[CTRL] Test-Please Ignore
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[CTRL] Fwd: GOP News Views - December 15, 2000
To unsubscribe send "leave chuckmuth" in body of message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or hit reply with "remove" in subject or go to http://www.incor.com/l10003/newsletter.htm to remove X-ListMember: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Great Symbolism "The thing I would very much like to see is for President-elect George W. Bush to ride his horse into the White House on Jan. 21 and announce that this was the first time in eight years that a complete horse had been in the Oval Office. I cannot think of a better way to start the new presidency." - Charles Jacob, La Junta, (Colo.) Tribune-Democrat *** Ain't Buyin' the Victim Act (Regarding Gore's "concession" speech) "Just like a liberal would be, Gore is delighted to be seen as a victim in all of this. If he cared as much for this country as he does for himself, he would have sent a clear message to Jesse Jackson to stop his rhetoric. He should have publicly condemned Jackson's divisive statements along with his calls for future protests. Tonight Gore acted just as sincere as Clinton at a funeral." - Bridgette Roncone, President, Palomar College Republicans, San Diego, CA, 12/14/00 For You Kumbaya Republicans Wasn't Al Gore just LOVELY in his magnanimous concession speech? Remember how he told all his supporters that now was the time to unite in support of President George W. Bush. Well, his unity call certainly didn't last very long. Here's the "conciliatory" instructions Democrat Party boss and all-around weasel Joe Andrew released to his party faithful yesterday: "Now, for the first time in 48 years, the Republicans are going to claim that they control our entire government. So, what do we do now? We start by remembering that our Party speaks for the dreams, hopes and aspirations of millions of Americans. We will not quit on our values, our principles and our commitments. We will not quit at all. Republicans will be counting on us to step to the sidelines, tend to our wounds and mourn our defeat. But they will be wrong. That is why we must keep our Party strong. And you can help by making a secure, online, credit card donation to the DNC today... We must be prepared to advance our Party's values in a tough political environment. We must also be ready to react at a moment's notice when initiatives surface that will take America in the wrong direction." Oh, yeah. We can work with these vipers. Surely, they'll work with us in a bipartisan fashion for the good of the country. In a pig's eye. - Chuck Muth, Editor This Is What D's Mean By "Unity" "(Nevada) Senate Democratic leader Dina Titus ... said (Gore's) speech was 'so grounded in history, so gracious' that it surpassed her expectations. When people see that speech, they're going to think: 'Damn, I wish I had gone and voted for him,' Titus said. Bush's speech was 'extremely simplistic,' Titus said. 'There was no word in it over two syllables.' She was totally unimpressed and called it 'just some kind of political pabulum, like lines you'd see in a mailer.'" - Las Vegas Review Journal, 12/14/00 Don't Blink ... Or You'll Miss the "Honeymoon" "Mr. Bush won't enjoy the traditional honeymoon granted presidents. Democrats won't wait long to unsheath the long knives. Egged on by their trial lawyer and union allies, they may begin by trying to block Bush cabinet choices for the Justice and Labor Departments. His tax cut will be declared dead on arrival, at least until a recession becomes obvious." - Columnist John Fund, Wall Street Journal, 12/14/00 Media Double Standard ... Again "Watching the news channels for the past 36 hours has been fascinating. The Professional Chattering Class is abuzz about what George W. is going to have to do to placate the Democrats in the Congress. Listening to them, if Bush doesn't adopt - verbatim - the Democrats' Congressional agenda then there's going to be some big trouble, boy. Imagine, for a moment, that the roles were reversed and President-elect Al Gore had to deal with a Congress this closely divided. Do you really think there would be a constant media drumbeat of 'What does Al Gore have to do to appease the Republicans?' Me neither." - Rich Galen, "Mullings," 12/14/00 Getting Off On the Wrong Foot "Gore's gone. Clinton's on his way. So now it's time to focus our attention on the policies of the future. Last night I saw the future. I did not like what I saw and heard. And I think it's time for the American people to tell President-elect George W. Bush that he's headed down the wrong road. ... What was wrong with this first speech by the president-elect? Most of all, what I find repugnant is the fact that he is saying what he thinks Americans want to hear. In other words, he is pandering. Haven't we had enough pandering in the
[CTRL] Fwd: {slick-d} Intolerance Identified Morris Dees The Southern Poverty Law Center, by Karen
http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.50/intolerance_identified.htm Intolerance Identified Morris Dees The Southern Poverty Law Center by Karen De Coster "Hate-watching" has become an enterprising sport in America. As so-called hate-watch groups and organizations spring up all across the country, they are venerated for their courage and unwavering defense of minority classes. They are touted as the great overseers of the civil rights granted to minorities by government. For persons and organizations that wish to become powerful and recognizable to mainstream America, hate-watching is a clever way to earn a secure living. They can do so under the false flag of protecting minority identity and opportunity, though crying hate has become the call to arms for the protected classes against traditional culture. Who are the true intolerants? Are they fervent Christians? Or is it the so-called watchdog groups that profit from the anger and backlash of protected classes who are themselves strangled by government policies? The most notable of such prevaricators is the not-so-impecunious Southern Poverty Law Center, headed by lawyer Morris Dees. Mr. Dees is a leftist icon of sorts. He manages to reap gorgeous profits from his not-for- profit business through website terrorism and hyper-emotional junk-mail campaigns. The SPLC is the lead aggressor against right-wing organizations that are ideologically unappealing to Mr. Dees and his fellow intolerants. What SPLC does is use its government-approved coercive powers to ruin businesses, smear reputations, and try to force people to participate in their farcical diversity movement through "monitoring," while exposing alleged fascists, white-supremicists, and even (gasp!) pro-Confederates. These accusations are gathered in the SPLC's Intelligence Report, a scuttlebutt rag that generates severe intolerance against any ideological group that doesn't agree with its pinko views. One of the latest hits from the Intelligence Report has been directed toward the Ludwig von Mises Institute of Auburn, Alabama, an educational organization dedicated to Austrian economics and classical liberalism. Such dedicated passions toward education and the advancement of intellectual spirit apparently are not sanctioned by the SPLC's intolerant bunch. Another organization that has come under fire is the League of the South, an organization inspired by the political theory of self-government, especially with regard to local rule. As if smearing the Mises Institute and the League of the South weren't enough, the SPLC attempts to link the two, in effect, implying that any educational institution in the South with libertarian-like views must be composed of Confederate sympathizers, and therefore, is racist and hate-filled. Victimology is an art at SPLC. The past deeds of Morris Dees sensationalize race relations and patriotic uprisings, while encouraging deep fear in individuals who see themselves as victims of an unfair political system. Without producing this fear and victimological thinking, the center could not possibly raise the huge funds necessary for such a tireless spy machine. The SPLC is exactly such a contrivance, in fact. It is also a newspeak machine that does not use logical reasoning or philosophical arguments to make its case, but rather, emotional attacks that bait the weak-minded, and seduce those looking for monetary "justice." Organizations like the SPLC are empowered by government agencies in the civil rights sector, and they are supported by a leftist media that allows them unchallenged on-air exposures of purported right-wing intolerance groups. HBO recently ran a cable special entitled Hate.com: Extremists, which focused on Internet groups that don't fall within the tolerance guidelines set forth by hate-watchers. Of course, Mr. Dees and his Intelligence Report editor Mark Potok took center stage in this documentary, pointing out how extremist, right-wing America, with the famed Turner Diaries as its bible, advances the cause of white people and terrorizes oppressed minorities. The SPLC seems to take special pride in the fact that it can use tolerance education as the carrot, and draw upon its Northern liberal junk-mail base for its attack on all the evils of "extremist" America. It's interesting how the National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) gets flagged for hate, while the NAACP is a perfectly legit organization. Throughout the HBO piece, Messrs. Potok and Dees appear against an impressive backdrop of stately bookshelves in fancy offices. However, when a self-styled racist appears on screen, his backdrop is the SPLC's favorite target: the Confederate flag. This is a purposeful attempt, of course, to smear the symbol of the noble causes of Southern secession and personal liberty. The HBO documentary treats religious-based organizations in such a way as to propagate the notion that all hardcore religious activism is "Aryan" in
[CTRL] WP: For Government, Wen Ho Lee Mystery Deepens
-Caveat Lector- For Government, Wen Ho Lee Mystery Deepens By Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 15, 2000 ; Page A02 FBI crime laboratory and Energy Department experts have determined that none of more than 10 cassette tapes retrieved from the Los Alamos County Landfill are the infamous tapes of U.S. nuclear weapons secrets made by Wen Ho Lee, Clinton administration officials said yesterday. The finding raises fresh doubts about the Taiwanese American scientist's assertion that he tossed the tapes into the trash at Los Alamos National Laboratory in January 1999. But, officials were quick to point out, they have no physical evidence to disprove Lee's story, either. When federal prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain that let Lee out of jail in September, they thought they were trading his freedom for answers. But the mysteries of the case have only deepened, and investigators from the FBI and Energy Department are reluctantly concluding that they may never know what happened, officials close to the investigation said. After questioning Lee under oath behind closed doors for 10 days in recent weeks and after digging through a giant pile of trash, the FBI still is not sure why he made the tapes or exactly what he did with them. Moreover, investigators have determined that Lee made at least 10 trips to Taiwan over the past 25 years, many more than they had realized. They also have raised their estimate of the number of tapes he made from the classified computer system at the laboratory's X Division, where Lee worked and where most of America's nuclear weapons were designed. Originally, there were said to be seven missing tapes, based on notations found in Lee's notebooks. Now, the FBI believes there may be several times that number; Lee has said he cannot remember exactly how many he made, according to officials familiar with the investigation. Efforts to reach Lee's lawyers for comment were unsuccessful. Under the terms of Lee's plea agreement, the 10 days of questioning granted the government are over; the only step left for the government is to administer a polygraph or "lie detector" exam. "If he shows deception" on the fundamental questions of why he made the tapes and whether he destroyed them, a senior official said, "we are right back where we were when we first discovered what he had done." Over 40 hours on 70 days in 1993, 1994 and 1997, Lee downloaded 1.4 gigabytes of data, the equivalent of about 400,000 pages, from the secure computer system at Los Alamos, according to the FBI. Often working on nights and weekends, and circumventing security safeguards, he moved the data to his office desktop computer and to pocket-sized tapes that look like 8-mm videocassettes, a bit thicker than conventional audio cassettes. He then made copies of some of those tapes. In the recent FBI questioning, sources said, Lee has steadfastly maintained that he made the tapes as a safeguard against computer failures. Other scientists at Los Alamos have questioned the plausibility of that explanation, noting that there were simpler, authorized ways to protect data from computer crashes, such as backing up the files on hard drives. Lee also has assured investigators that he never removed any of the tapes from the laboratory or showed them to anyone. A few days after losing his security clearance in December 1999, he has reportedly said, he threw the tapes into a Dumpster outside the lab's X Division. Based on that information, FBI agents began searching the county landfill in late November. Using records of when trash was dumped into various parts of the landfill, they isolated a section of the site and combed through tons of garbage with rakes. By last Friday, the agents had found more than 10 computer tapes, which were sent to the forensic laboratory at FBI headquarters for analysis. Officials said yesterday that the tapes were not the ones Lee made. Lee was investigated by the FBI from 1996 to 1999 as a suspect in the loss of some data about America's latest nuclear warhead, the W-88, to China. But he denied ever passing information to any foreign country, and he was never charged with espionage. The discovery of his downloading came later, after he had been fired from the laboratory for security violations in March 1999. At the time, Capitol Hill was in a political furor over allegations of Chinese espionage. Lee was indicted and held in solitary confinement on 59 felony counts, including alleged violations of the Atomic Energy Act that carried the threat of life imprisonment. The case against Lee collapsed even before trial, however. Expert witnesses questioned whether the information he had downloaded really represented the "crown jewels" of the U.S. nuclear program, and defense lawyers showed that the lead FBI agent on the case had given faulty testimony. When Lee pleaded guilty in September to a single felony count, a federal trial judge not only freed him,
[CTRL] [Fwd: [Activist_List] New Study on Global Corporate Power]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [Activist_List] New Study on Global Corporate Power Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:10:15 -0500 From: "Jay Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Activist Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@sunshine.hcr.net; Activist Mailing List - http://activist.cjb.net === ListBot Sponsor == Dial 800-555-TELL. Instant updates - One free call. Sports, stocks, driving directions... more! http://www.tellme.com/signin/register.gsp?src=engage=11 == This is a press release I picked up from the Institute for Policy Studies Web site: www.ips-dc.org It has some extremely staggering statistics that ought to be spread around to the more general public. The full study can be read (and printed out) at their Web site in PDF format with an Adobe Acrobat reader. best wishes, jay http://www.neravt.com/left/ ** Research Institute Releases Study on Corporate Power on 1st Anniversary of Seattle Protests Study Reinforces Public Distrust of Corporations On the first anniversary of the Seattle protests that shut down negotiations of the World Trade Organization, the Institute for Policy Studies is releasing a study that shows: Of the world's 100 largest economic entities, 51 are now corporations and 49 are countries; The world's top 200 corporations account for over a quarter of economic activity on the globe while employing less than one percent of its workforce. According to study co-author Sarah Anderson, "The Seattle protestors expressed their anger at institutions like the WTO for elevating the interests of large corporations over everyone else. We analyzed just how powerful the world's biggest firms are and our findings are staggering." Other key findings include: The Top 200 corporations' combined sales are bigger than the combined economies of all countries minus the biggest 10. --The Top 200s' combined sales are 18 times the size of the combined annual income of the 1.2 billion people (24 percent of the total world population) living in "severe" poverty. Between 1983 and 1999, the profits of the Top 200 firms grew 362.4 percent, while the number of people they employ grew by only 14.4 percent. A full 5 percent of the Top 200s' combined workforce is employed by Wal-Mart, a company notorious for union-busting and widespread use of part-time workers to avoid paying benefits. U.S. corporations dominate the Top 200, with 82 slots (41 percent of the total). Japanese firms are second, with only 41 slots. Of the U.S.corporations on the list, 44 did not pay the full standard 35 percent federal corporate tax rate during the period 1996-1998. Seven of the firms (including the world's largest, General Motors) actually paid less than zero in federal income taxes in 1998 (because of rebates). Between 1983 and 1999, the share of total sales of the Top 200 made up by service sector corporations increased from 33.8 percent to 46.7 percent. To receive a paper version. contact Sarah Anderson, tel: 202/234-9382 or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The most absurd economic system ever invented.
