1893" 1894 Payne Whitney Finance : Knickerbocker (son of W.C. Whitney Trust Co. 1898 Harry Payne Whitney Finance : Guaranty Trust (son of W.C. Whitney) and Guggenheim Explora- tion Co. Hypothesis Number One: A Secret Society Dominated By Old Line American Families And New Wealth Has Existed From 1833 To The Present Day. THE ORDER PHELPS FAMILY (1630, Dorchester, Mass.) PERKINS FAMILY (1631, Boston, Mass.) WADSWORTH FAMILY (1632 Newtown, Mass.) BUNDY FAMILY (1635, Boston, Mass.) LORD FAMILY (1635, Cambridge, Mass.) WHITNEY FAMILY (1635, Watertown, Mass.) STIMSON FAMILY (1635, Watertown, Mass.) GILMAN FAMILY (1638, Hingham, Mass.) TAFT FAMILY (1679, Braintree, Mass. ROCKEFELLER FAMILY (Standard Oil) HARRIMAN FAMILY (Railroads) PAYNE FAMILY (Standard Oil) DAVISON FAMILY (J. P. Morgan) WEYERHAEUSER FAMILY (Lumber) PILLSBURY FAMILY (Flour milling) SLOANE FAMILY (Retail) William Collins Whitney (1841-1904) is a fine example of how members of The Order rise to fame and fortune. W.C. Whitney was in- itiated in 1863 and by 1872 had only advanced his career to Inspector of Schools for New York. However, in the last three decades of the cen- tury, he rolled up a massive fortune, became a power behind the throne in the Cleveland Administration, and directed the often unscrupulous activities of a cluster of capitalists known as "the Whitney Group". A brief quotation suggests the power that Whitney amassed in a brief 30 years. This is a list of Whitney estates at the turn of the century: ". . . a city residence in New
[CTRL] Clinton, terrorist attacks, Y2K, and the M/I complex
-Caveat Lector- Recent news article: = TODAY'S THING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND Lots of people apparently believe Chicken Little is right. Crain's Chicago Business reports sales of generators and freeze-dried food are booming - thanks to concerns the "millennium bug" will disrupt power, communications and transportation systems. The newspaper says preparations no longer are confined to fringe groups. Otherwise unflappable working people, professionals and executives are preparing for the possibility of power outages, food shortages and financial collapse this coming January 1st. A number of businesses are starting to realize the sales potential of millennium bug fears. Tru-Serv Corporation - a Chicago-based cooperative serving 10-thousand stores, including True Value hardware stores - will include a Year 2000 display featuring wood stoves, lanterns, fuel, batteries and flashlights at a buying market for members in Atlanta in April. Ace Hardware says it'll include a list of 50 to 100 Y2K-readiness items in a March newsletter to its more than five-thousand member stores. Ace Merchandise Manager Jimmy Alexander tells Crain's - "We've already sold three years' worth of oil lamps in the month of January alone." My Own Meals - which makes shelf-stable meals - says it plans to double its average inventory by May. Copyright 1999 by United Press International. All rights reserved. Catalogs I have received in the past month advertising "Y2K items" for sale: The Sportsman's Guide Heartland America Topix Innovation Gallery Cheaper than Dirt One might call this a good thing: the public is preparing for potential Y2K difficulties, thus indicating that mass hysteria, rioting, looting, etc. could be squelched before it begins (assuming the Y2K problem will really turn out to be more than a scary bedtime story written by a Big Brother who wants us to run and jump in bed with him, that is, be even more dependent on him than we already are). However, if one concludes, as many already have, that military interests (Big Brother's drones at the most visible-and clueless- level) are poised to take great advantage of the potential Y2K situation (whether inherently dangerous for modern society or intentionally blown out of proportion by THEM), then one must also look at the industrial implications and motives for the military/industrial complex as a whole. Even with Clinton's pay raises, the military half of the M/I complex has been whining that it's not enough and that service people are still leaving the military in droves. The question to ask is: Would a Y2K breakdown of societal supports alleviate these problems for them or lead to a process which would later alleviate them? They would need something akin to a draft resulting from some military threat or cataclysmic societal event. Even though the U.S. economy has been rolling along with little or no adjustment made to radically low interest rates, the industrial half of the M/I complex has been sagging for years, just like its partner. Clinton has recently proposed more spending in this area too, but he couldn't legitimately sustain such spending without an enemy looming to strike the American people, especially now that the USSR has been splintered into many selfish, vodka drinking, virtually impotent, poor countries with no more mother to feed them (the U.S. powers would like to assume this role, but they are already financially stretched in trying to keep the rest of their "holdings" pacified, docile, pliant to their will, and consuming lots of fatty, carcinogenic products; however, this period of suffering may have been calculated to make them more agreeable when the U.S. steps in as their "savior" at a later point, providing they don't let the situation go too long and the Russian peoples revert to Communism). The question to ask here is: What situation would give the Industrial half of the complex the boost it needs to begin soaking up lucrative government contracts again? I believe the answer to these questions has already been calculated. Considering Clinton's actions (quite strange for a Democratic president with delusions of being the next JFK--which, by the way, he would like to be, except for the ending of the story) in financing military build-ups and concurrent increases in weapons spending, one could imagine a scenario like this: (1) knowing the pres' weaknesses and character, covert operations plant key people near the president to begin the operation: Monica, Tripp, etc. [ I apologize to Colleen for this, but it was necessary to complete the scenario ;-) ]; (2) the scandal breaks and the pres discovers just how deeply and pervasively throughout his political environment it runs; (3) the offer comes: "We'll get you out smoothly and tell
[CTRL] Are Americans Headed for World Govenment? READ!
