date:20010112


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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:45:11 -0800 "Damian B. Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?
Michael Savage
Monday, Jan. 8, 2001

The Third Wave leftist hoaxsters are pushing "reparations" for
slavery.  Now, slavery ended in the U.S. 130 years ago.  There is


Credit to my college roommate for discerning the following unfulfilled
moral obligation:

"Shouldn't blacks owe reparations to white people for 500 years of
eating missionaries?"

DBC

The missionaries should compensate the Africans for indigestion.

Incidentally, just about everyone could sue the European Union on the grounds that 
their ancestors may have been slaves under the Ancient Greek or Roman civilisations.

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Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden

2001-01-12 Thread goolie smith


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So, if the american embassies are technically US land, then why doesnt the
US hold the trial in abstentia ?
or show the evidence for his guilt to the ruling party in afghanistan (as
they have asked) in order for him to be extradited.

i mean, if the US really wanted him to come to trial, couldnt the goverment
even try to show what evidence it has?

another thing, how come he has only come to light lately ? hasnt he been
blamed for the bombing of the world trade center and an assasination attempt
on the pope and we only hear of him now ?
is it because of 'evidence' that has come to light recently (using the term
loosely) from the CIA ? the same CIA that was underhand enough to flood the
country it is defending with drugs ?

im just curious


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:08:30 -0500

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Well Johannes - Osama bin Laden is a Moslem and obvioiusly an avenger of
blood straight out of the OT.

So the Koran is a peaceful book and it makes me wonder about these so
called Kings in Holy Land..recently Islamic law comes down pretty
hard on people but look at this straight out of Old Testament - Rule of
Law for Israel?

And they put a price on Osama's head?  Who once worked for our CIA and
wants to restore rightful heir to throne in Saudi Arabia -

So I wonder about the avengers of blood - even to the two men on a horse
..these men believe their are God's messengers with legal right to
execute those who do them harm - even Clinton said "let them get the
first shot"..but he forgets culpability law - and provocation - such
thing even as fighting words...

What do you think of this ritual legal murder keeping in mind a King or
a Queen or a President can by Executive Action order execution of whom
they please - as Clinton ordered execution of innocents at Waco for he
used the Military and UN no doubt - look at the avengers of blood who
now await him?

He would probably rather deal with them than Hiliary 

Saba

Those embassies - no proof Osama bin Laden did it, but he, is the bogie
man is he not - a catch 22?   USS Cole - I still remember USS Liberty


The King James Bible
at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia
Deuteronomy, chapter 19
"1": When the LORD thy God hath cut off the nations, whose land the LORD
thy God giveth thee, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their
cities, and in their houses;
"2": Thou shalt separate three cities for thee in the midst of thy land,
which the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it.
"3": Thou shalt prepare thee a way, and divide the coasts of thy land,
which the LORD thy God giveth thee to inherit, into three parts, that
every slayer may flee thither.
"4": And this is the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that
he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not
in time past;
"5": As when a man goeth into the wood with his neighbour to hew wood,
and his hand fetcheth a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and
the head slippeth from the helve, and lighteth upon his neighbour, that
he die; he shall flee unto one of those cities, and live:
"6": Lest the avenger of the blood pursue the slayer, while his heart is
hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and slay him; whereas he
was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he hated him not in time past.
"7": Wherefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt separate three cities
for thee.
"8": And if the LORD thy God enlarge thy coast, as he hath sworn unto
thy fathers, and give thee all the land which he promised to give unto
thy fathers;
"9": If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I
command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his
ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these
three:
"10": That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy
God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.
"11": But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and
rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into
one of these cities:
"12": Then the elders of his city shall send and fetch him thence, and
deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die.
"13": Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of
innocent blood from Israel, that it may go well with thee.
"14": Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old
time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land
that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it.
"15": One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or
for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses,
or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
"16": If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him
that which is

[CTRL] Raoul Wallenberg


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http://leviathan.weblogs.com


From

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1113000/1113114.stm

Wallenberg riddle lives on



Wallenberg's disappearance is still a mystery

A Swedish diplomat who helped thousands of Jews escape Nazi-occupied Hungary may not 
have been killed by the KGB in 1947 as Moscow has claimed.
A joint Swedish-Russian commission has concluded that Raoul Wallenberg may have been 
kept alive in Soviet jails as a bargaining chip.

However the commission's report, which follows a 10-year investigation, failed to draw 
any definite conclusion.



The original motive may have been to use Raoul Wallenberg in an exchange

Commission report
Wallenberg was arrested by Soviet troops who entered Budapest in 1945, and disappeared 
without trace.

Russia said last year that he had been executed during Stalin's purges in 1947. But 
his relatives believe he survived until at least the 1970s with a hidden identity in a 
Soviet gulag.

The commission said the Russian version could not be confirmed "beyond any reasonable 
doubt".

