[CTRL] UPI: China needs an enemy, expert says
China needs an enemy, expert says United Press International - June 21, 2000 20:40 By ASHLEY BAKER WASHINGTON, June 21 (UPI) - The Chinese Communist Party's aggressive military buildup, like that of Nazi Germany and the former Soviet Union, is fueled by their need to be seen as fighting outside enemies, a China expert told lawmakers Wednesday. "China is carrying out a massive military buildup not because it faces threats or dangers - it does not - but rather because it remains a communist dictatorship and needs enemies," said Arthur Waldron, a professor of international relations at the University of Pennsylvania. "Absent some systematic change in China, we can expect a steady level of military tension with Beijing with the real possibility of a crisis." Testifying before the House Armed Services Committee, Waldron also cited the Chinese military's increasing importance in domestic affairs, stating that it was "in the leadership's best interest to give them what they want which is the best and most advanced of everything." The hearing on China's emerging military comes as allegations of Chinese espionage at top secret U.S. weapon's labs, the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and possible arms sales to Taiwan have driven U.S.-China relations to a three-decade low. Waldron characterized hints by some policymakers that the United States loosen ties with Japan so as to appease China "deeply worrying." "The pattern is so similar to what occurred before World War II: the cutting of Japan's alliance with Britain, the substitution of a weak miltilateral system (and) an international tilt toward China," said Waldron. Michael Pillsbury, an adjunct research associate at the National Defense University, told lawmakers that U.S. concerns over China are made worse by the intelligence community's relative ignorance. "Our government and universities invest very little in understanding Chinese security issues, probably less than ten percent of what is spent on analyzing the former Soviet Union," said Pillsbury. "Perhaps worst of all, our China specialists disagree vehemently among themselves about what China's strategy may be." Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] VATICAN JESUITS INVENTED CONFUCIANISM?
VATICAN JESUITS INVENTED CONFUCIANISM?
The Chineseness of Confucianism -- is the focus of Lionel M. Jensen,
anassociate professor of history and the director of Chinese studies at the
University of Colorado at Denver. Jensen contends that there was no such
thing as Confucianism until Jesuit missionaries entered China in the late
sixteenth century.
Until their arrival there were merely the spiritual and ethical traditions
of the ru, China's elite scholarly class, who, thanks to the off-and-on
patronage of emperors over the years, enjoyed a monopoly on education and on
the staffing of bureaucratic posts, by means of the civil-service
examinations they administered.
The ru claimed to be carrying on the tradition of Confucius, and he
certainly enjoyed pride of place in their veneration as the leading
propagator of ru values. However, as Jensen points out in his book
Manufacturing Confucianism: Chinese Traditions and Universal Civilization
(1997), the Analects was only one of several literary classics esteemed and
taught by the ru (the others are attributed to Mencius and other early ru
teachers). Using the model of Christian theology, which centers on the
person of Jesus Christ, the Jesuits recast the ru tradition as a
full-fledged religion centered on the person of its supposed founder,
Confucius, who they believed had providentially stumbled across monotheism
(in his references to "heaven") and Christian morality (in his version of
the Golden Rule).
Jensen says that in exalting Confucius, the Jesuits tended to ignore any
Chinese philosophical writings other than the Analects, and they did not
value China's other, far more widely practiced religious traditions,
including Buddhism, Taoism, and the omnipresent folk cults of gods and
ghosts. The missionaries promoted their Christianized version of ru doctrine
to the West when they returned home.
And then, Jensen theorizes, it was only a matter of time before the
Enlightenment philosophes adopted Confucius, savoring his apparent
reasonableness and his skepticism about the supernatural. The philosophes in
turn created and popularized the image of Confucius that persists among
Westerners to this day, and in the process spread the misapprehension that
Confucianism is the baseline religion of China in the way that Roman
Catholicism is the baseline religion of Spain. In fact, almost no one
practices Confucianism in China today, and even in premodern times only
scholars, bureaucrats, and occasionally emperors followed the ru tradition.
If China can be said to have a baseline religion, it is a mixture of popular
Taoism and folk beliefs.
According to Jensen, the Jesuits invented the very word "Confucius," a
Latinization of Kongfuzi ("Very Reverend Master Kong") -- itself an
appellation not found in ru literature (which called the sage simply Kongzi,
or "Master Kong"), although it is occasionally found on the "spirit tablets"
honoring him in ru temples. Jensen does not believe that Kongzi even
existed. "I think he's a literary trope," Jensen says. "He's a figure who
came to stand for certain things." Jensen is currently researching the
possibility that Kongzi -- whose birth, like that of Jesus, is the subject
of many miraculous tales -- had his origins as a mythological figure of
ancient Chinese fertility cults.
Any additional information any of you guys can provide - please do so.
This history interestingly fits a puzzle planted in my mind by author Paul
Blanshard, who wrote an extensive book which enunciated, in excellent
comparison form, the dogma, theories, practices, and rituals between the
totalitarian ideologies of the Vatican and its near-mirrored relative Soviet
Red Communism!
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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion? What's wrong with saying "sorry"? Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine? - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam Yeah, she apologized a decade ago for this and the "patriots" called it too little too late...now that she's a born-again Xian will it make a difference??? Should it It'll be fun to see if her religious beliefs effect opinion of others. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 2000 year old prediction...comes home to roost? (fwd)
= Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 01:37:44 -0700 From: John Patrick Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2000 year old prediction...comes home to roost? Wise men, My thanks to Doug for sending the below articles. Perhaps you should read the linked articles prior to reading my below comments. Perhaps you already fully understand that the several body politics comprising these United States of America could easily regain "the perfect law of liberty" and secure the blissful peace and tranquility of "heaven on earth" with just a simple decision. That decision is to turn from our wicked ways of tormenting, being busybodies, iniquity workers and generally thieves by any name against thy neighbors, hence being involved in Coveting! Yes, anyone of us who VOTES for any law that in anyway effects others in the land (their neighbors) is a VIOLATOR OF "THOU SHALT NOT COVET." Say it isn't so! Nonetheless, one of the authors of the linked articles, David Kupelian is a wise man. He sees the Hypocrisy of what is found in near all Christians today. As II Timothy says, there is not one Church of which is not corrupt - no not one. To quote David: "Just as America has the noble tradition of liberty, but not nearly the substance it once had, so do many nominal Christians of today have the appearance and words of faith, but deep down are no different than the "heathen" they wish to evangelize. If you disagree, tell me how, with something like 80 million evangelical Christians in the United States, an immoral, lying sociopath like Bill Clinton could have been elected president -- twice." Can't argue with that! And: "The Clinton presidency -- by all accounts the most corrupt in American history -- is proof positive that millions of "Christians" are capable of looking evil straight in the eye and thinking it is good." Now, I can argue with the above statement, but, only from the standpoint that "these people draw near to me (The Creator) with their mouths and honor me with their lips, but, their hearts are far from me" and are calling themselves Christians, when in fact, they are nothing but Anti-Christ's and "ye shall know them by their fruits." In reality, there isn't enough true Christians in these United States of America to fill up Dodger Stadium. And, for those of you who are at this moment false judging me in thinking I must think of myself as "Holier than Thou," no I don't consider myself a true Christian either as I am only in the category of being begotten again, not born again as I am just an aspiring Christian - you see, I haven't made it to righteousness yet and therefore I am not yet walking in THE WAY. Faith without works is DEAD, for, our faith is proven by our works. Say it isn't so! Further: "Their belief system, instead of upgrading their lives, justifies their sin. They see themselves as having a sort of spiritual "diplomatic immunity." They are saved, after all, and therefore can do what they want with impunity, with no fear of spiritual law enforcement authorities." Ah yes, that old dispensational doctrine of your saved just by calling on the Son as your Savior, because after all, we are living in the dispensational period of Grace (nothing but horse pucky and perhaps the prime reason most Christians are today DEAD in Christ). What blasphemy - your faith is proven by your works - hence, being known by your fruits. Simply, "without works, faith is dead." Still further: "They are saved, so to hell with everybody and everything else. They're waiting for the rapture, and enjoying God's piecemeal judgment of the world. They have almost completely lost the ability to recognize evil as evil, and to oppose it -- not with anger, but with love and strength, as Jesus did. Without real virtue, all that's left is hypocrisy, and Christianity in America today is full of it." And they have "itching ears and will get themselves a host of teachers to satisfy themselves." Just try and offer up the love to help "them" change their ways from being and "aider and abetter" to crimes such as theft by Organized Mobs such as the City of Tucson, County of Pima, State of Arizona or United States and soon the United Nations. Better duck though because the FALSE JUDGING will spring from their mouths like the breath of a dragon. Nonetheless, take a look at the two links below. If the hyper link is not working, just copy and past the URL to your Browser Address Bar. I'm quite sure you will find the
Re: [CTRL] UPI: China needs an enemy, expert says
Could a war drive the Chinese political / industrial / military machine
complex?
On which side would one find the world bankers and industrialists - same as
ww1, ww2, Korea and Viet Nam ?
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Subject: [CTRL] UPI: China needs an enemy, expert says
China needs an enemy, expert says
United Press International - June 21, 2000 20:40
By ASHLEY BAKER
WASHINGTON, June 21 (UPI) - The Chinese Communist Party's
aggressive military buildup, like that of Nazi Germany and the
former Soviet Union, is fueled by their need to be seen as
fighting outside enemies, a China expert told lawmakers
Wednesday.
"China is carrying out a massive military buildup not because it
faces threats or dangers - it does not - but rather because it
remains a communist dictatorship and needs enemies," said Arthur
Waldron, a professor of international relations at the University
of Pennsylvania. "Absent some systematic change in China, we can
expect a steady level of military tension with Beijing with the
real possibility of a crisis."
Testifying before the House Armed Services Committee, Waldron
also cited the Chinese military's increasing importance in
domestic affairs, stating that it was "in the leadership's best
interest to give them what they want which is the best and most
advanced of everything."
The hearing on China's emerging military comes as allegations of
Chinese espionage at top secret U.S. weapon's labs, the bombing
of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and possible arms sales to
Taiwan have driven U.S.-China relations to a three-decade low.
Waldron characterized hints by some policymakers that the United
States loosen ties with Japan so as to appease China "deeply
worrying."
"The pattern is so similar to what occurred before World War II:
the cutting of Japan's alliance with Britain, the substitution of
a weak miltilateral system (and) an international tilt toward
China," said Waldron.
Michael Pillsbury, an adjunct research associate at the National
Defense University, told lawmakers that U.S. concerns over China
are made worse by the intelligence community's relative
ignorance.
"Our government and universities invest very little in
understanding Chinese security issues, probably less than ten
percent of what is spent on analyzing the former Soviet Union,"
said Pillsbury. "Perhaps worst of all, our China specialists
disagree vehemently among themselves about what China's strategy
may be."
Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights
reserved.
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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, she apologized a decade ago for this and the "patriots" called it too little too late... Why couldn't she have a change of heart? I personally know untold numbers of people who during the 60s were radically opposed to the war, who called for 'sharing the wealth' and promoted collectivism... By the 1980s they were all yuppies, and voted for Reagan. Many are now officers of banks. now that she's a born-again Xian will it make a difference??? Probably not. What would all those rednecks with "I'm not Fonda Hanoi Jane" bumperstickers do? Should it No. Her religious beliefs are her own, and shouldn't have any bearing one way or another on what she did a generation ago. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion? What's wrong with saying "sorry"? Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine? Dude, she already did her lil' mea culpa a decade ago...to the jeers of the far right...my point is that if her recent degradation...er, I mean conversion to hardcore Xianity makes her apology any more acceptable now than it was then...that's a weird standard...and the so-called "patriots" will have shown themselves to be a VERY fickle lot indeed. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UPI: China needs an enemy, expert says
In a message dated 6/22/00 3:21:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On which side would one find the world bankers and industrialists - same as ww1, ww2, Korea and Viet Nam ? Three sides. On both the opposing and their own. Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] CIA and invasion of Eritrea
HI all, Hey, anyone ever heard of Kaliningrad? Where the Soviet's had their main fleet I think? Apparently this is the biggest route of drugs into Europe, as they transit this port through the Russian mob's hands. The Balkans route is the one that gets attention, but what about the Russians? (other than for you Mike) Here are some clips from a couple notes to me from a friend on this issue, on the FARC getting their arms from the Russians, then washing their money through the NY banks, as I recently quoted Mike saying in an article for HT. Peace, Preston "Virtually all the Russian ordnance that moves into Colombia goes across the docks at Turbo in Uraba State on the Caribbean, and Uraba State is run entirely, lock, stock and gunbarrel, by the rightwing Autodefensas militias of Carlos Castano. Which means that the initial coke-for-arms exchanges in Colombia are necessarily brokered originally by thugs under Castano's effective jurisdiction. The FARC actually gets most of its ordnance smuggled in the back way, through Ecuador and Peru, I understand, and they pay for all this snuff stuff with money, not directly with cocaine. Which means that when it comes to DIRECT dope-for-arms transactions, it's Castano's rightwingers who rightfully ought to get lambasted and finger-pointed in print for it. Whereas the poor FARC has to take its cocaine money and wash it a couple times before they pay for guns with it. Of course, they're paying it to exactly the same Russian thugs who are moving arms through Turbo to Castano's people, so it all gets horribly complicated and economically incestuous, and I don't believe it makes enough of a difference that we have to bother elucidating the difference here--as long as we're aware of the difference ourselves, anyhow." "When it comes to dope moving from Colombia to Russia, the one place which the US State Department has NOT made a big deal of fingering is this little patch of Russian territory between Latvia and Poland that used to be called Ekaterinberg, or Ykaterinberg, I forget the spelling exactly. (note-This is Kaliningrad he means here, as he wrote me to correct himself later-Preston) It's a little chunk of property on the Baltic Sea (or maybe the North Sea), all to itself, unconnected to Russia, which the Russians have controlled as sovereign territory since the late 1800s or thereabouts. All it really is, see, is the home port of the main Russian naval fleet. And as soon as the USSR broke up ten years ago, the Russian naval commanders there went straight into business with the old Medellin cartel, it seems. So when you hear about Colombian cocaine being moved by submarines, that's where the subs came from. And so on. Anyhow, this little far-flung chunk of Russia has its own congressfolk in Moscow, its own governor, and its own protectors tight with the Kremlin inner circle--Voloshin and Berezovsky and those thugs. And NOBODY makes a big deal about it, including the high and mighty US Department of State. I got the impression that if somebody in the Alternative Press were to look into Ekaterinberg (or whatever it's called nowadays) (Kaliningrad-Preston) and start drawing attention to it, the bowels of the Mighty here in the US government might be disturbed exceedingly. FONT COLOR="#99"SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/6/_/475667/_/961654645/"BClick Here!/B/A
[CTRL] 2-Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] CIA and invasion of Eritrea
Preston: This is a great catch! If it can be sourced anywhere it is very valuable. Can you get a publication, author, witness? Anything that makes it useable in a hard news story? I am on deadlines and will be a poor correspondent for a while. One of the things I am using for my next cover story on Colombia in an MS-NBC piece showing that the Russians are flying big Ilyushin transports directly into FARC held territory after a single refueling stop in Lebanon. The transports are offloading weapons and filling up with cocaine which the FARC have allegedly taken as taxes to protect the traffickers in the regions. The huge ILs are capable of landing on pretty crappy runways. Remember that taxes are usually not in the form of US dollars to FARC. Taxes are usually a percentage of the drug straight off the top that FARC takes. They get cash too but they also handle the drugs. There are no saints in Colombia. If the story you were sent can be sourced and made credible it is very important. One things is certain, just about everybody who has guns to sell is selling them into Colombia right now. It's gonna blow big time. Mike Ruppert www.copvcia.com www.suppressedwriters.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 11:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CIA-DRUGS] CIA and invasion of Eritrea HI all, Hey, anyone ever heard of Kaliningrad? Where the Soviet's had their main fleet I think? Apparently this is the biggest route of drugs into Europe, as they transit this port through the Russian mob's hands. The Balkans route is the one that gets attention, but what about the Russians? (other than for you Mike) Here are some clips from a couple notes to me from a friend on this issue, on the FARC getting their arms from the Russians, then washing their money through the NY banks, as I recently quoted Mike saying in an article for HT. Peace, Preston "Virtually all the Russian ordnance that moves into Colombia goes across the docks at Turbo in Uraba State on the Caribbean, and Uraba State is run entirely, lock, stock and gunbarrel, by the rightwing Autodefensas militias of Carlos Castano. Which means that the initial coke-for-arms exchanges in Colombia are necessarily brokered originally by thugs under Castano's effective jurisdiction. The FARC actually gets most of its ordnance smuggled in the back way, through Ecuador and Peru, I understand, and they pay for all this snuff stuff with money, not directly with cocaine. Which means that when it comes to DIRECT dope-for-arms transactions, it's Castano's rightwingers who rightfully ought to get lambasted and finger-pointed in print for it. Whereas the poor FARC has to take its cocaine money and wash it a couple times before they pay for guns with it. Of course, they're paying it to exactly the same Russian thugs who are moving arms through Turbo to Castano's people, so it all gets horribly complicated and economically incestuous, and I don't believe it makes enough of a difference that we have to bother elucidating the difference here--as long as we're aware of the difference ourselves, anyhow." "When it comes to dope moving from Colombia to Russia, the one place which the US State Department has NOT made a big deal of fingering is this little patch of Russian territory between Latvia and Poland that used to be called Ekaterinberg, or Ykaterinberg, I forget the spelling exactly. (note-This is Kaliningrad he means here, as he wrote me to correct himself later-Preston) It's a little chunk of property on the Baltic Sea (or maybe the North Sea), all to itself, unconnected to Russia, which the Russians have controlled as sovereign territory since the late 1800s or thereabouts. All it really is, see, is the home port of the main Russian naval fleet. And as soon as the USSR broke up ten years ago, the Russian naval commanders there went straight into business with the old Medellin cartel, it seems. So when you hear about Colombian cocaine being moved by submarines, that's where the subs came from. And so on. Anyhow, this little far-flung chunk of Russia has its own congressfolk in Moscow, its own governor, and its own protectors tight with the Kremlin inner circle--Voloshin and Berezovsky and those thugs. And NOBODY makes a big deal about it, including the high and mighty US Department of State. I got the impression that if somebody in the Alternative Press were to look into Ekaterinberg (or whatever it's called nowadays) (Kaliningrad-Preston) and start drawing attention to it, the bowels of the Mighty here in the US government might be disturbed exceedingly. SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/6/_/475667/_/961654645/
[CTRL] Henious Indiscretions......?????
I have known a lot of poor whites in my day but hey did not go on shooting sprees, murder people who just happen to be in the way and now want forgiveness for their crimes? Hope Bush does not give in when it comes to his turn at bat. This man, read his history - a poor young black, so typical of these poor young blacks.like the black who stole a car with a 6 year old still in back seat which the mother had carefully strapped into a seatbelthe was drug through the streets in 85 mile chase and it took two white men ramming to car, to stop it - what was left of the boy is indescrible. And then the makings of a real little killer murdering a little white 6 year old.this kid was six too and had previously stabbed another six year old with pencil. We are told we should hug this little bastard who was smart enough to ditch the gun. Sad though, poor kid - father in prison and mother "working" two jobs but has to work for a white, this illiilitrate animal who has second job won't say whreleft her kid in her brother's crack house. Would you want these people in your slum, Mr. Gore? Like these people now from Mexico bringing in all kids of disease. America is a corporation and a private corporation. We let these animals come up and run drugs and swim in rivers full of their own pollution including raw sewage..What is in their plastic bags they carry - are the all drug runners for what we know to be called a Mafia? And Little Havana in Miami - been there lately to this once beautiful city with people drunk and urinating in streets as they do in Mexico. Poor is poor, but most white people I know raise their children to be clean and honest but now thanks to television and bussing, we find a lot of stray animals has brought some of children, down to the level of animals in the streetsRap Music and oh those Black Panthers has been ressurrected by HIll and Bill, to get Bush. Well American is becoming a cess pool of disease and AIDS and will be like South Africa unless somebody does something. But it is genocide time ought to write a song about that, for the rich and famous are building hotels about the world.and plan to invade Cuba once again, with no doubt the little Red Herring Elian as their standard. Not that anybody cares.Castro has cleaned out Cuba and sent his refuse to our shores. And watch out Californiapeople are being told that Mexico owns Californiaso wait for the Revolution, and Remember the Alamo. Or move to Mexico or Cuba or little Havana and make yourself at home. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Henious Indiscretions......?????
Story on executio plan did not go...here it is. www..com Battle escalates as execution nears Gary Graham's supporters put pressure on Texas officials Condemned Texas inmate Gary Graham remains defiant as supporters try to stop his scheduled execution. By Paul Duggan THE WASHINGTON POST AUSTIN, Texas, June 21 As Texas's pardons board prepares to vote Thursday on Gary Graham's petition for a sentence commutation or reprieve, opponents and supporters of his planned lethal injection have escalated their public relations battle over one of the most debated death penalty cases of Gov. George W. Bush's tenure. 'I'm going to look at the innocence and guilt of each person, and whether or not the person has had full access to the courts.' TEXAS GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH TO HIS MANY supporters, Graham is not a murderer but a "victim," an innocent man railroaded into a "killing machine" known as the Texas death penalty system. But to those in favor of his scheduled execution Thursday, Graham is not only a murderer but a remorseless one, a manipulator whose highly publicized campaign for clemency is based on lies and misguided sympathy. After a week of demonstrations here and elsewhere in the country, Graham's supporters said they intend to show up in huge numbers Thursday outside the state penitentiary in Huntsville, 130 miles east of Austin, where Texas carries out its executions. Officials there said security would be exceptionally tight around the prison, where 221 inmates have been put to death since the restoration of capital punishment in 1976, including 134 since Bush took office 5½ years ago. "We're calling for 10,000 people to come to Huntsville on June 22 for an emergency day of protest," Graham, 36, said in a nationally televised interview. BOARD REVIEWS CASE Secluded from the turmoil, the 18 members of Texas's Board of Pardons and Paroles all Bush appointees are studying hundreds of pages of legal briefs, police reports and court records filed by prosecutors and Graham's attorneys. Photojournalist Ken Light takes a rare look into the faces and lives of doomed, forgotten men on Texas death row. Graham, charged with killing a man in a 1981 parking lot robbery in Houston, was convicted based solely on the testimony of a woman who said she glimpsed the shooter's face for a few seconds. In statements videotaped by Graham's current laywers, two witnesses who were not called to testify at the trial said Graham was not the gunman they saw. Graham's attorneys point out that those witnesses have never been heard by a judge or jury. In affidavits filed with Graham's clemency petition, three trial jurors who recently viewed the videotaped statements said they would not have voted to convict Graham if they had heard those witnesses in court. Graham is seeking a commutation of his sentence to life in prison or a four-month reprieve so that the two witnesses can testify before the pardons board. The board members, scattered across the state, rarely meet as a group. As in Graham's case, they normally review petitions individually and fax their votes to Austin. What's your view on the death penalty?I support it as it standsIt should be abolishedI support the system but it should be overhauled. Vote to see results If a majority of the board votes against clemency, it would spare Bush, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, a difficult political decision, because he would be legally powerless to stop the execution. But if a majority of the board favors clemency, it would be up to Bush to grant or deny it. The board's decision likely will come just hours before Graham's scheduled 6 p.m. (CDT) execution. BUSH HOLDS FIRM While Graham's supporters staged demonstrations this week in Austin, New York, Chicago and other cities, anti-death penalty activists dogged Bush at campaign stops in California. At a Los Angeles news conference today, Bush avoided commenting specifically on Graham's case, but reiterated his faith in the Texas death penalty system. Bush's state leads the nation in the number of executions by a wide margin. "I analyze each case when it comes across my desk," Bush said, in what has become his standard reply to death penalty questions during the presidential campaign. "I'm going to look at the innocence and guilt of each person, and whether or not the person has had full access to the courts. And as far as I'm concerned, there has not been one innocent person executed since I've been the governor." State-by-state stats MSNBC InteractiveFind out more about the demographics of death row Texas law allows the governor to issue a one-time, 30-day stay of execution for a condemned prisoner. Bush approved such a reprieve for the first time three weeks ago, so DNA tests could be conducted in the case of death row inmate Ricky McGinn. But Bush's office said he cannot issue a 30-day reprieve for Graham,
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] ELEVEN DAYS -- FOUR RIOTS -- ANARCHISTS -- BLACK PANTHERS --WHAT'S NEXT?