-Caveat Lector- MONDAY MARCH 08 1999 Are Americans headed for world government? By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D. © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A few days ago, eight black helicopters belonging to the elite Delta Force hit buildings in Kingsville, Texas with real explosives and live ammunition in a training exercise that scared local civilians. Similar events have occurred in Miami, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Washington, New Orleans, Los Angeles and other U.S. cities, including a Chicago suburb where they bombed an abandoned seminary. So what's the fuss about a military training exercise? Well, Tomas Sanchez in Texas is concerned, and he's no dummy. Sanchez is emergency management coordinator for the Federal Emergency Management Agency and head of the military police unit of the Texas State Guard under the National Guard. He's also had 30 years service in Navy intelligence work with a top secret clearance, and he's one of the few people who've seen Presidential Decision Directive 25. Here's what he said about the Delta Force special operation: "The scenario if I were creating this ops plan [is that] martial law has been declared through presidential powers and war powers act, and some citizens have refused to give up their weapons. They have taken over two of the buildings in Kingsville. The police cannot handle it. So you call these guys in. They show up and they zap everybody, take all the weapons, and let the local Police Department clean it up." Sanchez and other military experts believe PDD 25 is the document being used to authorize such military action with the U.S., and he said, "It's a done deal. I think there's some UN folks involved in this thing too." Before you dismiss this as all part of some conspiracy nonsense, you should know that on February 20, 1997, Ronnie Edelman of the U.S. Department of Justice wrote a letter explaining the Clinton administration's views on the Second Amendment and handguns as follows: "The current state of federal law does not recognize that the Second Amendment protects the right of private citizens to possess firearms of any type." Relevant to the UN, when Boutros Boutros-Ghali was secretary-general, he supported the report of the Commission on Global Governance, which said: "We strongly endorse community initiatives to ... encourage the disarming of civilians." We also know that President Clinton has been deferential to the U.N., saying on Oct. 19, 1993, that his administration was engaging in a political process regarding Somalia "to see how we can ... do all the things the United Nations ordered to do." And U.S. Army Specialist Michael New was court-martialed several years later for refusing to wear U.N. insignia on his American military uniform. Are Americans headed for world government? Over a century ago, Cecil Rhodes developed a plan that would bring about a world government. On July 20, 1992, Bill Clinton's Rhodes scholar roommate, Strobe Talbott, wrote an article for Time, in which he declared: "Perhaps national sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all," and "the case for world government" is "clinched." President Clinton made Talbott number two at the State Department, and in June 1993, the World Federalist Association gave Talbott its Global Governance Award for his article. On June 22 of that year, President Clinton sent a letter to the WFA noting that Norman Cousins, a past WFA president, had worked for world peace and "world government," and President Clinton concluded his letter by wishing the WFA "future success." All of this in no way means that the president and the U.N. are going to send military forces to your home to break down your door and confiscate your firearms. But the actions and quotations above are troubling and do not auger well for the future of our freedoms, rights, and national sovereignty. Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D., is the author of "Secret Records Revealed," pertaining to President Clinton and others (Hearthstone Publishing, 800-652-1144). © 1999 Western Journalism Center This page was last built 3/8/99; 3:38:11 AM Site scripted with UserLand Frontier Direct corrections and technical inquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
Re: [CTRL] Pointing a finger now a 'terrorist threat'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/8/99 5:52:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OOPS, NEVER MIND -- Terry Williams was a passenger in a car that nearly collided with another car in Oakland, Ca. Williams leaned out of the car with his arms extended and his hands clasped as though he were holding a gun and yelled "bang." The driver of the second car was a Secret Service agent who responded by pulling a real gun and yelling "police." Williams sped off but the agent caught up and arrested him on a charge of making a terrorist threat. (AP) --took all the fun out of it Correct me if I am wrong but the Secret Service have no power to arrest, do they? Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Edinburgh
-Caveat Lector-
In reference to the following:
{BIG SNIP}
In town/very near at the moment we have: the heads of the following;
Martinists, KKK, Theosophical Society in England, Scottish Grand Lodge,
and we even have The Bermuda Bank new in town. Whilst extreme american Pat
Robertson has bought over a function Bank of Scotland telephone banking.
A new author is in town about to publish that Edinburgh was the place for a
Temple of Solomon, and He uses the landmarks and network of local strange
architecture to draw on maps a la Renne Le Chateau.
So - was/is Edinburgh a place where shit happens, where descendants of
Jesus climb to the top Of Arthurs Seat the Hill of the Lion [of the tribe
of Judah], where Ninja, Reptiles, Werewolves Greys, and Mongolian Warriors
assemble around the Ark of the Covenant drinking Blood from the Holy Grail
- ???
Is the Second Coming in Edinburgh ? more revelations to follow
You said at the end of this message that you need a drink. It sounds like
you've had one too many already!
I suppose the problem I have with your stuff stems from the fact that it just
doesn't try to connect two or three aspects of the known or unknown, it tries
to loosely imply some interrelation among ALL of the paranormal, ancient
history, religion, the occult, politics, legend, economics, my sister's ass
(if I had a sister, that is), etc. Before you try to solve the equation of Life,
the Universe, and Everything, you might want to try looking at one aspect
at a time. Not only that, but you might also want to construct SOME KIND
OF ACTUAL THEORY out of it.