It said there was no credible death certificate, and it could not dismiss testimony 
which said Wallenberg had been seen alive after 1947.

Many former prisoners claim the diplomat was alive as late as the 1970s and 1980s.

Two outcomes

The commission's report said there were two main theories as to his fate:

that he died in July 1947 probably "of unnatural causes", or
that he was kept in isolation, with the intention of handing him over "in an exchange"
The working group called for governments with relevant information to open their 
archives.

On Friday, Sweden released most of its classified material on the subject.

In recent days there has been much speculation in the Swedish press that Sweden 
rejected opportunities to exchange Wallenberg for Soviet defectors or spies.

Some media reports suggest that as late as the 1960s Sweden refused to exchange him 
for Stig Wennerstrom, a Swede who spied for the Soviet Union.

Different versions

Wallenberg - a member of one of Sweden's most prominent families - worked as a Swedish 
diplomat in German-occupied Budapest.



Swedish papers are thought to have saved thousands of Jews

He distributed Swedish identity cards to Jews threatened with deportation to 
concentration camps, and won diplomatic protection for whole neighbourhoods of the 
city.

Backed by the Swedish Government and the United States, he is thought to have saved 
tens of thousands of lives in this way.

But when Soviet forces expelled the Germans from Budapest in 1945, they arrested him 
on suspicion of spying.

The Soviet Union initially claimed that he had been killed in the streets of Budapest.

Political victim

Then, 12 years after his disappearance, it admitted that he had been taken to Moscow's 
notorious KGB headquarters, the Lubyanka, where he was said to have died of a heart 
attack in 1947.



Russia says Wallenberg was killed in 1947

When Russia rehabilitated Wallenberg last December, it admitted he was a victim of 
political repression.

On that occasion, the prosecutor-general's office said no evidence had been found of 
any criminal case against him, or his driver Wilmos Langfelder, and they had been 
deprived of their freedom without any grounds.

His rehabilitation came in the aftermath of a Russian investigation which last year 
concluded that he had been executed in 1947, aged 34.

Details of where or exactly when he had died were not provided.

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[CTRL] The secret designs of the Globalists

2001-01-12 Thread PM Kansan1225

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  "OTIQ..." wrote:

Subject: Re: Kansan1225: "I received it."
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First, the numeric/alphabetical equivalences ( Elizabethan systems ):

   http://www.sirbacon.org/links/doddnum.html

   Now, some coherences of note:

   PAA 103 explodes at 7:17 UTC, Wednesday December 21, 1988c.e.
after crossing 3W longitude near the Scottish border, its shattered
remains falling on the town of Lockerbie. All 259 on board as well as 11
on the ground are killed, some 52 minutes after the 747 left London's
hexagonal Heatherow airport.
   In simple cipher, "Shakespeare" = 103; in K cipher, 259.
   Moreover, the Globe actor, and attributed author of the plays and
verses of "Shakespeare", died at the completion of his 52nd year, on
April 23, 1616c.e.
   According to the pre-christian system of chronology, the year (
in Dec. of 1988 c.e. ) is 2764 O.E. ( Olympic Era ).

   2765 days later, on Wednesday, 7-17-98c.e., TWA 800 explodes at
approx. 72deg.48min. West longitude, some 53 miles east of New York's
JFK airport ( PAA 103's intended destination ) and 800 miles NE of
Atlanta - a city more deserving of the name "Phoenix" - on the eve of
the Centenial of the modern Olympics. The year of the ancient Olympic
Era is 2772. The downed 747 had flown from Athens, Greece to JFK and was
in route to Paris, the city wherein the Olympic Games had been
resurrected in 1896c.e. All 230 on board were killed.
   A few days later, the Atlanta Games became the second of the
modern games to have suffered a terrorist attack ( with that of Munich
1972c.e. wherein 11 Isreali athletes were killed ).

   Within 3 minutes of precisely 111 weeks after TWA 800's take off,
SwissAir 111 departs from JFK at 8:17 EDT ( or 7:17 EST ), following the
same flight path. At 33,ooo feet, having crossed 66W longitude [Francis
Bacon, Viscount St. Albans - "Bacon" = 111 in K cipher, 33 in simple -
"died" and was resurrected at the age of 66, on Easter Sunday, 1626c.e.]
smoke is detected in the cockpit. Some 17 minutes later, the 747 crashes
a dozen or so miles from Oak Island, Nova Scotia, where Francis Bacon is
believed to have buried, in an unfathomable pit, the manuscripts of
Shakespeare's 1623 Folio, which he authored, as well as those
manuscripts of the 1611 King James Bible translation, which he edited.
The flight was 73 minutes long.
   All 229 on board were killed. Only some 229 copies of the 1623
Folio, from an original printing of 1000, are known to be still in
existence.