-Caveat Lector- Bob Stokes wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/11/00 3:17:04 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Farmers can't earn a living. Nurses and trash collectors, can't earn a living wage even though your health depends on them doing their jobs. Teachers struggle to keep their families afloat. Then you have CEOs who get million dollar bonuses even though their company looses money. Mediocre actors like Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, and Arnold Swartzejrgh make 20 million per picture. And then you have this obscenity... Managers make the big bucks. Managers who can't do your job. Managers who spread the false information that you can't see the big picture. Managers who manage to steal a portion of your earned wages and make your job harder. The higher up they are the more money they steal. The higher up managers know even less about your job. Manager = thiefPoliticians = Manager Politicians = thief Regards, Bob Stokes You go girl! J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- I saw the same kind of drivel come from the Fundamentalist Christians. Once you're superstitious and paranoid, there no limit to what nonsensical drivel you can find believable. What's interesting to me me is how fearful people become when someone threatens their belief system. No matter how stupid and ridiculous and impossible that belief system is, you don't wan't to lose it. Pretty sick. Thank god I'm an atheist. Joshua2 == T Nohava wrote: -Caveat Lector- Amen Duncan! I could really "go off" on this one but I've seen too many narrow minded people here in the 3-4 years I've been on this list and don't care to engage in any debate here. There's no question though...this broad has some serious toys in her head! Great Magazine!!! Not subscribed anymore but never fail to pick one up while I'm at Barnes Noble. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nexusmagazine Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement -Caveat Lector- This is an excellent site for those who know nothing about the dangers to our society coming from the New Age movement and those who wish to learn more about this very extensive topic. Hannah Newman, a Jewish researcher who lives in Israel, recently sent out a notice about her site as follows: "My new, greatly expanded and updated research on New Age antisemitism is now on line. Go to: http://homestead.virtualjerusalem.com/antisemitism/index.html" This is some of the most unbelievable crap I have ever read. This is on a par with the 2 + 2 = 5 Jewish Conspiracy theories out there, except now we are expected to believe that the 'new age movement' is a coherent, organised plan. I feel qualified to comment here, as I helped push the new age movement in Australia. I am not anti-semitic, anti-jewish, or anti-anything. I believed that the Christian option was lacking, and I wanted to explore yoga, meditation and other philosophies. This bimbo is expecting us to believe that virtually all non-mainstream religions are part of a sinister plan to wipe out Jews. Talk about paranoid - it would be funny if it weren't so scary that people out there believe such drivel. I put to you all that this woman is part of an evil plan to isolate and vilify anyone not part of an 'established' religion. Established religions control their followers via their belief systems, but the rest of us are now 'new agers', to be isolated and vilified for our crime of not 'belonging' to a major belief system. I have been to Findhorn Community, I have lived on communes, I have organised festivals and activities, conferences, and published magazines, all promoting peaceful ideology via diet, attitude and environment. I KNOW the new age movement. It is totally disorganised, incoherent, and until Shirley Maclaine and Oprah Winfrey came along, it was lacking in credibility and viability. There are certainly sinister elements that come along and wave their flag under the new age movement's banner. In a world facing fragmentation and uncertainty, the last thing we need is more rubbish of this calibre. Hannah, there is no Jewish conspiracy to wipe out non-Jews, and there is no New Age conspiracy to wipe out Jews. You should go out and smell the roses and get a life! Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL]
Re: [CTRL] This list should be warned
-Caveat Lector- From: "nexusmagazine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] David is a zionist. When he makes anti-semitic or anti-catholic statements, he is merely drawing out any sympathisers lurking on the list. Their names, email handles etc are dutifully noted down and reported to whoever he runs to for lollies. When he attacks NEXUS, those who rush to my defence are also duly noted. This phenomenon happens on many many lists. Your comments, sexual preferences, political leanings, downloaded files, sites visited, emails sent are ALL duly logged onto your file. Big Brother has had me on his list way before the advent of the internet, so I'm not duly worried that I continue to be put on one list or another... ;-) But you are correct in your assessment that many of these cockroaches are trolling for names... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: The fact of the matter is that thinking for oneself is the very core of what it means to be an anarchist. You, on the other hand, let dead men think for you. My recomendation: give it up; think for yourself. Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles you've argued in this thread were also of "dead men" -- and fellow anarchists -- Lysander Spooner for one. Simply because one quotes "dead men" doesn't mean they haven't thought it out for themselves, (only later to find that they have come to similar conclusions as "dead men"). Nice fallacy, though. I've seen J2 effectively use it here on occasion as well. --- BTW, Jesus (of Is-Ra-El) was about as "liberal" as Horus and Osiris of Egypt, Mithra and Zoroaster of Persia, Krishna of India, the Buddha, and so on and so forth. All seem to be cast of the same (concealed) astro-theological/entheogenic mold. The name may have changed, the song is still the same. MERRY CHRISTMAS! http://www.bluehoney.org/Xmas.htm http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=843989 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Massive Voter Fraud?
-Caveat Lector- ELECTION 2000 Congress to establish voter-fraud task force Nationwide investigation will 'put people in jail,' By Kenneth R. Timmerman © 2000 Western Journalism Center http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_repack/20001215_xrpkg_ congress_t.shtml House Speaker Dennis J. Hastert is putting together a task force to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the November 7 election that will be nationwide in scope and will "put people in jail," according to a top member of the Republican leadership. Hastert initially asked outgoing Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill, to chair the task force, but Hyde says he turned it down. Hyde is the leading candidate to become the new chairman of the House International Relations Committee, in front of two moderate Republicans, Jim Leach and Doug Bereuter. Republicans will be looking at allegations of voter fraud from across the country, not just in Florida. "In Madison, Wisconsin, we had homeless shelters with 20 beds where 200 people voted," said a top member of the leadership, who asked to remain unnamed for this report. "In Wisconsin, you can just show up at the polls on election day and vote without being registered by saying that you have just moved into the precinct. In some predominantly Democratic precincts in Texas, we had 125 percent of registered voters cast ballots." The voter-fraud task force will also examine allegations that the Department of Defense shut down mail call for U.S. military vessels on overseas deployment two weeks before the election, to prevent absentee ballots from being delivered to U.S. Navy personnel or returned by them to their home districts. Sam Wright, a retired U.S. Navy captain and lawyer who advocates a major overhaul of the military voting system, believes that 200,000 members of the military and their family get systematically disenfranchised. "That's based on the survey that DoD does after every presidential election," said Wright. "I am now coming to believe that the 200,000 figure is a gross understatement. The DoD survey only shows what military members know." Motor voters And in Baltimore, Chicago and Los Angeles, allegations are surfacing of roving bands of voters who were taken in buses from precinct to precinct to vote in place of registered voters who had moved away or who had never voted before. "We are relatively certain people were being taken from polling place to polling place and allowed to vote," said Republican national committeewoman from Maryland, Ellen Sauerbrey. How can someone vote in place of another? Actually, it's fairly simple -- for the fraudulently inclined. In many states, including Maryland, it is illegal to ask voters to present identification, on the pretext that would be construed as voter intimidation. Election officials in Maryland and in many other states are allowed to ascertain a voter's true identity by asking only for their name, address and date of birth. "But in practice, there's no check whatsoever," Sauerbrey said. "The election judge will prompt you by asking if you live at such and such address, if you were born at such and such date. This makes it easier for one person to vote in the name of another, simply by mimicking the signature on the voter card." Repeated attempts by Republicans in Maryland to pass legislation that would require voters to present identification at the polls have been blocked by the Democratic majority in the state's House of Delegates. No citizenship checks The motor voter rules (known officially as the National Voter Registration Act of 1993) went into effect in January 1995, and required states to allow anyone applying for a drivers license to register to vote at the same time. The problem, admitted board of election officials in several Maryland counties, is that no proof of citizenship is required, thus inviting non-citizens to vote by fraud. An elections-board official in Montgomery County, Md., who declined to be identified, acknowledged there was "no cross-checking" to see if people who registered to vote at the Motor Vehicle Agency are U.S. citizens. "We don't require them to present ID to vote." When individuals register to vote at the Motor Vehicle Agency, they are required to sign a form stating they are U.S. citizens "under penalty of perjury." However, those forms are only delivered to the MVA in English, whereas many non-English speakers regularly apply for drivers licenses and, by extension, register to vote. Spanish-language voter registration forms are sent out with state recruiters, who sign up new voters through a wide variety of state welfare agencies, the official added. She could not explain why Spanish-language voter registration forms would be needed for naturalized U.S. citizens, who are required to pass an English-language test as part of their naturalization examination. Maryland has "no way to check" if non-citizens are voting, state supervisor of elections Linda Lamone said. "We
[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Attacks Escalating - Arafat Agrees To More Negotiations with Barak
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISRAELI SETTLERS ATTACK BRITISH DIPLOMAT WITH ARMY WATCHING ISRAELI ARMY ATTACKS KHAN YUNIS - Eyewitness Report AT SAME TIME ARAFAT AGREES TO RESTART NEGOTIATIONS WITH BARAK GOVT MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 12/15: Israel's war against the Palestinians may be leading to the end of the Arafat Regime, "the Palestinian Authority" may be ended in Gaza and calculated leaks to the media to this effect have be used to put still further pressure on Arafat to agree to something or find himself exiled for what would in all likelihood be his final time. The situation as it is developing could even result in large numbers of Palestinians being pushed out of the West Bank and Gaza if and when the excuse presents itself, or is manufactured. The old strategy of Jordan becoming "the Palestinian State" remains lurking, especially should Ariel Sharon's power continue to increase. This is the military option. At the very same time the Israelis are preparing this greater war option, they are also furiously pursuing an opposite strategy to see if they can entice (i.e., force) Yasser Arafat into some kind of political deal and to use Bill Clinton in his last weeks in office to engrave this whole Oslo/Camp David arrangement on the world's consciousness. This is the diplomatic option. Of course lying behind all the manuevering at this point is a desperate attempt to keep Ehud Barak as Prime Minister. Everyone, Arafat, the Arab "client regimes", the Americans, and the Europeans are all lining up to bring about this outcome when the Israelis vote in just a month and a half now. Arafat himself is in a political vice that is being twisted and turned more and more distorting his legitimacy even further and creating the potential for even greater violence and destruction ahead. As reported in today's Ha'aretz: "In his diplomatic contacts in recent days, foreign minister Ben-Ami sought to examine the Palestinian willingness to advance beyond the positions the sides reached at the end of the Camp David talks. One of the formulations is "Jerusalem in return for the refugees," another Israeli attempt to set Jerusalem's boundaries among Arab and Israeli neighborhoods, which would in fact involve a declared Israeli concession of all Arab neighborhoods, alongside Arab recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the other parts of greater Jerusalem, in return for a Palestinian agreement not to insist on the full and immediate implementation of the right of return of Arab refugees from 1948. "Military Intelligence takes the view that among Arafat's list of priorities, Jerusalem indeed takes precedence over the refugee issue, but that a solution in Jerusalem must include Palestinian control over the Temple Mount. From this assessment, it can be understood that attaining a settlement in the few weeks remaining to both Barak and Clinton is mainly dependent on an Israeli decision to make significant concessions beyond previous positions, in addition to giving up the demand that the renewal of negotiations must be conditional upon the cessation of Palestinian violence and incitement. [Ha'aretz Bulletin - 15 December] BEN-AMI AND ARAFAT AGREE TO RESTART NEGOTIATIONS By Aluf Benn, Ha'aretz Diplomatic Correspondent and agencies At the close of a four-hour meeting, Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami and Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat agreed to restart next week negotiations on a final status agreement between Palestinians and Israel. Ben-Ami called the meeting "exceptional, considering the current situation." Both sides agreed on a joint effort to both implement the Sharm al-Sheikh understandings reached in a summit in October, and to bring a stop to the wave of violent clashes and attacks that have continued since late September. Though no joint statement was made after the meeting, held at the Erez checkpoint between Israel and the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Authority Information Minister Yasser Abed Rabbo, a participant in the meeting, said all issues were discussed, including the situation on the ground, where violence continues. A Palestinian statement made at the end of the meeting said Arafat is ready for U.S. involvement on the highest levels, and is interested in reaching an agreement before the White House changes its administration in January, though Palestinian Minister for Planning and Cooperation Nabil Sha'ath said it
Re: [CTRL] Massive Voter Fraud?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/00 8:14:47 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Republicans will be looking at allegations of voter fraud from across the country, not just in Florida. I feel so reassured now. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Supreme Court for Dummies
-Caveat Lector- Interesting... this is a forward I have cross-posted from another list...I am interested in opinion on this. ~ By Mark H. Levine, Attorney at Law Q: I'm not a lawyer and I don't understand the recent Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore. Can you explain it to me? A: Sure. I'm a lawyer. I read it. It says Bush wins, even if Gore got the most votes. Q: But wait a second. The US Supreme Court has to give a reason, right? A: Right. Q: So Bush wins because hand-counts are illegal? A: Oh no. Six of the justices (two-thirds majority) believed the hand-counts were legal and should be done. Q: Oh. So the justices did not believe that the hand-counts would find any legal ballots? A. Nope. The five conservative justices clearly held (and all nine justices agreed) "that punch card balloting machines can produce an unfortunate number of ballots which are not punched in a clean, complete way by the voter." So there are legal votes that should be counted but can't be. Q: Oh. Does this have something to do with states' rights? Don't conservatives love that? A: Generally yes. These five justices have held that the federal government has no business telling a sovereign state university it can't steal trade secrets just because such stealing is prohibited by law. Nor does the federal government have any business telling a state that it should bar guns in schools. Nor can the federal government use the equal protection clause to force states to take measures to stop violence against women. Q: Is there an exception in this case? A: Yes, the Gore exception. States have no rights to have their own state elections when it can result in Gore being elected President. This decision is limited to only this situation. Q: C'mon. The Supremes didn't really say that. You're exaggerating. A: Nope. They held "Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, or the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities." Q: What complexities? A: They don't say. Q: I'll bet I know the reason. I heard Jim Baker say this. The votes can't be counted because the Florida Supreme Court "changed the rules of the election after it was held." Right? A. Dead wrong. The US Supreme Court made clear that the Florida Supreme Court did not change the rules of the election. But the US Supreme Court found the failure of the Florida Court to change the rules was wrong. Q: Huh? A: The Legislature declared that the only legal standard for counting vote is "clear intent of the voter." The Florida Court was condemned for not adopting a clearer standard. Q: I thought the Florida Court was not allowed to change the Legislature's law after the election. A: Right. Q: So what's the problem? A: They should have. The US Supreme Court said the Florida Supreme Court should have "adopt[ed] adequate statewide standards for determining what is a legal vote" Q: I thought only the Legislature could "adopt" new law. A: Right. Q: So if the Court had adopted new standards, I thought it would have been overturned. A: Right. You're catching on. Q: If the Court had adopted new standards, it would have been overturned for changing the rules. And if it didn't, it's overturned for not changing the rules. That means that no matter what the Florida Supreme Court did, legal votes could never be counted. A: Right. Next question. Q: Wait, wait. I thought the problem was "equal protection," that some counties counted votes differently from others. Isn't that a problem? A: It sure is. Across the nation, we vote in a hodgepodge of systems. Some, like the optical-scanners in largely Republican-leaning counties record 99.7% of the votes. Some, like the punchcard systems in largely Democratic-leaning counties record only 97% of the votes. So approximately 3% of Democratic votes are thrown in the trash can. Q: Aha! That's a severe equal-protection problem!!! A: No it's not. The Supreme Court wasn't worried about the 3% of Democratic ballots thrown in the trashcan in Florida. That "complexity" was not a problem. Q: Was it the butterfly ballots that violated Florida law and tricked more than 20,000 Democrats to vote for Buchanan or Gore and Buchanan. A: Nope. The Supreme Court has no problem believing that Buchanan got his highest, best support in a precinct consisting of a Jewish old age home with Holocaust survivors, who apparently have changed their mind about Hitler. Q: Yikes. So what was the serious equal protection problem? A: The problem was neither the butterfly ballot nor the 3% of Democrats (largely African-American) disenfranchised. The problem is that somewhat less than .005% of the ballots may have been determined under slightly different standards because judges sworn to uphold the law and doing their best to accomplish the legislative mandate of "clear intent of the voter" may have a slightly opinion about the voter's intent. Q: Hmmm. OK, so if those votes are thrown out,
[CTRL] Fwd: [FredOnEverything] Anxiety
-Caveat Lector-
So everyone is tired of talking about Jesus' possible
political association.
Here is an interesting forward that could open a whole
new can of worms from Fred (Washington Post Guy I
believe).
Are women starting a whole new rash of conspiracies
like Fred claims?
--- Frederick Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Frederick Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:55:50 -0500
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FredOnEverything] Anxiety
Anxiety
The Man Beneath The Bed
When Shadows Twist Through Medieval Twilight
Hooboy. I'm trying to understand the
truculence toward men that is now the default
position of American women -- the chip on the
shoulder, the blisterish sensitivity, the vigilant
search for litigable slights. It's tiresome. It's
unwholesome. It approaches medieval dementia. What
did men do?