If this is the case and they are trying to cause riots... Bush jr. won't call off that execution. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
SkeptiNews 000622a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * The previous bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/21_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No kilted hackers were arrested during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ! CORRECTION: URL for "US Military Non-Lethal Weapons" should be: http://www.sightings.com/political/weapons/usnonlethal.htm ! CORRECTION: URL for "Marijuana 'helps tumours grow'" should be: http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid%5F798000/798721.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ufo Roundup. CATTLE MUTILATED IN COLORADO UFO FLAP - FLEET OF UFOs SIGHTED IN WASHINGTON STATE - NEW BOOK PROBES 1977 FORT BENNING CASE - CHILEANS SAY ALIEN EGGS WERE FOUND NEAR CALAMA - COUPLE SPOTS 9 UFOs SOUTH OF LOS ANGELES - EIGHT ORANGE SPHERE UFOs SEEN IN NEW SOUTH WALES - HUGE LIGHTED CRAFT SEEN IN CENTRAL SWITZERLAND - CHEMTRAILS REPORTED IN PORT CITY IN CROATIA - OUT-OF-PLACE PIRANHA BAFFLES RUSSIANS - 1875: THE STRANGEST DAY REVISITED. http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m22-005.shtml # UFO Fragments Near Sun: http://www.sightings.com/general2/sun.htm @ UFO cases, analysis, etc: http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/index.htm @ To Serve Man - ETs NWO: http://www.sightings.com/general2/toserve.htm # Portland, Eugene, And Western Oregon Hit With Chemtrails Again - when will the madness ever end? http://www.sightings.com/general2/port.htm : Is you an alien? D'ya lay eggs; devour humans; crash spacecraft; transport piranhas; spew chemtrails; mutilate cattle; float above cities; laugh a lot? D'ya feed false/misleading/humorous reports of your activities to us humans? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MARS IMAGES SUGGEST RECENT WATER FLOW. Despite its cold and arid surface, Mars displays signs of recent liquid water activity in numerous places, bolstering theories that simple religious life forms could have emerged on the red planet. http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/06/21/mars.water.03/ # Mars in pictures. (BBC) Nasa's revelation of surface water on Mars is just the latest in a long line of Red Planet discoveries. Watch for more faces. There: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_801000/801622.stm # Tombs Cast Fresh Light on Egypt Pyramid Builders. GIZA, EGYPT (Reuters) -- Restoration of tombs at the pyramids of Giza is casting fresh light on the builders of the towering monuments. They didn't need much help from aliens after all: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000622/04/science-egypt-tombs-dc # China Frets As Desert Takes Beijing by Storm - choking dust clouds envelop 12 million - encroaching desert has already devoured outlying communities. Doom: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000621/10/science-environment-china-dc : What's your favorite desert? Has it devoured any civilizations lately? Are Martian cities buried beneath the dunes? Were Martian/Chinese/Egyptian/Mayan pyramids all built by the same contractors? Is evidence buried under them?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ROCKETPLANE STARTUP WANTS MANAGEMENT TEAM. Hamilton,NZ. New Zealand Space- plane startup FIRESHIPS NZ today issued a call for marketing management personnel experienced in aerospace, airtransport, cyberspace-technology enterprise. http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m22-006.shtml # Russ, Kazakh Honchos Sign Deal on Cosmodrome. MOSCOW (Reuters) - Pres.Vlad Putin Kazakh Pres.Nursultan Nazarbayev signed a new treaty on the use of Russia's cosmodrome at Baikonur,which Kazakhstan inherited with the fall of Communism. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000620/18/science-space-russia-dc # Sharing Air, Water Dirty Laundry -- In Space. (Reuters) Will astronauts sharing recycled air and water in the tight confines of space stations for extended periods of time be vulnerable to infections? Not much more so than college roomies sharing a typical urban flat--as long as they do the dishes, sez NASA. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2602/hl/nasa_1.html : How do you manage your space activities? Do you approach space endeavours with commercial/governmental/collegiate/religious/artistic/alien attitudes? Can you maintain adequate sanitation of your station/finances/politics/mind? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Teens prefer sex, drugs, Net - Poll: 50% of graduating seniors say they're no longer virgins: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000621/17/leisure-poll # Anti-gay law scrapped in Scotland - men in skirts laughed, sang, hugged each other: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567528176-b30 # Lesbo mag pisses gays; bucks image of 'butch, comic, badly-dressed loners' http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/06/22/timfgneur03001.html # Nigeria state proclaims Islamic law. ABUJA (AP) Muslims in Nigeria's north cheered the
[CTRL] Fwd: Border river is also sewage drain
Here is more on disease being brought to America but boy the drugs in the plastic bags will be safe. Note today children from 2 to 5 are to be given Meningitis shots and they might as well say Anthrax shots or Nile Encelphalitis. 1 in 5 children will get brain swelling from these shots, you going to let them put that poison into your child and if something happens - touch, how unforunate? This is Clinton and Gore and Admiral Crowe, for he makes this vaccine too.the forced this crap on our troops - and the US Department of Health and Surgeon General, knows this vaccine will cripple and kill so many children or they will be mentally deprived after they are done.$58.00 a shot and 4 shots? All becaue well they say the ones most likely to get this are blacks, hispanics and I wonder whylook at the pictures here of Mexicans swimming in sewage of their own making and bringing disease in to our Country. Well goodbye California and good riddance - according to many psychics it is to fall into the drink with Florida anyway.maybe too much "peer" pressure. Read this garbage and when your kids come down with filth disease, are sent home from school with lice and other disease, remember Moses did not part the waters for this illegal refuse to our shoresso written by Emma Lazaras and placed on Statue of Liberty. I pay taxes to this corporation city in which I live and stae and USA..these people come up and get on welfare rolls and bring down any environment in which they live.We are told that they will just take things, like cars and bicycles, and oh that is supposed to be funny. Well this lady cop just shot someone who wanted to take her car for a joy ride, and maybe her too..she got the first shot, and he took his last breath.I keep remembring the 6 year old drug through the street by his heels by an animal at the wheel doing 85 mph..the body was torn apart. I imagine someone will try to save his soul before he burns in hell also. ASaba Having put most of their clothes in garbage bags for flotation, illegal immigrants in Mexicali, Mexico, head down the New River into the United States. Border Patrol agents rarely approach the river because it is so polluted. Border river is also sewage drainOfficials fear diseases as immigrants use route to get to U.S.By Eric Niiler MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR CALEXICO, Calif., June 21 As it flows north from Mexico into California's Imperial Valley, the New River not only brings with it more than 20 million gallons of raw sewage daily, but also a human cargo of illegal immigrants that may be drenched in bacteria and pollutants that cause communicable diseases. Public health officials along the border worry about this toxic, infested river and the people who use it as a route into the United States. The U.S. EPA is paying nearly $30 million to improve sewage treatment in Mexicali, Mexico. Should U.S. taxpayers be helping solve what's a Mexican problem?Yes, it's too serious to wait for Mexico to handle this aloneNo, Mexico should pay for its own waste problemsCan't decide Vote to see results A RECENT REPORT by the California Water Resources Control Board found that Mexicali is dumping 20 to 25 million gallons of raw sewage into the river daily because of breakdowns in the city's treatment system. That hasn't stopped dozens of immigrants who, on any given night, enter the water in Mexicali and float past a shopping center parking lot in Calexico, hoping to evade U.S. Border Patrol agents who usually don't jump in after them due to the pollution. Half-naked, the immigrants grasp inflated inner tubes with one hand and a plastic bag holding their belongings in the other. The human rafts hide in puffy mounds of greasy foam created from the river pollution. "I can sympathize with them. They're trying to feed their people," said Jose Angel, a senior engineer with the California Water Resources Board who tests California's New River each month for pollutants. "But clearly they may be carrying disease. Once they get out of the river, they are in grocery stores and other places." MSNBC environment coverage SOME 30 VIRUSES IN RIVER The New River originates just south of Mexicali and picks up agricultural pesticides, industrial wastes and human waste as it flows north. By the time it enters the United States at the small border town of Calexico, Calif., the river violates water quality standards by several hundred-fold, according to Angel. Advertisement Border agents who have jumped in to rescue drowning immigrants have been treated for skin rashes and infections. The river has been documented as the source of nearly 30 viruses from hepatitis A to polio, as well as caustic chemicals from the region's maquiladora factories, heavy metals such as mercury, and pesticides from Mexican farms. But the pollution is precisely what attracts illegal immigrants, or
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] ELEVEN DAYS -- FOUR RIOTS -- ANARCHISTS -- BLACK PANTHERS --WHAT'S NEXT?
I never believed in executions of any kind until now.let the punishment fit the crime. This stuff is being agitated by the Clintonites but it will backfire...Hill and Bill ran with the pack and still do. George Bush Sr. and Jr. were both gentlemen - Al Gore and Clinton and Hilliary, are just plaiin pigs.but then look at Waco - this administration will be known for their slaughter of the innocoents. 17 year old murders, shot othrs, and committed 20 some robberies? When I was 17 I was in College, and I worked for a living also - for I liked nice clothing and nice things, but I bought and paid for this stuff on my own. This animal is like one in Columbus, who robbed with 3 others a night convenience store. A pretty little blonde from poor family who worked for a living, a 14 year old black with sawed off shotgun for no reason, just shot off bottom half of her face - she lived. I imagine this black 14 year old has been set free by now. Know this - we need a good old fashioned KKK in this country for once, they ruled and you did not find garbage like the above murdering people in our town - they were escorted to city limits and were no permitted to walk in our residential areas to work on the farms. They all have this habit it seems, of want to urinae in streets in presense of small children. My two Uncles one Secret Service and one Naval Intelligence - we also Klansmen and believe me, they stood every man in his place, So it would seem if Black Panthers and these animals in Central Park and Gay Pride are being pushed on our kids, we will have to also form groups like KKK - mutual protection. I still remember the little girl whose face was blown off...beautiful little blonde blue eyed girl, and the animal that shot her had thoe horrible pigtails all over and mouth of Ubangi. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] ELEVEN DAYS -- FOUR RIOTS -- ANARCHISTS -- BLACK PANTHERS --WHAT'S NEXT?
On Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:43 AM, Aleisha Saba [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: George Bush Sr. and Jr. were both gentlemen - And you probably think it was good that Bush Sr. planned and helped execute the JFK assassination, that the Bush crime family is responsible for a large part of the drugs sold in this country, and that their Stepford wives are the ideal companions for all their endeavors. I agree they are gentlemen - their good side is very pleasant. But what about their dark side? Al Gore and Clinton and Hilliary, are just plaiin pigs Bill Clinton, yes. Not the other two. All three possess intelligence that provokes hate in those less blessed. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hollywood produce movies to spread hatred
: This column by John F. Sugg appeared in the May 18, 2000, issue of the Weekly : Planet. : Semper Agitprop : There were only three other moviegoers at the AMC Old Hyde Park cinema : for an afternoon showing of William Friedkins Rules of Engagement two : weeks ago. One was a kid who sat mesmerized and mute as scenes of horrific : violence rolled across the screen. The other two were elderly men, retired : Korean War-era G.I.s, I would learn, who quietly murmured their support of : U.S. Marines blowing the brains out of unarmed prisoners of war and mowing : down civilian women and children. : After the film, I asked the teenage youth what impact the film had had : on him. With a macho puff of his thin, boyish chest, he said he was : thinking about joining the Army. The old soldiers, also corralled by me, : nodded approvingly at what they undoubtedly perceived as the boys : patriotic fervor. "I cant get upset at a few Arabs getting killed," said : one. "Theyd do it to us in a flash." The other added: "Weve got to be : there, so we might as well make sure they fear us. Otherwise the whole : world is going to go to hell." : No, Im not going to bash those veterans, although they were warming : up to one of the most racist and xenophobic movies of all time, a film : being comp ared when reviewers have the savvy to see its underlying : politics, which sadly doesnt include any critics in the Tampa Bay area : with D.W. Griffiths Birth of a Nation. : The simple fact is that the box office hit had done its job, and the : spectators were performing their roles precisely as anticipated. Rules of : Engagement is an early 21st century manifestation of the "Two Minutes of : Hate" in George Orwells 1984. Instead of dehumanized machine gun-toting : Eurasian hordes threatening Oceanias soldiers on Orwells telescreens, : Rules of Engagement features dehumanized machine gun-toting Arab children : blasting away at U.S. Marines on the silver screen. : We cranked up the same genre of lies during Vietnam to justify our : wasting "gooks" women, children, elderly, infirm included. Rules of : Engagement pointedly depicts our soldiers now getting friendly with an old : Vietnam foe in the face of the new Super Global Bad Guy, the devious, : dirty, despicable ragheads/WOGs/camel-jockeys of the Middle East. : The message remains unaltered: We need to kill them (whoever "they" : currently are) before they kill us and take what is rightfully ours (which : although unstated in Rules of Engagement, means the oil under Arabs : soil). : Viewers are motivated to hate a strange, alien enemy. Boys get their : testosterone pumped up and rush to the Army recruiter. Job well done, : Hollywood. : Rules of Engagement is propaganda, or as Orwell called it, "agitprop," : in its purest form. The movie is lousy courtroom drama, and has a plot so : implausible that only the most gullible would buy into it. Unfortunately, : we are a nation of the most gullible. : Heres what Orwell predicted 51 years ago would be the role of the : mass media on citizens: "They could be made to accept the most flagrant : violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of : what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public : events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they : remained sane." : In America today, we remain sane by believing the propaganda. If we : took an honest look at the blood on our hands, wed run screaming to the : nearest asylum. : In perhaps the largest terrorist action in modern history what will : be remembered as "The Cowards War" NATO, from safe 15,000-foot : distances, attacked the civilian population of Yugoslavia, poisoned the : nations lands and water, destroyed its cities and industries, and caused : untold suffering that will last for generations. : The justification was a mountain of U.S. and British bullshit about : the Serbs killing 100,000 or more Kosovars. A year after the war, how many : Kosovar bodies have been recovered? Fewer than 3,000. The suffering of the : Kosovars is real so is the general free-for-all persecution of virtually : all ethnic groups in Yugoslavia by one or another ancient enemy. But our : war machine wasnt cranked up to protect people it was to ensure, in : flagrant violation of the rule of law and the United Nations, our : strategic dominance and NATOs colonial grasp, however many deaths : resulted. The Yugoslav war was totally and cruelly insane, but we maintain : our equilibrium via Prozac and believing the spin-doctors. : Or consider the most notorious case of agitprop in recent history. On : Oct. 10, 1990, a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl named Nayirah testified to : Congress about how Saddam Husseins troops had thrown infants out of : hospital incubators. The babes had been left to die, so the tale went, : while the Iraqis carted away the incubators as
Re: [CTRL] CIA Hosts Gay Pride Meeting at its Headquarters
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : CIA Hosts Gay Pride Meeting at its Headquarters, Paper Says : : Langley, Virginia, June 9 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency : held a gay pride rally for employees at its headquarters intended to show how : far the agency has come from its past, when gay men and women were : automatically barred from joining the agency because they were thought to be a : blackmail risk, the Washington Post said. CIA Executive Director David Carey, : the agency's No.3, welcomed delegates, which included busloads of gay employees : from the National Security Agency, and introduced speaker Representative Barney : Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat. Gay intelligence officers began being open : about their sexuality after President Bill Clinton signed an executive order in : 1995 banning the denial of security clearances ``solely on the basis of the : sexual orientation of the employee,'' the Post said. : Last month the U.S. House Intelligence Committee accused the CIA and other : American security agencies of poor organization and being inadequately funded, : rendering them unable to effectively combat new post-cold war threats such as : terrorism. : CIA spokesman Bill Harlow said the session was sponsored by a group called the : Agency Network of Gay and Lesbian Employees. A similar event was held last : year, he said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] ELEVEN DAYS -- FOUR RIOTS -- ANARCHISTS -- BLACK PANTHER
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: So much has happened in the last eleven days that it appears we are getting ready to see the long, hot summer of anarchy, rape and race riots that RMNews Sources have predicted. It is highly disingenuous to associate rape and anarchy. Anarchists are unilaterally and proactively opposed to rape in a way the cops don't even pretend to be. We actually DO something about it. It's a major issue for us, both for women and for men. If, as we saw in NYC, you go to a cop for help in a potential rape situation, help will not be forthcoming. Cops aren't here to protect us. Cope are here to investigate crimes AFTER they happen. Even at that they aren't very good. And if a cop rapes you (yeah, it does happen) he probably wont even be arrested for it. If you make a stink about it his buddies will terrorize you into backing off. But if you try to rape an anarchist, be warned. You'll probably end up in traction, and that's if you're lucky. Anarchist women are, by their very nature, not passive victims. They don't call 911. They resist with great vigor. A more fearless bunch of women you'd be hard put to find. They don't hold still for the riot squad and they sure as hell don't hold still for rapists. Many are trained martial artists and they're all feisty. Not only that, but they tend to run in packs. Some been known to actually hunt down rapists, which is more than you can say for most cops. Occasionally they even set traps for rapists. So like I said, be warned. Don't try to rape one. Don't even think about it. It would just be asking for trouble, BIG trouble, maybe your last. As for male rape (yeah, it happens) I must point out that the first men's anti-rape organization in recent history was formed by anarchist prisoners in Walla Walla, Washington, over twenty years ago. They formed a fighting squad to defend young, helpless new prisoners from rape. They called it "Men Against Sexism." They kicked butt. This upset the social order inside Walla Walla. The guards singled out a man named Carl, who they percieved as a leader, and tortured him to death. Four of them held him down while a fifth sodomized him with a club till he bled to death. Men Against Sexism, though, lived on. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 6/22/00
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Money Laundering Evil Off-shore Centers Threaten New World Order The tenacles of worldwide financial control reach out. Russia and Israel were among 15 countries named on Thursday as "non co-operative" jurisdictions in the fight against money laundering. The 26-nation Financial Action Task Force on Money Laundering, operating under the auspices of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, urged its members to ask their financial institutions to take precautions when dealing with transactions originating in the named jurisdictions. The FATF said in Paris that the list was an open and ongoing exercise. Some jurisdictions could be removed from it, while others might be added. Other countries named included Liechstenstein, Lebanon, the Philippines, Panama and the Bahamas. Caribbean havens such as the Cayman Islands, Dominica, St Kitts-Nevis and St Vincent and the Grenadines made the list, as did the Cook Islands, Marshall Islands, Nauru and Niue in the Pacific. European tax havens like Monaco, Gibraltar and Jersey and Guernsey in the Channel Islands, did not. The 25 criteria set out by FATF in drawing up its list included excessive financial secrecy provisions, as well as lax supervision, weak legal requirements for registering businesses, inadequate resources for combating money laundering, and failure to criminalise it. The body has no direct enforcement powers. However, it has said that if territories and countries are found not to be co-operating in the fight against money laundering, efforts will initially be made to persuade them to amend their laws and practices. Pressure could also be applied through other multilateral forums, such as the Group of Seven leading industrial nations, the OECD, the Basle Committee, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. If offenders still fail to mend their ways, financial institutions in other countries could be instructed to monitor transactions and report suspicious dealings to supervisors, auditors and law enforcement authorities. The Financial Times, June 22, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Thomas Szasz, the Foucault Tribunal and the Support Coalition
Thank you, Eleanor; for your valuable efforts. @R
Please visit:
http://www.enabling.org/ia/szasz ("Cybercenter for Liberty and
Responsability")
The Foucault Tribunal on the State of Psychiatry:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~tribunal/index.htm
(for signing the petition, please go: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de
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Support Coalition: http://www.mindfreedom.org/
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Thomas Stephen Szasz; Professor of Psychiatry at the State University of New
York Health Science in Syracuse
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Some of his publications:
Myth of Mental Illness- ISBN 0060911514- Harper Trade- A classic work which
has revolutionized the Western world about the nature of the psychiatric
profession and the moral implications of its practices. In accordance with
"The Reader's Catalog": This famous and provocative attack on the psychiatric
profession rejects the medical pretences of psychoterapy and advocates an
approach that grants the individual full autonomy.
Schizophrenia: The Sacred Symbol of Psychiatry- ISBN: 0815602243- Syracuse
University Press/ October 1990- "The Reader's Catalog:" Argues that
scizophrenia is not a genuine disease, but has been invented by psychiatrists
as a way of locking up the nonconforming against their will. Schizophrenia is
a myth.
Cruel Compassion: Psychiatric Control of Society's Unwanted- ISBN 0815605102-
Syracuse University- April 1998; Synopsis: The author critizes psychiatry,
contending that "it victimizes the homeless and the mentally ill by coercively
institutionalizing them.
The Manufacture of Madness: A Comparative Study of the Inquisition and the
Mental Health Studies- ISBN: 0815604610; Publisher: Syracuse University
Comments: Szasz examines the similarities between the Inquisition and the
institutional psychiatry. His purpose is to show "that the belief in mental
illness and the social actions to which it lends have the same moral
implications and political consequences as had the belief in witchcraft and
the social actions to which led it.
Fatal Freedom- Comments: In this eloquent defense of every individual's right
to choose a voluntary death, renowned psychiatrist Szasz asks some of the most
significant ethical questions of our time.
Insanity: The Idea and its Consequences- ISBN: 0815604602 - Comments: Szasz
challenges the way both science and society define insanity, showing how the
concept of insanity relates to and differs from ideas of bodily illnesses,
social deviance, and the sick role. Originally published in 1987 by John Wiley
and Sons, Inc.; this education contains a new preface by the author.
(Copyright 1999- Book News Inc; Portland, Oregon.)
Anti-Freud: Karl Kraus's Criticism of Psychoanalisis- Szasz
[From "Support Coalition"] - They Say You're Crazy: How the World's Most
Powerful Psychiatrists Decide Who's Normal- by Paula Caplan, PhD; 1995;
Comments: Dr. Caplan found herself inside the process of updating psychiatry's
bible of labels, "the DSM". She blows the whistle on the pseudo science and
fraud.