What exactly does Jesus + Satan + the KKK + werewolves + greys + the
Holy Grail + ninjas + Merlin + every other political, social, historical,
paranormal event, artifact, and figure add up to? I think it must add up to
some bad salmon, a bottle of cheap wine, a couple of hits of acid, and
a magic mushroom or two.
Help me out here. I just don't get it.
HOFFA
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[CTRL] The Reform Silly Party of Florida (Seriously!!!)
-Caveat Lector- Well, this one makes about as much sense as some of the nonsense coming out of the "mainstream" parties... ;^) Bob === http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3902/index.html The Reform Silly Party of Florida "Putting the 'Fun' Back Into Political Dysfunction!" Yep, we're a real political party, with a longer history in our great state than some other, more famous latecomers. You can even Become a Member! PLATFORM Term Limits With Dignity This bold policy proposal combines the concepts of "term limits" and "death with dignity." After serving in a public office for two terms, a public official must be euthanized. We believe that this policy will do much to reduce the long-term attractiveness of public office -- and thus the possibility of corruption, waste, and mismanagement. Domestic Pet Overpopulation the Hungry Two crises in search of one another. Figure it out. And do send recipes. Healthcare Reform What better way to increase the availability of healthcare providers and the level of healthcare in America than to declare a War on Healthcare? In no time, American inner cities will be filled with unlicensed "healthcare dealers" dispensing care, medical advice, etc. Soon others will exploit the artificially-created black market. Health addicts will find a way to purchase the care they desire. The primary drawback to this particular War will be an explosion in popular entertainment about shadowy offshore "health lords" operating clinics on tiny islands, as heroic IEA (Illness Enforcement Administration) agents attempt to infiltrate the evil "health cartels" [which will be secretly staffed by various US "intelligence" agencies, of course]. Fiscal and Monetary Policy All millionaires shall receive knighthoods; decamillionaires, baronhoods; centimillionaires, dukehoods; and billionaires, lordships. The Senate shall be replaced by a House of Lords. By the way, why is it an "embargo" when the US government does it to other countries, and "protectionism" when they do it to our own country? The Law of Gravity Repeal it. Governments have routinely ignored the laws of economics for years. Let us boldly proceed to repeal the laws of physics. [Coming soon: Our referendum on the speed of light!] Weather Equity The southern part of the USA is too hot most of the time, and the northern part is too cold. The government should subsidize the equalization of temperature and rainfall across the USA, just like on the planet Raisa. Prohibition of Teenage Smoking Absolutely not! If we prohibit teenagers from smoking, what will they do after they have sex? Tobacco, Savior of the Family Farm All crops other than tobacco are forbidden. All farmers shall heretofore be subsidized to grow tobacco only. Think of the possibilities: Tobacco leaf salad. Tobacco Moon Pie. Wash it all down with a refreshing glass of Tobac-Co-Cola. Things will go better with this proposal. A National Language The USA needs a national language. "English vs. Spanish" is too controversial. It should be Old Norse. All civil service jobs shall require demonstrated fluency in the national language. Once the bureaucracies have filled back up, we'll pick another language; preferably one with a non-Roman alphabet. Voting Rights Reform The right to vote shall be taken away from those whose IQs are in the lowest 25% and the highest 25% of the population. Idiots and smarty-pantses are the source of all our troubles. Legal Reform Defense lawyers who get clients acquitted shall serve the same sentences as their clients who get convicted of subsequent crimes. Corrupt police officers and judges shall be hanged on live TV. People who expose corrupt law officers and judges shall receive free gasoline for one year and a set of steak knives. The Avant-Garde Presidential Debates Act All presidential candidates qualified to appear on a minimum of 40 states' ballots must engage in a series of four debates in October before a general election. The candidates must present their policy positions only by use of interpretive dance, yodeling, mime, and sign language. This dynamic fusion, combined with our plan for creating the Federal Commission for the Electoral Arts, would significantly increase voter interest in the civic enterprise. Courtesy Courtesy shall be mandated. Discourteous individuals will be executed. Don't like it? Then stop acting like such a jerk! Personal Initiative Matrimony Program People are waiting far too long to get married. As a responsible political party, we too are just worried sick about the STATE OF THE FAMILY. Not that we would ever pander to the family values crowd, but WE LOVE FAMILIES. REALLY, REALLY, WE DO. Therefore, the government must actively promote family formation. We call for establishment of the Personal Initiative Matrimony Program-- the P.I.M.P. plan. The government will take a pro-active role in finding suitable partners for those singles who
[CTRL] Windows 98 has secret: A code to track users - AP story
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Mar/08/front_page/SOFT08.htm A HREF="http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Mar/08/front_page/SOFT08.htm" Windows 98 has secret: A code to track users /A - Windows 98 has secret: A code to track users A unique serial number can be planted within electronic files. That raises privacy concerns. By Ted Bridis ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON -- Microsoft Corp., whose software runs most of the world's personal computers, admitted yesterday that its latest version of Windows generates a unique serial number secretly planted within electronic documents that could be used to trace the authors' identities. In a disclosure with enormous privacy implications, Microsoft also said it was investigating whether it was collecting the serial numbers from customers even if they explicitly indicated they did not want them disclosed. "If it is, it's just a bug," said Robert Bennett, Microsoft's group product manager for Windows. "If it is indeed happening . . . we'll absolutely fix that." A programmer, Richard M. Smith of Brookline, Mass., noticed last week that documents he created using Microsoft's popular Word and Excel programs in tandem with the Windows 98 operating system included within their