Nothing, I submit.
Ponder the following phenomena:
To begin with, there is the hysteria on
campus about rape. Across the country, college girls
hold nocturnal processions to "Take Back The Night."
Overwrought co-eds tell each other to applause that
sexual assault waits around every corner, under
every tree. Rape, they insist with enormous
satisfaction, is a constant danger. All boys are to
be feared.
Princeton among other former institutions of
learning has blue rape-lights to illuminate any spot
on campus where a bogey-rapist might lurk. College
boys are often forced to go through anti-rape hazing
resembling the brainwashing engaged in by religious
cults. College girls apparently live in a
demon-ridden mental landscape drawn by Hieronymus
Bosch.
And yet the actual incidence of rape by
Caucasian males -- who are uniquely the targets of
the hysteria, despite being far less inclined toward
rape than are various minorities -- is very low. As
we will see, most of the distaff hysteria involves
(a) beliefs that are demonstrably false, and (b)
profound sexual anxiety.
Next, consider the plague of eating
disorders -- anorexia and bulimia -- that seem
common among women, but hardly existed forty years
ago. These are imagined to be the fault of men, who
are thought to want emaciated women, and therefore
in some way to force women to starve themselves.
Again, the false premises -- men do not want stick
figures, nor force women not to eat -- and again,
sexual anxiety.
Then there's the recent wave, finally being
slapped down by the courts, of "repressed-memory"
lawsuits ("induced memory" is more accurate) in
which women, usually in their thirties, decide that
they were raped by their fathers. They supposedly
repress the memories until a therapist helpfully
recovers them. Typically there is no corroborating
evidence, no reason to believe that incest actually
occurred, or that memories in fact are repressed. As
always, the false premise, and the undercurrent of
sexual anxiety.
Closely related are the reports, usually by
women, of suddenly remembrance of being forced to
engage as children in satanic rituals. In these they
recall being forced to sacrifice babies, or being
sexually violated in strange ways. There is never
any supporting evidence. Like the incest stories,
these mental aberrations are statistically rare, but
based on falsehood, and rife with sexual fear.
Next consider the widespread notion that
women are unremittingly victimized by men --
sexually harassed, underpaid, abused, denigrated,
stalked, beaten, undervalued, everything but stuffed
and mounted over the fireplace. But in fact American
women are not oppressed. The charges are just
ritualized paranoia.
The preoccupation with sexual harassment is
salient. As with the nonexistent rapists on campus,
nonexistent harassment is seen everywhere. Did the
guy in the next desk have a photo of his girlfriend
in a bathing suit? He's demeaning women. Did Bob use
the "F" word, which women haven't heard and never
use? He's creating a hostile environment. An
off-color story? Virtual rape. Harassment must be
detected everywhere and suspected everywhere else --
rooted out, punished, exorcised.
This is nuts. Somebody needs to say it's
nuts.
We tend to think of feminism as asserting
that women are as strong and able as men. The more
profound current beneath the bravado is that women
are weak, helpless, and threatened. They aren't, of
course: As a matter of everyday observation, women
function perfectly well, show no signs of fear, and
seem quite able to take care of themselves. The
entire enterprise of radical feminism, like its
component sub-hysterias, is based on beliefs that
are easily discovered to be foolish. And on sexual
anxiety.
What is going on?
A guess: Women have just undergone, as men
have not, a profound change in their relation to
society and to men. The change has
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Mining Web article publicizes GATA lawsuit
4:47p EDT Thursday, December 14, 2000 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Our lawsuit with Reg Howe against the collusive suppression of the price of gold is becoming the sensation of the gold world. An article at www.theminingweb.com does not predict our success, but it describes the lawsuit in detail and has some nice things to say about GATA, so it may help spread the word. You can find the article here: www.mips1.net/MGGold.nsf/Current/4225685F0043D1B2852569B40081476A? OpenDocument CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/0/_/126/_/976831027/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] Fwd: expect heroin this time....thats what happened in FL after Jebby
well if the coke will not work for them to grow their law enforcement now, expect heroin this timethats what happened in FL after Jebby the mutt its a matter of public recordsome straight up government were watching for the coke because they had the warnings and all of a sudden heroin became the problem I think thats what they will do this time cause they sure can't do the coke too many people know...but we know they have the smack connex in a big way too b
[CTRL] Fwd: A CIA Nazi Recruit in Jewish Drag
London Times FRIDAY DECEMBER 15 2000 SS killer was given new life as a Jew Alan Hall on the death camp officer who was recruited by the CIA THE secret life of a former Nazi war criminal, who spied for America¹s Central Intelligence Agency after the Second World War in return for a fake Jewish identity, was disclosed yesterday. The story of how Günter Reinemer, an S.S. lieutenant who commanded death squads at the Treblinka concentration camp, escaped the death penalty because of the CIA is told in a documentary to be screened in Germany next month. Reinemer was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Jews at Treblinka, the first concentration camp in Poland. More than a million Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto were killed at Treblinka. Given the identity Hans-Georg Wagner by the CIA, he later married a Jewish woman, lived in Israel and was buried in a Jewish cemetery. His story might have been buried with him had he not felt the need to confess in 1988, shortly before he apparently committed suicide. His statements form the basis of the documentary Wagner¹s Confession. The role of the American intelligence service in the days after the war has still to be fully explained. With the Third Reich vanquished, America sensed that it needed every ally available to fight the coming Cold War and was not too particular about its recruits. The CIA recruited Nazi scientists and much smaller fry, such as Reinemer, by offering the choice: work for the US or almost certainly forfeit your life at a war crimes tribunal. Reinemer¹s journey from war criminal to respected Jewish businessman was exposed only in the final days of his life because of suspicions over his financial trustworthiness. In 1988, as Wagner, he was living in Caracas, Venezuela, when he secured a job as consultant engineer to the Jewish-owned Venergia submarine battery manufacturer. There were some on the board who doubted the motives, and the fiscal propriety, of Wagner, as money went missing. That led to the appointment of Klaus-Dieter Matschke of the KDM company in Frankfurt, which specialises in the prevention of industrial espionage. Wagner was arrested by the Venezuelan secret service in August 1988 and tortured with electrical cattle prods after the company voiced its suspicions about him. Herr Matschke persuaded the authorities to let him take over. At first Reinemer stuck to his story that he was a Jewish businessman. ³Then, after about a week of questioning him, I threw a thick bundle of files on to my desk and just shouted at him: Name, rank, last military assignment.¹ ³Perhaps the tone of command, perhaps the weariness from the past few days, perhaps a need to break with the past I don¹t know what it was, but he looked up and said: Reinemer, SS Death¹s-Head Division, Treblinka.¹ It was the start of a comprehensive confession.² For the next week Reinemer agreed to dictate his story to Herr Matschke. Reinemer, born in Dresden in 1918, told how he joined the Nazi party and later the SS and was attached to Treblinka in 1942. He said that later he commanded a squad which clubbed prisoners to death after a failed uprising and later led more prisoners into a forest to be executed. ³I recalled the camp commander¹s order to the SS guards,² he told Herr Matschke. ³ Restore calm with no regard to the consequences.¹ I went into the forest with a detachment of 110 Jews. I lined them up and gave the order to fire.² At the end of the war he put on the uniform of an ordinary German soldier but was recruited by the CIA after being discovered in a prisoner of war camp. He spent several months at a US military base at Frankfurt-Höchst, where he learnt rudimentary intelligence techniques and was circumcised. He was given a Jewish identity and sent as a Holocaust survivor to Calbe, East Germany, where he was to spy on old Nazis and new communist technologies at the local power plant. He went with his second wife, a Frenchwoman, and stayed until 1957 when he abandoned his family and fled West. According to intelligence files examined in German archives, the CIA forgot about him and no further action was taken against him. He stayed in West Germany until 1969, when he moved to Israel. In 1972 he moved to Venezuela with a Polish-Jewish woman whom he had married. His widow, Rosa, said: ³He fooled me for more than two decades about his past. Imagine, me, a Jew, living with a Jew-killer. I would have killed him myself had I known.² After confessing his identity he was found dead two days later. Herr Matschke said: ³You have to ask yourself: how many other Reinemers did America spirit to safety?² Copyright 2000 Times Newspapers Ltd. Alex Constantine Political Conspiracy Research Bin: http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] South African financial program interviews GATA's Murphy
1:29a EDT Friday, December 15, 2000 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: The Moneyweb radio program in South Africa did a nice interview this week with GATA Chairman Bill Murphy. A transcript of it appears here: www.mips1.net/MGGold.nsf/Current/4225685F0043D1B2852569B400825141? OpenDocument Word IS getting around. Help us spread the word. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/0/_/126/_/976862090/"BClick Here!/B/A -_-
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] GATA lawsuit makes front page of Toronto Globe and Mail
11a EDT Friday, December 15, 2000 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Here's a story from the front page of today's Toronto Globe and Mail, Canada's leading newspaper. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * GOLD PRICE CONSPIRACY ALLEGED By Peter Kennedy Toronto Globe and Mail www.theGlobeandMail.com December 15, 2000 Vancouver -- As the price of gold has slumped over the past couple of years, a theory has developed in some quarters that powerful forces are working to hold it down. Now the allegation has become the basis of a U.S. lawsuit. A Texas group that says it has received financial backing from major gold producers has accused top Wall Street investment firms of conspiring with the U.S. Federal Reserve Board, among others, to depress the price of gold. In a complaint filed last week in the U.S. District Court of Boston, Mass., the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA) is seeking compensation for an alleged price-fixing scheme it says involves J.P. Morgan Co. Inc., Chase Manhattan Corp., Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., and Deutsche Bank AG. GATA, whose contributors have included Canada's Placer Dome Inc., is alleging that the five Wall Street firms conspired with the U.S. Federal Reserve Board, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bank of International Settlements to depress the price of gold between 1994 and 2000. By doing so, GATA says they have prevented huge losses by financial organizations that borrow gold from central banks at low interest rates to resell on the open market. Banks that borrow gold lose money when prices rise because they must buy more gold to repay the loans at prices higher than what they got on the open market. Because of that, the complaint alleges, "over the past two years, Goldman, Chase and Deutsche Bank have regularly appeared as heavy sellers of gold on the New York Commodities Exchange whenever necessary to kill any significant rally." While the alleged scheme is said to have generated billions of dollars in profits for banks, the resulting downward pressure on gold prices has forced mines to close and pushed gold producers like Ashanti Goldfields Ltd. to the brink of bankruptcy, the suit alleges. "We think this will turn out to be one of the biggest financial scandals in U.S. history," GATA chairman Bill Murphy said. During an interview from Dallas, Mr. Murphy described himself as a 54-year-old financial newsletter writer who has decided to "do something about" what he sees as manipulation of the gold market, rather than just write about it. A GATA statement of claim names U.S. Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and Federal Reserve Bank of New York president William McDonough. According to the claim, the alleged scheme's objectives included preventing the gold price from signalling a warning of future U.S. inflation, which would have affected the international standing of the U.S. dollar and called further attention to the huge and unprecedented U.S. trade deficits. That in turn would have embarrassed the U.S. government, the lawsuit alleges. "Mining companies, their employees and shareholders, and developing countries have been ruined by the manipulation of the gold market, and it has prompted ordinary investors around the world to put their savings at greater risk than they would have done otherwise," Mr. Murphy said. He said GATA has taken legal action after receiving $285,000 (U.S.) in donations from some of the world's largest mining firms, including Placer Dome, Anglo American Gold Investment Co. Ltd. (Amgold) of South Africa, Gold Fields of South Africa Ltd. and JCI Gold Inc. Placer Dome spokeswoman Brenda Radies confirmed that the gold miner provided GATA with a $10,000 donation last year, prior to the resignation in February of its former chief executive officer John Willson. However, she said the company is not playing an active role in the affairs of GATA or its lawsuit. "We are neutral on the whole thing," she said. "I don't know what Mr. Willson's thinking was when he gave them the money." A spokeswoman for Goldman Sachs declined to comment on the price-fixing allegations which gold industry analysts and officials say are not new. "This has been kicking around for a couple of years now," said Roman Shklanka, a Vancouver gold-mining consultant and former chairman of Sutton Resources Ltd., which was swallowed two years ago by Toronto- based Barrick Gold Corp. Martin Murenbeeld, a Victoria-based gold analyst who publishes the Gold Monitor newsletter, said some of his clients believe in the conspiracy theory. "But I personally don't think there is much to it," he said. "The data available today and my own analysis [of gold pricing trends] suggests there is no conspiracy." Meanwhile, Reginald Howe, a former Boston lawyer and gold analyst who is acting as a consultant to GATA, said the lawsuit has been timed to coincide with a recent
[CTRL] FWD:Hired Guns Fuel Fundraising Race (etc.)