There are many other publications sponsored by "Support Coalition." Visit
their website.
http://www.calweb.com/~welsh ("Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse," Cheryl
Welsh)
http://www.raven1.net (Eleanor White- Physical Engineer); specifics:
http://www.raven1.net/tactics.htm http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm ("Aerial
Mind Control") http://www.raven1.net.silsoun2.htm ("Silent Sound"- Judy Wall)
http://home.nas.net/~raven1/uncom/htm
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/local/h-pages/pro-freedom/ Mr. George Farquhar
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/2289/webpage.htm (Mr. Mojmir
Babacek)
http://www.aches-mc.org (ACHES- Patty Rehn)
http://www.datafilter.com/mc (Mr. Allen Barker)
http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/ ("The Mind Control Forum")
http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/index.html (Patricia Mougey)
http://www.psychops.com/ (K. Billings)
http://members.aol.com/alanyu5/ (Mr. Alan Yu)
http://www.earthpulse.com/ (Dr. Nick Begich and the research about
unclassified mind and envionmental control weapons and the practice of using
unwitting subjects for experimentation)
http://www.defraudingamerica.com/ (Mr. Rodney Stich)
http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/meth/gut.htm
http://www.bilderberg.org/ (World Dynamics and power, the Secret Government)
http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/nuremb1.htm ("The Nuremberg
Directives")
Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
SkeptiNews 000622b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/21_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No pyramids were sexually abused during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Look at a pretzel: http://www.glitterkitty.net/poser/thirpretz.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SEARCHING FOR EXTRATERRESTRIALS. Where Are They? Maybe we are alone in the galaxy after all: http://www.sciam.com/2000/0700issue/0700crawford.html # Crash Flash Caught on Moon - impact of comet, UFO, satellite, bomb, or what? http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2621/sp_meteor.html # New York Bright Cylinder Spotted: http://www.caus.org/mu062200.htm # Mars Find May Sway NASA, Euro plans. WASHINGTON. The prospect that NASA's Mars Global Surveyor has detected signs of water at a site on the Red Planet is likely to spark debate as to whether to send a robotic craft on location to look for life. http://www.alienzoo.com/news/a/26210011.cfm # Dumbfounding Dig. Archeology: Unearthed remains of a 5,500-year-old Syrian settlement suggest that cities arose substantially earlier than has been thought, and perhaps in more different regions. Everything we know is wrong: http://latimes.com/news/science/science/2622/t59092.html : Have you seen any definite signs of (extra-)terrestrial life/intelligence/ civilization lately? Have you colonized your universe/galaxy/planet/village yet? Did'ya have help from aliens/angels, deities/demons, robots/Romans, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Russia: Cult Of Pyramid Energy Draws Believers. Around the time Russia's financial pyramids crashed 5 years ago, ruining millions who believed in easy wealth for a handful of rubles, self-styled scientist Aleksandr Golod set about building another kind of miracle pyramid -- out of plastic. He says he's soaking up healing energy from the earth; many Russians believe him. http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2000/06/F.RU.000619153928.html # PSYCHIC SUES HOSPITAL -- 'X-RAY DESTROYED MY POWERS' -- A PHILADELPHIA psychic sued Temple University Hospital, claiming an X-ray they gave her destroyed her extra-sensory powers and wrecked her business. The jury awarded her $986,465. http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/11943.html @ New Millenium Thinker's Pledge - THE THINKER'S PLEDGE - NEW THINKING FOR THE MILLENIUM http://www.sbutton.com/homepages/philbachmann/4412.htm @ The Book is Dead, Long Live the Book: http://www.ctheory.com/r45.html @ Need for process-based semantic sets: www.sgml.u-net.com/semantics.htm : D'ya think about the past/present/future/other? Does technology interfere with y'r mental/spiritual/social/sexual development? Do pyramids enhance y'r orgasmic/transcendental/financial/millennial prospects? Are lawyers psychic? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Thousands greet a rainy summer dawn at Stonehenge. STONEHENGE,England (AP) Amid beating of drums,loud cheers,and pouring rain, thousands of revellers celebrated the summer solstice at the prehistoric monument of Stonehenge. The sun wasn't forthcoming, but that didn't seem to bother the 6000-strong crowd of druids, New Age followers and curiosity-seekers. Samba drummers mixed with robed druids, thousands of revellers packed the centre of the stone circle as dawn came: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/y/26210010.cfm # Celebrating Year 5008. LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) Bolivia's Aymara Indians celebrated the start of their 5008 calendar year Wednesday with a predawn ritual at the Tihuanacu ruins, coinciding with the southern hemisphere's winter solstice. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000622/07/odd-indians-dc : What's y'r favorite solstice/year/era/calendar/ritual? Have you celebrated any calendrical rituals lately? Did you behave ceremoniously/riotously/mind- controlled/randomly? Does solar radiation affect your mind/soul/stomach/eye? # Sunspots at peak of 11-year cycle www.alienzoo.com/news/y/26210009.cfm # Thais to See Longest Total Lunar Eclipse in 141 Years - waited a long time for it -it better be good: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/a/26210006.cfm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # IDEE FIXE - "Faster, Processor! Chill! Chill!" In an obsessive quest for ever-faster microprocessors, a rare breed of hi-tech tweakers known as "overclockers" risks fire, ice, and electric shock to test the limits of digital velocity. http://www.feedmag.com/feature/fr349_master.html?alert # Science Probes What Dreams Are Made Of. MIAMI (Reuters Health) - Where do we go when we dream? According to a leading expert on the subject, the human brain is the real 'dream-weaver,' adding shape and color to the stuff of daily life to create those magical, sometime
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole subject is invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives a damn. I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. You are totally free, and have my blessing, to believe what you will. I, and everyone else here is free to challenge information brought here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and been used to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and property. Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite many attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.). No attacking of beliefs you say...but you can attack the beliefs of Christians even though you can't prove with certainty that they espoused those beliefs. Did the ADL pay you to post this? FWP On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Josh, You've hurt my feelings now, to think I'm in your tribe too. So we take it that you endorse the Talmud then? I'd like to know why it isn't available in the public library, I think we all know why. Perhaps I could find some better writings on the Talmud, written by Jews. Would that appeal? I wouldn't want you to think I was only writing the Christian view. Perhaps the Kaballa? If I send something on that written by Christians would you say I particularly am deluded? Ahh if I send something on the Protocols written by a Christian will you also cut me down? I'm not particularly looking for Christian writers but bud you are outnumbered in USA. the chances of finding someone other than a Christian writer on this is slim. I have never seen a Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu ever take the trouble to write on these tabu subjects. Yet you particularly enjoy slandering Christians and Christianity and that's supposed to be Ok tarring everyone with the same brush. I posted it because it makes a change from always hearing bad things about Christianity and I thought it may be valuable to some. I'm not anti Jewish. Even some Jews don't know what's in the book. Just pick out what you want and leave the rest, if you don't then you are reduced to not sending stuff and commenting endlessly and tediously on those people's that do send..Its getting like a flock of seagulls pouncing on a tidbit to tear a piece for themselves. My posts are generating too many arguments. I haven't got time to pander to people's egos, its just information. I am interested in religious views of all kinds among other things.Pick on someone yer own size you big bully! Nicky -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 03:07 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Nicky Molloy wrote: Talmud Exposed http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#Talmud Exposed -- -- http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm Contents: The Talmud is Judasim's Holiest Book Some Teachings of The Jewish Talmud Insults Against The Blessed Virgin Mary Talmud Attacks Christians Christian Book Burning Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Tales of a Roman Holocaust A Revealing Admission Pharisiac Rituals A Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman Genocide Advocated by The Talmud Jewish Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are Not Humans The Teachings of Maimonides Deception and Dissimulation Judean-Christian Response to The Talmud The Talmud is Judaism's Holiest Book Wrong! No Jew who ever lived thought that. EVER! The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Wrong! No Jew in all of history ever thought that. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)." Total bullshit. The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis. Wrong! The Talmud is only studied by the ultra ortodox. Just about everyone in Israel has studied the actual Bible because the Bible is Jewish national history and part of school studies in the same way we
[CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] by Rabbi Meir Kahane, ztl
: Israel Today Always: Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me? : Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me? : by Rabbi Meir Kahane, zt"l : The following essay was written by Rabbi Kahane, of blessed memory, on : 21 Iyar 5746 (May 30, 1986). It is just as relevant now as it was then. : If we would like to know the heart of the tragedy of Israel, of the : Jewish-Arab struggle, of the reason why peace eludes a Jewish State : that so desires it, of the cause of the ongoing suffering and tragedy, : of the immutable rule that there will not be tranquility and peace for : the Jew or his state, let me explain. : Some time ago, an opinion poll was given to Arabs and Jews by sociology : Professor Ephraim Ya'ar of Tel Aviv University. The professor gave his : respondents a list of 14 factors that may or may not influence the : course of peace between Israel and the Arab states, and asked each of : them to rank the list in importance from one to 14. The results? The : Arabs placed "the will of G-d" first; the Jews placed it last. : Or another example: Yet another Tel Aviv University project was : conducted by its Jaffe Center for Strategic Studies. Respondents were : asked to comment on the Biblical verse, "The Guardian of Israel neither : slumbers nor sleeps." They were asked who, in their minds, represented : the Guardian of Israel. Fifty-seven percent replied "the Israeli army" : and 17% declared that it was G-d. And that, dear Jew, is the reason and : the source and the cause of a tragedy that is building up, and that, : unless swift, radical change takes place in Jewish thought and action, : will bring down horrors upon the Jew and his state, Heaven help us. : The truth is that the Jew has long since become the most unbelieving of : all people, the most atheistic of nations. Deluded by his intelligence : and intellectualism, believing that he inhabits the heavens, he turns : into the most arrogant and proud of men. Like some modern-day Adam, he : has eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and dreams of Divinity. Like some : modern-day builder of Babel, he is convinced that he can climb to the : heavens and conquer. His cleverness and brightness that so persuaded : him that he is the wisest and most perceptive of men, insures that he : will be the blindest and most obtuse. : No people and no faith is so convinced that its destiny is essentially : its own, in its own hands. None has relegated G-d to the bin of : antiquity, to the shadow of irrelevance, as the Jew. There are those : who are convinced that He does not exist. There are those who invent : Him as a Being Who, indeed, has a place, but it is conveniently limited : and He had better know it. There are those who pay prodigious amounts : of lip service and ritual to G-d and whose religion fills their lives : as long as there is no need to place their "belief" on the line in time : of danger. Few are the Jews who sincerely believe that victory in war : is totally in the hands of G-d, who are prepared to take the difficult : and dangerous steps their religion demands, lest they have to put their : faith where their claims are. : The people that were the most religious of all have become the most : indifferent to G-d. The People of the Book place more faith in that of : the check than the Bible. In time of crisis, the Jew does not believe : in anything, except that which he can see, touch, feel. He can see the : U.S. President; he believes in him far more than in the G-d of Abraham. : He can feel the Arabs; he fears them more than the intangible G-d he : pays lip service to as long as there is no crisis. He can touch the : tanks of the Israeli army, and so he prays that there will be enough of : them instead of believing that One is enough of Him. "For My people : have committed two evils; they have forsaken Me, the fountain of living : water, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no : water" (Jeremiah 2). : The truth is that we will swear our belief in the Omnipotence of the G- : d of Israel as long as this remains in the abstract, in the realm of : theory. We show our fervent belief in the miracles that happened : *yesterday*, but we shrink from testing them today or tomorrow. That : which we need not do ourselves is easily believed in and avidly taught : or sermonized. Yesterday is always smoothly dealt with - who needs to : place himself on the line? Who must be tested? The belief in the : *general* Omnipotence of G-d easily fills our hearts. It is only when : we must get down to specifics, to real and actual implementation of : faith in our own lives, that the hypocrisy becomes a stench which is : overpowering. : The G-d of Israel is not a Santa Claus. The religion of Israel is not a : plaything. If there is one thing above all that the Almighty desires of : us, *demands* of us, it is *faith*. "Therefore, the L-rd heard and was : wroth; and a fire was kindled against Jacob and anger also came up : against Israel, because they believed not in G-d and
Re: [CTRL] India-Israel Nuclear cooperation creates concern in Arab world
: India-Israel Nuclear cooperation creates concern in Arab world : By K. K. Katyal : NEW DELHI, JUNE 21. Sections of the Arab world are upset by reports of : the Home Minister, Mr. L. K. Advani's statement during his recent : visit to Israel. Some of the points, ascribed to him, are seen as : having the potential of damaging the traditional friendly relations. : However, the situation has not acquired unmanageable proportions and : is capable of being sorted out through timely clarifications. : The current Indian goverment is composed Hindu fanatics that rose to : power on anti-Muslim platform and destruction of Babari Mosque. The : Hindu fanatic party BJP has clearly indicated in cooperating with : anti-Muslim forces around the world. : What has particularly caused concern is Mr. Advani's remark, favouring : nuclear cooperation with Israel. He made this observation in response : to a question by reporters, while talking of increasing cooperation : with Israel in all fields. He was asked whether it also covered the : nuclear issue, and he was quoted as saying: ``I would certainly favour : increasing cooperation with Israel in all fields including this one : (nuclear)''. : The reports of what Mr. Advani said on various occasions during his : stay in Israel were closely monitored by the media in the Arab : countries. A leading Egyptian daily, for instance, reproduced his : remarks, as carried in the Israeli press, adding a critical comment to : it. The Arab diplomats here too do not hide their unhappiness. : By and large, Mr. Advani focussed on the problem created by terrorist : violence in Jammu and Kashmir systematically engineered by Pakistan. : The visit was intended to study Israel's border management techniques : and to draw upon Tel Aviv's experience to bolster measures for : tackling Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. At one stage - after his visit : to Israel's borders - Mr. Advani said: ``Indo-Pakistan border : management is a growing challenge India is facing in the wake of : systematically-planned incursions by Pakistan. What we have seen and : understood (here) would help us strengthen India's security.'' : There is nothing wrong in India learning from the experience of : others, Israel not excluded: on the other hand, it is absolutely : necessary because of the growing magnitude of the problem over the : years. Complications arise because of the lack of restraint by the : politicians in their public utterances. In this case, Mr. Advani's : comments revolving round Israeli experience and India's challenge, : tended to establish - in the Arab minds - a parallel between the : hostile activities of Pakistan in relation to India and the situation : faced by Israel on its borders because of the challenge posed by its : Arab neighbours. : This leads to the theory of parity of hostile neighbourhood of India : and Israel - a parallel that is resented by the Arab countries. Such : an impression - undoubtedly harmful to India's ties with the Arab : countries - could be dispelled through suitable explanations that the : study of the technical methods of others was seen as a value judgment : on the situations faced by them. : There is a case for increased appreciation by the Arab world of : India's predicament - created by the low-intensity conflict, foisted : on it by Pakistan. If that happens, New Delhi's search for improved : management techniques would not seem ominous. As for the talk of : ``nuclear cooperation'' with Israel, there is a case for categorical, : prompt clarification to prevent misunderstandings. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The smoking gun to life on Mars?
Cosmic Comentary - http://members.tripod.com/~CosmicRose/CCC.html Posted By: Ski42 Date: Wednesday, June 21 2000, at 1:48 p.m. While some waste time debating microbe presence in a meteorite, here's the real SMOKING GUN as to life on Mars. View it at "http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/images/M0400291.html" or click below. This anomaly was recently discovered in a batch of some 27,500 new images Malin suddenly dumped on the Web as a result of a pressure campaign following recent NASA/JPL negative revelations. It is enigmatic in the extreme and of high strangeness. But, it is the official NASA/JPL Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) image posted by Malin who designed and operates the onboard camera systems as well as receives and processes the image data, so authenticity is unquestionable. At the above link, note that the anomaly is actually down inside the great crack in the lower left of the "MOC narrow-angle image M04-00291" strip. Click on the second box below the image strip titled "View full-size image, processed, in sinusoidal projection..." which will produce the full size image. Since it is full size and best quality, it will be slow to load, so be patient. Once loaded, scroll all the way down to the bottom and the anomalous structures will instantly standout. They are large and can't be missed. Note that there are actually multiple anomalous structures here. Most are very large but another there just visible is also smaller. Note that these structures are actually in excellent condition where other antiquity anomalies on Mars are heavily eroded allowing endless debate as to what they truely are, natural or constructs. Note their general uniformity and the uniform spacing of the bands or ridges. Note how one structure here clearly attaches to another and note the shiny round terminating end at the junction point clearly defining it as a constructed hard object as opposed to a natural geological formation of some kind. Note how at least one or more bands/ridges span around both structures tying them together at the junction point clearly demonstrating construction technique. Note the apparent translucent composition of these structures and how entirely alien they clearly are to the geology and topography they are embeded in. There can be no question that these are constructs of some kind. But, made by what or who and for what purpose? Now, search around in the topography in the regions of the image strip above the main anomaly. Pay close attention to other minor crack areas. Look closely and you will see the tips of what appear to be several more of these same structure's tops just barely visible in the soil surface. Clearly, this broad area is networked with these things underground. Note that cracking is aligned with the structures just as the great crack is aligned with the more exposed main anomaly structures. In fact, this is so consistent that it appears that these structure's buried presence may have weakened the earth where they are located contributing to the cracking. By the way, this anomaly identifies and puts an end to the debate of what the anomaly labeled the "Combs" is that appeared in earlier released MGS images. The uniform lines in the "Combs" are no doubt the tops of the same bands/ridges of structures like those seen here just barely visible in the Martian top soil. This particular anomaly is the first most striking that comes from the new MGS data dump. There will no doubt be more to follow. Hoagland (Richard C.) appears to be the discoverer. Although he posted this find back on 6/7/2000 at his web site, it is tucked away sort of partially hidden among other less obvious finds and he's not bringing it to public attention in a very aggressive way at all considering the magnitude of this find's clear importance as to the question of life on Mars. It may be that he's just too busy with continuing research in this huge new data dump hoping to produce even more obvious discoveries. The general public needs to see this NOW. This anomaly is striking and it may even be a bit shocking to some because of its obvious speculative implications. The good thing for the visual media is that the image is so clear and obviously anomalous and so alien to the geology surrounding it that no experts are needed to tell the average viewer whether it is something they should consider anomalous or not. It speaks for itself as no expert ever could and no Mars image before it ever could including the "Face." The average viewer is going to move quickly from an anomalous awareness to asking who or what made that thing? And, that is the whole point. Now Hoagland's comments at his web site at "http://www.enterprisemission.com/samp5.htm" where portions of this same image are posted, identify this area as an ancient seabed. If it is an ancient seabed and if these structures are as ancient as that old seabed despite their obvious
[CTRL] [ENWL-eng] Deep Ecology: New Heaven New Earth Forum
From NEW HEAVEN NEW EARTH FORUM by Sherry Stultz [nhneforumfcu] Review of EXOPOLITICS By Alfred Webre http://www.universebooks.com REVIEW DIALOGUE: Why are we here? Why do we seem to be alone in a hostile universe? How can we prepare for contact with other life forms? Are the answers to these questions are held within the realm of science fiction? If you took the time to stop, feel the Earth spin, and begin to ponder the infinite universe outside of Earth, you may end up laying on your bed and gripping the sides breathlessly, like I have on those occasions where my human comprehension starts to fail me when I think about those things too much. The only thing is--- I really like to think about those questions, and so again and again I come back to this loneliness. Even as little girl, I instinctively knew that there was more life outside of what was on Earth. I used to look up at the night sky and wonder where the others are? No I wasn't sent to some strange New Age elementary school, this was after years of Vacation Bible School and Sunday School. I have never found that all things are unrelated and mutually exclusive, which is why many of the assertions made in EXOPOLITICS intrigued me. Author Alfred Webre makes the assertion that we are a part of highly organized universe, but due to our unfortunate propensity for violence we are in exile from other life forms. He weaves allegorical stories from the Bible to propose an idea that life here on Earth was planned (as per the creation theory), but something went awry in the process. We are not alone in hostile universe, but that we are alone in the hostile part of the universe is what Alfred contends. Not withstanding some rather extraordinary individuals, the bulk of the human species has operated under the 'eat or be eaten philosophy' for longer than any known periods of peacable habitation. It does make you wonder if we are the hostile part of the universe? But like many of us, Alfred can feel the paradigm shifting, and EXOPOLITICS encourages us to open our minds to the prospect of a universal society, as we slowly begin to reject a rather Darwinesque approach to life on Earth. Being a futurist, Alfred wants to plan ahead to a time in the distant future when the exile may be lifted. This is the crux of EXOPOLITICS. Whether you can accept the all the details behind this idea is where your mind will begin to whirl, and all for the best, since stimulating thoughts may be what brings us forward. I liked big picture though, because I do believe that when we conclude there is other life in the universe, it will be a defining moment for all of humanity. ** This dialogue between Sherry Stultz, moderator the of the NHNE Forum for a Common Understanding (www.nhne.com/database/dbforum.html) and Alfred Webre, author of EXOPOLITICS (Universebooks.com) ranges over some of the issues in a study of politics and government in a populated, organized Universe. NHNE Forum (Sherry Stultz): I guess I should mention I have had mixed training in life. I am a trained forest ecologist, also a certified science teacher, who taught astronomy for a few years, so exobiology is a great hobby of mine. My work as a freelance writer is varied, but the recent stuff would center on investigating unusual experiences and what is considered pseudo-science. But bigger than all of that I am an ardent student of human nature and history of human cultures. One of the greatest projects I have ever undertaken has been the Forum for a Common Understanding, which has been a mirror to myself and a great observatory of the human experience. I am explaining this briefly to you so you can appreciate the nature of my questions and also appreciate the fact that some assertions you make I find more than acceptable, but other people would find outrageous. It's all a facet of the human experience, and the perception we each have of our existence. I have not listed all the assertions that I find intriguing or acceptable, as a matter of brevity, but I think you should feel confident of one thing: your assertions, which incorporate a variety of ideologies, old and new, cannot be completely or wholly dismissed because of the 'thinking potential' of this book. What I mean by that is that there are ideas that set bells ringing and the bells will be different for each person. This is my opinion of course, based on my on- going study of human beings. The questions I have listed are indeed quite genuine. I carefully noted my reactions to certain statements as I read and reread the text. I noted what I perceived as noncomplementary ideas or areas where I was called to accept something as law and the law had no origin. I like specifics. It's not necessary for them to follow any well- known socially or scientific dogmas. It's simply that the references
[CTRL] (Fwd) The Hickman Report: Exopolitics on June 24 @ 10 ET
Author Alfred Webre his new eBook "Exopolitics - Episode One" will be Jim Hickman's guest on the Hickman Report, heard at 10 PM ET on Saturday June 24, on radio stations throughout North America. eBook: "Exopolitics: Episode One", a study of politics and government in the Universe, can be found at Exopolitics.com. Thank you. __ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Forum for ecology, politics consciousness.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Robofish
--- The Telegraph 6/8/2000 Lamprey is brains behind 'robofish' By David Derbyshire, Science Correspondent IT may bear little resemblance to Arnold Schwarzenegger's Terminator but, according to its inventors, a newly created part-fish, part-machine is one of the world's most advanced cyborgs. The creature has a mechanical body fitted with wheels, motors, circuit boards and light sensors but is controlled by the brain of a sea lamprey. Although the robot contains only a few nerve cells from the eel-like fish, it has learned to follow or avoid lights. Robotics experts are convinced that it marks an important step towards a new type of biological robot. The research could pave the way for artificial limbs or other body parts connected to the user's brain. The fish-robot is the creation of a team led by Dr Ferdinando Mussa-Ivaldi, from Northwestern University in Chicago. They removed the brain stem and part of the spinal cord from a primitive salt water fish under general anaesthetic and kept it alive in a cold, salty solution, New Scientist reports today. The team then isolated a group of large nerve cells called Muller cells. These help lampreys to orientate themselves in water. Electrodes attached to the neurons allowed them to be stimulated with frequencies they would normally receive in the fish's body. When lights were flashed at the robot, the lamprey brain cells learned how to control the motors. The cyborg was able to follow and dodge a moving light source and move in a circle. Researchers were confident that there could be medical benefits. Dr Mussa-Ivaldi said: "We will be able to build better prosthetic limbs for disabled people." Until now, the fish's biggest claim to fame was Henry I who was killed by a surfeit of lampreys in 1135. -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] soon it will be a crime to look
The government can now dictate morality. Thou shalt not covet was a religius law...now it is a state defined law of existence. John FYI one sex based difference is that women have wider peripheral vision than me and hence can evaluate possibilities without the stare. The Telegraph 6/8/2000 EC plans equality law that puts women first By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels UK News: Men 'skive off' the most, say working women THE European Commission yesterday proposed a gender equality law allowing "positive action" to promote women ahead of men at work. The new code, which amends the EU's equal treatment directive, says women should have "automatic priority" in jobs where they are "under-represented", except in cases such as the Royal Marines, where male predominance is justified. The law will also make it easier for women to win sexual harassment cases in court by reversing the burden of proof. The onus will be on men to prove their innocence when accused of "unwelcome physical, verbal or non-verbal conduct". The definition of sexual harassment covers anything that affects the "dignity of women" and includes staring lasciviously, making sexist comments and talking about a woman's figure. Anna Diamantopoulou, the Greek social affairs commissioner, said that a man accused of such misconduct "would have to prove that he was not guilty", but she stressed that the plaintiff would have to produce "clear-cut proof" to begin the complaint in the first place. A commission study found that a fifth of British women claimed to have been subjected to "unsolicited physical contact", and 30 per cent complained of being "looked up and down obviously". --- This is a message from the Upstream mailing list. Visit the Upstream Website at http://cycad.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/ Visit the Upstream Mailing List archives at http://cycad.com/upstream-list-archive To subscribe to this list send email to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with just the subject subscribe To unsubscribe from this list send email to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with just the subject unsubscribe A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] feminism---will men be able to sue
Sunday Times--London June 11 2000 FOCUS Quick, discreet DNA tests to establish paternity have become a boom industry. A swab inside the cheek can resolve doubts that have lingered for years. All too often, however, the results bring heartbreaking news. Lois Rogers reports Who's your Daddy? The news that his little blond son Rauli had cystic fibrosis came as a devastating blow to Morgan Wise, a Texan railway engineer. He was eager to help when doctors asked him to undergo a genetic test to determine the origins of the boy's illness. Wise's results, however, came back negative. Both parents must have the gene for a child to contract the disease, and tests showed Wise was not a carrier of cystic fibrosis. To his astonishment, Wise was told this meant it was highly unlikely he was Rauli's biological father. Already separated from the mother of his four children, Wise, tempted by the paternity testing clinic offer of a cut-price DNA test deal, underwent genetic analysis to establish whether he was the father of Rawli and his other three children. It was a decision that would change his life. The results revealed that only his daughter, the eldest child conceived during his 13-year marriage, was fathered by him. The three boys were not his sons. "I can't begin to describe how I felt," said Wise, 38. "It was like experiencing a sudden death. I could not believe she had deceived me so completely, and for so long. I just fell apart. "How a mother can do this to her marriage, her husband, her children, and live a lie, I don't understand." Wise, who says he still regards himself as the boys' father, is now locked in a destructive legal battle with his former wife. He is arguing he will help support the children, but not through her. Three weeks ago, Texan courts ruled he should have no access to the children until the maintenance dispute is settled. The boys he believed to be his sons are among thousands of innocent victims of the growth in the DNA testing industry. In both Britain and America, suspicious men can now take advantage of laboratories offering quick and easy proof of paternity. Genetic relationships can be established using a home testing kit available over the internet. All it requires is a swab sample of cells from the inside of the cheek of both father and child, which can then be posted off to a laboratory. The results are delivered within five days, no questions asked. More than 250,000 tests a year are now conducted in America, and about 15,000 in Britain. Some of the testing is done to settle legal disputes about child maintenance between unmarried couples, or to answer questions on rights to inheritance. Many of the customers, however, are married men who are suspicious. All too often, the results bring shocking and unwelcome news: roughly 30% of men taking the tests discover that they are not the fathers of the children they regarded as their own. In the wider community, social scientists say up to 1 in 20 children are not the offspring of the man who believes himself to be their father. Caroline Caskey's Houston-based company Identigene, which offers DNA test kits, processes 250 cases a week, and averages one a month from British clients who have contacted the firm over the internet. "These secrets don't keep," said Caskey. Allan Gelb, who describes himself as an immuno-haematologist, though not a doctor, runs a bustling genetic testing service from his office in New York City. "I am doing a great deal of business with the UK," he said. "I should think we have had 40 to 50 people in the past two years." DNA tests have made Gelb into something of a television celebrity. Bearded and bespectacled, he makes regular television appearances on talk shows giving people their test results. The more devastating the news, the better the ratings. One show recently featured a married couple who were told by Gelb, live on air, that their tests revealed they were brother and sister. Family split: Wise found he was not the father of his 'sons' IN BRITAIN, on-air DNA test results may not yet be the stuff of Kilroy, but scientists have been swift to capitalise on the paternity-testing business. There are seven government-approved laboratories offering the service. About 70% of the business currently comes through the courts from the Child Support Agency (CSA) trying to track errant fathers to pay maintenance for their children. However, private demand is growing as more people become aware of the service. People who have lived their lives with a nagging doubt, agonising over their parentage or their progeny, are opting to take the plunge. Customers receive full counselling - they are asked how they will react if the result is not what they had hoped for, and warned they cannot "unknow" it. John Burn, professor of clinical genetics at Newcastle University, set up North Gene to provide private paternity testing at £450 per family. Profits are ploughed back into the university.