hidden software code a 32-digit number unique to his computer. The number also appears in a log of information transmitted to Microsoft when customers register their copies of Windows 98, even if they say they do not want details about their computers sent to the company. Microsoft's Word and Excel programs are among the most widely used, and its Windows operating systems run roughly 85 percent of the world's personal computers. "Nobody to my knowledge has had a database that would allow a piece of written material to be traced back to who wrote it," said Smith, president of Phar Lap Software Inc. "I don't expect Microsoft to do that kind of tracing, but it's sort of unprecedented." Bennett said Microsoft would create a software tool to let customers remove the number, which he said was meant to help diagnose problems for customers who called with technical questions. Smith suggested, however, that Microsoft also could use the technology to identify stolen copies of Windows by comparing the hardware serial number with a 20-digit Windows product number that also is transmitted when a customer registers. The industry claims annual losses from software piracy at more than $11.4 billion. "If they suddenly see the same product ID number with different hardware ID numbers, it gives them evidence for court that there's software piracy," Smith said. Bennett said Microsoft was looking into whether the number, called a Globally Unique Identifier, ever was obtained from customers who did not want details about their computer hardware disclosed, such as their network addresses. The identifier is partly based on a 12-digit number unique to each network adapter, a device common in business computers that allows high-speed Internet connections. Bennett promised that Microsoft also would wipe any of those numbers from its internal databases that the company can determine may have been inadvertently collected. Privacy activists were not mollified. "This is going to be a cleanup job larger than the Exxon Valdez oil spill," said Jason Catlett, president of Junkbusters Corp. of Green Brook, N.J., which lobbies on privacy issues. "There are billions of tattooed documents out there." The controversy follows criticism of Intel Corp., the world's largest manufacturer of computer processors, which designed its new Pentium III chips to transmit a unique serial number internally and to Web sites that request it to help verify the identity of consumers. Congress is weighing whether to propose new federal privacy laws governing the high-tech industry, and the Federal Trade Commission has had tough words for the Internet industry for its failure to protect privacy rights. Last year, the FTC successfully pressed for a law that prohibits Web sites from collecting personal information from children without parental permission. Microsoft was a founding member of the Online Privacy Alliance, a Washington-based trade group organized last year to lobby against new federal privacy laws. ©1999 Philadelphia Newspapers Inc. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
[CTRL] Teen Killer Idolizes Hitler, Satan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.phillynews.com/daily_news/99/Mar/08/national/TEAC08.htm A HREF="http://www.phillynews.com/daily_news/99/Mar/08/national/TEAC08.htm"2 portraits offered in killing of teacher/A - 2 portraits offered in killing of teacher Associated Press ERIE, Pa. - A 15-year-old boy charged with spraying bullets at a school dance and killing a teacher counts Hitler as one of his heroes, yet he is afraid of the dark and keeps Raggedy Ann dolls in his room, a psychiatrist said. Andrew Wurst left a suicide note on his pillow when he went to the April 24 dance armed with his father's pistol, said Dr. Robert Sadoff of Philadelphia, a defense psychiatrist, in a report submitted to Erie County Judge Michael Palmisano. But a psychiatrist for the prosecution said Wurst was embarrassed when the teacher he is accused of shooting, 48-year-old John Gillette, gave him a door prize at the dance. Dr. John O'Brien of Philadelphia also said Wurst was angry that his ex-girlfriend attended with another boy and that classmates discouraged another girl from being his date. A hearing will begin tomorrow to determine whether Wurst will be tried as an adult or a juvenile. Wurst is accused of killing Gillette, wounding two students and threatening to kill his principal at the dance at James W. Parker Middle School in Edinboro, about 18 miles south of Erie. Sadoff's report said that Wurst should be tried as a juvenile because he needs treatment for mental illness in a juvenile detention center. He would automatically be released at age 21. O'Brien and doctors at Warren State Hospital concluded Wurst wasn't mentally ill. O'Brien said Wurst is hypersensitive to rejection, but his refusal to discuss the shooting shows he wouldn't respond to treatment, and he should be tried as an adult. Wurst would play with toys, like Legos and miniature soldiers. His mother would have to check for monsters under his bed before turning his bedroom light off at night. And though he worked for his father's landscaping business, the 125-pound boy couldn't do as much as other workers. At the same time, he drank whiskey and smoked marijuana. He picked up the nickname "Satan" because of his liking for Marilyn Manson music and horror novels. ©1999 Philadelphia Newspapers Inc. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #1
00. Sit it out in Hawaii: http://www.y2kculture.com/reality/19990308.travel.html # CARTOONISTS FIND NEW GAG. Without Monica and Linda to rip into anymore, what are political cartoonists to do? Y2K gags, of course. Duh, original: http://www.y2kculture.com/arts/19990308.cartoonists.html # Y2K MEDIA MADNESS. Our cartoon hero, Chip 'n Little, goes on TV. They film his canned food stash. Guess what happens next. As if we cared: http://www.y2kculture.com/cartoons/19990304.tv.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Fixing the Weather. Weather modification has become a growth business. http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news366.html FILMMAKER STANLEY KUBRICK [Clockwork Orange, 2001, Dr.Strangelove] DEAD AT 70. http://cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9903/07/kubrick.obit/index.html @ One-Eyed Aliens! Suicide Booths! Mom's Old-Fashioned Robot Oil! Peering inside Matt Groening's brain: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.02/ @ SteamShovel Press - Conspiracy news: http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/ @ Truth about the Great Pyramid: www.users.bigpond.net.au/peterb/loon @ Grampa meets ETs: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Quadrant/7233 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Adam woke with a stitch in his side and a strange woman in his bed." -SPS * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] EPA probes purple pigs, stunted crops