-Caveat Lector- Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:31:00 -0800 From: x X-Accept-Language: en To: x Subject: Re: Energy Chief Steps In ++One wonders if Bush would have beat up on Enron (or the others), to force them to supply power. That's a cruel joke, right? Ha! Enron CEOs are among Bush's biggest backers, his platinum pioneers! They bought this election, and damn well want their money's worth! ~~~ from the washington post: Hired Guns Fuel Fundraising Race By Susan B. Glasser Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday , April 30, 2000 ; A01 .. When Christian Coalition executive director Ralph Reed set up shop as a consultant in 1997, Bush's political team, sources said, helped Reed land a major account from Enron Corp., a Texas- based energy company that has been the largest contributor to Bush's campaigns over the years. With energy deregulation looming in state legislatures and Congress, Reed's job was the same sort of grass-roots politics he had been practicing for years. The only difference was the client. .. ` CounterPunch edited by alexander cockburn and jeffrey st. clair Shrub's Money Tree The media has widely reported that George W. Bush has put together a startlingly successful money-raising machine. At last report, Bush had pulled in more than $40 million. Much of the money has been raised through a network of Bush allies called the Pioneers. Each Pioneer pledged to recruit at least $100,000 for the Texas governor's presidential campaign. Campaign finance laws require candidates to disclose the names of individual contributors, but not the names of the Pioneers, who promised to bring in at least 100 checks for $1,000 each. On July 19, Texans for Public Justice, a fiesty watchdog group in Austin, wrote Bush demanding that his campaign release the names of the Pioneers. Two days later Bush complied. Here's the list of names. Joe Allen Houston TX Attorney, Vinson Elkins LLP Alfred Austin, Tampa FL President, The Austin Companies Joe Barton Ennis TX Congressman, U.S. House of Representatives Lee M. Bass, Fort Worth TX President, Lee M. Bass, Inc. George Bayoud Dallas TX former Secretary of State for Texas Louis A. Beecherl investor, Texas Oil Gas; Beecherl Investments Dennis R. Berman Dallas TX president, Denitech Wayne L. Berman, Washington DC Lobbyist, Berman Enterprises Inc Roland Betts, NY, NY Executive, Chelsea Piers Mgmt former parnter with Bush in the Texas Rangers Teel Bivins Austin TX State Senator, State of Texas James Blosser Ft. Lauderdale FL Government Relations, Poole McKinley Michael Boone, Dallas TX Attorney, Haynes Boone LLP Rudy Boschwitz, Plymouth MN Chairman, Home Value Katherine Boyd Burlingame CA owner, Katherine Boyd Interior Decoration Dan Branch Dallas TX Attorney, Langley Branch Stephen Brauer Bridgeton MO Executive, Hunter Engineering Co Nancy Brinker Dallas, TX housewife, Brinker International William Brisben, OH Home Builder, W. O. Brisben Companies Christopher Burnham, CT Asset Mgmt, Columbus Circle Investors Jonathan Bush, Killingworth CT Chairman, J Bush Co Inc/Riggs Bank George W. Bush's uncle William H. T. Bush St. Louis MO Chairman, Bush, O'Donnell Co. Joe Canizaro New Orleans LA CEO, Joseph Canizaro Inc A. R. "Pete" Carpenter Jacksonville FL CEO, CSX Transportation Claiborne Carrington San Antonio TX Bill Ceverha Dallas TX State Lobbyist James Click, AZ Executive, Jim Click Automotive Herb Collins, Boston MA Chair, Boston Capital Partners Peter Coneway Houston TX Investment Banker, Goldman Sachs Co. Jim Culbertson, Winston-Salem NC Executive, Financial Computing Inc Robert Dedman Jr. Dallas TX CEO, ClubCorp International on National Center for Policy Analysis's Board Bob Devlin Houston TX CEO, American General Financial Bill DeWitt Cincinnati OH Private Investor, Reynolds, DeWitt Securities Company Jennifer Dunn, Seattle, WA US Representative, Congress Patrick Durkin Greenwich CT Managing Director, Donaldson Lufkin Jenrette Dick Egan Hopkinton MA EMC Corporation Contributions to Bush's Gov. Races: $0 Gov. John Engler, Lansing, MI Governor, State of Michigan Marty Fiorentino Jacksonville FL VP of Communications, CSX Transportation Tom Foley Greenwich CT Executive, The NTC Group Sam Fox St. Louis MO CEO, Harbour Group Jim Francis Dallas TX President, Francis Enterprises Bradford (Brad) Freeman Los Angeles CA General Partner, Freeman, Spogli Co. David Girard-diCarlo Philidelphia PA Attorney/ CEO, Blank, Rome, Comisky, McCauley LLP D. Stephen Goddard Houston Tx Managing
Re: [CTRL] We support Malaria! and other FoE conspiracies
-Caveat Lector- Frederick Curran Is he a hired gun, or a lone nut? Inquiring minds want to know. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: president Bush 12-15-2000
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/0/_/1406/_/976897158/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,15-51159,00.html THURSDAY DECEMBER 14 2000 US Election 2000 Civil rights leader calls for protest BY DAMIAN WHITWORTH JESSE JACKSON, the civil rights leader, called for massive non- violent demonstrations yesterday against the US Supreme Court ruling that handed George W. Bush the presidency. The black leader, who spoke to Al Gore daily during the battle over Florida, had said that if the court ruled against the Vice-President it would "create a civil rights explosion". "People will not surrender to this tyranny. We will fight back," he said. Often the loudest and most incendiary voice in the dispute, Mr Jackson provided the most vivid evidence yesterday of polarisation in the country. "In Third World countries when democratically cast votes are not counted or the person who most likely lost wins in a highly questionable manner, we usually refer to that as a coup d'etat," he said. "I see this decision as a potential threat to our democracy and potentially destabilising to our democratic institutions. I see it as undermining the legitimacy of a President Bush." Mr Jackson, who had led calls for an investigation into allegations that thousands of blacks were impeded from voting Democrat in Florida, had argued that Mr Gore should not concede until the last legal option was exhausted. He accused Mr Bush of stealing the election and cautioned that he would mobilise protests against him. "We will take to the streets, we will delegitimise Bush, discredit him, do whatever it takes, but never accept him," he said, adding that the holiday in honour of Martin Luther King, five days before the inauguration on January 20, should be marked by street demonstrations. "We will not surrender our franchise," he said. Mr Jackson has also pledged that his Rainbow/Push coalition would challenge the election by obtaining the disputed ballots through Florida's open records law and count the votes themselves. "We will know before January 20 that Gore got most of the votes," he said. Resentment looked certain to linger longest in Florida, where many will remain convinced that Mr Gore was deprived of a rightful victory. "I saw hundreds of votes not counted from Miami-Dade," Ion Sancho, a Leon County election supervisor in charge of recounting ballots from Leon and Miami-Dade counties before the count was supended on Saturday, said. "We examined 4,000 of those undervotes and I'm convinced we had a massive failure in the punch-card ballot system. I believe we have not had an accurate count of the vote in the state of Florida." Democrat leaders refused to condemn Mr Jackson's words directly, angering Republicans. "Anyone in a position of leadership in this country would have to repudiate remarks like that," a spokeswoman for Dick Armey, the House majority leader, said. Copyright 2000 Times Newspapers Ltd. * Congratulations: It worked Bush's tarnished prize By Eric Alterman MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Dec. 13 Let's not mince words: George W. Bush, aided by a narrow conservative majority on the U.S. Supreme Court willing to invent new legal theory out of whole cloth specifically for these purposes, has stolen the 2000 election. Al Gore indisputably won the popular vote. He almost certainly would have won the tally in the Electoral College had Florida's vote ever been subjected to a full and fair manual count as mandated by Florida law. Bush owes his victory not to voters, but to a network of conservative hacks who managed to run out the clock on a fair count of the votes. HOW DO WE KNOW? Just look at the lengths to which Bush, and his allies in the Florida Governor's office, the Florida Secretary of State's office, the Florida legislature, the U.S. House of Representatives, and now, the U.S. Supreme Court were willing to go to prevent it. The Bush forces realized they had no chances of winning a fair count, so they were forced to employ a scorched-earth policy to prevent one. Congratulations, it worked. TARNISHED PRIZE George Bush will become president on Jan. 20 as the most tarnished individual to take the oath of office in more than a century. He owes his victory not to the majority of the voters, but to an informal network of conservative political and legal hacks who managed to successfully run out the clock on a fair count of the votes. The degree to which the U.S. Supreme Court was willing to make itself a party to these tawdry
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: president Bush 12-15-2000
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/00 10:43:38 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I see this decision as a potential threat to our democracy and=20 potentially destabilising to our democratic institutions. I see it as=20 undermining the legitimacy of a President Bush."=20 the anti Semetic and fascist rhetoric of Mr. Jackson is nothing new to Chicagoans. remember liberty has a price--VIGILANCE A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- Duncan has read this list and has been in archives until he begins to sound like certain people on this list. There are numerous Nexus Magazines - but Duncan, you sound like many different people. Who and what are you really Duncan - home brewed stuff in disguise - however, you do spell organization "organisatio" which is indicative of possible Australian extraction? You standing on your head a gain Duncan.a Prince, a true prince of Saudi Arabia who was to be King until they murdered his father in 1968 personally told me at a dinner party, and others at our table, that the European Zionist in Holy Land caused all the problems - that the jew and moslem and christians could live in peace if they would leave them aloneEhud Barak aka Brug, is Ashkenazi Zionist - look at the body bags containing bodies of many different varieties, primarily children - and then say Barak, a Standford man, is not a chief conspirator in the NWO conspiracy - like a Chess Board - many pawns - but as G. Gordon Liddy said, hey "they got your Queen". So it is all in the game, Duncan.you called this lady a Bimbo for expressing her views? What is a Bimbo, for recently an asshole called me a Bimbo on line, which I ignored Who and what are you really Duncan - but I sitll like to read your magazine and you sure as hell - well one could say you are self serving..now I see why this one woman was virtually run off this list, because she liked Ickes2 and 2 - 4; many people who preferred to reac Ickes seem to get kicked at with railing accusations? Saba So there are several Nexus Magazines - do you pubish and sell yours at Barnes and Noble as this one man so believes? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)
-Caveat Lector- Excuse the intrusion, but the anarchist principles you've argued in this thread were also of "dead men" -- and fellow anarchists -- Lysander Spooner for one. Anarchism is a dynamic, evolving philosophy. We continue to grow, by synergistically integrating the wisdom of the past, the experience of our elders, and the innovation of our youth. Simply because one quotes "dead men" doesn't mean they haven't thought it out for themselves, (only later to find that they have come to similar conclusions as "dead men"). I'm not talking about the use of quotations. I'm talking about thought processes, and said so quite clearly and literally. The religious mindset is based on the principle of doing what some dead guy said another dead guy said some supernatural being said to do in order to avoid punishment. Whether this is valid or bogus is a matter of opinion. But whatever it is, it is not thinking for oneself. BTW, Jesus (of Is-Ra-El) was about as "liberal" as Horus and Osiris of Egypt, Mithra and Zoroaster of Persia, Krishna of India, the Buddha, and so on and so forth. All seem to be cast of the same (concealed) astro-theological/entheogenic mold. The name may have changed, the song is still the same. It is important to distinguish between the historical Jesus, who was (probably) a human being, and the supernatural Jesus, who is a figment of religious imagination. There are no supernatural beings. There are no supernatural any things. By definition, nothing is beyond Nature. However, some of Nature we do not understand (yet). Some of Nature we do not even perceive (yet). A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: DavidIcke2000 Fwd: [Armageddon-or-NewAge] TAKE BACK THE COUNTRY on 1.20.01 in Wash, DC//Bush, Top BushMobsters WILL Be Arrested At Enthronement Ceremony]
So this Night Hawk or News Hawk - seems to hate the monarchy...why? Some of these Americans fall on all fours when they meet a Prince or a Queen - even when not in Rome, they do as the Romans. George Washington and Robert E. Lee were cousins to the royal family - and so am I - a lot of of are, and I can still prove my pedigree. Now comes this astrologers mark of doom and thank god, the "scientists" came down on the "astrologers" way back during late 60 period but too late for JFK, Teddy, and RFK - for even Teddy was almost murdered, two times..and these guys had taken on Mafia and KGBHoover just called them Communists for he feared the Zionists would destroy the FBIhve they not done so under Clinton? FBI men I have known the old line, were gentlemen an above reproach - my attorney headed up the Detroit office for 25 years - he was an honorable man, and the last think one would know about him, was he was retired FBI - that is until some kid hating cop got out of line, they they got the works.in a quiet, dignified manner, he would oppose anything corrupt J. Edgar Hoover I am sorry I misunderstood him for I know now, he nailed that old bat Jean Dixon twice - once using IRS and the other time getting on her Children to Chilldren Board and suddenly this divine prophetess got : IRS Audit for stealing money from Children to Children or using illegally. IRS nailed her in phoney art donation deal where she calimed a painting was worth over $100,00 which she donated, and was only worth a pittance. Columbia University told how Ted Kennedy had writting King Syndidate to say keep her big mouth off my family and myself or else...but alas, too late. Ancient Kings and Queens who caught anyone deciding for themselves when a King or Queen should die - they met death, for the secret of prophecy is propaganda - as the old King in I Kings said "Did I not tell you he would prophecy no good to me, only evil?". Romans 12 speaks of Gift of Prophecy which I call the Gift of Propaganda backed up with a gun and big bucks? Romans 12 says "vengance is mine".God is to take vengance, not the people who read this chapter.God said "I Will Repay", so here we have the role of a Godfather taking a lot of authority which is not his tto take. This Mafia uses the bible as its Master Plan for Murder keyed to the STARS and the Testaments. Always liked that "dreamer of dreams SHALL be slain"...Catholics teach hey - that does not mean to take the law into your own hands and in the 68th psalm spend lots of time worrying about my little yellow bird explaining - well signs of the times, we had RFK and Icarus - remember Icarus the asteroid coming for collisoin right when RFK was murdered by a star crazed, Christian arab - a Rosicrucian who looked into dark mirrors, who had a mentor and was under hypnotic control who said he would receive his money as per instructions in the bible? Code World was Poll that month. Rosicrucians and Masons come in many different colors - like chameleons, blend in as in when in Rome do as Romans. This is how that Trojan Horse pulled by Kissinger and the likes, and Clinton, got into our Oval Office. So Cry Havoc and turn loose the dogs of War? Note, Clinton could have won the presidency for Gore - all he had to do, was resign as President and let Gore take over...so Gore got a lesson in loyalty, if nothing more. Gore like Clinton would rather make love than war?Well that Clinton sure turned into a war monger when little Monica got through with him...hope he has a food taster when someone bring him a pizza pie in the future but he is destroyed and all the time the Mossad was tapping and taping his phone lines using Monicans.. So much for peace, in our time...and so much for the astrologers and their phoney astro,ogers mark of doon, which is Job 7, verse 10 as I recall - order to Hit the president was "neither shall he return to his house anymore"..as Clinton said when he climbed the hill to the Lee Memorial day or two before he died, which overlooked Arlington Cemetary - "I could stay here forever".and he did after being gunned down in the Streets of Laredo but thank heavens, he did not wear the white cowboy hat he had been given, and the limosine as cluttered with red roses - So if anything happens to our President, look to the Astrologers and the Chaldeans.and this thing called Mafia...they destroyed Kennedy, our last President..they tried to murder Reagan and gunned down George Wallace - and they tried to get George Bush by sending a dump truck after him as warning...like these conspirtors stole John Glenns golden medals - as a warning for he did not vote as he was supposed to vote..Glenn was not acceptable to these big crooks. So so much for the three Presidents...you wonder why Clinton took an army with him Maybe because Gore had married into the Jacob Schiff family? He walked into
[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Massive Voter Fraud?