[CTRL] Rabin assasination
Rabin Assassination/Commentary: YOUR BROTHERS BLOODTHE FIFTH HONEST RABIN ASSASSINATION BOOK by Barry Chamish [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] MODIIN, Yom Rishon (Day OneSunday), 15 Sivan, 5760 (Gregorian Date: June 18, 2000) (Hijri Date: 15 Rabi Awal, 1421), Root Branch: Just a year ago, there was only one truthful book about the Rabin assassination, mine, entitled, Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin. Now there are five, listed at the end of this review. Michael Raz Steinkrycer, better known as just Michael Raz, is a former police investigator, whose book Your Brothers Blood traces the Rabin assassination back to 1924, when a religious leader named Dahan was murdered by the socialist Haganah for arranging a peace track with Arab religious leaders. Since then, anyone who challenged the authority of the Bolshevist founders became a candidate for murder by the enforcement arm of the Labor Zionists, the Shabak. Razs book has precisely the same theme as David Morrisons Lies: The Rabin Assassination and the Israeli Secret Service and covers some of the same ground; i.e. Bus 300, the false arrests of 17 soldiers in 1994 for allegedly stealing army weapons to be used by a non-existent right wing underground. However, Your Brothers Blood enters realms where Morrison feared to tread, such as the wrongful imprisonment of Amos Baranes to cover up for a Shabak officers murder of the soldier Rachel Heller, the corrupt dominance of Yossi Ginosar and his perjury which led to the long incarceration of a Druze army officer Izat Nafso, and the ugly suppression of Rabbi Uzi Meshulum and his congregation who dared to expose the kidnappings of thousands of, mostly Yemenite, infants in the early days of the state. Razs approach is invaluable to understanding how the mechanism of the Rabin murder coverup works. Take the Baranes case. Though it was obvious that Rachel Hellers boyfriend, a Shabak agent named Bichovsky, was the murderer, a stooge was set up to take the fall. None of this could have happened without the approval and authorization of State Attorney General Meir Shamgar, who was later called on by the Shabak to cover up, first the truth of the Hebron massacre and turn Baruch Goldstein into the fall guy and then the Rabin assassination, this time making Yigal Amir the victim for another Shabak murder. Like Morrison, Raz relies heavily on documentation supplied to him by me and Natan Gefen but comes up with some powerful new evidence as well. Here are a few examples of how each Rabin book injects vital new information into the investigation. First, Raz finally sheds light on the mystery man of the murder operation, Yekhezkiel Khezi Kalo. While it is universally known that Shabak provocateurs Avishai Raviv and Yigal Amir were employed by the Jewish Department based in Hebron, the chain of command is still fuzzy. Their immediate superior was Eli Barak, head of this department, and we know lots about him. He is a wife swapper, stalker, drunk driver, wife beater and liar. In his most publicized act of debauchery, he stalked the reporter Carmela Menashe. One of his group of wife swappers in the suburban town of Kochav Yair was murdered in New York at the same time Barak was visiting there. After smashing his car while drunk, Barak lied to the police and testified that his passenger was behind the wheel. All in all, we have a picture of a violent misfit, just the type of personality who would murder for peace. But, of Kalo, we knew next to nothing until the publication of the Raz book. We knew he was head of the Non-Arab Anti-Subversive Department of the Shabak and that he was Eli Baraks superior officer. How this department differs from Baraks is still covered in mystery. A year and a half ago, a terrified Kalo went public and in radio interviews and an infamous newspaper article, claimed he didnt know Avishai Raviv and was separated from him by eight officers in the Shabaks chain of command. Being kind, the approach didnt wash. No matter how many underlings dealt with Raviv on a continuing basis, he was their commander. Now look what Raz reveals about Eli Barak. He is not merely religious, but a graduate of a Bnei Akiva yeshivah, the very organization which supplies Judea and Samaria with many, if not most, of its Jewish residents. In fact, the principal of Kalos yeshivah was the fiery Knesset member, Rabbi Ba-Gad. So far, Kalo is merely a betrayer of his community. But let the following fact sink in deep. While Yigal Amir was in Riga, Latvia receiving Shabak training in 1992, Kalo was the Shabak officer in charge of security for the region!!! It sure looks like he was in on the Amir recruitment and subsequent exploitation from the very first day. Then there is the dilemma of Health Minister Dr. Ephraim Sneh. In one of the most damning incidents of the murder, Sneh, then Health Minister, announced Rabins murder on television truthfully, saying, He was shot three times; in the
[CTRL] Mighty Cyberengines Spew Health Myths
prefer to use the term fallacies myself rather than myth. John Mighty Cyberengines Spew Health Myths By JANE E. BRODY NYT, 0.5.30 When my sons were in the first grade, a rumor circulated through New York City elementary schools that cockroaches often contaminated canned tuna. Though the boys liked other fish, including sardines, they refused to eat canned tuna in any form and still avoid it more than 20 years later. Like alligators living in the sewer, many urban myths assume a life of their own despite a total lack of supporting evidence. The alligator myth is more a source of amusement than a problem for anyone, since very few of us venture into sewers. But when myths involve health issues, they can result in needless anxiety, avoidance behavior and inconvenience. In years past, these unsubstantiated rumors about health hazards lurking in our midst spread relatively slowly from person to person by word of mouth, unless some radio or television program happened to give them national airing. Now there is a new rapid-fire means of transmitting misinformation nationwide, even worldwide, via e-mail and the Internet. And since these communications appear in writing, rumors about health hazards floating around cyberspace seem to acquire an undeserved validity that makes them more likely to be believed than any oral warning. Of course, not everyone is equally gullible. Still, some people react with fear, even panic, when a cybermyth about health appears on their computer screens. Several of these "urban health myths" are exposed for what little they are worth in the May issue of Mayo Clinic Women's HealthSource, a newsletter published by the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. I have added one of my own, on aluminum, that predates cyberspace but refuses to die. MYTH: Cooking in aluminum pots causes Alzheimer's disease. The sick brain cells of people with Alzheimer's disease have been found to contain high amounts of aluminum. This prompted people to point a guilty finger at aluminum pots and pans as a source of this element that they believe damage brain cells, resulting in senility. Countless people tossed out all their aluminum cookware, replacing it with stainless steel and enameled cast iron. But what those who panicked failed to realize is that sick cells tend to accumulate toxic metals because they are unable to eliminate them. Despite numerous investigations, there is no scientifically reliable evidence that aluminum is the cause, rather than the result, of a diseased brain. MYTH: Antiperspirants cause breast cancer. A persistent Internet myth is that since antiperspirants block sweat glands, those in the underarm are unable to eliminate toxic substances, sending them instead into nearby lymph nodes, where they cause genetic mutations that result in cancer. First, sweat glands do not eliminate toxins and are not connected to the lymph system. Rather, toxins are processed through the liver and kidneys. Second, breast cancer does not arise in lymph nodes. It may spread to underarm nodes, but it starts within the breast tissue, usually in milk ducts. Third, there is no evidence linking breast cancer to not sweating. Fourth, no ingredient in antiperspirants is known to cause cancer. Finally, among countless studies of risk factors associated with breast cancer, not one has pointed to antiperspirants as a remotely possible cause. MYTH: Costa Rican bananas carry flesh-eating bacteria. Whenever a frightening, mysterious illness gains widespread attention, myths tend to abound as to its source. Hence the myth that touching the skin of bananas grown in Costa Rica can expose a person to the bacteria that cause necrotizing fasciitis, a potentially deadly disease caused by bacteria that attack the flesh in science-fiction fashion. Necrotizing fasciitis is caused by various bacteria, including Group A streptococcus that is found on people's skin and in their throats. It is transmitted from through saliva or mucus or through sores on the skin to another person who broken skin. The bacteria cannot infect intact skin. Nor are they carried on bananas. MYTH: Aspartame causes . . . you-name-it. According to the Mayo Clinic, one woman is the source of the belief that the artificial sweetener aspartame causes everything from obesity to manic depression to multiple sclerosis. The woman maintains that the Food and Drug Administration, in cahoots with commercial interests, has suppressed evidence of aspartame's risks and that all the studies indicating its safety are tainted because they have been financed by the company that produces it. One study
[CTRL] Music on the Brain
I used to have voices in my head telling me I was the reincarnation of Napoleonbut I changed psychiatrist and now I hear 1812 overture instead. John Music on the Brain TIME, 0.6.5 Experts still don't know how and why tunes tickle our fancy--but new research offers intriguing clues BY MICHAEL D. LEMONICK It's hard to exaggerate the effect music can have on the human brain. A mere snippet of song from the past can trigger memories as vivid as anything Proust experienced from the aroma of his petite madeleine. A tune can induce emotions ranging from unabashed joy to deep sorrow and can drive listeners into states of patriotic fervor or religious frenzy--to say nothing of its legendary ability to soothe the savage beast. Yet in spite of music's remarkable influence on the human psyche, scientists have spent little time attempting to understand why it possesses such potency. "We tend to think of music as an art or a cultural attribute," notes Robert Zatorre, a neuroscientist at McGill University in Montreal, "but it is a complex human behavior that is as worthy of scientific study as any other." That's why Zatorre helped organize a conference, "The Biological Foundations of Music," sponsored last week by the New York Academy of Sciences, at which experts in disciplines ranging from neuroscience and neurology to brain imaging and psychology met to exchange notes about what's known--and, more important, what remains to be learned--in this small but growing field. What seems clear is that the ability to experience and react to music is deeply embedded in the biology of the nervous system. While music tends to be processed mostly in the right hemisphere of the brain, no single set of cells is devoted to the task. Different networks of neurons are activated, depending on whether a person is listening to music or playing an instrument, and whether or not the music involves lyrics. Specific brain disorders can affect the perception of music in very specific ways. Experiments done on epileptics decades ago showed that stimulating certain areas of the temporal lobe on both sides of the brain awakened "musical memories"--vivid re-creations of melodies that the patients had heard years earlier. Lesions in the temporal lobe can result in so-called musicogenic epilepsy, an extremely rare form of the disorder in which seizures are triggered by the sound of music. Autism offers an even greater puzzle. People with this condition are mentally deficient, yet most are proficient musicians; some are "musical savants" possessed of extraordinary talent. The opposite is true of the less than 1% of the population who suffer from amusia, or true tone deafness. They literally cannot recognize a melody, let alone tell two of them apart, and they are incapable of repeating a song (although they think they are doing it correctly). Even simple, familiar tunes such as Frere Jacques and Happy Birthday are mystifying to amusics, but when the lyrics are spoken rather than sung, amusics are able to recognize the song immediately. "This goes way beyond an inability to carry a tune," observes psychologist Isabelle Peretz of the University of Montreal. "They can't dance, and they can't tell the difference between consonance [harmony] and dissonance either. They all appear to have been born without the wiring necessary to process music." Intriguingly, people with amusia show no overt signs of brain damage or short-term-memory impairment, and magnetic-resonance-imaging scans of their brains look normal. There is evidently no way to help these unfortunate folks (though, admittedly, they don't know what they're missing). But for instrumentalists, at least, music can evidently trigger physical changes in the brain's wiring. By measuring faint magnetic fields emitted by the brains of professional musicians, a team led by Christo Pantev of the University of Muenster's Institute of Experimental Audiology in Germany has shown that intensive practice of an instrument leads to discernible enlargement of parts of the cerebral cortex, the layer of gray matter most closely associated with higher brain function. As for music's emotional impact, there is some indication that music can affect levels of various hormones, including cortisol (involved in arousal and stress), testosterone (aggression and arousal) and oxytocin (nurturing behavior) as well as trigger release of the natural opiates known as endorphins. Using PET scanners, Zatorre has shown that the parts of the brain involved in processing emotion seem to light up with activity when a subject hears music. As tantalizing as these bits of research are, they barely begin to address the mysteries of music and the brain, including the deepest question of all: Why do we appreciate music? Did our musical ancestors have an evolutionary edge over their tin-eared fellows? Or is music, as M.I.T. neuroscientist Steven Pinker asserts, just "auditory cheesecake," with no biological value? Given
[CTRL] Fw: pharmacogenomics
As a means of control(plus potential testing of IQ, personality bias, cancer tendenies, mental illness) the potential is enormous. John Jun 6, 2000 - 06:33 AM HEALTHBEAT: New Science to Help Patients Get Safest Drugs for Their Genes By Lauran Neergaard The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Doctors accused her of being a hypochondriac: The woman suffered dizziness and a racing heartbeat from each antidepressant she tried, even though she was taking doses normally far too low to cause side effects. The desperate woman finally saw Dr. Raymond Woosley, who scanned her DNA with a special "gene chip" and discovered she actually has a genetic quirk that makes her super-sensitive to certain medicines. She's lucky: Some people die while taking some of the world's most popular drugs - from antibiotics to heartburn remedies - all because no one knew their genes made them uniquely susceptible to devastating side effects. That's about to change. A new science called "pharmacogenomics" aims to curb the problem by replacing today's one-dose-fits-all culture with simple tests to help doctors customize prescriptions, picking the safest, most effective drug for each patient's DNA. Already, Woosley and colleagues are testing the new technology at Georgetown University Medical Center. Just swab the inside of a patient's cheek for a DNA sample, and run it over a tiny glass gene chip the size of a postage stamp. The chip detects an errant enzyme system called p450 that affects how safely people metabolize dozens of popular medicines. P450 testing is so successful that Woosley just launched an international registry, closely watched by the Food and Drug Administration, to investigate other gene variations that make some people collapse with a lethal irregular heartbeat after taking any of 50 common drugs. And some companies are poised to begin offering, possibly within the next year, the first direct-to-consumer pharmacogenomic testing. The idea: Instead of waiting for gene chips to reach your doctor's office, just send a cheek swab to a gene-testing laboratory to see if you're at risk from certain drugs, explains Josh Baker, president of PPGx Inc., one company hoping to offer consumer testing. Then give the test results to your doctor. "It's very clear this concept works," says Woosley, a clinical pharmacologist and heart specialist. New research to pinpoint who's at risk "is some of the most exciting stuff I've ever seen." Even the best medicines don't help everyone. Drugs are sold after they prove an effect on the average disease sufferer, not every individual. So there's little way to know who's wasting time on treatment that will fail, and who will suffer side effects. Some 2 million Americans are hospitalized annually for side effects, and 100,000 die. Pharmacogenomics aims to improve that. This is not your standard gene test. It doesn't reveal disease-causing gene mutations. Instead, tests hunt subtle genetic variations called polymorphisms that can determine reactions to medications. Take p450, the best-known family of drug-processing enzymes. An estimated 7 percent of Americans lack certain p450 enzymes, allowing some drugs to climb to toxic levels in their bodies. Other people's p450 enzymes work too fast, clearing a drug out of the bloodstream too fast for it to fight disease. P450 isn't the only concern. Leukemia specialists are starting to test patients for another enzyme deficiency that makes the standard dose of a children's leukemia therapy called mercaptopurine far too high for their bodies. Also, 50 common drugs occasionally cause a lethal irregular heartbeat. Patients' hearts first exhibit a rhythm change called "long QT interval" before going into the arrhythmia with the unwieldy name "torsades de points." Some genes can spur this problem by making drugs 10 times more potent at blocking heart relaxation channels, Woosley said. His lab just launched an international effort to research survivors and create gene chips to test patients for the risk before they take a new drug. Doctors, or torsades survivors, can check http://www.qtdrugs.org to participate. Gene chips will take several more years to hit the market. But PPGx and other labs today can find gene-drug interactions through standard, cheap gene-test methods - they already provide p450 and other enzyme tests for drug manufacturers. Consumers very soon will demand such tests, too, Baker predicts. "If they shouldn't take a drug, they should know. I know I would want to know." - EDITOR'S NOTE - Lauran Neergaard covers health and medical issues for The Associated Press in Washington. AP-ES-06-06-00 0612EDT © Copyright 2000 Associated Press. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
SkeptiNews 000622c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/21_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No neutrinos were sexually abused during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Oblique Strategies: http://crystal.palace.net/~llama/oblique/oblique.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Satan' worship in Mizoram worries church. AIZAWL, India. In the dark of night a mixed group of high schoolers huddle in a cemetery, holding hands chanting invocations to Satan. The "worshippers" soon fall into trance; one after another slash their wrists in a ritual offering of blood to the fallen angel. www.indiaserver.com/thehindu/2000/06/19/stories/0219000r.htm # SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL. Death-worshipping church or apocalyptic prophets? The Process Church of the Final Judgement - Accused of being a "black- caped, black-garbed, death-worshipping church" with ranks of mindless "hooded snuffoids," they believed they were visionaries warning of the coming apocalypse. http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/134/process.html # Watch for Ed Gein's gravestone to show up on eBay. The Wisconsin serial killer who inspired "Psycho" is in the news again as thieves grabbed his grave marker and ran. "There are people who would pay big bucks for that," says the sheriff. http://jsonline.com/news/state/jun00/gein20061900a.asp : What's your favorite satanic ritual? D'ya prefer to worship death masked as eternal life; or death straight; or life masked as eternal death; or life straight? D'ya pay a lot for paraphernalia of worship? Is it cost-effective? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RESTORING THE PATH OF FAITH: This month, Coptic Christians in Egypt are celebrating the 2000th anniversary of the Holy Family's travel thru Egypt. In preparation for the thousands of pious pilgrims who'll come to retrace their path, the Egyptian Heritage Revival Association is pouring millions of Egyptian Pounds into the restoration of tombs, icons, altars... and the installation of restrooms. http://www.egypttoday.com/feat01.htm # Oldest Temple in Egypt: Tell Ibrahim Awad Reveals Temple Upon Temple.Under the rich rubble of a Middle Kingdom temple are ruins of the oldest-known temple in Egypt at Tell Ibrahim Awad in the east Nile Delta. Traces of 5 temples, the earliest dating to 3200 B.C., underlie a 4,000-year old Mid- dle Kingdom temple. http://www.egyptrevealed.com/051500-telibrahim.shtml # Court Bars Sex-Change Dancer From School. CAIRO (Reuters) A Cairo court ruled on Wednesday that a belly-dancer who was once a man may not pursue her medical studies at Egypt's one thousand-year-old al-Azhar Islamic university. Oy. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000622/07/odd-dancer-dc : What're y'r favorite old Egyptian tradition/heritage/ritual/site? Do these interfere with others? Are there natural conflicts among points of heritage? Is any heritage worth more than others? How can you tell - tourist counts?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Heavenly Light: Lasers blaze new path for studying stars in lab. Seems odd to find astronomers working in windowless labs, but that's where some of the best new views are. Instead of gazing at exploding stars,giant planets interstellar blast waves, scientists now replicate such phenomena in the lab. Supernova in a bottle: http://alienzoo.com/news/e/26210007.cfm # Deep focus: neutrino mystery. An observatory sited deep in a Canadian mine could solve a mystery about the nuclear processes going on inside the Sun. Softly: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_799000/799067.stm # Space Weather Predictions Just Got Easier. The arrival from the Sun of billion-ton electrified-gas clouds causing severe space storms can now be predicted to within a half-day, a great improvement over the best previous estimates of two to five days. http://www.cosmiverse.com/space062104.html : What's your favorite form of cosmic radiation? Have'ya intercepted/created /manipulated/obliterated any cosmic rays lately? Do you prefer cosmic/solar storms that are real, simulated, imitation, virtual, miniature, frothy? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Robots in the 21st Century. Where are they? Despite the arrival of year 2000, some folks are disappointed that robots aren't everywhere. After all, isn't that what futurists promised? In reality, robots are around more than many people think. Most simply haven't noticed yet. Mechanical beings are playing soccer, fetching the newspaper, and keeping people company at home. http://www.bergen.com/biz/robot1926192.htm # ET Rover Produces Power. Scientists think they've found a way to generate power from robotic devices placed on the moon other planets. Making its way
[CTRL] Rogue State
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Monaco is a rogue state, says France
By John Lichfield in Paris
22 June 2000
Monaco is a rogue state that connives in laundering drug and mafia money, under
French protection, a French parliamentary investigation concluded yesterday.