-Caveat Lector- The Philadelphia Inquirer, March 5, 1999 http://www.phillynews.com EPA probes purple pigs, stunted crops A malady plagues some farms in the region. ``We don't know why,'' an official said. By Matt Stearns INQUIRER SUBURBAN STAFF Deformed calves. Discolored crops. Purple pigs dying by the hundreds, then decomposing quickly. It isn't some Old Testament pestilence. It's a here-and-now mystery that has driven one farmer in western Montgomery County out of business and has others in the area scared for their own businesses -- and for their health. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officials will visit at least four farms today as part of a continuing effort to figure out what is going on, said Carrie Deitzel, an EPA community-involvement coordinator. Thus far, the long series of reported problems, first noted in the early 1990s, has confounded environmental and agricultural officials. The EPA did its most recent round of soil and water testing on the farms in January, and more tests will be run in the next few weeks. "The data we've got back so far do not indicate any kind of environmental or human health emergency out there," Deitzel said. "We're looking at what needs to be done from here on out." Deitzel acknowledged that the lack of environmental danger did not mean the lack of an environmental problem. And the problem does not appear to be restricted to these parts. "This isn't an isolated thing," said Lynn Campbell Wingert, an EPA spokeswoman. "Throughout the mid-Atlantic region, farm animals are dying, and we don't know why. We're going to make any connection we can to figure out what is going on here." One farmer, Wayne Hallowell of Douglass Township, said there was no real way to know how many farms were involved locally because it was unlikely every farmer would be willing to cooperate with investigators. "A lot of farmers with something wrong won't tell anyone," Hallowell said. "They don't want the government coming in and shutting them down, or they're trying to sell their land. They're very tight-lipped on that." But problems there are -- enough that Tom Yarnall, a farmer for 30 years, finally gave up raising pigs on his Gilbertsville spread. Yarnall still grows some corn, but spends most of his time these days as a carpenter. "I had almost 1,000 pigs when this thing started," Yarnall said. "In the spring of '92, it all went downhill. We had whole litters die when they were born." More than 200 pigs died during a two-month period in 1993, Yarnall said. All displayed similar symptoms: turning a purplish color, with newborns just not growing to maturity. His crops also turned purple, and have been stunted for several years, Yarnall said. "The yields are way down," he said. "They just don't do well." The pigs' bodies decomposed in about half the normal time, Yarnall said. Generally, dead pigs decompose in two to seven days, depending on the surrounding climate and other variables, said Arlen Wilbers, a large-animal veterinarian at the Quakertown Veterinary Clinic who examined livestock at Yarnall's farm. "Whatever was in their system broke down their fat," Yarnall said. "They'd turn into slop." Kenneth Kephart, an associate professor of animal science at Pennsylvania State University, investigated the goings-on at Yarnall's farm. "We went at it from a lot of different directions, and unfortunately we came up with zero," Kephart said. "Whatever it was seemed to be pretty persistent. It's extremely rare that you can't find at least some evidence of what's going on." Kephart added that livestock management might have accounted for some of the problems. But Yarnall is not the only local farmer facing unexplained and unusual disease among his livestock. Merrill Mest said he had had a decade's worth at his farm, just a few miles from Yarnall's. "I've had health problems with cows," Mest said. "They just waste away. They don't grow right. Couldn't live, couldn't die. Kind of in-between." Other cows on Mest's farm have had displaced stomachs and cystic ovaries, he said. "My vet says I have a lot more problems than I should," Mest said. "But nobody knows why." Wilbers, who is also Mest's veterinarian, said that some of the problems again might be chalked up to livestock management. "Some of the stuff kind of rings true" as being caused by external problems, Wilbers said. "But there's nothing I could specifically say. Nothing seems to crop up" as a definitive cause. Down the road at Hallowell's dairy farm, three deformed calves were born in a year and a half in the mid-1990s -- after nearly 50 years without any deformed calves being born on the land. One newborn calf weighed three times the typical birth weight. Another was born with both a testicle and a vagina. A third was born without a neck, without a tail and with reversed leg joints. During the same period, Hallowell said, several calves on his farm would not grow. "They more or less just
[CTRL] EPA officials visit stricken farms, investigate purple pigs
-Caveat Lector- The Philadelphia Inquirer, March 6, 1999 http://www.phillynews.com EPA officials visit stricken Montco farms They pledged further investigation into an unknown blight on crops and livestock that dates to 1991. By Matt Stearns INQUIRER SUBURBAN STAFF Federal environmental officials shed their citified suits yesterday in a trip to western Montgomery County to look further into farmers' fears about a series of bizarre crop and livestock problems on area farms during the last decade. But they could not overcome the deep doubt and mistrust of officialdom among farmers -- a cultural rift that gave an emotional edge to the day's conversations. The Environmental Protection Agency officials, clad for the country in fashionable barn jackets and khakis, listened respectfully to concerned farmers, who favored flannel shirts and patched work pants. They traipsed gingerly through barns and barnyards, eyeing gaunt Holsteins at one farm while taking notes on the farmers' litany of complaints. The officials promised more and better tests would start within weeks in a continuing search for answers. The questions began in 1991, when farmers first reported their pigs were turning purple, dying and rapidly decomposing; crops were turning purple and failing to mature; and cows were falling ill for no obvious reason. So far, years of tests by a variety of state, federal and academic experts have been inconclusive. There is also a human element to the problems. Many local farmers complain of nausea and feeling