-Caveat Lector- I think this is a very good idea. With congress equally divided, I doubt it will be conducted behind closed doors or by divination. If people REALLY want to know about voter fraud, this will give them the opportunity. Unfortunately, I think most of those crying "foul" the loudest are only interested in finding so-called facts to support their intractable point of view that is also half wishful thinking. Changing the emphasis from electoral to popular vote is another form of changing the rules after the game. I know many, many people who are saying they knew this state was going for Bush so heavily that they did not bother to vote. As Madeline Carville (forgot her maiden name) stated, Bush could have drummed up more popular votes but that was not the game. The results of this committee's findings should be interesting at the very least. Amelia - Original Message - From: "flw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:11 AM Subject: [CTRL] Massive Voter Fraud? -Caveat Lector- ELECTION 2000 Congress to establish voter-fraud task force Nationwide investigation will 'put people in jail,' By Kenneth R. Timmerman © 2000 Western Journalism Center http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_repack/20001215_xrpkg_ congress_t.shtml House Speaker Dennis J. Hastert is putting together a task force to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the November 7 election that will be nationwide in scope and will "put people in jail," according to a top member of the Republican leadership. Hastert initially asked outgoing Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill, to chair the task force, but Hyde says he turned it down. Hyde is the leading candidate to become the new chairman of the House International Relations Committee, in front of two moderate Republicans, Jim Leach and Doug Bereuter. Republicans will be looking at allegations of voter fraud from across the country, not just in Florida. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] This list should be warned
-Caveat Lector- Duncan, Thank you for reminding us of this fact. I think most of us are aware of it but forget from time to time and in the heat of the moment. I think this sort of concern may have contributed to the scrutiny to which you have been subjected. I hope you will not be offended with us and look forward to your posts. As soon as time permits, I shall check out your publication. I do not know if it is peculiar to 'spirators in general or just this list but we bicker a great deal. Notice how all research stops and is dropped instantly when the opportunity to squabble arises! It seems to be a test or trial of sorts and I sometimes think the list is comprised of those with the toughest skins. Most who have been around for very long have come under fire at one time or another. Please don't let it get to you and do not feel the need to respond to every detractor. It uses up your number of posts and is probably some sort of "survival of the fittest" or least sensitive endurance test. Lots of us are curmudgeons but there are some true gems of articles that come shining through from time to time. I hope you will stick around for them. As June said, your posts will stand on their own merit and just don't worry about anything else. Amelia A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
-Caveat Lector- BB, I think this sort of thing and claims that deity belong to one group or another tell the lack of integrity some posters have. If they have no faith themselves, they could refrain out of respect for the faith of others. It is tasteless and not even humorous. It is a sad commentary on the low level to which our society has sunk. I certainly do not desire to see Joe Lieberman get leprosy nor Al Gore be "smitten" over a darned election, even in jest. I, too, do not remember such sick humor and lack of honor following any precious election, including the one stolen from Nixon. To his credit, at least publicly, Gore did not behave in such a manner. I am just as outraged as the liberals over the antics I saw tried during this election but I am trying to control myself and not dwell on them. Hopefully, more will be learned about what actually happened with time. Just because they lost does not make the wrongs committed by the Democrats any less offensive. This has taken the inability to accept defeat to an extreme and amazing level. IMHO, Amelia - Original Message - From: "BB" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:46 PM Subject: Re: SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT - SNETNEWS Mailing List I do not recall anyone ever writing about God cursing Clinton, or Gore, or any other democrat when they were elected, with destruction of their lives, and physical afflictions. I wonder what God thinks about the stalwart who presumed to write in HIS behalf. Steve Wingate wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:13:29 -0500 From: Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - BREAKING NEWS: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT Bush to be smitten later today In a stunning development this morning, God invoked the "one nation, under God" clause of the Pledge of Allegiance to overrule last night's Supreme Court decision that handed the White House to George Bush. "I'm not sure where the Supreme Court gets off," God said this morning on a rare Today Show appearance, "but I'm sure as hell not going to lie back and let Bush get away with this bullshit." "I've watched analysts argue for weeks now that the exact vote count in Florida 'will never be known.' Well, I'm God and I DO know exactly who voted for whom. Let's cut to the chase: Gore won Florida by exactly 20,219 votes." Shocking political analysts and pundits, God's unexpected verdict overrules the official Electoral College tally and awards Florida to Al Gore, giving him a 289-246 victory. The Bush campaign is analyzing God's Word for possible grounds for appeal. "God's ruling is a classic over-reach," argued Bush campaign strategist Jim Baker. "Clearly, a divine intervention in a U.S. Presidential Election is unprecedented, unjust, and goes against the constitution of the state of Florida." "Jim Baker's a jackass," God responded. "He's got some surprises ahead of him, let me tell you. HOT ones, if you know what I mean." God, who provided the exact vote counts for every Florida precinct, explained that bad balloting machinery and voter confusion were no grounds to give the White House to "a friggin' idiot." "Look, only 612 people in Palm Beach County voted for Buchanan. Get real! The rest meant to vote for Gore. Don't believe me? I'll name them: Anderson, Pete; Anderson, Sam, Jr.; Arthur, James; Barnhardt, Ron..." Our Lord then went on to note that he was displeased with George W. Bush's prideful ways and announced that he would officially smite him today. In an act of wrath unlike any reported since the Book of Job, God has taken all of Bush's goats and livestock, stripped him of his wealth and possessions, sold his family into slavery, forced the former presidential candidate into hard labor in a salt mine, and afflicted him with deep boils. Dick Cheney will reportedly receive leprosy. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Fwd: Pinochet's Secret Police Flooded US with Cocaine
Guardian Weekly Pinochet's drug link comes to light By Hugh O'Shaughnessy Thursday December 14, 2000 The Chilean army and secret police have spent almost two decades secretly flooding Europe and the United States with cocaine. The trafficking began during General Augusto Pinochet's 17-year dictatorship, and continues to this day, a year-long investigation has established. Twelve tons of the drug, with a street value of several billion dollars, left Chile in 1986 and 1987 alone. The drugs, destined for Europe, have often been flown to Spanish territory by planes carrying Chilean arms to Iraq and Iran. Distribution to European nations has been controlled by secret police stationed in Chilean embassies in Stockholm and Madrid. There can be no doubt that Gen Pinochet, whose power was absolute between the 1973 coup and 1990, when he stepped down, was a party to trafficking. He declared in October 1981: "Not a leaf moves in Chile if I don't move it - let that be clear." The secret police - originally known as the Dina and from 1977 as the SNI - was staffed by service personnel, and helped Gen Pinochet to torture and kill opponents. The general kept a close, day-by-day check on all secret police operations. The Dina's former director, Gen Manuel Contreras, told the Chilean supreme court in 1998 that he undertook nothing without Gen Pinochet's permission. The huge profits from the drug deals went to enrich senior figures in Chile, with some going to finance the Dina/SNI operations. Gen Pinochet, who is fighting arrest on kidnapping and murder charges in Santiago, has not clarified how he and his wife, Lucia, had more than $1m in their account in the Riggs Bank in Washington in March 1997. As commander-in-chief of the Chilean army his annual salary at that time was $16,000. New evidence of Gen Pinochet's collaboration with Colombian drug dealers, first sketched out last year in my book, Pinochet: The Politics Of Torture, has emerged in The Thin White Line, a new book by Rodrigo de Castro, a former international civil servant in Chile, and Juan Gasparini, an Argentine journalist. It quotes US court documents, Chilean police files and depositions by a former US marine, Frankell Ivan Baramdyka, who was involved in the trafficking. Baramdyka was extradited from Chile in May 1993 and convicted in California of narcotics offences. He worked for US intelligence in the early 80s, and was encouraged to traffic in drugs on condition that some of the profits went to the Contra terrorists in Nicaragua, who were supported by President Ronald Reagan. After the US authorities raided his home in Los Angeles in 1985, Baramdyka fled to Santiago, where he set up a new trafficking operation. Later that year he was recruited by the Chilean secret police, and was soon overseeing the army's drug-export activities. The Observer Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2000
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [FredOnEverything] Anxiety
-Caveat Lector- So everyone is tired of talking about Jesus' possible political association. Apparently not. Here is an interesting forward that could open a whole new can of worms from Fred women want men to . . . What kind of fool takes a man's word, any man's word, on what women want? What kind of fool thinks women all want the same things? If you want to know what women want, ask women. And don't expect the same answer from, all of them. Anyone who assumes they all want the same thing, clearly hasn't been asking around. Ergo, he doesn't know what he's talking about. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [FredOnEverything] Anxiety
-Caveat Lector- Mulva wrote: Here is an interesting forward that could open a whole new can of worms from Fred (Washington Post Guy I believe). Fred, Fred, Fred. Alas, I bet you don't have a sister, a mother, a girlfriend or a wife that you are close to. If you had some women friends, you wouldn't have written such shite. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT]
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:52:41 -0700 BB [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- I wonder what God thinks about the stalwart who presumed to write in HIS behalf. When I channeled him last night he said it was funny 8-) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Commiserations
-Caveat Lector- Mostly, the people have bought into the propaganda put out by the two ruling parties: "A vote for a third party is a wasted vote." I find it remarkably funny that when I talk to people on a one to one basis, they agree more with Libertarians than with either of the Republicrats. However, when I suggest that what they actually want will not come about unless they actually vote for the man who espouses their ideals, they parrot the line "But I don't want to throw away my vote." Very frustrating. It seems that, to many Americans, voting is like betting; they want to bet on who they think will win, not who they want to win. To me, if you don't vote you have no right to bitch about how things are going. Jayson On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:33:27 EST Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/00 7:59:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we want to send a protest message to the big two in power, we vote for an independent or someone the partys in power like to attack. Unfortunately here in the US most people are too busy voting against the person they consider the "bad guy" rather than making their vote count by showing their disapproval of the ruling party and voting for one of the "third" parties. Either that, or they are just too afraid of liberty because they have been sucking the tit of government handouts so long they think they can't make a living by themselves. I belong to the majority, the 50% that didn't vote for Bush or Gore. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Will of the People?
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:11:34 -0500 "M.A. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Will of the People? by Thomas J. DiLorenzo The state needs to invent an endless series of myths about its powers and importance in order to exist, and there is no bigger myth than the notion that democratic governments are mere expressions of "the will of the people." No matter how heinous the deeds performed by democratic governments, no matter how much property they steal or people they kill at home and abroad, the basic institutions of the state are almost never challenged because they supposedly enjoy the support of "the will of the people." The will of the people was last best expressed in 1776. You are correct about the rest of the 224 years since then. This means that what little the average, rationally ignorant citizen does know about government tends to be mostly lies and statist propaganda. We only recognize what affects us directly. We have been placed in water and the heat has bee turned up incrementally. Most do not realize that the precious Constitution no longer applies. As long as the people, in general are fat, dumb and happy, they don't care. What all of this means is that government at all levels devotes enormous energy and resources to manufacturing the will of the people, not merely responding to it. Government has become the master, not the servant, of the people, even under democracy. Unless we want to live our lives as serfs, working for half the year or longer to feed the voracious appetites of the tax collectors, the powers of the state need to be scaled back as much as is humanly possible. There is only one way to accomplish this: take the lesson the founding fathers taught us and repeat it till we get it right. They, too, found themselves living under a represive government which overtaxed them, was not in any way responsive to their needs or wishes, and used armed men to enforce the dictates handed down from on high. It may be happenstance that our new "leader" is George II, or it may be a"sign". The free market is the only institution about which it can be said that the will of the people is satisfied. That depends on what you mean by a "free market". A very big part of our problems stem from the power of Big Corporations and the wealthy 1%. If you mean that corporations and wealthy people should have free reign, I would agree only if all of the power is vested in the people, with state and federal governments having only very limited power in very narrow areas. I would much prefer doing away with capitalism entirely, and replacing it with a better way. However, that is entirely too long a dialogue to go into, and is mostly beside the point in this discussion. Suffice it to say that we have the knowledge, technology and resources to provide a good life for everyone IF we share things fairly. Jayson R. Jones A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
-Caveat Lector- Amelia wrote: I think this sort of thing and claims that deity belong to one group or another tell the lack of integrity some posters have. If they have no faith themselves, they could refrain out of respect for the faith of others. It is tasteless and not even humorous. It is a sad commentary on the low level to which our society has sunk A word of advice Amelia - don't read the Onion! You may find it very upsetting indeed! Kelly I thought it was brilliant and hilarious! Whoever posted it - do you know who wrote it? Thanks, Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Want a Myotron?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/970707/7weir.htm As the military continues its search for nonlethal weapons, one device that works on contact has already hit the streets. It is called the "Pulse Wave Myotron." A sales video shows it in action. A big, thuggish-looking "criminal" approaches a well-dressed woman. As he tries to choke her, she touches him with a white device about the size of a pack of cigarettes. He falls to the floor in a fetal position, seemingly paralyzed but with eyes open, and he does not recover for minutes. "Contact with the Myotron," says the narrator, "feels like millions of tiny needles are sent racing through the body. This is a result of scrambling the signals from the motor cortex region of the brain," he says. "It is horrible," says William Gunby, CEO of the company that developed the Myotron. "It is no toy." The Myotron overrides voluntary--but not involuntary--muscle movements, so the victim's vital functions are maintained. Sales are targeted at women, but law enforcement officers and agencies--including the Arizona state police and bailiffs with the New York Supreme Court--have purchased the device, Gunby says. A special model built for law enforcement, called the Black Widow, is being tested by the FBI, he says. "I hope they don't order a lot soon," he adds. "The Russian government just ordered 100,000 of them, and I need to replenish my stock." -- The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.~ Tacitus (A.D. 55?-130?) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
-Caveat Lector- Love it!! Kelly, is there a website address to go with this, do you know? Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:13 PM Subject: [CTRL] GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - BREAKING NEWS: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT Bush to be smitten later today In a stunning development this morning, God invoked the "one nation, under God" clause of the Pledge of Allegiance to overrule last night's Supreme Court decision that handed the White House to George Bush. "I'm not sure where the Supreme Court gets off," God said this morning on a rare Today Show appearance, "but I'm sure as hell not going to lie back and let Bush get away with this bullshit." "I've watched analysts argue for weeks now that the exact vote count in Florida 'will never be known.' Well, I'm God and I DO know exactly who voted for whom. Let's cut to the chase: Gore won Florida by exactly 20,219 votes." Shocking political analysts and pundits, God's unexpected verdict overrules the official Electoral College tally and awards Florida to Al Gore, giving him a 289-246 victory. The Bush campaign is analyzing God's Word for possible grounds for appeal. "God's ruling is a classic over-reach," argued Bush campaign strategist Jim Baker. "Clearly, a divine intervention in a U.S. Presidential Election is unprecedented, unjust, and goes against the constitution of the state of Florida." "Jim Baker's a jackass," God responded. "He's got some surprises ahead of him, let me tell you. HOT ones, if you know what I mean." God, who provided the exact vote counts for every Florida precinct, explained that bad balloting machinery and voter confusion were no grounds to give the White House to "a friggin' idiot." "Look, only 612 people in Palm Beach County voted for Buchanan. Get real! The rest meant to vote for Gore. Don't believe me? I'll name them: Anderson, Pete; Anderson, Sam, Jr.; Arthur, James; Barnhardt, Ron..." Our Lord then went on to note that he was displeased with George W. Bush's prideful ways and announced that he would officially smite him today. In an act of wrath unlike any reported since the Book of Job, God has taken all of Bush's goats and livestock, stripped him of his wealth and possessions, sold his family into slavery, forced the former presidential candidate into hard labor in a salt mine, and afflicted him with deep boils. Dick Cheney will reportedly receive leprosy. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
[CTRL] Fwd: Billy James Hargis [Christian Crusade] His Choir Boys
http://www.postfun.com/pfp/features/97/oct/hargis.html SCANDALS IN EDEN, Selected Tales Of Religious Misbehavior, part 1 We're going to look at a class of people with an unbroken history of doing absolutely anything they want, and getting away with it. SCANDALS IN EDEN, Selected Tales Of Religious Misbehavior, part 1: Billy James Hargis by Kevin Lambert Of all the seven deadly sins, avarice and greed are the hands down favorites of the priestly classes. Robbing the flock, in fact, is as much of a religious tradition as burning incense. In the medieval church, the popes trimmed their pillows with gold and ermine. One cardinal required 10 stables for his horses and 51 houses for his entourage. A wealthy sinner could buy dispensation to receive stolen goods, marry a cousin or sister, legitimize children, or (my personal favorite) divide a corpse so it could be buried in two different places. One Franciscan monk made his fortune selling pieces of the burning bush that spoke to Moses. The reformist, splinter groups were generally worse. In 1534, when a group of radical Anabaptists took over the German town of Muenster, they stripped all the Catholics and Lutherans of their money, property and clothing, and sent them into exile during a blinding snowstorm. During a famine, they snatched up all the available food and strolled through town munching on snacks while everybody else slowly starved to death. Anyone who complained was beheaded, and the rest of the townsfolk were forced to look on, singing hymns. In other words, we're going to look at a class of people with an unbroken history of doing absolutely anything they want, and getting away with it. Their other great excess is sex. There's nothing wrong with sex, and it's certainly preferable to hustling people's life savings, but religious people are very excitable about it. They find it so repellant that they have appropriated the word "Moral" to describe someone who doesn't partake of it. In fact, the only reason that society thinks that sex is wrong is through the mouthings of the very men who get caught doing it. And, even though the names change and the trysting spots vary, they keep on doing it, almost as a class. A holy roller might even be described as a man who can't keep his lip or his fly buttoned. BILLY JAMES HARGIS Like country music, evangelism produces a lot of limited living legends. They can get rich, found dynasties, get whole towns named after them, but in New York they'd still wait an hour and a half for a table in a 3 star restaurant. They almost need a murder trial to get really famous, and even then I tend to get my Billy Rays mixed up with my Jimmy Bobs. Not only do all their names sound alike, they all preach the same Babylonian political agenda and they all talk like guys you'd meet in the army stockade. The FBI might even keep a "Holy Roller Profile", the same way they do with serial killers. And if they do, Billy James Hargis fits it like a designer condom. Billy James Hargis, now in his 70's, built a career howling against the usual things that irritate the umbrageous right; sex, permissiveness, drugs, communism. A flat faced Oklahoman with the porcine eyes of a prison guard, he went from nowhere to top billing on 140 tv and 500 radio stations. He founded a Christian college and a newspaper which attained a circulation of 200,000. He got rich, of course, but as the bible tells us, money isn't everything. In the mid-seventies, two students from his Bible College testified that the Reverend had officiated at their wedding ceremony, gone along on the honeymoon, and took his turn with the bride. And then with the groom. Then it came out that Hargis had been bringing college choir boys to his farm. Exhorting them with the biblical passage about David's friendship with Jonathan, and threatening them with blacklisting if they talked, Billy took them into his bed and did his devilish business with them. (The name of the choir was the "All American Kids.") Confronted with these accusations, Hargis admitted it all, blaming it on "Genes and chromosomes." That confused his critics for a moment. Billy James had never been the kind of guy to trot in scientific arguments, so he stepped things up. He withdrew his confession and bounded back to the college. He claimed that the Lord had forgiven him, and, just in case He hadn't, held on to the mailing lists. He blamed his barnyard buggery on "Liberal subversion" and "The forces of Satan out to silence anti-communism." Before you laugh, bear in mind that this sort of Christian logic has elected more than a few American politicians. The youngsters that he'd coaxed into his bed weren't laughing. By the standards of urban America they didn't do anything wrong, but out there, in their barren little world, they are scarred for life. Unlike Billy James, who has been "Forgiven" by the legions of potato heads and dimwits he's been suckering for so long. He is currently sitting around
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
-Caveat Lector-
The person who wrote this is well known for his satire. You take this MUCH
too seriously, BB!