Although the accusation is not new, the severity of the language and the
official nature of the inquiry will be deeply embarrassing to the authorities
in Monaco and France.
The report accuses the tiny principality, surrounded by France and the
Mediterranean, of having no proper system of banking ethics, of allowing its
celebrated casino to run out of control and refusing all serious co-operation
with international efforts to control suspect flows of capital. Monaco is
"conducive to" and "complicit in" money laundering, the report said.
The parliamentary committee suggests France, which provides almost all senior
officials in Monaco, including the chief minister, is partly responsible for
this situation.
The committee calls on the French government to scrap all its fiscal and
judicial arrangements with the Mediterranean statelet, negotiated in 1963.
Monaco, which measures one mile long and a quarter of a mile wide, has 6,000
registered companies. Many are "managed by British citizens ... and set-up in
territories under British law, such as the Bahamas or the Cayman Islands", the
report says. Large sums pass in and out, and judicial authorities in Monaco
have no right to seek information.
The Monaco authorities refused to comment yesterday until they had studied the
report in detail. But the conclusions were accepted unanimously by left-of-
centre members of parliament. The neo-Gaullist RPR, the party founded by
President Jacques Chirac, rejected them, saying the report would "poison
diplomatic relations" between Monaco and France.
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[CTRL] Gotta New Flag
From http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcelroy/mcelroy13.html }}Begin The Bland Old Flag by Wendy McElroy I applaud the South Carolina legislature for voting to remove the Confederate flag from the Statehouse dome where it has flown for 38 years. There can be no question: the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery which no civilized society will tolerate. If I have a criticism of South Carolina, it is this: the legislature did not go far enough. It targeted only the battle flag of the Confederacy the familiar blue bars crisscrossing a red background which was a flag of convenience only. The First Official Flag of the Confederacy (1861-1863) is a more fitting symbol for protest. This flag called the Stars and Bars white and red bars with seven stars representing the original Confederate States receded into obscurity for pragmatic reasons. It was not sufficiently distinct from the Stars and Stripes to prevent confusion on the battlefield. Equally, the Bonnie Blue should be removed from sight. This flag a single star on a blue background, signifying the South united as one became the first unofficial symbol of the Confederacy. Of course, these flags and symbols signified slavery for four years only, during the War of Secession. A far more egregious symbol is the Stars and Stripes. On June 14, 1777, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved,that the flag of the thirteen United States be thirteen stripes alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation." It was this flag that flew during the infamous 3/5ths compromise within the Constitution by which a slave counted as 3/5ths of a human being for purposes of the political representation of Southern whites. Article IV Section 2, established the right of slave owners to pursue fugitive slaves, "No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due." The Stars and Stripes not only presided as slavery was cemented into the fabric of American government and society, it flew over that slave nation for almost a century. The Stars and Stripes symbolize an abomination that cannot be tolerated. It must be stripped from public buildings across the nation. Fortunately, the government has provided us with the correct procedure by which to dispose of erring flags. Section 4 (k) of the Federal Flag Code (Public Law 94-344) declares, "The flag, when...it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way preferably by burning." The American Legion also recommends disposing of a flag by burning it. I am indebted to the historian Joseph R. Stromberg for pointing out an obvious problem with my proposal. The United States clearly needs a flag now and then e.g. for the commencement of ball games, for NASA to plant should it ever land anywhere again. The Union Jack, which flapped over the thirteen colonies, would be a natural contender were it not for the fact that Britain was largely responsible for the worlds African slave trade to begin with. The rest of Europe offers few satisfactory substitutes. The Portuguese and Spanish jointly devastated much of the population of South America. The French are French. Germany...enough said. The Italians brutalized Ethiopia during World War II. Russia...enough said. And the who knows how much longer the nations of the former Soviet Union will survive. Only the Swiss, Finnish and Danes are left, and they seem determined to survive through maintaining a low-profile. The Far East is no better and African nations change too quickly. Australia began as a land of thugs, thieves and prostitutes. There are only three nations in the world that are both politically correct and likely to accept the honor of having their flag adopted by the United States: Iceland, Greenland and Canada. Of these three, the obvious choice is Canada my place of birth and residence because we are all Americans up here anyway. Indeed, some years ago, a major magazine ran a contest meant to capture the essence of being Canadian. The contestants were asked to complete the sentence "As Canadian as..." along the lines of "As American as apple pie." The winner was "As Canadian as possible under the circumstances." Canada has other obvious advantages. It never colonized or wiped out its Indian population. When Quebec threatens to secede, it holds a referendum, not a civil war. No one dislikes us; people even forget that Canadians served in Vietnam and remember instead our open border policy for draft dodgers. Indeed, spies around the world use fake Canadian passports to cross borders. Because Canada prides itself on being an ethnic mosaic, the flag will not offend minorities. Yet, since most Canadians are
[CTRL] Gary Graham Execution
June 22, 2000 If there's evidence that Gary Graham is innocent of his accusation and politics are (again) obstructing justice (miscarriage of justice); in a brief amount of time, perhaps hours left, we should remember this episode for further cases (and a revision of past executions), so that our future generations will remember what could have been avoided in the name of the U.S. Constitution itself. Many other deaths like this will follow. Imagine your son/daughter has been sentenced for a crime he/she didn't commit, and the media, politics, and other technicisms or factors can't allow the proper legal procedure. Sometimes, the truth is not revealed in the Courts of Justice. Please close your eyes and imagine Graham is not black; even if another man was executed yesterday (Florida), and was white. But we all know deep within, that this attitude can affect a verdict (especifically in a certain state or area). Many factors can affect a verdict. Trust me, they can be manipulated. No matter if you have religion or not (or what religion you belong, if any), our prayers and thoughts should be with this convict, because I think there's a missing part in this story. If Graham is innocent, I believe we should have no mercy with the people who know the truth. And... the missing part is the one that counts. As I don't judge people, especifically in cases like this, before and after his execution, all I need to say is may God bless his soul innocent or not. Mr. Graham, your burden will be relieved very, very soon. "We each owe a death. There are no exceptions. But Oh God, sometimes the green mile seems so long."- "The Green Mile" (Tom Hanks) http://www.foxnews.com/national/062200/tx_execution_debate.sml http://www.amnesty.org/ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
tenebroust said, I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. I couldn't agree more... However, shouldn't that be clarified further to include a more indepth definition...? For we all believe something, even if it is disbelief, because we all post articles, comments, and opinions, regularly. What I'm saying is, the definition here, that I'm *assuming* you are trying to get across, is that you do not want to see people attacked for their RELIGIOUS or SPIRITUAL BELIEFS? Correct me if I'm wrong in this... BUT, there is still a loophole; for all religious beliefs and tenents, if taken seriously, are a way of life for those people who do. It is not opinion or comment, but rather when they disagree, they would be contending for their beliefs. As a Christian, I am instructed to 'contend' for the faith... (Jude v3). To sit back and say nothing is worse, in my opinion, than attempting to expose, what I would believe, is a lie. To censor someone for their religious beliefs, and disallow them to comment, is like saying, it's okay for you to perfectly agree with the homosexuals agenda (using this strictly as a scenario), but because I may disagree because of my religious or spiritual beliefs. I am to say nothing??? Am I not allowed to contend for my beliefs, because it infringes on YOUR rights to believe a certain way, but not for me? With this I totally disagree. tenebroust also said, The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This is simply not true... Judah has wrongly taken the rap for those who "say" they are Jews (God's chosen) for hundreds of years... There is more than religiosity involved in this. You must calculate the number of the beast... The word calculate in the Greek means to 'ennumerate the smooth stones over a long period of time'. The only way to calculate this is to follow the bloodline and historical record. You can find easily in the Hebrews history of the Chronicles where there are those who came in as bedouines and took over the bookkeeping, the scribeship, and the priest duties... By Jesus' time, they were known as Pharisees, and continue today in various communities and cultural statures. THESE have also taken on the title "JEW" when they actually have no inheritance, heritage or bloodline to sustain their claim. These are those that are spoken of in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9... "those who say they are Jews, but are not..." Once you find out WHO these are, you can clearly see how, over the past, that Christians have mistaken and stereotyped these in with the true Jews and how the confusion has come around to the present day. True Jews of the tribe of Judah have been blamed for way too much evil and cataclysmic atrosities!!! If you want to blame someone for propagating this information, go to the priests, preachers and teachers... they are the ones who teach ignorantly and continue to keep the pot stirred and boiling. I suppose this is why it is taught in Ezekiel ch 34 that God will start his judgment in the pulpit, with the shepherds... People need to do their homework and find out just exactly WHO they are speaking of here... and quit believing lies and gossip. Jews of the tribe of Judah *ARE innocent* as charged. But tell me... how do you tell the tares from the wheat? While maturing, or coming of age, one cannot tell, and this is why the lessons were taught throughout the gospels to leave the tares alone. I have absolutely nothing against the true Jews of Judah... and am actually very sympathetic with their plight. But, it is written that there were those who came in and took their identity and claim to be Jews, but are not. THESE are those that we should be concerned about, and when the truth comes out in the end... I believe that you will find that even these false ones are the very ones who wrote the protocols... and started all the other ugliness regarding the Jews, so as they could develop a sympathy and blend in to absorb that sympathy they created. And yes, there is also blood on the Catholic Church's hands regarding some of this... but the blame cannot be placed completely there. They too, by utilizing certain religious tenents and by brainwashing have their congregation believing that their faith is the only one... it is also a door that revolves in continuum with the same song second verse. But they are also in error to make this claim. This is a subject (i.e. the Jews) that cannot be ignored or overlooked, because most people have been brainwashed either by religious tendencies or by cultural differences that go back generations. It is a subject that is not going to go away just because you want it to. eagle 1
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
The Christian Science Church in USA has long been attacked because of its religious beliefs re "faith healing" leading to a long string of convictions. These attacks come from the political-legal establishment and many other cults and religions have also been attacked by due process of law for their beliefs and practices. FWP On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Eagle 1 wrote: tenebroust said, I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. I couldn't agree more... However, shouldn't that be clarified further to include a more indepth definition...? For we all believe something, even if it is disbelief, because we all post articles, comments, and opinions, regularly. What I'm saying is, the definition here, that I'm *assuming* you are trying to get across, is that you do not want to see people attacked for their RELIGIOUS or SPIRITUAL BELIEFS? Correct me if I'm wrong in this... BUT, there is still a loophole; for all religious beliefs and tenents, if taken seriously, are a way of life for those people who do. It is not opinion or comment, but rather when they disagree, they would be contending for their beliefs. As a Christian, I am instructed to 'contend' for the faith... (Jude v3). To sit back and say nothing is worse, in my opinion, than attempting to expose, what I would believe, is a lie. To censor someone for their religious beliefs, and disallow them to comment, is like saying, it's okay for you to perfectly agree with the homosexuals agenda (using this strictly as a scenario), but because I may disagree because of my religious or spiritual beliefs. I am to say nothing??? Am I not allowed to contend for my beliefs, because it infringes on YOUR rights to believe a certain way, but not for me? With this I totally disagree. tenebroust also said, The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This is simply not true... Judah has wrongly taken the rap for those who "say" they are Jews (God's chosen) for hundreds of years... There is more than religiosity involved in this. You must calculate the number of the beast... The word calculate in the Greek means to 'ennumerate the smooth stones over a long period of time'. The only way to calculate this is to follow the bloodline and historical record. You can find easily in the Hebrews history of the Chronicles where there are those who came in as bedouines and took over the bookkeeping, the scribeship, and the priest duties... By Jesus' time, they were known as Pharisees, and continue today in various communities and cultural statures. THESE have also taken on the title "JEW" when they actually have no inheritance, heritage or bloodline to sustain their claim. These are those that are spoken of in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9... "those who say they are Jews, but are not..." Once you find out WHO these are, you can clearly see how, over the past, that Christians have mistaken and stereotyped these in with the true Jews and how the confusion has come around to the present day. True Jews of the tribe of Judah have been blamed for way too much evil and cataclysmic atrosities!!! If you want to blame someone for propagating this information, go to the priests, preachers and teachers... they are the ones who teach ignorantly and continue to keep the pot stirred and boiling. I suppose this is why it is taught in Ezekiel ch 34 that God will start his judgment in the pulpit, with the shepherds... People need to do their homework and find out just exactly WHO they are speaking of here... and quit believing lies and gossip. Jews of the tribe of Judah *ARE innocent* as charged. But tell me... how do you tell the tares from the wheat? While maturing, or coming of age, one cannot tell, and this is why the lessons were taught throughout the gospels to leave the tares alone. I have absolutely nothing against the true Jews of Judah... and am actually very sympathetic with their plight. But, it is written that there were those who came in and took their identity and claim to be Jews, but are not. THESE are those that we should be concerned about, and when the truth comes out in the end... I believe that you will find that even these false ones are the very ones who wrote the protocols... and started all the other ugliness regarding the Jews, so as they could develop a sympathy and blend in to absorb that sympathy they created. And yes, there is also blood on the Catholic Church's hands regarding some of this... but the blame cannot be placed completely there. They too, by utilizing certain religious tenents and by brainwashing have their congregation believing that their faith is the only
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
I really can't follow your "logic" here? It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns? She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to change her mind. (ggg) Leaving that deranged, pukesome, "former" drunkard "husband", supporter of totalitarian ideologies of hers, was maybe a step in the right direction, and may have taken considerable personal courage to do so. There appears to have been something in her personal life, that has certainly jarred her former status quo lifestyle - I wish her well, and hope she has chosen the right path. Who gives a crap about the mindless amalgam of "patriots" and the "far right" - both are essentially stooges of the Vatican (ggg) and the papa that dresses like mamma, and neither would have a clue as to what true Christianity is about - all just butt heads and beavis's. - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion? What's wrong with saying "sorry"? Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine? Dude, she already did her lil' mea culpa a decade ago...to the jeers of the far right...my point is that if her recent degradation...er, I mean conversion to hardcore Xianity makes her apology any more acceptable now than it was then...that's a weird standard...and the so-called "patriots" will have shown themselves to be a VERY fickle lot indeed. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
FWP, Well, I suppose it is just another political injustice and string of travesties that result from inability in this country to practice "religious freedom"... Though I disagree with the Christian Scientists after watching a lady lay in pain and die a slow death over about a 12 year period, because her husband would not take her to the doctor. It was a very sad situation. I remember my mom trying to reason with her husband to no avail, to take her to the doctor... he refused, she died. But he still believed. He has the right... to believe what he wants. He will deal with his final decision for the rest of his life and at judgment. Even Jesus said, that there are those in need of a physician... Luke 5:30-32 Luke was a physician, who became a disciple / Apostle. But, does that mean I only absorb words of faith for healing? OR do I use common sense and seek a physician, when I know that it's going to take more than faith for healing? Again, that is a personal belief. Personally, I would go to the doctor if I was sick or take someone, or take someone if they need one. God gave us a mind to 'think' with. He didn't give us ignorance, but rather intelligence to utilize common sense in judgment calls. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed The Christian Science Church in USA has long been attacked because of its religious beliefs re "faith healing" leading to a long string of convictions. These attacks come from the political-legal establishment and many other cults and religions have also been attacked by due process of law for their beliefs and practices. FWP . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Well Dr. Poley, the Christian Scientists are an intelligent lot. This bible crap makes me sick for let us consider who really wrote the words in the biblelike the part i I Kings where "pissing" on the wall is almost done in ritualistic manner. English was crude in those days and if Shakespear had a hand in writing the Song of Solomon and his cypher was left in the 46th psalm, we had a lot of hanky panky here. My family traces their tree directly to the bible - and we are part of the Grail Family and I have pedigree to prove it, but who the hell cares? An Ayatollah runing around with a black turban claiming direct descent from Mohammed? Was Mohammed ordained by God to rule, or did Allah even know this man? The hook up of the Assassins to the Knight Templars as they searched for gold and loot? Bible is a big family tree and geogrpahy book. What is a jew? I do not know, and I do not care. I am concerned about this lot who call themselves Zionists and from whom 3 or 4 Rabbis now want to disassociate before they are all murdered which is a part of "God's Plan". I had an ancestor help revise the bible in 1890 period, delegate to Clarendon Press and still have the souvenier bible, SS Teachers Edition. As I wrote once before, Benjamin Franklin wrote a few verses in the proverbs and printed in the bible and nobody even knew the different. The Bible is a Master Plan for Murder and it is timed to go off at the end of this Millenium. Now if God is alive and well, so is Satan and I will tell you this Satan does rule on this planet, and between Gore, Clinton, and Saddam Hussein and Kissinger and that low life Reno and Albright -= I will take Sadaam who rides a big whie horse, when he really wants to show off, for Sadaam is a real man- and he offered us cheap oil and was refused. Why are the Zionists out to control the domestic jews and arabs and put them is Israelie while they wait judgment day whrere the State of Israel is to be destroyed. Well this one Rabbi knows his stuff and said we can live under Arab rule and Arabs can live under so called Jewish rule for the arabs and jews in the holy land, are brothers. The Sons of the Prophets and the Sons of God are brother as are all the KIngs Men and Kings, brothers. I am so sick of this religoius crap - for this is master plan for murder and all things are ready. America first must be destroyed that is the white race, for hey will take no crap any more from wild blacks and latinos runung through streets raping and molesting women - and any lady would not have been in that crowd anyway. So this is face of America - ugly, dirty and a cess pool awaiting return of the King? Return of the King means forfeiture of Constitutional govrnment, does it not. Only Kings and Queens are ordained by God to rule and I can claim direct descent from many Kings and Queens and the Mormon Church claims my ancestors descended from Satan - the one man's meat, is another man's poison. But when you read that crap the Mormon Joseph Smith, a freemason wrote up, well - what did he say about Moroni - was he kidding? Now we have one religion fits all, one big rrace to fit all where laborers in vinyard with blackened skin will marry the fair blonde and bue eyed farmr's daughter Well never saw a black rose and hope I never do. Take that Old Testament and dump it - I am sick of men playing Moses and turning loose animals on civilized people. The Bible is a Master Plan for Murder and guess who wrote it? New Messiah on way? You got to be kidding - after what theydid to the old one, nailed to a cross and virtually a stake drivn through his side? Think he will return with love in his heart? Somebody killed my kid - fight fire with fire. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
In a message dated 6/22/00 7:50:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really can't follow your "logic" here? It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns? She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to change her mind. (ggg) Man, am I speaking Farsi here??? I never faulted her for taking the stand that she did and I actually like the fact that she had the stones to oppose the Vietnam war...my point is that she ALREADY made her amends and that the loony right scoffed at her...so are they now going to accept her apology since she's become a Son worshipper/Xian? THAT'S my question and it's REALLY NOT that difficult! Methinks there's a bit of hypocrisy on that end of the political spectrum and if "becoming born-again" is the thing that makes her apology hold water now with those who previously scoffed all I can do is LMFAO. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [HotelMcGillis] The Dubya Quiz
DURST: The George W Quiz Will Durst, AlterNet June 20, 2000 In an attempt to narrow his search for a running mate, George W Bush is sending out background questionnaires to prospects. Due to my string of incredibly well placed inside sources, I am now able to leak portions of that questionnaire directly to you, with no hidden obligation on your part. 1. The most important quality I would bring to a national ticket is: A. A fierce dedication to uphold the Constitution of the United States. B. The electoral vote guarantee of an important swing state. C. Respect and dignity. D. Money. Lots and lots and lots of money. 2. Which of these statements is truest? A. "Blood is thicker than oil." B. "Oil is thicker than water." C. "Blood is thicker than water." D. "Oil and blood have approximately the same viscosity, but oil is easier to use as leverage." 3. The investment of portions of social security in the stock market is: A. A good idea. B. A great idea. C. A great idea the public will come to trust after I've talked to them about it. D. The worst idea since oyster flavored popsicles. 4. Please spell potato. Singular and plural. 5. True or false. Hunting is better than golfing. 6. Did you ever know or work with or have as a good friend, Jack Kennedy? 7. Jeb Bush's children are: A. Black. B. Red. C. Brown. D. Short. 8. Complete this statement. Women: A. Should be seen barefoot and pregnant but not heard. B. Are best served with lemon butter and capers. C. Got to learn to relax for the inevitable. D. Deserve to be executed just like normal people. 9. As an impressionable youth, I experimented with: A. Pot. B. Coke. C. Acid. D. Campaign Finance Reform. Will Durst doubts anybody interesting could pass this test. FONT COLOR="#99"Want to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's? Or 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily? Go to Expedia.com for your chance to win... /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/5292/5/_/_/_/961722096/"BClick Here!/B/A To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
I prefer ancient Aramaic! () But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now a "convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists and the Far Right. Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the end, all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses" to complete "the plan" of this "group"? Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just like in a good movie script? (ggg) - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam In a message dated 6/22/00 7:50:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really can't follow your "logic" here? It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns? She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to change her mind. (ggg) Man, am I speaking Farsi here??? I never faulted her for taking the stand that she did and I actually like the fact that she had the stones to oppose the Vietnam war...my point is that she ALREADY made her amends and that the loony right scoffed at her...so are they now going to accept her apology since she's become a Son worshipper/Xian? THAT'S my question and it's REALLY NOT that difficult! Methinks there's a bit of hypocrisy on that end of the political spectrum and if "becoming born-again" is the thing that makes her apology hold water now with those who previously scoffed all I can do is LMFAO. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] URGENT: Hoffa Under Attack
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Dear Brigade, "And within the AFL-CIO, Hoffa isn't completely accepted. One top labor official says relations are still in tatters from an incident in April. At a mass union gathering in Washington to protest normal trade with China, Hoffa held a separate Teamsters rally, to the chagrin of AFL officials. He also appeared onstage with Reform Party candidate Patrick J. Buchanan, whose views often put him at odds with Big Labor's mostly liberal leaders." Brigade, we knew it wouldn't be long before the Establishment parties and the media would be going after James Hoffa. Well it's started. They are in high gear to find anything to discredit him and convince members of the Teamsters to throw him out of office. What was his crime? Standing up against the multi-national corporations and refusing to sell out American workers by endorsing the Gore-Bush ticket. Suggestion: Write a note to Jim Hoffa and thank him for putting America First. Tell him why you support Pat Buchanan and ask for his endorsement by the Teamsters. Note: Do not send an email, use U.S. Postal mail. The IBT website states: If you have a matter of importance that you would like addressed in an official manner you need to write a letter. All letters sent to the IBT will be responded to, however, we cannot guarantee all emails will be given the same consideration at this time. Here is the address: Mr. James P. Hoffa General President International Brotherhood of Teamsters Office of the General President 25 Louisiana Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20001 Brigade, please forward this to all on your e-lists and to your personal contacts. For the Cause, Linda Business Week -- June 26, 2000 HOFFA AT HALFTIME By Paula Dwyer in Washington The Teamsters are players again, but problems persist James P. Hoffa is almost a happy man. From his expansive office at the foot of Capitol Hill -- the same third-floor lair his legendary father occupied in the 1950s and '60s -- Hoffa can point to an impressive 15 months since becoming president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. Flight attendants at Northwest Airlines Corp. just ratified a new contract by an overwhelming 68%. Arbitrators have forced United Parcel Service Inc. to honor a pledge to hire 10,000 new workers. President Clinton is keeping the U.S. closed to Mexican trucks despite NAFTA's call to open the border as of Jan. 1, 2000. And on June 21, George W. Bush, like Vice-President Al Gore before him, will seek the union's endorsement. It's been a fast ride for Jim Hoffa. Just a few years ago, he was an obscure Detroit lawyer with a famous father. Today, he runs the largest union in the country. Pols are fawning, and employers say they can work with him. Even the union's finances are back in order after Hoffa's predecessor, Ron Carey, spent money like a drunken trucker with a winning Lottery ticket. ''There is a new excitement in the union right now,'' declares Hoffa, 59. ''Any outside observer can see that this union is moving ahead.'' Victor S. Kamber, a longtime union public-relations consultant, concurs: ''People like him. When he speaks, people listen. I'd bet my money on him.'' But while Hoffa successfully played the outside agitator to win the Teamster presidency, he has only 16 months left to persuade the 1.5 million rank-and-file members to reelect him as president. And despite the hosannas from union headquarters, all is not well in the House of Hoffa. The most recent disappointment was permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) for China. Along with the United Auto Workers, the Teamsters tried mightily to prevent House Democrats from joining with President Clinton and the GOP in extending normal trade status to Beijing -- and failed. CASH-STRAPPED. Also gnawing at Hoffa is his inability to rid the Teamsters of federal supervision. Since 1989, the Justice Dept. has monitored the union's every move through a trusteeship that has cost the union $ 88 million. Hoffa had hoped to convince the Clinton Administration that the union is mob-free -- and that it's time to end the oversight. But as the White House has made clear, that won't happen anytime soon. Hoffa likes to boast that he has balanced the union's budget after years of profligate spending and a campaign-finance scandal by predecessor Carey, but the union is barely covering its costs. One reason, say Hoffa critics, is head-office salaries and other expenses. While Carey drew a salary of $ 150,000, Hoffa gets paid $ 225,000. Hoffa says that is the maximum under the union's constitution -- and the same salary his father received in the '60s. There are other complaints. While Carey all but ended the practice of letting local and regional Teamster officials take two and three salaries at a time, double-dipping has returned under Hoffa. A 1999 annual report to the Labor Dept. showed that 23 officers on the headquarters