faint while working in area fields. The farms are near the Limerick nuclear-power plant, a Cabot Corp. chemical plant, and several landfills. Some farmers questioned why those places hadn't been more closely looked at. "Either somebody's covering it up, or you're not testing for what's there," a frustrated Tom Yarnall told the EPA officials gathered around the dining-room table at his Gilbertsville home. "And if you don't test for the right things, you're not going to find anything." Yarnall, a longtime pig farmer, lost most of his herd to unexplained disease in the mid-1990s and finally gave up large-scale farming altogether. Jack Kelly, the EPA's on-scene coordinator from its Philadelphia office, promised the renewed investigation would take a hard look at the Cabot plant's environmental practices and would include tests for uranium and other potentially dangerous heavy metals. Cabot works with such radioactive materials, as well as a variety of chemicals, at its local plant. "We use some chemicals in some pretty heavy volumes," said Tony Campitelli , the plant's manager of environmental affairs. "If you were to have a massive spill, it could cause problems, but we handle [ the chemicals ] responsibly." Campitelli also said that the plant's storage methods are proper and that radiation levels on the site are low. "Our main reason for being here is to try to identify some type of hazardous material or contaminant, if there is such a thing," Kelly said. "The difficult part of this is, if there is something going on, to date we don't have any indication that it's a chemical problem. But we will look into the other industries around here." Kelly's learning curve will be steep. He conceded that farming wasn't his strong point. "I'm from the city," he told farmer Merrill Mest apologetically as Mest tried to explain his cows' digestive problems. It became clear as the day progressed that farmers thought willful ignorance and outright evasiveness had characterized the official response to their years of concern. "You hear from vets what doctors used to tell women who had PMS," Mest said. "It doesn't exist. It's all in your head. That's what they're telling me -- there's no PMS." Yarnall, too, said he wanted answers even though he was no longer farming. "There's something wrong in this area," he said. "And I think it's time the farmers get answers from someone. Why should we go broke and lose everything?" At day's end, his mind reeling from farmers' complaints, Kelly admitted he remained dumbfounded. "There's no sign of a widespread health problem," Kelly said. "It looks like it's farm-specific. I figure the Department of Agriculture folks will have a lot to say about this. This is more their bailiwick. Our ability to do chemical analysis will help." Kelly's reaction only underscored Yarnall's exasperation. "If you're going to send people out to look at farms," Yarnall said disgustedly, "you should send people who know about farming." © 1998 Philadelphia Newspapers Inc. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
[CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #2
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# 'Sensational' anti-matter discovery. (BBC) The reason we are all made of
matter and not anti-matter may have been found. Smashing atoms theories:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_291000/291299.stm
# Also: Does it matter?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_143000/143084.stm
# Ghostly particles rule the universe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_106000/106629.stm
# Recreating the big bang
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_102000/102802.stm
: Are you pro or con on 'normal' matter? Do you personally prefer 'normal'
or antimatter, antithought, antigravity, antidotes? Is reality constructed
of masons, positrons and morons? How many Big Bangs have you caused? Why?
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# 400-Year-Old Kepler Horoscope Found. SANTA CRUZ (Reuters) - A California
researcher perusing an archive drawer of miscellaneous documents has found
a 400-year-old horoscope written by one of history's greatest astronomers,
Johannes Kepler. http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990305/08/odd-horoscope
: Are old horoscopes better/worse than new ones? Would Kepler have drafted
better horoscopes if he'd had a PC or Mac? Would he have discovered his
laws of orbital motion sooner? Would he have felt better about himself?
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*** La Nina brings weather of extremes. DENVER (AP) It's been so mild dry
this winter Coloradans have been trading parkas for T-shirts, and cactuses
in Arizona likely won't bloom. Seattle, meantime, suffered 90 days of rain
in the 4 months leading up to March - a record for a region usually boast-
ful of its wet climate. Blame La Nina, a phenomenon that has delivered a
feast-or-famine winter to the West, dousing the Northwest with record rains
while keeping the Southwest mostly dry. More weather disruptions coming -
see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558694674-7f2
: Are El Nino, La Nina, Le Nini caused by normal terrestrial/solar dynamics,
human weather modification [intentional or accidental], ETs, deities, fate?
How can you make a profit on it? Can the Mafia take over weather meddling?
Has the CIA diddled with weather? The KGB? The Illuminati? Where do crime,
conspiracy, weather, business, science, faith and insanity intersect? How?
# Heavy Rain Makes Drivers Run For Insurance. SAO PAULO (Reuters) As if ram-
pant car theft and reckless driving were not enough, Brazilians have another
compelling reason to insure their cars -- torrential rain. The Porto Seguro
insurance company, SaoPaulo's top car insurer, said inquiries about policies
for cars have tripled in the last week as heavy summer rains swept away cars
on downtown streets. http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990308/07/odd-rain
: Are El Nino, La Nina, Le Nini a plot by/against insurance companies? How
would you use weather control to extort money? Would you get away with it?
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# UK Parliament ponders GM potatoes. (BBC) The scientist whose experiments
on rats sparked the storm over genetically-modified (GM) plants is to tell
a parliamentary committee why he is concerned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_291000/291105.stm
# Also: GM-row scientist 'misrepresented'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_291000/291316.stm
: What gene.mods would you like to make in your food? In yourself? In your
neighbors, family, enemies, pets? Should you eat your clones? Are you tasty?