Steve
On 14 Dec 00, at 21:46, BB wrote:
I do not recall anyone ever writing about God cursing Clinton,
or Gore, or any other democrat when they were elected,
with destruction of their lives, and physical afflictions.
I wonder what God thinks about the stalwart who presumed to
write in HIS behalf.
Steve Wingate wrote:
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BREAKING NEWS: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
Bush to be smitten later today
In a stunning development this morning, God invoked the "one nation,
under God" clause of the Pledge of Allegiance to overrule last night's
Supreme Court decision that handed the White House to George Bush.
"I'm not sure where the Supreme Court gets off," God said this morning
on a rare Today Show appearance, "but I'm sure as hell not going to lie
back and let Bush get away with this bullshit."
"I've watched analysts argue for weeks now that the exact vote count in
Florida 'will never be known.' Well, I'm God and I DO know exactly who
voted for whom. Let's cut to the chase: Gore won Florida by exactly
20,219 votes."
Shocking political analysts and pundits, God's unexpected verdict
overrules the official Electoral College tally and awards Florida to Al
Gore, giving him a 289-246 victory. The Bush campaign is analyzing God's
Word for possible grounds for appeal.
"God's ruling is a classic over-reach," argued Bush campaign strategist
Jim Baker. "Clearly, a divine intervention in a U.S. Presidential
Election is unprecedented, unjust, and goes against the constitution of
the state of Florida."
"Jim Baker's a jackass," God responded. "He's got some surprises ahead
of him, let me tell you. HOT ones, if you know what I mean."
God, who provided the exact vote counts for every Florida precinct,
explained that bad balloting machinery and voter confusion were no
grounds to give the White House to "a friggin' idiot."
"Look, only 612 people in Palm Beach County voted for Buchanan. Get
real! The rest meant to vote for Gore. Don't believe me? I'll name them:
Anderson, Pete; Anderson, Sam, Jr.; Arthur, James; Barnhardt, Ron..."
Our Lord then went on to note that he was displeased with George W.
Bush's prideful ways and announced that he would officially smite him
today. In an act of wrath unlike any reported since the Book of Job, God
has taken all of Bush's goats and livestock, stripped him of his wealth
and possessions, sold his family into slavery, forced the former
presidential candidate into hard labor in a salt mine, and afflicted him
with deep boils.
Dick Cheney will reportedly receive leprosy.
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[CTRL] Suicide, Homicide Or Accident ?
-Caveat Lector- Is there something very *odd* about this incident ? - Friday December 15 3:44 PM ET Woman Disappears From Airplane in Mid-Flight SAN JOSE, Calif. (Reuters) - A high-tech company employee apparently plunged to her death when a door on a chartered airplane mysteriously opened in mid-flight -- but nobody reported her disappearance until almost an hour later, after the plane touched down, officials said Friday. Federal Bureau of Investigation spokesman Nick Rossi said the woman ``apparently fell or jumped'' from the aircraft, but the circumstances remained unclear. ``The FBI ... has been involved in interviews with potential witnesses and associates,'' Rossi said, adding that the agency had been asked to investigate because it has jurisdiction over potential crimes aboard aircraft. The woman, an employee of computer and printer maker Hewlett-Packard Co., boarded the company-chartered twin turbo-prop airplane Thursday for a regular shuttle run between Roseville and San Jose, California. Officials said pilots on the 15-seat DeHavilland DHC-6 aircraft, which carried five passengers, reported that a warning light in the cockpit first indicated a door on the plane was unlocked shortly after takeoff, prompting a precautionary landing in Sacramento. With the door re-secured, the airplane took off again bound for San Jose. About three minutes later, as the plane was climbing, the pilot radioed that the door had opened again. Authorities believe the woman ``exited the craft'' at that point. ``About five miles southeast of Sacramento, at 2,000 feet, a female reportedly jumped or fell from the aircraft,'' Nelson told Reuters in a telephone interview. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: {slick-d} Gore's speech Drafts
' I don't mean this in a mean spirited way. Honestly I don't. I can all too easily imagine such thoughts really going through his mind. Well all but the last one anyway. Please take this in good fun. I really don't see any meanness in it. Maybe I'm just too sympathetic, or perhaps just pathetic? (;- Please enjoy it if you can. David Al Gore Concession Speech : 1st Draft Good Evening, my fellow Americans: Tonight we come to the end of a long road and the start of a new one. Having exhausted all avenues of appeal in the US and Florida, my legal team has filed a claim in World Court seeking to over turn the Florida elect. crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech : 2nd Draft Good evening, my fellow Americans; Tonight, in the spirit of national unity and despite being the undisputed winner of the popular vote... crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech : 3rd Draft Good Evening Everyone. Many of you no doubt know what it feels like to get royally shaf... crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore concession Speech: 4th Draft Good Evening my fellow Americans; Although it is the opinion of my attorneys and myself that I do not fit the legal definition of "loser,". crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 5th Draft I can't do this. I just can't do this, crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 6th Draft Hello, my fellow Americans. It's been a long and difficult month for me and, indeed, for the entire nation. But the time has come for us all to throw our enthusiastic support behind our next president, George W. Buhh...Bbb ..bahoo. (laugh) Pardon me. Let me try that again: President George W. Buh, Buh. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PEOPLE! HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO PUNCH OUT A FREAKIN' CARDBOARD HOLE IN A BALLOT! MORONS! crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 7th Draft My fellow Americans, in light of recent unfavorable court decisions, it has come to my understanding that a majority of you want to turn the country over to a recovering alcoholic and functional illiterate... crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 8th Draft Good Evening, my fellow Americans. Have you ever known someone who took something from a store without paying for it? That's called "stealing," and in America stealing is a cri, crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 9th Draft My fellow Americans; most of you probably know how to count. One, Two, three.. And so on. See? It's not that difficult. (smile). So can someone please explain to me why the state of Florida, crumple crumple crumple - Al Gore Concession Speech: 10th Draft Good evening Everyone. Generally speaking Civil War is never a good thing. But there are times...ah, forget it crumple crumple crumple - In the spirit of goodwill and to show there were no hard feelings, President-elect Bush announced he would appoint Al Gore as Ambassador to Chad. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/1/_/122670/_/976911234/ -_- THIS SPACE FOR RENT For details, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please limit your postings to this list to 3 messages in any 24 hour period.** Subscribe to SlickPlus and receive columns from some of the finest political writers on the net. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words JOIN PLUS in the subject. If you're more of a reader than a writer, you may want to receive the Slick-D DIGEST instead of individual emails. Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove your address, send blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No muss, no fuss. Have a great day :=(
[CTRL] Fwd: Election: IMAGINE WE WERE IN CHINA
-Caveat Lector- CHICAGO TRIBUNE HMMM, SAY WE WERE IN CHINA By Lee Feigon. (Lee Feigon is a professor of Chinese history at Colby College.) December 8, 2000 As a sinologist I can't help but think that if the events of election eve had transpired not in the United States but in a place like China, voters and TV viewers would not have been surprised by the results. As confusing as things might appear to Americans, the explanation would have seemed obvious to anyone used to a more authoritarian tradition of leaders: The Bush family rigged the results. Consider the family's background. George W. Bush's father is not just the former president of the United States but also the one-time head of the CIA. As secretary of defense in Bush's administration, Dick Cheney was responsible for the National Security Agency, a spook organization more powerful than the Central Intelligence Agency. Jeb Bush, the Republican candidate's brother and governor of Florida, spent years living and working in South America, where elections routinely have been manipulated by American-trained operatives. Now remember what happened on the evening of the election. Every television network called Florida for Gore about 8 p.m. The Bush camp quickly protested, arguing the returns from absentee ballots and rural counties might yet be different from what the networks had declared. Jeb Bush, we were told, was on the phone with Florida desperately trying to find extra votes. Many of us wondered: "What was Jeb Bush doing? The votes have already been cast." Then the votes the Bush people had predicted suddenly began to appear. By 2 a.m., the networks were calling the election for Bush. In a twist that many Chinese might be able to appreciate, this result was also not to remain in place for long. If clever operatives had fiddled with the election returns they would want the predictions to change back and forth a few times so it would look like the problem had been caused by the experts at the networks not by someone playing with the results? The focus on uncounted and difficult to use ballots in Palm Beach, Miami-Dade and Broward Counties would be the perfect smokescreen to keep the attention off chicanery elsewhere in the state. Couldn't this explain why the Bush side didn't want to accept Vice President Al Gore's offer of a statewide recount, even when it appeared in their interest to do so? "Nah," I think. "These kind of things don't happen in America." But the sinologist voice in the back of my head keeps working. If this were China I would look for indications that the family had used their spook connections to manipulate other events. Didn't someone do a pretty good job covering up George W. Bush's absenteeism from his National Guard duty? For years the record of his drunk-driving conviction remained suppressed. He even got out of the rehab program everyone convicted of drunk driving in the state of Maine was supposed to attend. There's also that supposedly determinative first presidential debate. Shortly before this debate, videotapes of George W.'s preparation sessions suddenly arrived in the office of Gore's debate coach. Rather than run the risk of appearing tainted, the coach removed himself from Gore's debate preparations. Gore's performance suffered. The story was that a disaffected worker in the Bush camp probably sent the tapes, but the person still hasn't been found. All this doesn't add up to a hill of beans. This isn't China. Only someone like me would even think about how after the elder George Bush lived in China in the 1970s, he restarted a previously dead-end political career. Even I won't make anything of the fact that not long after that his once good for nothing elder son made a fortune, got elected governor and then became a candidate for the presidency. It's a good thing we don't live in some country where all this would be looked on with suspicion. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To
[CTRL] Natural protein may defend from HIV, study finds
-Caveat Lector- Want to send this story to another AOL member? Click on the heart at the top of this window. Natural protein may defend from HIV, study finds WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A natural body protein usually associated with cystic fibrosis might be enlisted in the fight against AIDS because it shuts down the HIV virus, researchers said on Friday. The protein, called alpha-1 antitrypsin (AAT), seems to prevent the AIDS virus from infecting cells, the team at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center reports. "In the laboratory, we confirmed the surprising observation that the AIDS virus did not grow in blood," Dr. Leland Shapiro, an assistant professor of medicine who led the study, said in a statement. "This suggested that there was at least one substance in the blood that blocked the virus. We believe we have identified one of the substances as AAT." In a study to be published in the Federation of the American Societies of Experimental Biology (FASEB) Journal, Shapiro and colleagues said AAT works in several ways against the virus. Looking at blood donated to the American Red Cross, Shapiro and colleagues saw the HIV virus did not proliferate when added to blood from healthy volunteers, but it did when added to blood from patients who had genetic defects that caused them to have low levels of AAT. They also found, working in the laboratory, that AAT blocked the ability of the virus to infect previously healthy, uninfected cells. And in cells infected with HIV, adding AAT to the lab dish virtually stopped the virus's ability to spread out of the cell. Shapiro said it may be that the virus reproduces in areas naturally low in AAT. They think it might be possible to give extra AAT to HIV-infected patients. "These findings are preliminary but promising," Shapiro said. "If clinical results are as promising as what we have seen in the laboratory, methods of increasing AAT or use of an AAT 'mimic' might be an effective form of AIDS therapy." He said he would propose running tests in humans. AAT is used to treat patients with cystic fibrosis and other genetic defects. It is being grown in the milk of genetically engineered animals by PPL Therapeutics, the Scotland-based company involved in cloning the first mammal, Dolly the sheep, in 1997. 17:03 12-15-00 Copyright 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Richard Grossman on Nader + election battles
-Caveat Lector- From: "Paul Cienfuegos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient List Suppressed:; Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: ** Three new articles by Richard Grossman regarding Nader, + theongoing election Supreme Court battles Friends, The election is "over" supposedly, but there sure is alot of good debating and discussing going on across this broken democracy of ours. Perhaps all of those millions of democratic conversations taking place nationwide will help to energize all of us to stay active. I present below three new essays by Richard Grossman, Co-director of the Program on Corporations, Law and Democracy (POCLAD), a 12-member think-tank / affinity group based in Massachusetts. Richard continues to be one of the most provocative thinkers in the country today on the critical topic of democracy and corporate rule. And his organization's analysis continues to be instrumental in the work of my local non-profit, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County (Arcata, CA). I encourage all of you to learn more about POCLAD http://www.poclad.org. Paul Cienfuegos PS. Look for one more large email from moi in the next few days re the 2000 elections. PPS. OK...but first.a few election tidbits. 1. Did you know that Supreme Court Justice Scalia's son is an attorney in one of the law firms representing Bush before the Supreme Court today! And that Scalia recently stated that if Bush didn't win the presidency, that he intended to resign from the court because he would then have no chance of becoming the Chief Justice? Ahhh...thank goodness for a non-partisan judiciary!!! 2. Here are two archives of all the election irregularities reported in Florida thus far: http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/ElectionIrregularities.htm http://www.bushneverwonflorida.com/ --- First, a piece he wrote for a series of Guest Editorials intended for informal syndication in papers around the United States. This piece addresses the response to the Nader campaign. You are welcome to forward this article to local media as a Guest Editorial. Ralph Nader and the Apoplectics Copyright 2000 By Richard Grossman Richard Grossman is co-director of the Program on Corporations, Law Democracy (POCLAD). He can be reached at P.O. Box 246, South Yarmouth, MA 02664. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (603) 473-8637. Fax: (603) 473-8657. November 17, 2000 1600 Words What's with all this apoplexy over Nader? What barbarous, villainous, and depraved acts did he commit that labor leaders and heads of national liberal groups denounce him as the enemy of minorities, the poor, women, and the environment? That Senator Joseph Biden says that Nader will not be welcome in Senate corridors? That James Carville vows on TV to walk out of the room should Nader enter? That the First Lady jokes about killing him? That NY Times Corporation editorial writers label him "beyond the reach of reason," "a political narcissist"? For heaven's sakes, what did this man do? It appears that he and the Green Party gathered signatures to qualify for the ballot in 43 states plus Washington, D.C. He encouraged hundreds of Green Party candidates to run for local and state offices. He barnstormed the nation, speaking in living rooms, village squares, universities, and even huge sports arenas. Despite being kept out of televised Bush-Gore dialogues, Nader and the Greens encouraged millions to get involved in the gritty work of self-governance. Isn't that what high school civics books teach is the life blood of democracy? But then an inconclusive election launched an extraordinary national educational experience. Just look what people are talking about now: * Machines vs. humans. * The electoral college, that left-over contrivance concocted by slave state politicians to establish their domination (slave-holding Virginians served as president for 32 out of the nation's first 36 years). * Local-state-federal jurisdictional struggles over who's in charge; legislative, executive, and judicial branches crossing paths and swords: It's U.S. Constitutional theory in action! * Hitherto obscure constitutional offices of state attorney general and secretary of state. * The will of the people. Not a bad list. What if people were to pursue these topics? Let's explore the "will of the people." As Nader and many others have been pointing out, U.S. law regards basic decisions affecting jobs, wealth, communities, commerce, life and death as beyond the will of the people. Democratic and Republican free marketers do not exactly put it this way, but that's what they mean. Over and over again, the courts have so affirmed. Joe Lieberman echoed this on the campaign trail when he insisted that it is the private sector - corporations - that We the People must depend upon for jobs. So is anything else private? What else is beyond the authority of the American people? * the money supply, which is set by one unelected man at the Federal
Re: [CTRL] SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Election: IMAGINE WE WERE IN CHINA
-Caveat Lector- Wonderful article. Thank you. Samantha In a message dated 12/15/00 4:18:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CHICAGO TRIBUNE HMMM, SAY WE WERE IN CHINA By Lee Feigon. (Lee Feigon is a professor of Chinese history at Colby College.) December 8, 2000 . All this doesn't add up to a hill of beans. This isn't China. Only someone like me would even think about how after the elder George Bush lived in China in the 1970s, he restarted a previously dead-end political career. Even I won't make anything of the fact that not long after that his once good for nothing elder son made a fortune, got elected governor and then became a candidate for the presidency. It's a good thing we don't live in some country where all this would be looked on with suspicion. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Legal to use illegal DNA samples in Britain.