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Aleisha Saba said, Take that Old Testament and dump it Take the Old Testament and dump it? huh? What? And keep only the new? The new cannot be accepted without the tenents of the old... It simply won't hold water... Then there is no will and there is no testament if you dump the old... But THAT is exactly what this latter generation has done... tried to do away with the old and simply live off the new, claiming that the law has been done away with... etc., etc., etc., (yada yada yada...) and we now have a lawless generation, who just does what it pleases because they have totally misunderstood the whole plan from it's beginnings to it's ends. Who is to blame? Jesus said it best when he confronted the Pharisees, "[You are] making the Word of God of none effect through your traditions, which ye have delivered and many such like things do ye." ~Mark 7:13 And the traditions have continued as the truth has been suppressed in the process. Jesus taught that the New World Order was coming and those living in that generation when the time came would suffer through it. He also taught us how to fair during that time. He never said that no one would be killed or that people would escape ... As a matter of fact, even John the Baptist warned... Matt: 3:7 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, "O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?" Matt. 3:8 "Bring forth fruits meet for repentance:" You have to know who those who say they are Jews but are not are... if you don't ... you will continue to blame God and blame Jews for things that have absolutely nothing to do with his will or his testament, or the overall plan. Sounds like you've been brainwashed by the political media agenda. And so be it. You choose to believe what you choose to believe. And so do I choose to believe as I do. However, jftr, I am not here to convince you to believe as I do or otherwise. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Well Dr. Poley, the Christian Scientists are an intelligent lot. This bible crap makes me sick for let us consider who really wrote the words in the biblelike the part i I Kings where "pissing" on the wall is almost done in ritualistic manner. English was crude in those days and if Shakespear had a hand in writing the Song of Solomon and his cypher was left in the 46th psalm, we had a lot of hanky panky here. My family traces their tree directly to the bible - and we are part of the Grail Family and I have pedigree to prove it, but who the hell cares? An Ayatollah runing around with a black turban claiming direct descent from Mohammed? Was Mohammed ordained by God to rule, or did Allah even know this man? The hook up of the Assassins to the Knight Templars as they searched for gold and loot? Bible is a big family tree and geogrpahy book. What is a jew? I do not know, and I do not care. I am concerned about this lot who call themselves Zionists and from whom 3 or 4 Rabbis now want to disassociate before they are all murdered which is a part of "God's Plan". I had an ancestor help revise the bible in 1890 period, delegate to Clarendon Press and still have the souvenier bible, SS Teachers Edition. As I wrote once before, Benjamin Franklin wrote a few verses in the proverbs and printed in the bible and nobody even knew the different. The Bible is a Master Plan for Murder and it is timed to go off at the end of this Millenium. Now if God is alive and well, so is Satan and I will tell you this Satan does rule on this planet, and between Gore, Clinton, and Saddam Hussein and Kissinger and that low life Reno and Albright -= I will take Sadaam who rides a big whie horse, when he really wants to show off, for Sadaam is a real man- and he offered us cheap oil and was refused. Why are the Zionists out to control the domestic jews and arabs and put them is Israelie while they wait judgment day whrere the State of Israel is to be destroyed. Well this one Rabbi knows his stuff and said we can live under Arab rule and Arabs can live under so called Jewish rule for the arabs and jews in the holy land, are brothers. The Sons of the Prophets and the Sons of God are brother as are all the KIngs Men and Kings, brothers. I am so sick of this religoius crap - for this is master plan for murder and all things are ready. America first must be destroyed that is the white race, for hey will take no crap any more from wild blacks and latinos runung through streets raping and molesting women - and any lady would not have been in that crowd anyway. So this is face of America - ugly, dirty and a cess pool awaiting return of the King? Return of the King means forfeiture of Constitutional govrnment, does it not. Only Kings and Queens
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
In a message dated 6/22/00 8:15:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I prefer ancient Aramaic! () I like Cognac ;-)!!! But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now a "convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists and the Far Right. A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the end, all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses" to complete "the plan" of this "group"? Super-intriguing proposition!!! A mega-grand(e) unified theory! Maybe dude!!! Maybe!! Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just like in a good movie script? (ggg) Upon which her collegen-laden lip implanst will what...explode??? Or just ooze?? Best, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Revenge of Gary Aldrich
ALL THE PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS Revenge of Gary Aldrich Clinton-Gore security meltdown sad vindication for ex-FBI agent By Paul Sperry © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- He could crow, "I told you so," and who could blame him? Even early skeptics Sam Donaldson and Tim Russert have confessed to him, in private, that he was right all along. But that wouldn't be his style. The soft-spoken, almost diffident, FBI agent who first warned of the White House's reckless disregard for security procedures, is also too busy exhorting other federal whistle-blowers to come forward to inform the public of a dangerous pattern over the past nearly eight years: the systematic dismantling of safeguards across the entire U.S. security complex. Gary Aldrich could also dish out dirt (and there's "a ton," he says) on the Clinton appointees who smeared him in the press as a "pathological liar." After all, he would know, having read their sensitive FBI "302" reports while vetting them for jobs. But to this day -- even though he's retired from the bureau and can't be fired or sued for violating The Privacy Act -- Aldrich holds his tongue. It's not easy for him, judging from his pained eyes and clenched jaw. During a two-hour interview in his Fairfax, Va., office, he came close to returning the favor when a few White House names popped up. So what stops him? "My own ethics," he said. In 1995, Aldrich left the White House, where he worked as one of the FBI agents tasked with clearing new White House hires for security passes. The next year, his book, "Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House," was published. The shocking bestseller charged, among other things, that White House officials were hiring hard-drug users and other security risks over agents' vetoes. Many of them gained access to classified information without proper clearance. After being pilloried by the White House and its friends in the prestige press as a "liar," Aldrich became withdrawn. And when other law-enforcement agents failed to back his story -- and his own agency turned over his manuscript to the White House, without his consent -- he became disillusioned with his whole profession. He was out on a long, lonely limb, and the sound of sawing was deafening. But slowly, with each new report of security lapses, his story of loose security and reckless conduct has been confirmed. At the White House, drug and gun smugglers were waved into fund-raising coffees with the president and vice president. One Clinton donor with Beijing ties even managed to sneak a foreigner past the Secret Service using a bogus driver's license. But it's not just the White House. A recent undercover sting by Congress turned up alarming security failures at 19 government agencies, including the Pentagon and even Aldrich's former employer, the FBI. And now, with yet another major security breach at Los Alamos National Laboratory, more and more fingers are pointing back to the White House. In every agency that deals with protecting national-security secrets, normal security rules and procedures have been ignored, changed or tossed during the Clinton-Gore years. Clinton appointees have kicked open lab gates to foreign visitors, even ripping out the doors to the Energy Department's executive suites. They've shelved security badges. They've cut funding and staff for Pentagon background checks, resulting in a backlog of hundreds of thousands. The CIA's own director downloaded classified files onto an unsecured home computer used, among other things, to access Internet porn. Officials at the State Department, where escorts were no longer required for foreign visitors, have "lost" top-secret laptops. Meanwhile, Russian and Chinese spies run amok. But there is one place where security is tighter, Aldrich says: The Democratic National Committee headquarters. In 1998, Aldrich founded The Patrick Henry Center for Individual Liberty to aid and support whistle-blowers opposed to serious wrongdoing, especially involving national security, in the federal government. One of his clients is a former senior Energy Department official who exposed to Congress the dismantling of military lab security by Clinton appointees -- and suffered reprisals for it. After he was effectively fired from his job, he says the administration had him tailed. Another Aldrich client is a Pentagon official who also was harassed for blowing the whistle on the department's loosening of background investigations. "We're running a civilian witness-protection program here," Aldrich, 55, said. The center plans to broadcast ads on a Washington-area FM radio station, entreating federal employees to come forward with what they know about Clinton corruption and attempts by his political appointees to undermine national security. The spots will appeal to their "sense of patriotism, shame, you name it," Aldrich said. They'll also let them know their rights. Aldrich served 26 years as a
[CTRL] NYP: ENERGY CHIEF MUST ENVY HIS 'TEFLON' BOSS
New York Post-June 22, 2000 ENERGY CHIEF MUST ENVY HIS TEFLON' BOSS By DEBORAH ORIN POOR Bill Richardson. Here we are in the Clinton era when you can usually wiggle out of just about anything - sex, lies or videotape - by claiming the dog ate your homework. Or blaming a "vast right-wing conspiracy." But excuses and buck-passing aren't working for the hapless energy secretary. His star has fallen like a fading dot-com company as he gets blamed for lost nuclear secrets and skyrocketing gas prices. He was on Al Gore's veep list. Now he may have to walk the plank as a human sacrifice after the Senate's senior Democrat - not Republican - Robert Byrd (W.Va.) told Richardson he'd lost "any faith in what you say." "What's going on here? "People have allowed the permissiveness, laxity and excuses of the Clinton era because they didn't see consequences - this shows it has consequences," says a Democratic strategist. "It frames a way to go at what gnaws at people about the Clinton era. It's not about sex, it's about nuclear secrets. It's a metaphor for George W. Bush to talk about those issues without ever talking about sex and morals." Republican pollster John MacLaughlin says President Clinton has always been able to get out of Monicagate and other scrapes by appealing to people's empathy, but that won't work here. "There's no empathy about losing nuclear secrets," MacLaughlin says. "Clinton likes to say, Yes, I did it, but ...' - but there's no middle ground here. Either you lost nuclear secrets or you didn't." Clearly this whole mess isn't helping Gore (or his again-reinvented campaign) in the polls where he now trails Bush by about 10 points nationally. * It's also noteworthy that Richardson is the guy taking the heat here - the radioactive buck landed on his desk, not Clinton's. But Republicans, who don't much care about the lame-duck president these days anyway, are out to make sure Gore shares the blame with Richardson, his wannabe veep. The GOP is busy documenting all the debates and fund-raisers where Richardson found the time to appear to boost Gore - time he took out of his real taxpayer-paid job of minding the nuclear store and gas prices. * Latest Gore-land rumor says the veep wants his own veep to be a senior statesman type and the top prospects are ex-Sen. George Mitchell (of Ireland peace-process fame) and Defense Secretary William Cohen. One big problem with Mitchell: He made big bucks as a lawyer for Big Tobacco. Not such a cool idea for the supposedly anti-smoking Gore who already has Big Tobacco image-maker Carter Eskew as his image-man. Cohen, a Republican, says he wants to go back to the private sector. He also poses the question of how the country would react to a man with a Jewish name on a national ticket (Cohen is Unitarian but his dad was a Russian Jew). Rumors say Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh also is high on Gore's veep list but the latest poll has Bush up by 21 points in Dan Quayle's home state, suggesting Gore can't win there even with a Hoosier running mate. * Nothing worries Dems more than California, the state Gore absolutely must win, and conflicting polls there have them flummoxed. One poll this week had Gore up by 11 points, another by just 3, a virtual tie. Private polls put Gore ahead by about 5 statewide but a Dem strategist says the real worry is that he leads only around Los Angeles and San Francisco. The rest of the state, which is more like Middle America, is all Bush-land. All of which might suggest that Gore's best veep bet is California Gov. Gray Davis - if he'd accept. * Republicans say they weren't just having fun when they included Arkansas in their first round of national ads - they insist private polls show Gore is in trouble in Clinton's home state. Actually that shouldn't come as a surprise. Gore isn't a shoo-in in his next-door home state of Tennessee either. * Bad news for right-winger Pat Buchanan and liberal Ralph Nader. The Commission on Presidential Debates says you have to be at 15 percent in polls to get in. That means neither would make the cut. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread
[CTRL] NYP: Gossip-HILLARY-BASHER'S LISTENING TOUR
New York Post June 22, 2000 Page Six By RICHARD JOHNSON with Paula Froelich and Chris Wilson HILLARY-BASHER'S LISTENING TOUR MSNBC's conservative news analyst Laura Ingraham could turn out to be Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare. Ingraham - author of just-released "The Hillary Trap: Looking For Power in All The Wrong Places" (Hyperion) - is taking her show on the road, with a book tour hot on the heels of Hillary's "Listening Tour." "I'm doing my own listening tour, and hearing a lot of anti-Hillary sentiment," said Ingraham after her stop in Buffalo where "we just missed her." While Hillary is out on the hustings in her race for the Senate, Ingraham is pumping her tome, which portrays the first lady as a martyr who feels entitled to a Senate seat because she is a victim with correct ideology. "Her view of government is not progressive, it's retro," Ingraham said. "She's more aligned with the thinking of 1969. She's a throwback. She doesn't encourage self-reliance. "While most women are out there making tough choices, balancing careers with work and family - what is she doing? Her own life is very privileged." For instance, Hillary is always protected by a team of well-armed Secret Service men even as she espouses her dogmatic support for tougher gun control laws. "She doesn't need a gun in the house," Ingraham said. What bothers the caustic conservative most is what she termed "Hillary's "superior sense of entitlement." "She came into the Senate race entitled because she suffered. She was put upon by the vast right-wing conspiracy,' Ken Starr, a Newt Gingrich Congress, and a philandering husband. It's like, Elect me, I'm a victim!' Well, three cheers for feminism!" laughed Ingraham. "People have long memories - she made this trap herself. Imagine if she was not married to Bill, just some other guy, and she had no job and tried to run for Senate. People would laugh at her. "She thinks of Congress as an extension of the East Wing [of the White house.] She wants to have it all and real women know you can't have it all." For all her talking, Ingraham says she is listening too, and what she's hearing is, "Buffalo is definitely not Hillary's village. The overwhelming feeling is why us?'" But Ingraham has a grudging admiration for one quality the first lady displays. "She has an Energizer Bunny mentality - she just keeps on coming." snip balance = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TIME TO DO SOMETHING FOR BILLY DALE!
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:19:05 -0400
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TIME TO DO SOMETHING FOR BILLY DALE!
Independent Counsel Ray Dumps Travelgate To Spare Ethics
Investigation Of His Office
Judicial Watch Client Has Sued White House
(Washington, DC) If there was ever one scandal in the Clinton
Administration that was simple to prove and which touched the
average American, it was the firing and subsequent
prosecution by Hillary Rodham Clinton of the Travel Office
workers. In an unprecedented attempt to insert Hollywood
friends into the running of this office, most likely for the
personal profit of the Clintons themselves, Billy Dale and
others were unjustly accused and prosecuted for alleged
improper financial practices. If this wasn't enough,
characteristically, the Internal Revenue Service was sicced
on Mr. Dale. All charges against Dale and the other Travel
Office workers were thrown out in record time, but the stench
of Travelgate lives on.
During Judicial Watch's $90-million class-action Filegate
lawsuit, it uncovered hard evidence that Hillary Clinton was
the mastermind of Travelgate. Indeed, the FBI files of the
Travel Office workers were improperly in Vince Foster's
office shortly before he died. After Foster's death, they
were removed and likely taken to The White House residence
where they were apparently stored in a closet used by Mrs.
Clinton to hide documents. The testimony of Mack McLarty
confirms that he consulted regularly with Mrs. Clinton over
the Travel Office scandal, but an affidavit provided by Mrs.
Clinton to Congress falsely states that she had no
involvement at all. In this context, the prosecution of Mrs.
Clinton is a "slam dunk" -- yet Independent Counsel Robert
Ray now says he will take no action, as he took no action in
the related Filegate scandal.
Mr. Ray, a lifelong Democrat who, according to a New York
Times profile, intends to run for office ("Forgotten but Not
Gone, Starr's Heir Presses On," March 25, 2000), also has
another interest in not pursuing Mrs. Clinton. In an article
written by Robert Suro of The Washington Post entitled
"Justice Dept. Puts Starr Investigation on Hold, Sources
Say," of June 6, 1999, the journalist-- who has close
contacts with the Clinton-Gore Justice Department -- writes
that Attorney General Janet Reno offered not to investigate
the Independent Counsel for alleged ethics violations if he
shut down his investigation of the Clinton-Gore
Administration. This is apparently what has happened, and Mr.
Ray has taken a dive. Most telling is that Ray has concluded
both the Travelgate and Filegate investigations before
receiving the incriminating e-mails on both of these
investigations, evidence which has been hidden from his
office as well as Congress and Judicial Watch.
"Mr. Ray owes justice not just to the American people but to
Judicial Watch client Billy Dale and the other Travel Office
workers who were subject to perhaps the most callous,
inhuman, and corrupt treatment by this Clinton-Gore
Administration. Judicial Watch will not rest until justice is
done. Judicial Watch has brought suit for Mr. Dale against
The White House," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General
Counsel Larry Klayman.
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[CTRL] Watch Senatorial Scolding of Richardson (1 minute clip)
Lucianne mentioned on her radio show that the NYT account didn't include quotes from this berating. Senatorial Scolding! Senator Robert Byrd rips into Energy Secretary Bill Richardson at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee (1 minute clip) http://www.foxnews.com/video/cgi-bin/vm_out_js.pl?player=rmvideo_src=/video/062100/video/losalamoshearing0621hi.rm OR watch with embedded player from this page (MediaPlayer, RealPlayer, or Quicktime) http://www.foxnews.com/video/main.sml "a multimedia news portal" http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/heartwoodlbr/CAS_NEWSBOARD.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Voting in the US and the Media
June 17, 2000 Network America e-wire Shocking Interview: Vicky Collier vs. VNS! Here is an astounding development. Vicky Collier, daughter of the late legendary votescam investigator Jim Collier, is now a reporter herself but with the independent press, not the controlled media. Recently, Vicky Collier called up Voter News Service, the mysterious entity that conducts all the exit polls for AP wire, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN (maybe FOX too by now). For years the TV networks were pretending to be in hot competition to project the 'winners' and the 'losers' until the Colliers uncovered the whole 'election night competition scam' in the mid eighties. Then in 1994, a Federal Elections Commission report authored by Margaret Sims officially confirmed that all the Big TV networks jointly contracted with this one shadowy private corporation. (See 'A House Without Doors' in our archives at votefraud.com --- third item down -- and this article is also the ewire for May 30, 2000 which is now up on our E-wires by month in the ìnewsî section at votefraud.org in fact all of our ewires are up there now going back to the first one on Jan 10, 2000.) We at Network America and Citizens for a Fair Vote Count have long called for an investigation into the 5 Big TV Networks, the AP wire, Voter News Service, and the computer companies which count the vote in America. We believe there is collusion between the 5 Big TV networks who publish the incessant Network sponsored public opinion polls, Voter News Service, which conducts the mysterious (and we say preposterous) exit polls on election day which provide the 'basis' upon which the 5 Big TV networks predict the winners and losers right as the polls close, and the companies which are programming the computers which count the American vote. Which brings us to this historic telephone interview just posted at Votescam.com. A Bill Headline at Voter News Service (VNS) talked to Vicky Collier and what a conversation it is. Here's a brief sample. I have yet to read this interview thoroughly, and we will carry commentary as soon as I get a chance to do so. But I wanted you to know about it right away. Here's a sample of the Vicky Collier interview with Bill Headline of the Voter News Service operation: Collier- Yes, I was calling to ask if you had any information you could send to me. Any literature about your organization. Headline- Ah, well. . . um. . . . . (laughs) . . I hesitate only because we don't really have anything in the way of literature. Uh. . . we have a fax sheet that we're in the process of putting together but it's not ready for distribution. Um. . . Collier- Oh. And you don't have a Website? Headline- Well, no, we don't have a Website. Collier- But, people poll for you? I mean, you do poll? Headline- We. . uh, we do exit polling. Collier- Do you have volunteers who do that? Headline- No, we hire people around the country to do that. Collier- So, if somebody wanted to work for you, how would they get information on how to do it? Headline- Well they would, uh. . . they would drop us a note and say that they were interested in. . uh. . in doing that. And I'd be happy to uh. . . to receive such a note. And uh. . . we have a . . uh. . . a group of people who recruit for exit polling on election night. Collier- Well, it is strange that you don't have any written information that you could send out. I mean-- Headline- Why is it strange? Collier- Well just because your organization has been around for such a long time, and it seems that in all this time there would be something written up. For the public? Headline- We uh. . . we do a little, a little . . . as I say, we have a fax that's in uh, that's in development. And uh, we have a . . . a brochure that gets sent out to people who have been hired to work for us. Collier- Oh, you do have a brochure. Headline- A. . . well, brochure is kind of stretching it, it's a. . . it's one page. Collier- It's one page? Headline- But I, uh. . I mean. . .(laughs) I am aware that this is not the first contact between uh. . . uh. . . your organization and ours. So, I mean. . . . What is it that you want to know? Collier- I would like to know exactly what it is that you do on election night. That's-- Headline- And why do you want to know this? Collier- Because I'm . . . I'm a voter. Headline- But that's not why you're calling us. Collier- Well, actually that is why. That's it. Of course, I'm sure you're aware of certain charges, of. . . secrecy, I guess, that have been brought against what was NES, and I think you're the same group-- you're VNS now-- and I'm really just checking it out for myself, to see if I can get information. Because I really wasn't aware of the importance of your group in vote counting on election night. I just want to get information on what it is you do. And the question that was asked to Lee C. Shapiro last week that I think caused the problem was: Is there a citizen organization that
Re: [CTRL] Watch Senatorial Scolding of Richardson (1 minute clip)
In a message dated 6/22/00 8:56:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucianne mentioned on her radio show that the NYT account didn't include quotes from this berating. But her surreptitiously recorded tapes caught it all...right Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Anti-Democrat A-Team
"Members include Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, Caspar Weinberger, FRANK CARLUCCI, Brent Scowcroft, and Richard V. Allen ... "[Except for one], all have worked in the administrations of Republican presidents Reagan and Bush ..." GOP Enlists Security Advisers By TOM RAUM .c The Associated Press WASHNGTON (AP) - Republican congressional leaders announced Thursday the formation of an election-year advisory panel of outspoken Clinton administration critics to study breaches of nuclear secrets and other national security issues. The panel will be chaired by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, said House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss. ``We'll ask the members of this group to review the administration's record of failure in safeguarding our nation's most important secrets,'' Lott told a news conference. The panel reads like a who's who of prominent administration detractors on defense and foreign policy issues - and several on the list have advised Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush. Members include former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and George Shultz, former defense secretaries Richard Cheney, James Schlesinger, Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former CIA Director James Woolsey, former national security advisers Brent Scowcroft and Richard V. Allen and former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin Powell. ``We in the leadership are extremely fortunate to be able to tap the knowledge and expertise of these seasoned national security advisers,'' Hastert said in a statement. Woolsey is the only one on the list to have worked in the Clinton administration, as CIA director early in Clinton's term from 1993-95. But since then, he has been a frequent critic of the administration's national security policy. The others all worked in the administrations of Republican presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush - although Schlesinger also did a short stint as Democratic President Jimmy Carter's energy secretary. Lott said the panel was not an attempt to bypass the committee system in the House and the Senate, ``but the expertise that can be brought to the speaker and me in critical areas from this group could be very helpful.'' He said the group would look into the recent disappearance of computer disks at the Los Alamos nuclear lab - and their mysterious reappearance - and would make recommendations on further tightening security. The group will also provide advice on ``national missile defense, deployment and the deployment decision, relations with China, Russia, Iraq (and) what is the true situation in North Korea,'' Lott said. ``As you know, we've had security lapses at the State Department, we've had them with FBI files showing up on White House kitchen tables, we had the problem of former CIA Director John Deutch. Security is not getting the attention it should have been getting,'' Lott added. Lott also used his news conference to offer some unsolicited criticism of Vice President Al Gore, noting that he had broken a tie in the Senate on a budget bill that included a rise in the federal excise tax on gasoline by 4.3 cents a gallon. ``And of course, he thinks the internal combustion engine is a really bad idea,'' Lott asserted. He did not elaborate.