Are you worried about GM foods? Have you eaten any? Knowingly or otherwise?
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# Thief Gets Swift Retribution. NAIROBI (Reuters) A Kenyan who stole the
collection at a Sunday service in a Nairobi cathedral was killed by a bus
as he fled with his loot. http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990308/07/odd-thief
: Did {YHWH} send that bus? Does this show that you shouldn't fuck around
with deities? How many other such crimes go unpunished? Do deities care?
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# Rocket man's dreams take off. (BBC) One of the UK's leading amateur
rocketeers has successfully launched his latest craft. Steve Bennett watched
his four-metre (14ft) Tempest climb high into the sky over Merseyside. See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_29/290995.stm
@ Links: Steve Bennett's Starchaser site: http://www.starchaser.co.uk/
@ UK Amateur/Experimental Rocketry Altitude Records:
http://www.gbnet.net/orgs/staar/altrec.html
: Have you launched anything lately? Did it hit anything? Have you ever been
sued for reckless rocketeering? Should amateur experimentation be regulated?
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# Undertaker Cut Hand From Corpse For Voodoo. BRADENTON, Fla. (Reuters) - A
Florida jury found a former funeral home director guilty of abusing a human
body after she cut the hand from a corpse
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] The New Canadian Militancy]
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.10/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 10/A The Laissez Faire City Times March 8, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 10 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - The New Canadian Militancy snipped for space Well now, let's let the B.C. New Democratic Party speak for itself: http://www.bc.ndp.ca/ Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gun Control Could Destroy the Constitution
-Caveat Lector- I do not like guns; I have a pit bull, and if need be I will get an army of pit bulls for purely defensive purposes. This is my thought - not that anyone really cares... Look into the history of police departments. People wanted law and order, so they formed a civil service agency called the police - after all, government's primary purpose is to provide services, for which we pay - and dearly I might add. Now the South over a 100 years ago tried to get out of this condominium and failed. A lot of people were afraid and did not want to carry guns; they wanted someone whom they could trust to protect them and defend them; so eventually, came the first police department and the people let the police represent them just as they elect representatives to Congress - who are supposed to represent their best interests Now, if the right of the people is denied, and they cannot carry arms, the right of the civil service police will also be denied, as our police who are civilans eventually will be denied this right, as they are truly the representatives of the people when it comes to providing for the common defense on a domesic local front. The military is to provide for the common defense against foreign attack or invasion. I have friends who have seem some of these old "bunkers", etc. And we are told, well do not worry if there is a nuclear war or bubonic plague is thrust upon us, our leaders will be safe. The hell with our leaders; its every man for himself. These bunkers should be turned into shelters for the homeless or the children - has our government provided for the common defense of its people, or have they ducked the issue and feathered their own nests at our expense. Is that what it is all about. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Dash
-Caveat Lector- "The Dash" I read of a man who stood to speak at the funeral of his friend. He referred to the dates on her tombstone from the beginning...to the end. He noted that first came her birth and spoke of the second with tears, but he said that what mattered most of all was the "dash" between those years. For that dash represented all the time that she spent alive on earth, and now only those who loved her know what that little line is worth. For it matters not, how much we own; the cars, the house, the cash. What matters is how we live and love and how we spend our "dash." So think about this long and hard, are there things you'd like to change? For you never know how much time is left... (You could be at "dash mid-range.") If we could just slow down and consider what's true and real, and always try to understand the way other people feel. And...be less quick to anger, and show appreciation more - and love the people in our lives like we've never loved before. If we treat each other with respect, and more often wear a smile, remembering that this special dash might only last a little while. So, when your eulogy is being read with your life's actions to rehash... would you be pleased with the things they say about how you spent your dash? "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Edward Win 98
-Caveat Lector- All of a sudden, the Apple platform is starting to look real good. Anybody know where I can download a good operating system in the mean time? I realize that, from the beginning of this latest phase of the electronic age, privacy has been an illusion, but, damnit, I want my illusions back! Edward Linux is free to download at many sites on the net (just use a search engine and the word "Linux"), and there are free Linux browsers, word processors, etc. also free for the downloading (depending on who's version of Linux you get). However, such a changeover would be radical, and none of your current files could be converted for use with it. Besides, didn't I read that Microsoft is going to provide some sort of software patch that will disable the serial number tracking? HOFFA P.S.If Microsoft doesn't provide such a patch, it won't be long before people figure out how to safely disable the tracking themselves, so hang in there a while longer! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Teo: Microsoft Alters Windows in Response to Privacy//
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don't call me stupid, you big jerk. I got a pit bull. Any REPUTABLE owner of the breed colloquially known as 'pit bull' who has bought the canine from a REPUTABLE BREEDER, NEVER refers to it as 'pit bull' but by it's PROPER name, neither do they refer to their animal as if it were a loaded weapon. June *===* The world is coming to an end. Log off and leave in an orderly fashion. *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pointing a finger now a 'terrorist threat'
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but the Secret Service have no power to arrest, do they? As Treasury Agents, I don't see why not... June *===* The world is coming to an end. Log off and leave in an orderly fashion. *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Edward Win 98