-Caveat Lector- This is from the latest http://leviathan.weblogs.com. I hope the HTML works, if not the link is embedded in there somewhere. DNA confusion. England's highest legal authority, the Law Lords, have ruled that a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003038683162729rtmo=kCkCC3opatmo=hhhepg=/et/00/12/15/ndna15.html"it is legal under some circumstances /afor the police to use DNA samples in criminal trials which were required to be destroyed but were not. A man was acquitted of rape after DNA evidence was excluded from his trial. The DNA sample was taken in relation to an earlier charge of burglary, on which he was also acquitted upon which the sample should have been destroyed. http://leviathan.weblogs.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: GOD OVERRULES SUPREME COURT VERDICT
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Kelly, Sorry, I got it mixed up with another article. I do not know the identity.
Regards,
Steve
On 15 Dec 00, at 17:51, Kelly wrote:
Steve! Who wrote it?
Thanks,
Kelly
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Re: [CTRL] Researchers: Child abuse, neglect can trigger permanent brain damage
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find an article on research that may show the connection between abuse and permanent brain damage. Sincerely, Neil Brick quotes from : http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/children/12/14/child.abuse.brain/index.html "Researchers: Child abuse, neglect can trigger permanent brain damage - By Troy Goodman - CNN.com Health Writer - Child abuse and neglect can "rewire" the nascent brain, scientists have found, which may lead to psychological problems throughout adulthoodThe report confirms smaller studies showing that the brain "rewires" itself in response to traumaOther doctors were quick to point out that positive parental support -- and sometimes even psychotherapy -- can help normalize brain function researchers found between normal brains and the brains of those abused or neglected in childhood is a condition called limbic irritability. The brain's limbic system controls many of the most fundamental emotions." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Passenger Plunges From Calif. Commuter Plane
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Passenger Plunges From Calif. Commuter Plane
SAN JOSE, Calif. (Reuters) - A high-tech company employee plunged
2,000 feet through an open door of a flying commuter airplane after at least
one fellow passenger struggled vainly to hold on to her, officials said on
Friday.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation officials told reporters they were ruling
out foul play in Thursday's horrific incident in the California skies, attributing
the woman's disappearance to either suicide or a bizarre accident.
Sacramento police were preparing to search the area with ground vehicles
and a helicopter for a body, officials said.
The woman, an employee of computer and printer maker Hewlett-Packard
Co., boarded a company twin turbo-prop airplane on Thursday for a regular
shuttle run between Roseville and San Jose, California.
Officials said pilots on the 15-seat aircraft, which carried five passengers,
reported that a warning light in the cockpit first indicated a door on the
plane was unlocked shortly after takeoff, prompting a precautionary landing
in Sacramento.
With the door re-secured, the airplane took off again bound for San Jose.
About three minutes later, as the plane was climbing, the pilot radioed that
the door had opened again.
What exactly occurred within the plane cabin was still only partially clear.
But FBI (news - web sites) spokesman Andrew Black said interviews with
fellow passengers revealed that at least one had engaged in a desperate
struggle to hold on to the woman when he saw her standing in the aircraft's
open doorway.
``The moment he felt the door open and the increase in noise and breeze
he turned around and he saw her half way out of the plane,'' Black told
KTVU television.
``He had to reach over his seat, and he's holding on to her with his arms
partially outside the plane, trying to pull her back in,'' Black said. ``He
clearly jeopardized his own safety and made a very, very extraordinary
effort to rescue this woman. Unfortunately he was only able to hold on for
several moments.''
Authorities declined to speculate on why the crew or other passengers
aboard the plane failed to notify authorities of the woman's disappearance
until well after the airplane landed at San Jose about an hour later.
``That's being investigated,'' San Jose Airport spokesman Jim Peterson
said. ``There are a lot of unknowns, and they're looking at everything to
determine what happened.''
Hewlett-Packard declined to disclose the passenger's identity, saying only
she worked in its purchasing department.
``We are deeply concerned and are helping authorities to determine what
happened,'' the company said in a statement. ``Out of respect for the
individuals involved, we are not providing additional information at this
time.''
Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites) officials said
preliminary inspection had revealed no obvious problems with the plane.
``In the initial inspection, it does not appear to be any mechanical
malfunction of the rear door,'' agency spokesman Jerry Snyder told
reporters, adding that pilot error had also been ruled out.
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[CTRL] JW: BUSH EMBRACES HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 12/15/2000 Press Office 202-646-5172 GEORGE W. BUSH EMBRACES HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON Judicial Watch Warns President-Elect To Stay Away (Washington, DC) Yesterday, President-elect George W. Bush, in a telephone conversation with Bill Clinton, embraced Hillary Rodham Clinton by telling her husband, Bill Clinton, that he looked forward to working with the Senator from New York. This has been reported widely in The Washington Post and in other written and television press. During the campaign, Governor Bush showed little interest in ethics issues and, in fact, stated: While its clear that Al Gore engaged in a number of questionable fund raising activities and gave the FBI statements that continue to raise the issue of credibility, the American people are sick and tired of all these scandals and investigations. The best way to put all these scandals and investigations behind us is to elect someone new. Im running to uphold the honor and dignity of the White House. William Safire, in an article entitled Exegesis of Acceptance of August 7, 2000, wrote: Running against Washington. The Yale graduate and child of privilege assumed, Jimmy Carter style, a hardscrabble pose to assert that his background may lack the polish of Washington. And then, following a focus-group distaste for controversy;, he dissociated himself from all investigations into Clinton-Gore scandals, including illegal fund-raising: I have no stake in the bitter arguments of the last few years. Republicans on the unpopular ramparts of the rule of law were coolly informed he preferred civility and respect. While Mrs. Clinton has thus far escaped criminal proceedings by federal prosecutors, she is a defendant in seven Judicial Watch lawsuits and, in particular, the prime defendant in the ongoing $90-million Filegate class-action case. Testimony from a number of sources shows that she was the mastermind of Filegate and, indeed, has smeared a number of political and other perceived adversaries with information from their U.S. government files. In this regard, she and her husband, Bill Clinton, along with others, engaged in criminal conduct, as found by the Court, when she released information from Kathleen Willeys official White House file to smear and destroy her. In addition, the award-winning author, Christopher Anderson, in his book Bill and Hillary: A Marriage, has reported that Mrs. Clinton hired private investigators to dig up dirt on and smear two of Judicial Watchs clients, Gennifer Flowers and Dolly Kyle Browning. For these and other reasons, and even to further his professed goal of bi-partisanship, President-elect Bush should not get into bed with an individual such as Mrs. Clinton, who lately has been attempting to extort millions of dollars from book publishers, with interests before the U.S. Senate, to publish her memoirs and line her pockets further, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Click Here http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/14/politics/14HILL.html Judicial Watch will not rest until Mrs. Clinton is brought to justice, pays large damages to Judicial Watch clients, and is thrown in jail where she belongs, added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. ### = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: No Volunteers for Clinton Secret Service Detail (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Friday, Dec. 15, 2000 12:21 a.m. EST No Volunteers for Clinton Secret Service Detail Usually when a sitting president leaves the White House, the Secret Service agents fall all over themselves to get the coveted assignment of guarding their former boss and his family. No so with the Clintons, a source close to the elite protection force tells NewsMax.com. The Clintons, in fact, had no takers as of a few weeks ago, a source close to the Secret Service said. Sources say members of the Secret Service may have had several reasons to avoid working for the Clintons. The Clintons have not had a good track record with their bodyguards. Several went public after Clinton became president, revealing intimate details of the Clintons' lives. While Clinton himself has gotten along well with some of the Secret Service, apparently Hillary is a big turnoff. Another reason is that agents enjoy working for former presidents because the job has many of the same perks, without the same frenetic pace. The problem is no one thinks Bill and Hillary plan to slow down their busy social and political schedules. Clinton isn't the first recent president to get a thumbs-down for volunteers. Secret Service personnel never liked Carter. Carter solved the problem by being the first recent president not to take Secret Service protection after he left office. But soon after leaving the White House, Carter reversed himself and took the protection - largely to get the benefits of having Secret Service agents. These include being ushered to the front of the line attending functions and getting free First Class upgrades on airlines. President Nixon kept Secret Service protection for years after he left office, but said taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill. He hired his own bodyguards. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: No Volunteers for Clinton Secret Service Detail (fwd)
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On 15 Dec 00, at 17:46, Newsmax wrote:
President Nixon kept Secret Service protection for years after
he left office, but said taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill. He
hired his own bodyguards.
Thugs?
But what a great example to set by one of the greatest heros of the
Republicans and ultra-rightwing mouthpiece Newsmax. ;-|
Nixon = Criminal
Newsmax = Newspeak
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[CTRL] Pilot May Have Meant to Crash Silk Air Jet
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[CTRL] Scientists study threat of huge volcanic eruptions
-Caveat Lector- Want to send this story to another AOL member? Click on the heart at the top of this window. Scientists study threat of huge volcanic eruptions SAN FRANCISCO, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Scientists said on Friday they were stepping up research into the global threat posed by massive volcanic eruptions -- devastating and inevitable explosions of magma, ash and gas that promise to have severe and lasting impact on the world's climate. "The risk of volcanic eruptions to human populations is not very well defined," William Rose, a geologist at Michigan Technological University, told a news briefing at the American Geophysical Union. "But the probability of very large eruptions is probably significantly higher than that of meteor impact." At a symposium held at the AGU meeting, volcanologists, atmospheric scientists and other specialists have launched an effort to begin modeling the impact of severe volcanic eruptions, which potentially could be many times larger than the worst experienced in recorded human history. The most powerful recent eruption, Philippine volcano Mt Pinatubo, exploded with astonishing force in 1991 killing 800 people and forcing thousands to evacuate. Pinatubo blasted rock and dust 12 miles (20 km) into the atmosphere -- leading to measurable changes in world weather patterns. Other volcanoes have been even more destructive. Tambora, in Indonesia, blew its top in 1815, killing more than 90,000 people and venting so much material into the atmosphere that Europe effectively lost its summer growing season. And historical records indicate that earlier eruptions were many times more powerful than that. Hans Graf of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, Germany, said a drive was underway to establish a clearer understanding of the effects of volcanic explosion on the atmosphere, which range from venting huge amounts of ozone-damaging chlorine and bromine compounds to filling the skies with aerosol droplets that can absorb solar heat. "This leads to dynamic consequences, like the warming of continents," Graf said. While researchers are only beginning to understand the potential lasting impact of volcanic explosions, scientists are growing more confident of their ability to forecast the deadly explosions more accurately. "It's not so much that we expect one technical breakthrough ... there's a confluence of a lot of things going on that should improve our ability to make predictions in the next 10 years," Stanford University geophysicist Paul Segall said. Volcanologists say the increasing use of satellites to monitor volcanic activity on Earth will help to refine measurements indicating the build-up of magma -- often the precursor to a volcanic eruption. This satellite observation system, which scientists say may develop into a permanent volcano early warning system covering some 600 potentially active volcanoes around the world, will help deliver earlier and more precise notice of volcanic activity -- like the warning delivered before Pinatubo, which enabled the safe evacuation of tens of thousands of residents. "Unlike earthquake prediction, we can actually do something about volcanoes," Segall said. 21:01 12-15-00 Copyright 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PROTEST AT THE INAUGURATION
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 00-12-15 01:22:52 EST, you write: All of the members of the controlling communo-socialist elite are eco-destroyers My point is that the eco-movement should not allow itself to be derailed by the misleading "unity" mantras of Bush. Alfred BTW, I think you are pushing the commo-pinko label a bit too far. One of the sponsoring organizations was founded by a former US Attorney General, Ramsay Clark http://www.iacenter.org/ The other sponsoring organization was put together in 1995 in response to the Republican Contract on America. http://www.peoplescampaign.org/ These are both legitimate political organizations in the USA. _ EcoNews Service - Always online for Exopolitics a Universe Ecology. EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JW: BUSH EMBRACES HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, we, the great unwashed masses, are just s tired of the scandals that we will be 'protected' from further investigation and discussion of them. It's for our own good really! Not surprised, it's biz-ness as usual, with the elites closing ranks and protecting their own. ~ /\/\ == GEORGE W. BUSH EMBRACES HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON Judicial Watch Warns President-Elect To Stay Away (Washington, DC) Yesterday, President-elect George W. Bush, in a telephone conversation with Bill Clinton, embraced Hillary Rodham Clinton by telling her husband, Bill Clinton, that he looked forward to working with the Senator from New York. This has been reported widely in The Washington Post and in other written and television press. During the campaign, Governor Bush showed little interest in ethics issues and, in fact, stated: While its clear that Al Gore engaged in a number of questionable fund raising activities and gave the FBI statements that continue to raise the issue of credibility, the American people are sick and tired of all these scandals and investigations. The best way to put all these scandals and investigations behind us is to elect someone new. Im running to uphold the honor and dignity of the White House. William Safire, in an article entitled Exegesis of Acceptance of August 7, 2000, wrote: Running against Washington. The Yale graduate and child of privilege assumed, Jimmy Carter style, a hardscrabble pose to assert that his background may lack the polish of Washington. And then, following a focus-group distaste for controversy;, he dissociated himself from all investigations into Clinton-Gore scandals, including illegal fund-raising: I have no stake in the bitter arguments of the last few years. Republicans on the unpopular ramparts of the rule of law were coolly informed he preferred civility and respect. While Mrs. Clinton has thus far escaped criminal proceedings by federal prosecutors, she is a defendant in seven Judicial Watch lawsuits and, in particular, the prime defendant in the ongoing $90-million Filegate class-action case. Testimony from a number of sources shows that she was the mastermind of Filegate and, indeed, has smeared a number of political and other perceived adversaries with information from their U.S. government files. In this regard, she and her husband, Bill Clinton, along with others, engaged in criminal conduct, as found by the Court, when she released information from Kathleen Willeys official White House file to smear and destroy her. In addition, the award-winning author, Christopher Anderson, in his book Bill and Hillary: A Marriage, has reported that Mrs. Clinton hired private investigators to dig up dirt on and smear two of Judicial Watchs clients, Gennifer Flowers and Dolly Kyle Browning. For these and other reasons, and even to further his professed goal of bi-partisanship, President-elect Bush should not get into bed with an individual such as Mrs. Clinton, who lately has been attempting to extort millions of dollars from book publishers, with interests before the U.S. Senate, to publish her memoirs and line her pockets further, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Click Here http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/14/politics/14HILL.html Judicial Watch will not rest until Mrs. Clinton is brought to justice, pays large damages to Judicial Watch clients, and is thrown in jail where she belongs, added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. ### = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] [FredOnEverything] Anxiety