Re: [CTRL] Illuminati Online
Michael Pugliese wrote: http://www.io.com/ Curses discovered again! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] soon it will be a crime to look
Regardless of whether or not you think it's OK to sue, and regardless of who's doing the talking, sexual comments, lascivious stares, and comments about one's figure have no place in a professional setting, unless one works in a brothel. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
ROTFLMAO!!! Well, i think we lipo-sucked all the cosmetic fat outa that one! I'll just go back and work on my Le-Grande Vaticanni Conspiratorium. G'Day to ya!!! - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam In a message dated 6/22/00 8:15:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I prefer ancient Aramaic! () I like Cognac ;-)!!! But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now a "convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists and the Far Right. A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the end, all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses" to complete "the plan" of this "group"? Super-intriguing proposition!!! A mega-grand(e) unified theory! Maybe dude!!! Maybe!! Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just like in a good movie script? (ggg) Upon which her collegen-laden lip implanst will what...explode??? Or just ooze?? Best, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] soon it will be a crime to look
You ever been in a Big Corporations Board Room??? () But Shesh!!! thats NOTHING comapred to a Women's Meeting!!! - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] soon it will be a crime to look Regardless of whether or not you think it's OK to sue, and regardless of who's doing the talking, sexual comments, lascivious stares, and comments about one's figure have no place in a professional setting, unless one works in a brothel. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
First of all, I am a moderator, but no one has to "answer to me" as long as they
follow list rules. If you want to believe the tripe about the Talmud, and that the
Protocals are "channeled", or whatever, be my guest, but don't expect me or other
people on this list to sit idly by without challenging the ideas.
Frankly I am sick of the Protocols business, and the Talmud stuff and the general
bashing of the Jews (as well I might add, other disenfrancised groups now and
throughout history). The Jews have been the scapegoats of history since the New
Testament makes it seem it is THEIR fault that Christ was killed, when it is
abundantly clear it was the ROMANS who had absolute authority over life and death in
the region at that time. The same kind of things happen to other groups as well.
Jewish beliefs are old, and while I think a great deal of their religion is myth, like
most other religions, I support their right to live in peace and believe what they
want. The way I see it is, EVEN IF the Talmud was their highest law, and EVEN IF what
these Christian writers say about it is true, it is still ridiculous to believe that
all the Jews are running around today conspiring with each other against Christians or
anyone else. In my mind it is pure foolishness.
Now, having said all that, I don't hold the Jews to any higher standard than I do
anyone else. They are just as much prone to evil as the next man, and I believe that
some of them exploit, kill, steal, and are in on conspiracies to dupe people, as well
as all the other evil things that MEN do.
In terms of wrongdoing and death, however, no one will ever beat White Europeans, and
the Catholic Church.
On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:
I don't have to answer to you tenebroust, you are not the moderator as far
as I know, but for your information some believe that the Talmud is
Babylonian. That the Jews didn't write it so are not responsible for the
content.
Other say that the Jesuits wrote the Protocols of Zion.
Yet others say the Kaballa is Hindu.
So that leaves the Jews entirely innocent dosen't it?
My belief on this, which you have said you won't attack, is that the above
is entirely possible to my belief system, but I further believe that in
addition to the Jesuits getting the Protocols information it may have been
channeled,
because I don't think any human could think that up. These Jesuits may have
been originally genetically from the Pharisees, who would have Babylonian
blood of a non human nature. So they are not really 'chosen ones'.
So that means these books are attributed to Jews and they may not have
anything to do with writing them at all.
So that another view, and as you can see I post stuff from Catholics, Jews
{brit AM} and new agers so to me is is infomation only, I do not endorse
everything.
You only post comments so you only have your views, I present a variety.
Nicky
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From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, 22 June 2000 15:45
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are
Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole
subject is invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives
a damn. I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members
BELIEFS. You are totally free, and have my blessing, to believe what you
will. I, and everyone else here is free to challenge information brought
here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a
systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic
Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the
"Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and
been used to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and
property.
Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most
consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite
many attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.).
On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:
Josh,
You've hurt my feelings now, to think I'm in your tribe too. So we take it
that you endorse the Talmud then? I'd like to know why it isn't available
in
the public library, I think we all know why. Perhaps I could find some
better writings on the Talmud, written by Jews. Would that appeal? I
wouldn't want you to think I was only writing the Christian view.
Perhaps the Kaballa? If I send something on that written by Christians
would
you say I particularly am deluded?
Ahh if I send something on the Protocols written by a Christian will you
also cut me down?
I'm not particularly looking for Christian writers but bud you are
outnumbered in USA. the chances of finding someone other than a Christian
writer on this is slim. I have
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
I attack no beliefs, I only let these groups actions speak for themselves. The Catholic Church (not ALL Christians) have murdered millions over the years, as have White Europeans. It is just a fact. I present it to illustrate the true enemies of free thinking and free living man, and it isn't the Jews. On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole subject is invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives a damn. I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. You are totally free, and have my blessing, to believe what you will. I, and everyone else here is free to challenge information brought here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and been used to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and property. Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite many attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.). No attacking of beliefs you say...but you can attack the beliefs of Christians even though you can't prove with certainty that they espoused those beliefs. Did the ADL pay you to post this? FWP On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Josh, You've hurt my feelings now, to think I'm in your tribe too. So we take it that you endorse the Talmud then? I'd like to know why it isn't available in the public library, I think we all know why. Perhaps I could find some better writings on the Talmud, written by Jews. Would that appeal? I wouldn't want you to think I was only writing the Christian view. Perhaps the Kaballa? If I send something on that written by Christians would you say I particularly am deluded? Ahh if I send something on the Protocols written by a Christian will you also cut me down? I'm not particularly looking for Christian writers but bud you are outnumbered in USA. the chances of finding someone other than a Christian writer on this is slim. I have never seen a Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu ever take the trouble to write on these tabu subjects. Yet you particularly enjoy slandering Christians and Christianity and that's supposed to be Ok tarring everyone with the same brush. I posted it because it makes a change from always hearing bad things about Christianity and I thought it may be valuable to some. I'm not anti Jewish. Even some Jews don't know what's in the book. Just pick out what you want and leave the rest, if you don't then you are reduced to not sending stuff and commenting endlessly and tediously on those people's that do send..Its getting like a flock of seagulls pouncing on a tidbit to tear a piece for themselves. My posts are generating too many arguments. I haven't got time to pander to people's egos, its just information. I am interested in religious views of all kinds among other things.Pick on someone yer own size you big bully! Nicky -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 03:07 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Nicky Molloy wrote: Talmud Exposed http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#Talmud Exposed -- -- http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm Contents: The Talmud is Judasim's Holiest Book Some Teachings of The Jewish Talmud Insults Against The Blessed Virgin Mary Talmud Attacks Christians Christian Book Burning Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Tales of a Roman Holocaust A Revealing Admission Pharisiac Rituals A Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman Genocide Advocated by The Talmud Jewish Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are Not Humans The Teachings of Maimonides Deception and Dissimulation Judean-Christian Response to The Talmud The Talmud is Judaism's Holiest Book Wrong! No Jew who ever lived thought that. EVER! The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Wrong! No Jew in all of history ever thought that. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old
[CTRL] The Law was Talmud Exposed -- point of clarification
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Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
Amazing! The ADL has links to organized crime. They support Zionism, and are for the advancement of their own race and an "exclusive" Jewish State. WOW!! One has to ask, just what does the organization N.O.F.E.A.R. support and who are they in bed with? I guess that group just loves everybody and is out for the betterment of all men including non-Europeans and Jews? On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ $1 million in prizes! 20 daily instant winners. AltaVista Rewards: Click here to win! http://shopping.altavista.com/e.sdc?e=3 ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
You deserve an Oscar for that eagle. This exactly what I am saying. People are blaming the Jews for stuff they are not doing or haven't done. Noone is standing up for them because they are ignorant as to what is the real truth. A few calling themselves "Jews" who have other serpentine blood are operating from the instincts of need for survive - mistakenly thinking they are "chosen" to recieve the/a Messiah when he comes in the future. Their 'god' is King David who is worshipped in the Protocols of Zion.Only the 'Seed of David' will inherite the earth. Those who follow the Protocols of Zion are European royalty david's descendants. You would never find a person in the Illuminati who is not royal. Nobody in any big role in the NWO who does not have the blood of King David in their veins. I'm telling you straight this is the truth. I personally looked up the ancestry of those in power who would be on the Illuminati board and they come from the Scottish and Irish Kings. Rothschild knows full well that Zedekiah's daughters married into Irish royalty when the Jews got taken captive to Babylon. Later the royalty - the throne of David was transferred to Scotland and there it stayed.Just check the names and ancestry of those running intelligence agencies, national education, police and other areas of importance in English speaking countries. C'mon Echelon is run by the "CHOSEN" Josh you would only be chosen to them if you have the blood of King David. They ie the Rothschilds are rebuilding Solomon's Temple right now for this occasion. Following the Hindu Kabbala and trying to set the stage for a one world religion using NASA's Blue Beam holograms and radio freq voice of God messages. They have their Et masters who have conned them into believing they are Biblical figure with their technological miracles. These suckers are gathering the 12 tribes of Israel as some sort of super 6th Aryan race to repopulate the universe. They are creating 24 time portals around the world to open on the day of declaration for the reappearance of the hierarchy and all our so called masters and creators will appear as gods.HA! How deceived can one get? It has been proven over and over the 12 tribes are over every square inch of the planet now, yet we have how many 16 million? "Jews" . What we have is 16 million people who are not Christians or have not changed to any other religion. What this means is they have a moderate loyalty to the religion of their ancestors. (however personally I've not met a Jew that dosen't follow something else now) Many Jews have changed to Christianity and Islam centuries ago, plus other religions and they are still Jews ie tribe of Judah genetically. Yet the present Jews have all sorts in their genetics now. From white Russian Jews, African Jews, Arab Jews - there are even Jews in Japan and China. So much for racial consistancy. They can however find the tribe of Levi/Aaron with a genetic marker and the Israelis have 200 priests of Aaron descended for service in the rebuilt Temple. One dosen't need to be a brain surgeon to see what is going to occur in the future. Why are there 300+ concentration camps and guillotines in USA? Trains with shackles for 15 million, train tracks leading to concentration camps? Who is going to be rounded up? Chosen ones? Or ones that don't make the grade genetically? can anyone answer this please? Nicky -Original Message- From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 23 June 2000 13:17 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Aleisha Saba said, Take that Old Testament and dump it Take the Old Testament and dump it? huh? What? And keep only the new? The new cannot be accepted without the tenents of the old... It simply won't hold water... Then there is no will and there is no testament if you dump the old... But THAT is exactly what this latter generation has done... tried to do away with the old and simply live off the new, claiming that the law has been done away with... etc., etc., etc., (yada yada yada...) and we now have a lawless generation, who just does what it pleases because they have totally misunderstood the whole plan from it's beginnings to it's ends. Who is to blame? Jesus said it best when he confronted the Pharisees, "[You are] making the Word of God of none effect through your traditions, which ye have delivered and many such like things do ye." ~Mark 7:13 And the traditions have continued as the truth has been suppressed in the process. Jesus taught that the New World Order was coming and those living in that generation when the time came would suffer through it. He also taught us how to fair during that time. He never said that no one would be killed or that people would escape ... As a matter of fact, even John the Baptist warned... Matt: 3:7 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, "O generation of vipers, who hath warned you
Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
Let us examine the words Capitalism and Monopoly. To me Capitalism is to make a lot of money but does making a lot of money signify Monopoly? Communist make much of American Capitalism and would see Microsoft as the perfect example. Microsoft has made a lot of money by allowing the dissemination of education and thoughts! To me a monopoly the control of education and thoughts. Do you know that you can own as many American TV Broadcasting Companies as you want? You can own as many Newspapers and Magazines as you want. All three of the most popular trash rags at the checkout stand are owned by the same company. Our ideas / mindset molded by those that control education / new ideas / news. So who has the monopoly? *- the one that apparently "seems" to be making the most money or the ones that control the media. SO Microsoft for making money OR AOL / TimeWarner / Netscape / for control of the media? Is Capitalism or Monopoly the cuss word? American Capitalism OR Communist Monopoly? ThePiedPiper 22June2000 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson brbr My Grandfather told me
[CTRL] ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert
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Re: [CTRL] Sham Zionist State Money Laundering Center
: Yet another piece of evidence that what Israel does has no connection : to Judaism or Jewish values... A sham idol heresy. : From: : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2000-06/haven230600.shtml : How unholy business thrives in the Holy : Land : By Phil Reeves in Jerusalem : 23 June 2000 : Money laundering in Israel has reached : colossal proportions in the last few years, : fuelled by the rise of Russian : organised-crime since the collapse of the : Soviet Union, liberal banking laws and : bank secrecy policies. : Billions of illegally acquired dollars from : Russia and the former Soviet republics, : South America, Africa and Europe have : passed through Israel in the last few years, : securing its status as one of the world's : leading money laundries. : Israel's police believe Russian gangsters : are taking advantage of the money-transfer : laws aimed at attracting Jewish people to : the country, to deposit profits and launder : funds. Their operations include narcotics : and prostitution rackets, bribes and : cream-offs from government funds and : loans. But they also involve the winnings : from a massive asset-stripping exercise : that began under the former president : Mikhail Gorbachev and has been underway : since, turning Russia into a kleptocracy in : which corruption runs from the top to the : bottom of the society. They are helped by : the 1 million former Soviet citizens living : in Israel who have arrived since 1991. : Earlier this year a Chechen was arrested : for reportedly trying to open an Israeli : account with $50m (£33m) in Venezuelan : cheques. Last summer an Israeli mobster : was convicted in Florida of running a : money-laundering business for a : Colombian cartel, prompting worries in : Israel about recycled cocaine money. The : businessman Gregory Lerner notoriously : admitted defrauding Russian banks of : $48m (£32m), which he used to try to open : a bank in Israel. He was fined $5m : (£3.3m), not for bringing in stolen money : but for local bribery and fraud. : Banking or spending the profits of illicit : offshore enterprises has not been illegal in : Israel, although moves are afoot to change : this. For this reason, Israel has been : considered a launderer's paradise. : Established as a safe-haven for the Jews, : the country has not asked many questions : about their riches. Many had fled nations : that prohibited them from taking money : abroad. The New York Times said about : $2.5bn (£1.7m) was brought in from the : former Soviet Union in the Nineties, almost : no questions asked. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: I attack no beliefs, I only let these groups actions speak for themselves. The Catholic Church (not ALL Christians) have murdered millions over the years, as have White Europeans. It is just a fact. I present it to illustrate the true enemies of free thinking and free living man, and it isn't the Jews. Do you agree that the genocide in the USSR which began in 1917 under a Jewish-dominated Government accompanied by the abortion holocaust in that region is also fact? FWP On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole subject is invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives a damn. I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. You are totally free, and have my blessing, to believe what you will. I, and everyone else here is free to challenge information brought here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and been used to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and property. Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite many attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.). No attacking of beliefs you say...but you can attack the beliefs of Christians even though you can't prove with certainty that they espoused those beliefs. Did the ADL pay you to post this? FWP On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Josh, You've hurt my feelings now, to think I'm in your tribe too. So we take it that you endorse the Talmud then? I'd like to know why it isn't available in the public library, I think we all know why. Perhaps I could find some better writings on the Talmud, written by Jews. Would that appeal? I wouldn't want you to think I was only writing the Christian view. Perhaps the Kaballa? If I send something on that written by Christians would you say I particularly am deluded? Ahh if I send something on the Protocols written by a Christian will you also cut me down? I'm not particularly looking for Christian writers but bud you are outnumbered in USA. the chances of finding someone other than a Christian writer on this is slim. I have never seen a Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu ever take the trouble to write on these tabu subjects. Yet you particularly enjoy slandering Christians and Christianity and that's supposed to be Ok tarring everyone with the same brush. I posted it because it makes a change from always hearing bad things about Christianity and I thought it may be valuable to some. I'm not anti Jewish. Even some Jews don't know what's in the book. Just pick out what you want and leave the rest, if you don't then you are reduced to not sending stuff and commenting endlessly and tediously on those people's that do send..Its getting like a flock of seagulls pouncing on a tidbit to tear a piece for themselves. My posts are generating too many arguments. I haven't got time to pander to people's egos, its just information. I am interested in religious views of all kinds among other things.Pick on someone yer own size you big bully! Nicky -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 03:07 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Nicky Molloy wrote: Talmud Exposed http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#Talmud Exposed -- -- http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm Contents: The Talmud is Judasim's Holiest Book Some Teachings of The Jewish Talmud Insults Against The Blessed Virgin Mary Talmud Attacks Christians Christian Book Burning Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Tales of a Roman Holocaust A Revealing Admission Pharisiac Rituals A Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman Genocide Advocated by The Talmud Jewish Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are Not Humans The Teachings of Maimonides Deception and Dissimulation Judean-Christian Response to The Talmud The Talmud is Judaism's Holiest Book Wrong! No Jew who ever lived thought that. EVER! The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes
[CTRL] Fwd: Book announcement
Did you think that the 78-day US/NATO bombing of Yugoslavia last year was an act of "humanitarianism"? If so, you might want to consider nominating General Pinochet for the Nobel Peace Prize. In an endeavor to put things in perspective, I've written "Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower." It is, in effect, a mini-encyclopedia of all the un-humanitarian acts of the US government during the past half century. The book tries to break through the mind set of those -- foreigners as well as Americans, and of various political leanings -- who begin with the premise that the United States, in its foreign policy, means well, and cling to that premise no matter what destruction and suffering the US inflicts upon the masses of people in every corner of the globe. For those who don't need this message, the book can still enlighten and serve as an excellent source of reference for all kinds of issues concerning US foreign policy and world affairs. You can read the Introduction and some of the chapters and -- now the shameless pitch -- how to order a copy at: http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm Or if you're in the US, you can simply send a check for $15 payable to me at 5100 Connecticut Ave., NW #707, Washington, DC 20008-2064 Bill Blum Author, "Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II"
[CTRL] Catherine Austin Fitts MP3 now up at www.ctrl.org/cia-drugs
Catherine Austin Fitts MP3 now up at www.ctrl.org/cia-drugs. Yes, a mp3 audio file of Catherine Austin Fitts talk at the CIA-Drugs Symposium, 6/10/00 , Eugene. Again, this is around 16MB and will take about 1.5 hrs @57kbps Om K ' A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JULY 2000 Earthquake Predictions
During the Seismic Window of July 1-8, 2000 there will be expect a 3.5-6.0M quake within 140 miles (2-degrees) of San Jose, CA; a 3.5-6.5M quake within 140 miles of Los Angeles; a 3.0-5.0M quake in Oregon or Washington; and a major (7+M) earthquake somewhere in the world, most likely within the Pacific Ring of Fire, where about 80% of large earthquakes have occurred. Editor: Jim Berkland. Geologist Box 1926 Glen Ellen, CA. 95442 (707) 935-6512 FAX (707) 935-6639 -- -- Welcome to http://www.syzygyjob.com/ SYZYGY Sizz-a-Jee (Linked by a common need interest) THIS IS AN ACTIVE PAGE. DURING SEISMIC WINDOWS, WE UPDATE THE LATEST EARTHQUAKE DATA CONSTANTLY. BETWEEN SEISMIC WINDOWS, WE ADD ARTICLES AND FEATURES. CHECK BACK OFTEN. -- -- July 2000 Update NEWS FLASH! June 21st: Jim Berkland is scheduled to be on Coast to Coast AM with Mike Siegel from 10pm to 2am. [This was a fascinating program.] The Seismic Window of June 1-8, 2000 produced pretty much as advertised. The largest quake in two years, and the first major event since my May Window took place on June 4th in the form of a huge 7.9M shocker in Indonesia at Sumatera Island. Thousands of people became homeless and the death toll was admitted to exceed 100. In Southern California, there were multiple small quakes, but during the Window, there was only one that reached 3.5M (one is enough). At 07:24 a.m. on June 2nd a 3.5M was centered near Salton Sea at a location given as Obsidian Butte. On June 7th a much more widely felt quake of 3.1M struck near Moorpark. After the window closed there were two additional quakes predicted by Kathy Gori on my Website, based upon her long-recognized earthquake headaches. On June 11th a 4.0M shook Ludlow, and on June 14th There was a series near Brawley, with the strongest measuring 4.5, 4.2, 3.5 and 3.6M. Although these Brawley quakes struck 12 days after syzygy, the timing is typical for quakes in that area, where the window is Syzygy +7 through Syzygy + 14 days. In the Northwest there was a series of quakes off the Oregon Coast on June 2nd, with the largest measuring 5.9, 4.6 and 4.2 magnitude. I had predicted a maximum of 5.5 so I can at least claim the two smaller ones as direct hits. However, at my home base in the San Francisco Bay Area, no quakes exceeded 2.8M during my window. The first 3.5M event in this area since March shook the Calaveras Fault east of San Jose on June 12th. Although it rattled my former home, it was a clear miss for by Bay Area prediction. Oh, well, three of four is my long-term average, and I expect to do as well in July. PREDICTION FOR JULY 2000 The Seismic Window for July 1-8, 2000 is especially significant. There will be a partial eclipse of the Sun on July 1st (visible In Patagonia and the South Pacific). Just three hours after the eclipse, the Earth/Moon distance (perigee) will be at the minimum for the year (about 221,900 miles.) This astronomical synchroneity will generate Golden Gate tides of 8.8 ft., a range not exceeded since December 21, 1991. (During that window there were quakes of 7.5M in the Kurile Islands, 7.4M in the South Sandwich Islands, 4.0M at Barstow, 3.3M at Vacaville, and 5.6M at Vancouver Island.) The perigean spring tide during the July window can also be partly ascribed to the increased gravitational forces from the summer solstice (June 21st), and the inflection point on July 4th, created by aphelion (the far point in the Earth's yearly orbit.) The role of aphelion can be better appreciated by recognizing the evidence from the Moon, where astronauts left seismographs. A great preponderance of moonquakes occur at the monthly perigee, but there is a secondary seismic flurry two weeks later at apogee. This demonstrates that it is not just the pure physical force-field that triggers quakes, but also inflection points and rates of change. Based upon these factors, I am making the following predictions, with 80% confidence: During the Seismic Window of July 1-8, 2000 there will be expect a 3.5-6.0M quake within 140 miles (2-degrees) of San Jose, CA; a 3.5-6.5M quake within 140 miles of Los Angeles; a 3.0-5.0M quake in Oregon or Washington; and a major (7+M) earthquake somewhere in the world, most likely within the Pacific Ring of Fire, where about 80% of large earthquakes have occurred. Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically
[CTRL] Fwd: Orlikow v. United States (1988) - Mind control survivors
http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr300-mkultra.html From the March-April 2000 issue (Vol. 7 No. 3) Mind-Control Part 1: Canadian and U.S. Survivors Seek Justice "Curiously, often a classic manifestation of people who are afflicted with certain psychotic disorders is the irrational fear that the CIA and FBI is conspiring to harm them. In this case, the CIA involvement is real and the covert nature of the involvement is not contested." Orlikow v. United States (1988)1 By Arlene Tyner Gripping survivor-centered accounts of medical atrocities committed by CIA-funded mind-control (MC) researchers during the Cold War are rarely found in traditional U.S. media.2 Neither are they the subject of emotionally powerful TV docu-dramas commonly produced for broadcast and cable television. In January 1998, the Canadian Broadcasting System (CBC) courageously filled this void, although the blackout on government MC history is near-total in the U.S. The Sleep Room, a gut-wrenching four-hour miniseries, depicts the true story of Dr. Ewen Camerons secret MKULTRA brainwashing experiments carried out in the late 50s and early 60s at Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal. Widespread publicity accompanying this major TV event has empowered many other Canadian survivors of nonconsensual brainwashing experiments in hospitals and prisons to come forward and seek justice in the courts.3 In Part I of the miniseries, gifted actors dramatize how vulnerable, trusting hospital patients were transformed into virtual vegetables through doses of "electroconvulsive therapy" 30-40 times more powerful than usual, sensory deprivation, hallucinogenic and paralytic drugs, and other psychological and physical tortures. Part II grippingly depicts the successful eight-year U.S. lawsuit of nine survivors, who overcame fear to confront the humiliations and frustrating delay tactics of the CIA lawyers. Joseph L. Rauh, Jr., a legendary Washington civil rights attorney, and his partner James C. Turner eventually prevailed for their clients. In 1988, the U.S. "national security" establishment agreed to an out-of-court settlement of $750,000.4 This extraordinary CBC drama was based on Anne Collins prize-winning 1989 book In the Sleep Room: The Story of CIA Brainwashing Experiments in Canada. Collins exposed Camerons 1930s-1940s history of ethically unsupportable experiments on psychiatric patients. Many of the people methodically abused by Cameron had entered the Institute suffering only from mild disorders such as anxiety and post-partum depression. By the time they were released from the Sleep Room torture chamber, many had decades of memory completely wiped out. Some did not remember their children and even had to relearn bladder and bowel control. A U.S. citizen since 1941, the Scottish-born Cameron resided in Albany, New York, from which he commuted to Montreal each week. Before taking on the directorship at Allan Memorial, which is associated with McGill University, Cameron was chair of psychiatry and neurology at a medical school in Albany. He worked closely with Alan Gregg, medical-sciences director of the Rockefeller Foundation, which provided grants to found the Institute in 1943.5 As director from 1943 to 1964, Cameron achieved a worldwide reputation, serving as the first chair of the World Psychiatric Association, as well as president of the American and Canadian psychiatric associations. In one barely watchable scene of institutional cruelty, Cameron is filmed delivering a speech to psychiatrists about his successes in "curing" mental illness. As he drones on, the camera switches to scenes of terrified resisting patients being captured and restrained by doctors and nurses, forcibly being dosed with drugs and high-voltage electroshock, then put to sleep for weeks at a time in a room full of beds equipped with tape recorders and football helmets. Winner in 1998 of the Academy of Canadian Cinema and Televisions Gemini Awards in best picture and other categories, The Sleep Room touched the raw nerves of Canadian citizens. Not only did they learn their government had been the CIAs junior consort during the Cold War against Communism, they also discovered it had secretly granted $500,000 to fund the Allan Memorial experiments. The CIA had only given Cameron $69,000 from 1957 to 1964. As the lawsuit dragged on through the Reagan presidency, Rauh was forced to expose the Canadian governments role in helping the CIA derail the lawsuit, in complete disregard for pain and lifelong suffering of its own citizens.6 In 1992 the Canadian government coughed up $100,000 for 76 Cameron victims. To date 127 of his patients have come forward with their horror stories to seek compensation. CIA psychologist John Gittinger initiated contact with Cameron after reading his article on "Psychic Driving" in the January 1956 American Journal of Psychiatry. Gittinger persuaded Cameron to apply to the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology, a CIA
[CTRL] Fw: [ChristianPatriot] Last Time This Happened, Nero Was Rosining His Bow ....