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:08:00 -0500, you, "J. Hoffa" [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Linux is free to download at many sites on the net (just use a search engine and the word "Linux"), and there are free Linux browsers, word processors, etc. also free for the downloading (depending on who's version of Linux you get). However, such a changeover would be radical, and none of your current files could be converted for use with it. You can save word-processing files as plain text files, and then they can be opened by other WP programs. So it depends on what you're doing with your computer as to how easy it will be to change over to a linux OS. -JoAnne DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JoAnne: txt files
-Caveat Lector- You can save word-processing files as plain text files, and then they can be opened by other WP programs. So it depends on what you're doing with your computer as to how easy it will be to change over to a linux OS. -JoAnne Plain text? Do you mean a .txt file or an ACSII file? Converting to ACSII would work in other formats (with any fancy things such as underlining, etc. looking like gobbledy-gook symbols), but I didn't know a .txt file would work. HOFFA P.S. Word processing files are only one small part of such a switch-over. Linux is a very different environment from Windows, and, as you say, it would depend on what you are doing with your computer. I have both operating systems on my machine. I use a program called System Commander Deluxe to run Win 95 and Linux and can switch back and forth between them. I would recommend this course of action for Edward. It would make his transition easier and not as full of surprises. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JoAnne: txt files
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:43:29 -0500, you, "J. Hoffa" [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: -Caveat Lector- You can save word-processing files as plain text files, and then they can be opened by other WP programs. So it depends on what you're doing with your computer as to how easy it will be to change over to a linux OS. -JoAnne Plain text? Do you mean a .txt file or an ACSII file? Converting to ACSII would work in other formats (with any fancy things such as underlining, etc. looking like gobbledy-gook symbols), but I didn't know a .txt file would work. The .txt extension is just a convention for straight ASCII files, so we're talking about the same thing. You can conceivably give a .txt extension to any file -- there's nothing special about the extension that changes the kind of file it is -- but what I'm talking about is "save as ASCII without formatting" or whatever the word processor wants to call it. P.S. Word processing files are only one small part of such a switch-over. Yes, you're right. I think there may be conversion programs for other types of files but it would take some searching. Linux is a very different environment from Windows, and, as you say, it would depend on what you are doing with your computer. I have both operating systems on my machine. I use a program called System Commander Deluxe to run Win 95 and Linux and can switch back and forth between them. I would recommend this course of action for Edward. It would make his transition easier and not as full of surprises. Good idea. -JoAnne DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JoAnne: WIn 98--yadda, yadda, yadda
-Caveat Lector- The .txt extension is just a convention for straight ASCII files, so we're talking about the same thing. You can conceivably give a .txt extension to any file -- there's nothing special about the extension that changes the kind of file it is -- but what I'm talking about is "save as ASCII without formatting" or whatever the word processor wants to call it. Such as .doc for WordPad files, .wpd for Word Perfect files, etc.? Is that what you're referring to? Let me explain. I realize that the extension does not make the file what it is and that extensions can be changed without altering the file (although Windows recognizes files by their extensions and will attempt to use the appropriate program to open them; in fact, Windows will warn you if you try to change an extension to another simply by clicking on the name and trying to type in the new extension, i.e., changing a .bmp--bit map image--to a .dll--a dynamic link library file). However, different file types can be set up to open a particular type of document as specified by the user (by using the "Open With" dialog box), actions for existing file types can be changed, and completely new actions for existing file types can be created (the "New Action" dialog box). In fact, one can add an extra extension to an existing file extension, thus creating what is called a MULTIPLE extension. However, this cannot be done in a Windows dialog box. It requires editing the registry (HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT). As for the types of text files that a Windows-based word processor can create, they are legion. There are text only files (using the ANSI character set), text only files (using the ASCII character set), MS-DOS text files, RTF (rich text format files--these include fancy stuff such as underlining), OEM text, and on and on. So you see, when you said "a text file," I needed a little clarification, and I never assume that when someone is discussing computers that they actually know more than they reveal through what they initially say. I wanted to know what you meant by "plain text," and I thought that you might mean a file with a the .txt extension, not realizing what ASCII even was or even what a file extension deliniates, for that matter. If you had come back with, "What is ASCII?" or "Isn't .txt short for 'plain text?'" then I would know at what level to next approach your comment. Does that help you see why I said what I said and why I phrased it that way? I didn't really expect you to come back with what you said above. So, in one way, I guess I did make an assumption! I do not mean to suggest that I thought you didn't know what you were talking about. It's just that I didn't want to make any hasty assumptions that you knew much more than you first said. Sometimes it's better to err on the side of caution and then take it from there. :-) HOFFA DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jimmy: txt files
-Caveat Lector- Jimmy: Plain text? Do you mean a .txt file or an ACSII file? Converting to ACSII would work in other formats (with any fancy things such as underlining, etc. looking like gobbledy-gook symbols), but I didn't know a .txt file would work. Actually, my biggest problem would be .exe's, so your solution is BRILLIANT! Thanks for the suggestion; I've got to go see a friend about an operating system. Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JoAnne: Rosetta_stone.dll
-Caveat Lector- JoAnne: As far as I am aware, word processing programs utilize .dll's (dinamic linking libraries) to tell the program what type format the file is in. As it happens, so do other programs which are brought up in the boot process. They look first (anybody correct me if I'm wrong about this process) for something to tell them what to open a program with and that usually requires a .dll. What I do remember from having loaded this OS is that it was almost all .dll's with a few .exe's mixed in. So, the problem between Linux and Windows is that they do not "speak the same language." Neither do most or all of the programs which run within Windows. What I'm looking for is a Rosetta Stone in the form of a monster .dll :-) Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