-Caveat Lector- By contrast, women have left the secure role, if subordinate and perhaps boring, of being wives and mothers, to enter into self-conscious, avowed competition with men. So far as I know, this has never happened before, anywhere. A lot of women aren't sure they like it. Many don't seem suited to it. Yes. Biology rules...but don't complain ladies...you will outlive us by years. Dying last is the best revenge. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Staffers quit firm over attempt to switch electors
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=144786 Analysis: Staffers quit firm over attempt to switch electors Friday, 15 December 2000 17:43 (ET) Analysis: Staffers quit firm over attempt to switch electors By PETER ROFF, UPI Political Analyst WASHINGTON, Dec. 15 (UPI) -- Two top staffers in a Democratic consulting firm have resigned in a disagreement over a plan to contact Republican presidential electors in an effort to sway them to vote for Al Gore when electors cast their ballots on Dec. 18. Ben Chao, one of two men who resigned from the firm of Bob Beckel and Associates, told United Press International Friday that "Beckel is compiling a report he will send, or may have already sent, to Republican electors on voting patterns, allegations of fraud in the election" and other political and demographic information about the 2000 election. His letter will include "an editorial comment from him reminding the electors they have the option of abstaining from voting in the Electoral College." "I did not think it was in my best interests or those of my clients to be associated in any way with this activity, so I resigned," Chao said, adding that it was an amicable separation Beckel, who heads the firm and managed Walter Mondale's failed presidential race in 1984, is well-known as a frequent guest on political chat shows and as an occasional substitute host on CNN's Crossfire. He did not return telephone calls to his office Friday seeking comment. "He is not doing background checks or opposition research on electors," Chao said. "The report he is going to send them is the only communication he has had or will have with electors." "I think there are any number of people out there with any number of schemes. "It is probably a lot more talk than it is reality," Chao said. "I think Beckel is doing something completely different" from what other people are said to be doing, "and he is working alone." Chao says that any efforts to disrupt the electoral process as it goes forward would be ill-advised. Electors meet in their state capitals Monday to cast their ballots, which are counted in a joint session of Congress Jan. 6. The other staffer who resigned is Bud Jackson. "We Democrats need to be talking about what we are about, what we are for, not what we are against," Chao said. Shortly after the Nov. 7 election, United Press International and other news outlets reported on efforts by Beckel to, using his word, "kidnap" Republican electors who are not bound by law to Republican Texas Gov. George W. Bush and to switch them to Al Gore. After a barrage of publicity and with Gore campaign chairman Bill Daley and recount advisor Warren Christopher publicly disavowing his effort, Beckel softened his tone, saying he was merely compiling information to send to some of the Bush electors. "The simple fact of it (is) that when the Supreme Court decision came down, I got the sense that if three electors flip giving Gore the presidency, he would not accept it," Chao said. "If by some fluke, Al Gore wins a vote in the House, he would not accept it. Therefore, I saw no reason to instigate potential trouble with this report. "I urged [Beckel] not to send the report. He told me 'Ben, this is something I have to do.' At that point, I figured I am a young guy in the business, I make my living working for political candidates, and so I quit." Chao said he still considers Beckel a close personal friend. -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. -- Arms are the only true badges of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave. ~~ Andrew Flet cher 1698 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: No Volunteers for Clinton Secret Service Detail (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- --- MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Volunteers for Clinton Secret Service Detail Ya DON'T supPOSE it would have anything to do with the Klinton Body Count Na. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LIMBAUGH REMAINS KING OF CASH
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X FRI DEC 15, 2000 13:08:21 ET X HOWARD STERN SIGNS NEW MON$TER DEAL; LIMBAUGH REMAINS KING OF CASH **Exclusive** Radio sensation Howard Stern has signed a new five-year multilayered deal, it was revealed on Friday, valued just shy of $100 million, according to sources. Just as Rush Limbaugh's earnings in 2000 will top Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather -- combined, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. MORE Radio's top stars continue to set the payday pace in the media industry. "Howard got everything he wanted," said a well-placed source with direct knowledge of the deal. "Everything." "The only question, really, was whether he wanted to continue with a 5-day a week early morning routine," said the insider. "It was a serious issue." Stern continues to rewrite all compensation records for morning radio. Stern's new deal with VIACOMCBS places him near the top of all media money ranks. "There is no one that works for a living at CBS that will make more money than Howard Stern," said a top source. "The new package is worth more than even those given to CBS's primetime TV stars!" The DRUDGE REPORT revealed last summer that Stern's deal would tip the scales at $100 million. Stern announced the deal on his show Friday just moments before leaving on a three-week celebration vacation. LIMBAUGH BECOMES HIGHEST PAID INFO-BROADCASTER IN HISTORY While Stern's deal is breathtaking in scope, Rush Limbaugh still remains the King of Cash. Limbaugh's earnings in 2000 will top Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather -- combined, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. Limbaugh has become the highest-paid information broadcaster in history, after pulling in nearly $30 million this year, according to sources. Limbaugh receives no salary, rather he keeps a percentage of all revenue he generates on his syndicated show. And Limbaugh's hours continue to be the most lucrative in radio. [ARBITRON ratings trend for November 2000 shows Limbaugh hitting a 5 year high on WABC in New York City.] EARNED NEARLY $1000 A MINUTE Limbaugh earned $968 a minute, based on nearly 31,000 minutes of Limbaugh programming this year. --- Filed By Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2000 Not for reproduction without permission of the author A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: president Bush 12-15-2000
-Caveat Lector- I see it as undermining the legitimacy of a President Bush What legitimacy? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Political Prisoners poisoned in Sierra Leone?
-Caveat Lector- Just an example of the fine material I post daily to http://Leviathan.weblogs.com (From Mathaba.Net) -- Adjustment of UNAMSIL and other Travel Restrictions OFFICIAL PRESS STATEMENT FROM GENERAL ISSA SESAY SUBJECT: ADJUSTMENT OF UNAMSIL AND OTHER TRAVEL AUTHORIZATIONS 13 December 2000. Sierra Leone. General Sesay, who is in regular communication with his website has, today, ordered us to issue the following statement to take effect immediately: "Effective immediately I am ordering that the UNAMSIL 'observers' be barred from entering RUF fields of operations until certain conditions have been met. The conditions, which are nonnegotiable, are as follows: 1. That our leader, Foday Saybana Sankoh, be released from the British/Kabbah political imprisonment and that he be provided safe escort to a location to be mutually agreed upon in advance. 2. That all of the political prisoners of the Revolutionary United Front Party presently being held in British/Kabbah solitary confinement, incommunicado, be released and be provided safe passage to their appropriate destinations to be mutually agreed upon in advance. 3. That our leader, Foday Saybana Sankoh, and all of his political party presently imprisoned, immediately before their release have appropriate blood samples drawn under proper supervision for the purpose of establishing that they have not been injected with life-threatening chemicals during or just prior to their release from prison. The Kabbah government prisoner The Honorable Susan Lahai died shortly, unexpectedly and mysteriously, after being released from the custody of Johnny Paul Koroma. 4. That the British/Kabbah government state and reaffirm that the Lome Peace Agreement is the active document which binds both the Kabbah government and the Revolutionary United Front together; and that immediate steps will be taken to provide for appropriate quarters-mutually agreed upon-to be restored to the Revolutionary United Front in the unity government as agreed in Lome, July, 1999, but not later than 25 January, 2001. Our leader, Foday Saybana Sankoh, and we in the RUF do not want to prolong this conflict. We have been and continue to be committed to the Lome Peace Agreement and see it as Sierra Leone's last, best hope for peace and stability. This peace and stability can only come about if government officials keep their word (both written and spoken) and end the treachery, deceit, attempts to destabilize, and attempts to marginalize our partnership as defined in the Lome Peace Agreement. RUF continues to believe that the Lome partnership can be honored by both sides, forgetting that UN Secretary General Annan did not schedule a meeting with RUF on its recent visit to our land. RUF believes that permitting UNAMSIL and other 'observers' behind our lines will serve no purpose if no equal action of goodwill is made by releasing our leadership, both military and political. If the British government will allow President Kabbah to keep his word to RUF (both written and spoken) progress toward peace, stability and resumption of the implementation of the Lome Peace Agreement is possible. BY COMMAND OF GENERAL SESAY - Http://Leviathan.weblogs.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Radio Havana on our election
-Caveat Lector- Radio Havana Cuba - News Update - 13 December 2000 *Viewpoint: DEMOCRACY ... US STYLE The magnitude of the political scandal that has hit the world's only super-power has sent reverberations around the world. The nation that lectures the world on how to run a democracy -- including elections -- has been shamed into admitting that its problems are similar if not worse than those of many of the Third World countries whose electoral systems it criticizes. Tuesday's decision by the US Supreme Court took a full month after the nation's presidential elections took place. It has effectively put an end to the political battle, opening the way for the Republican candidate George W Bush to enter the White House in January. But it also helped put an end to any notion that the system was "Democratic." This is not the first time in the history of the United States that a candidate has won the election without gaining a majority of the popular vote. This time, however, the very credibility of US so- called Democracy is on the line. Democracy that involves a national voter absentee rate of 50 percent. Democracy that, consequently (and given the vote that Al Gore received), allows the man who takes over as president in January to do so with the support of less than 25 percent of the electorate. Democracy that refuses to allow a serious alternative contender for the presidency to publicly debate the other two principle candidates on national TV. Democracy that allows a state legislature such as Florida's to ignore the vote of its people and decide for themselves who will or will not be given the electoral votes so essential to win this election. Thus, for the first time in its history, a state legislative body of a little over 100 representatives has effectively elected the US president. Democracy that allows two US Supreme Court justices to vote on such an important issue when they both have clear conflicts of interest in doing so. Justice Thomas's wife being directly involved in the Bush campaign, and Justice Scalia's two sons hired as attorneys for two law firms representing the Bush campaign in its arguments to the Supreme Court (and thus, their father) itself. Hardly the notion of the true democratic representational system Washington pundits and politicians are forever lecturing the rest of the world about. Most of the countries that Washington roundly criticizes for not having "democratic" elections have a second round of voting when the first is contested so closely -- but not the self-proclaimed champion of Democracy. The U.S. Supreme Court is the country's highest judicial body and an appeal against any of its rulings has little chance of success. The electoral votes of the state of Florida have been stolen from the people by their so-called representatives and apportioned along strictly partisan lines in a winner-take-all system that defies every notion of Democracy. A new chapter of U.S. electoral history will begin with Bush's inauguration on January 20th 2001. It is too early to say if the status quo that passes for US Democracy will be maintained in the light of this election scandal, but most experts say that once the dust settles everyone will get back to living the same routine. However, there will be many who will nonetheless recall that the man in charge of what he calls the "Greatest Democracy on Earth" for the next four years, will have to come to terms with the fact that he won the election on the political whim of the legislature of his own brother's state without the support of the vast majority of his people. (c) 2000 Radio Habana Cuba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Radio Havana on our election
-Caveat Lector- What a friend they had in Clinton. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Isolationism is hardly the problem
-Caveat Lector- http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-reese121400.column Isolationism is hardly the problem Charley Reese December 14, 2000 I was disappointed to hear the president-elect say that the main problem facing America was isolationism and then issue a silly, macho warning against terrorism. Isolationism is hardly our problem. We are entangled in so many treaties and alliances, and we have American armed forces posted in 100 foreign countries, almost without exception on missions that have nothing to do with either national interests or national security. As for warning terrorists, let's get real. Most terrorist acts are suicidal. So whom is this tough talk supposed to scare? Certainly not men who are prepared to die as long as they can take a few of us with them. I already fear that I will have to adopt a sort of secular prayer in which, from time to time, I will repeat, "Well, at least he's not Al Gore." Terrorism is neither a police nor a military problem. It is a political problem. The new president ought to shut down that cottage industry on the beltway of so-called terrorism experts and concentrate on developing a foreign policy that will not give people just cause to hate us. I hope that no one is so naïve as to think that we are going to escape some kind of payback for having killed 500,000 Iraqi children with the cruelest embargo in human history. It isn't the government of Saddam Hussein we have to fear. We haven't harmed it. It's the Iraqi people whom we have mercilessly tortured. I don't know why it seems so difficult for politicians in Washington to understand. We have no reason on God's green Earth to harm the people of any country on this planet. If we have a quarrel with a government, then let us confine our actions to that government, not to innocent people. Nor should we ever support, in any way, another government that is harming innocent people. When we do, we become accessories, and then their enemies become our enemies. We also ought to stop committing war crimes by bombing or shooting missiles at countries when we are not in a state of war. Reprisals are war crimes. When we respond to an act of terrorism by bombing a country, we are doing exactly what the German army did in World War II when it would killed 50 or 60 civilians in reprisal for an attack on its soldiers. Some Americans have this kooky idea that if you kill innocent people with a bomb or a missile, instead of a rifle, it's not a war crime. It is. The choice of weapons makes no difference. It's just more cowardly to kill at a distance than it is up close. I would like to see some of these politicians who profess to be Christians start acting like Christians instead of decadent and pagan Romans. We should be helping people live better lives rather than destroying them. We should, as George Washington suggested, be extending the hand of friendship and commerce to all the nations of the world while not getting ourselves involved in their internal affairs or regional quarrels. As Americans, we have many, many domestic problems that require our full attention -- aging infrastructure, rampant immorality, a failed government education system, a shrinking agricultural base, a too-expensive medical-care system, polluted air and water, usurpation of power by various government entities, uncontrolled immigration. You probably can add others to my list. Mr. President-elect, isolationism is not the problem; it's part of the solution. Let's dump the aging Cold Warriors and bring some new thinking to our problems. Copyright © 2000, Orlando Sentinel A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal
-Caveat Lector- Exactly as I said, Jesus did Not preach these things as God-given rights. Actually Jesus did preach against these things. Don't fornicate and do unto others...I wouldn't want my child to kill me, so I shouldn't kill my child. Is it that hard to figure out? From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jesus was a Liberal (dose of shrooms)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: There are no supernatural beings. There are no supernatural any things. By definition, nothing is beyond Nature. However, some of Nature we do not understand (yet). Some of Nature we do not even perceive (yet). That is so ironic, Nessie, that you could say that about "Nature" and yet not understand that you are referring to God. Can't you see your own hypocrisy? Don't you realize that there are aspects of God we don't yet perceive? I urge you to read the bible in its' entirety, from front to back(I did it in 3 weeks, surely you can beat THAT!) with an open mind. There is nothing but wisdom to be gained, and I assure you that you will be the better for it. If I could get my hands on an anarchist's writings I would read it, as I've read any literature given to me. Mormons come to my door and I read their book and discuss it with them. The same with Jehovah's Witnesses. I am willing to look at other people's beliefs and then use my MIND to distinguish the truth. From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