- Original Message - From: Steven Wallace To: Stephen Wilson Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: [ChristianPatriot] Last Time This Happened, Nero Was Rosining His Bow New Federal Lending Program Benefits Homosexual Owned BusinessesAgreement Formally Recognizes Homosexuals as Minority Group By Fred JacksonJune 21, 2000(AgapePress) - It appears another conservative prediction has become a reality.The Denver Post reports that for the first time, the Clinton Administration has formally recognized homosexuals as a minority group. The Post reports that the Small Business Administration is launching a lending program specifically for gay and lesbian business owners.Late last week, SBA deputy administrator Fred Hochberg signed an agreement with homosexual leaders in Denver to kick off the nationwide program. Among other things, it gives gay and lesbian business owners access to federal small-business loans and government subcontracting opportunities. As The Post notes, Hochberg is one of the Clinton Administration's top ranking homosexuals.The gay business leaders in Colorado are praising him for making the deal, saying it represents what can happen when one of their own gets in a high-level political position and can affect public policy.Just a few weeks ago, when President Clinton declared June as "Gay and Lesbian Pride Month," he noted more open homosexuals are now in senior government positions than at any other time. The government only has as much power as it's citizens give it.
[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] FAIR VOTE COUNT CONVENTION AUG 25-27 ---CINCINNATI
http://www.spotlight.org/06_18_00/Elections/elections.html Are Elections Rigged? Did you ever wonder if elections in the United States were rigged? A government watchdog group plans a convention to discuss the issue. By The SPOTLIGHT Staff The Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Convention will take place Aug. 25-27 at the Greater Cincinnati Airport. This is the first international convention devoted to restoring honest elections and getting rid of easily rigged computerized vote counting systems. Conferences will put "on the record" the evidence that TV networks have either censored events or, of those that did make it to the airwaves, attempted to make Americans forget about it. The event will also launch an action plan to get more Americans involved in the election process. The SPOTLIGHT has consistently given comprehensive coverage to the Votescam issue when investigations into computerized fraud began to gather steam in the early 1980s. Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Direc tor Jim Condit Jr. said in an exclusive interview with The SPOTLIGHT that the event will show a shocking compilation of what the networks didn't want you to see, namely: • Interview with Princeton Univer sity computer professor Howard J. Strauss, aired by CBS Evening News on election eve in 1988. Strauss tells Dan Rather: "When it comes to computerized elections, it's not a door without locks, it's a house without doors." There was never a follow-up to this report. • Report by Mary Krutko of WKRC-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio, on the only wiretapper ever to state in a deposition that he was involved in fixing an election. • Jim and Ken Collier, authors of Votescam: The Stealing of America, be ing dragged hundreds of feet and thrown out of the Dade County, Fla., Board of Elections. • Pat Buchanan on C-SPAN talking about the vote fraud against him in the Iowa Caucus of 1996. • Howard Phillips squarely addressing the vote fraud issue in his Labor Day, 1999, acceptance speech of the Constitution Party's nomination for president. • Sen. Bob Smith on C-SPAN discussing the fact that all four networks called him the loser in the New Hampshire Senate race in 1996. "They forgot that in New Hampshire we count the votes before we declare the winner," said Smith. (N.H. is the only state where all votes are hand counted in the general election.) Confirmed speakers are author and lecturer Devvy Kidd, who will speak about her own experiences with our "riggable" elections; Terry Hayvield, investigator, who will discuss the motives for the vote fraud establishment—financial monopoly via "free trade" and mergers; and John Schull, who fought crooked elections in Texas. Condit will give an overview of the vote fraud issue. Phyllis Collier will accept on behalf of her late husband, Jim Collier, and his brother Ken, a Lifetime Achievement Award for their tireless and uncompromising efforts to fight vote fraud and restore honest elections. Brent Beleskey of Ontario, Canada, director of the International Voter Coalition, will lay bare the international vote-rigging establishment, its sinister goals and its propped-up "false opposition" to fight computerized elections in order to misdirect citizens who are waking up. CURRENT PLANS Current plans are for The SPOTLIGHT to be represented by Tom Valen tine, popular host of Radio Free Amer ica, who conducted the radio interview that changed America on the vote fraud issue. The broadcast with Condit ex plained how he and others proved the vote fraud against Buchanan and the people of Dubuque, Iowa, was perpetrated by the networks and their exit-poll company, Voter News Service, with full cooperation of the Iowa GOP state headquarters. Since it is now effectively illegal for citizens to count or double-check the vote in 49 states, the situation could hardly be more serious. The once proud citizens of the United States are now treated no better by those running their government than Russians under communism or Third-Worlders under tin horn dictatorships. As communist ty rant Josef Stalin said: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything." "The army that emerges from this convention will take the message to the nation," Condit told The SPOTLIGHT. "We refuse to continue to live under this occupation government kept in power by big media lies, big media censorship, and computerized vote fraud. With a clear presidential alternative to Gush and Bore, the Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Convention will be the most important gathering of this election year. It's 1776 all over again." For more information, please contact Citizens for a Fair Vote at (513) 389-7700 or log onto www.vote-fraud. org. The Uncensored National Rumor=== http://www.rumormillnews.com P.O. Box 1784Aptos, CA95001 TEL: 831.462.3949FAX: 831.462.2545 FONT COLOR="#99"GIVE YOUR WIFE A BREAK!
[CTRL] Statement from Governor George W. Bush regarding the Henry Lee Lucas case
from: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.washlaw.edu/death/msg00318.html+bush+ executions+henry+leehl=en Click Here: A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.washlaw.edu/death/msg00318.html +bush+executions+henry+leehl=en"death penalty news-TEXAS: death penalty quo /A - Gee, the only guyout 120+ that George W Bush has "let off the hook" was Henry Lucas a confessed serial killer. Is there "cult" overtones . . . ? Quien Sabe? Om K - For Immediate Release June 26, 1998 Office of the Governor George W. Bush Statement from Governor George W. Bush regarding the Henry Lee Lucas case: "I take every death penalty case seriously and review each case carefully. The first question I ask in every case is whether there is any doubt about the individuals guilt or innocence. This is the first case since I have been the Governor when the answer to that question is yes. "The jury in this case had the opportunity to review much of the evidence which has been used to cast doubt on whether Henry Lee Lucas committed the crime for which he was sentenced to die. I am reluctant to second guess a verdict of a jury and the courts. However, the clemency process is intended as a fail safe for unusual or exceptional circumstances. "In this case, at the time it made its decision, the jury did not know and could not have known that Henry Lee Lucas had a pattern of lying and confessing to crimes that evidence later proved he did not commit. His confession, now recanted, was the only evidence which linked him to this crime. Todays knowledge about his pattern of lies raises doubt. "Henry Lee Lucas is unquestionably guilty of other despicable crimes for which he has been sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. However, I believe there is enough doubt about this particular crime that the State of Texas should not impose its ultimate penalty by executing him. I concur with the recommendation of the Board of Pardons and Paroles and hereby commute his sentence to life in prison, which shall begin after all five of his other life sentences are served. "As a supporter of the death penalty for those who commit horrible crimes, I feel a special obligation to make sure the State of Texas never executes a person for a crime they may not have committed. I take this action so that all Texans can continue to trust the integrity and fairness of our criminal justice system." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Tenebrous you spend nearly every day attacking people's beliefs and lately you have attacked me non stop, no matter what I post. You are generalising saying the 'Catholic Church' did this or that. What you mean is individuals in the Catholic Church in this place and time did murder these people. You can't say 'ALL CHRISTIANS' either. What do you think we are on this planet - sheep all thinking alike? Grab some history books please and learn to differentiate between what has occured in history by individuals who were in particular religions at the time. Catholics, in my opinion are not Christians, they follow the Virgin Mary I know I was brought up as one. She has just been voted in as Co Regent with God. So don't preach the hype, you are a product of your beliefs when young. I never believed Catholicism ever, no matter how many times it was rammed down my throat. It is possible to be an athiest even if you were indoctrinated year after year and this goes for other people. People can be Mormons, Baptists and many other religions and still not absorb the lies. You don't allow anyone to be 'freethinking' you are trying to indoctrinate with your vague generalisations about Christians, Catholics, Jews and now even 'White Europeans'. Go buy yourself the history of the world on CD and get some homework done please. Try not the get the English (UK) produced version either, that's biased as well. Better still travel to Europe and see that people are all different, and then maybe you won't divide Italians, Irish, French, Spanish into one umbrella - "Catholics" and come and tell us Catholics did something when I was in Europe so all are responsible. Nicky -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: I attack no beliefs, I only let these groups actions speak for themselves. The Catholic Church (not ALL Christians) have murdered millions over the years, as have White Europeans. It is just a fact. I present it to illustrate the true enemies of free thinking and free living man, and it isn't the Jews. Do you agree that the genocide in the USSR which began in 1917 under a Jewish-dominated Government accompanied by the abortion holocaust in that region is also fact? FWP On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote: There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole subject is invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives a damn. I do not want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. You are totally free, and have my blessing, to believe what you will. I, and everyone else here is free to challenge information brought here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the "Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and been used to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and property. Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite many attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.). No attacking of beliefs you say...but you can attack the beliefs of Christians even though you can't prove with certainty that they espoused those beliefs. Did the ADL pay you to post this? FWP A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert
IWhat is this message talking about? Alfred = ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert THIS MESSAGE POSTED TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 Subject: ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:38:47 -0600 From: spiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert as of 1345 hrs 22 June 2000. Numerous threats of violence/terrorism by "certain" elements of our society have led to this action. All units should take any necessary action to preserve hearth and home SHOULD the situation arise. Any and all terrorist actions should be reported to the Texas Department of Public Safety or the Texas Rangers immediately. Republic of Texas Defense Forces should take NO ACTION against terrorist activity unless said activity will result in the loss of lives. All Defense Forces will refrain from mobile activities for the time being. Further updates/orders will follow as needed. General Gene Ritter A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
In a message dated 00-06-23 01:12:11 EDT, you write: Catholics, in my opinion are not Christians, they follow the Virgin Mary I know I was brought up as one. She has just been voted in as Co Regent with God. So don't preach the hype, you are a product of your beliefs when young. I never believed Catholicism ever, no matter how many times it was rammed down my throat. It is possible to be an athiest even if you were indoctrinated year after year and this goes for other people. Right on, Nicky. This is a courageous and perceptive statement, and it is true. The Catholic Church is a surface cult of the Virgin Mary and the Pope, and a secret cult of Satanic forces, corporeal and incorporeal. Pope Pius XII was key to Hitler's rise, and key to maintaining world secrecy about the Holocaust. The Catholic Church is a key asset of the NWO. We live on a backwards planet - the Church of Christ is really the Church of the Devil, and so on. Alfred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Mary etc.
In a message dated 6/23/00 12:28:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right on, Nicky. This is a courageous and perceptive statement, and it is true. The Catholic Church is a surface cult of the Virgin Mary And I agree with both of you. The whole Mary thing is very weird. Hey, did Mother Teresa achieve sainthood yet? It figures she would have high honors in the Church - she successfully bilked thousands of millions/billions all the while ensuring the poor and ill were treated despicably. I DESPISE her memory, and boy is that ever an unpopular thing to say in public! Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert
Alfred, Agree it is vague. Would seem there are some events taking place in the ROT that is causing real concern within the Troops of the ROT Defense Forces. I can only speculate that it might have something to do with that recent raid by the ATF JBT's on that gun business (see recent Posts). Also it could, in my view, have something to do with all the scum illegally crossing the Border with the Terrorist and Disease threat that poses to our Security.. Bard - Original Message - From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: [CTRL] ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert IWhat is this message talking about? Alfred = ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert THIS MESSAGE POSTED TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 Subject: ALERT!!! All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:38:47 -0600 From: spiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] All units Republic of Texas Defense Forces placed on Orange Alert as of 1345 hrs 22 June 2000. Numerous threats of violence/terrorism by "certain" elements of our society have led to this action. All units should take any necessary action to preserve hearth and home SHOULD the situation arise. Any and all terrorist actions should be reported to the Texas Department of Public Safety or the Texas Rangers immediately. Republic of Texas Defense Forces should take NO ACTION against terrorist activity unless said activity will result in the loss of lives. All Defense Forces will refrain from mobile activities for the time being. Further updates/orders will follow as needed. General Gene Ritter A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Missionary Position : Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice
The Missionary Position : Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/185984054X/o/qid=961739249/sr=8-2/ref =aps_sr_b_1_4/002-9965160-5060825 Review: "In discussing this book with my friends and co-workers, I found that they reacted with the same "raised-eyebrow shock" that I did. But what we also shared was the same mis-quided, media driven vision of a person that was suposedly unquestionable. After reading this book, intently I might add, I wanted answers. I want to know where all the donations to Mother Teresa's organiztion has gone because it certainly hasn't gone to the poor. I want to know why Mother Teresa has posed in pictures with the wife of a dictator, with a man claiming to have a higher spiritual consciousness than Jesus himself, and with Charles Keating, the man who financially raped so many. Her actions and her words are not congruent and I am thankful to those who look at a situation and make the hard decisions. Christopher Hitchens is intelligent and courageous for writing this book and I am now a fan. The book was well written with sources that will withstand independant scrutiny. I don't know how anyone, after reading this book, could say that Mother Teresa is a saint." - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed/Mary etc. In a message dated 6/23/00 12:28:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right on, Nicky. This is a courageous and perceptive statement, and it is true. The Catholic Church is a surface cult of the Virgin Mary And I agree with both of you. The whole Mary thing is very weird. Hey, did Mother Teresa achieve sainthood yet? It figures she would have high honors in the Church - she successfully bilked thousands of millions/billions all the while ensuring the poor and ill were treated despicably. I DESPISE her memory, and boy is that ever an unpopular thing to say in public! Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
ThePiedPiper, This Website may be of interest to you re. Microsoft and monopolies: The Microsoft Defense Site http://microsoft.aynrand.org/ Bard - Original Message - From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy Let us examine the words Capitalism and Monopoly. To me Capitalism is to make a lot of money but does making a lot of money signify Monopoly? Communist make much of American Capitalism and would see Microsoft as the perfect example. Microsoft has made a lot of money by allowing the dissemination of education and thoughts! To me a monopoly the control of education and thoughts. Do you know that you can own as many American TV Broadcasting Companies as you want? You can own as many Newspapers and Magazines as you want. All three of the most popular trash rags at the checkout stand are owned by the same company. Our ideas / mindset molded by those that control education / new ideas / news. So who has the monopoly? *- the one that apparently "seems" to be making the most money or the ones that control the media. SO Microsoft for making money OR AOL / TimeWarner / Netscape / for control of the media? Is Capitalism or Monopoly the cuss word? American Capitalism OR Communist Monopoly? ThePiedPiper 22June2000 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report "Behind the mask of Respectability" exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 . A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled "Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith" exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADL's role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. "With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America," said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is American's leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] Grandaddy Magma Plume Found
Grandaddy Magma Plume Found By Aries Keck, Discovery.com News June 21, 2000 â Scientists believe they've located the largest river of superhot rock that may connect the center of the Earth with Hawaii. Cutting like a laser beam through the Earth's mantle, this plume breaks through the Earth's surface and releases tons of magma under the Pacific Ocean. As the magma cools into rock, it creates massive underwater volcanoes, the tips of which are the Hawaiian Islands. Scientists have believed that geologic "hot spots" â areas of long-term volcanism fueled by magma plumes â like this one run so deep into the mantle that the plume essentially stays still as the massive tectonic plate of the Earth's crust glides overhead. The plate drags the top layers of the cooled rock with it, dotting oceans with strings of islands. Plumes of the World But, until now, it's always been a theory. A team lead by Rainer Kind, a geophysicist from the Geo-Research Institute in Potsdam, Germany, reports in the journal Nature that it found the magma plume 86 miles right below the main island of Hawaii by measuring the echoes of earthquakes. Large earthquakes give off vibrations that can travel through or bounce off layers of rock deep in the Earth. By knowing exactly when an earthquake happens, and comparing it to the time it takes to "hear" the earthquake somewhere else, scientists can measure the depth and size of these rock layers. The seismic echoes indicate an area with a density consistent with magma directly under Hawaii. Because they've found it near an area of the Earth thought to be one of the Earth's hot spots, the researchers believe this mantle plume originates deep inside the Earth, at the edge of the Earth's molten core. Others aren't entirely convinced. "They're making this connection that requires a little bit of a leap of faith," said Yang Shen, a geophysicist at the University of Rhode Island. Shen says their data doesn't clearly show that the plume continues down into the lower mantle. Shen himself found the first evidence connecting a known hot spot in Iceland to a magma plume deep in the lower mantle. "(They have) a very significant finding," Shen said, adding that what's needed is more data clearly showing the origin and dimensions of the plume. Kind's team is taking more seismic readings from the ocean floor near Hawaii. But his team says that the heat levels already support a deep mantle plume. Measurements indicate the plume is 1,650 degrees Celsius. "This is about 300 degrees Celsius hotter than normal mantle at this depth and at least 100 degrees hotter than the Iceland plume," said co-author Stephan Sobolev of the Geo-Research Institute. "(This) confirms expectations of scientists that the Granddaddy plume, the nickname of the Hawaiian plume, is really the hottest plume in the world," said Sobolev. Previous | Next A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