   Lord Bacon's cipher blueprint of his works - ABECEDARIUM NATURAE
- pairs 12 "Inquisitions", numbered 67 to 78, with 12 letters of the
Greek alphabet.
   The 72nd is "the threefold Omega: concerning Meteors".
   Note: in the Greek numerical cipher system, Omega = 800. An
eyewitness of TWA 800 recounts an arc of light which followed the
"course and trajectory that you see when a shooting star enters the
atmosphere."
   ABECEDARIUM NATURAE, the 73rd Inquisition: "the fourfold Alpha:
concerning Being and Not Being".
   Note: the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek Alpha is Aleph; in the
Hebrew numerical cipher system, the word Aleph = 111.

   "I AM OMEGA AND ALPHA, THE END AND THE BEGINNING, THE LAST AND
THE
   FIRST"

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77, 111.

 bad Kansan. 33, 111 good.

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 Very good: Globe, AZ  - coordinates proximate to 33N  111W and being
along route 77 - is a place where much unearthing goes on.

  The secret designs of the Globalists.

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Re: [CTRL] Mind Control Mayhem? Bronx, NY


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Obviously his name was Legion, for he is many...the
demoniac...no doubt lives in a cave somewhere?

Might do well to find if he mixed his drinks with drugs..there are
many of these people loosed upon the public.incuding the guy who
said he was a McDermott but was not, for that was not his
namethat guy looked like a fruit cake too.

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[CTRL] THE FANATICISM OF LINDA CHAVEZ


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THE FANATICISM OF LINDA CHAVEZ
By Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe

January 11, 2001


Linda Chavez has only herself to blame
for the fact that she won't be the next
secretary of labor.  Frankly, she should
have known better.

She should have known better than to
open her heart to a stranger in need.  Let
alone a stranger who had just spent 10
days in a shelter for battered women.  Let
alone a battered woman who couldn't speak
English,had very little money, and was
fleeing a country racked by civil war and
political murder.

What was Chavez thinking?  Was she out
of her right-wing mind?  How could she and
her husband have allowed Marta Mercado to
share their home while trying to get her
life in order and obtain a green card?
How could she have driven Mercado to
English classes?  Or showed her how to get
around on the subway?  Or occasionally
given her -- of all things!  --
spending money?  She must have been
deranged to think she could extend
such compassion to another person and get
away with it.

Anyone who's been around Washington as
long as Chavez has knows that people who
aspire to government power and influence
don't do such things.

You think Senator Ted Kennedy, who lost no
time calling Chavez's extraordinary
generosity "a very troubling new
allegation," would let a homeless Central
American refugee move in with *his*
family?  You think John J.  Sweeney, the
AFL-CIO boss who declared war on Chavez and
pronounced her relationship with Mercado
"really unfortunate," is going to drive
some battered woman with no green card to
her English classes?

Oh, no.  Nosiree.  It's all well and
good to talk about helping the vulnerable
and being kind to strangers and the-
greatest-of-these-is-charity.  But to
actually live that way?  To respond to the
misfortune of another human being with
genuine self-sacrifice?  To show concern
for the poor by reaching into your *own*
pocket?

Real Washington players know that only
a fanatic behaves like that. And that was
just the point that Kennedy and Sweeney --
and People for the American Way's Ralph
Neas and the National Council of La Raza
and all those other leftist mouthpieces
that joined in assailing Chavez -- were
trying to make about her all along: She's
a fanatic.

And she persists in her fanaticism!
"Knowing everything that has happened over
the last week," she said at her press
conference on Tuesday, "if that woman
showed up at my door, if I was asked . . .
to do that again, I would do it in an
instant, without hesitation."

She probably would.  She and her
husband have a history of bending over
backward to help immigrants and others in
difficulty.  They opened their home to the
Bui brothers, refugees from Vietnam.  They
paid for private school for the children
of Ada Iturrino, a single mother from
Puerto Rico.  They aided Margarita
Valladares in becoming a citizen and
getting her first job.  "They are a family
who help anybody, no matter who the person
is," Valladares said Tuesday afternoon.
"No matter what the problem, they are
always there."

And to think such a woman almost
became secretary of labor.

Would-be future Cabinet secretaries,
you're on notice: If you meet an
undocumented immigrant whose life is a
shambles, don't do what Chavez did.
Call the Immigration and Naturalization
Service instead.  Get that foreigner
deported.  After all, "harboring an
illegal alien" -- as the New York Times
lectured in its editorial cheering
Chavez's fall -- "is a felony."

So stifle any urge you may feel to do
the decent thing.  Remember: It isn't your
job to help the luckless and forlorn.
It's the federal government's job.  That's
why we have those Cabinet departments in
the first place.  What kind of society
would we be if ordinary men and women
started going out of their way to take
care of each other without waiting
for Senator Kennedy to introduce a bill
making it legal?

And let's hope there will be no more
flouting of the immigration laws in the
name of a higher moral code.  At her press
conference Chavez said, "I don't check
green cards when I see a woman who is
battered and who has no place to live and
nothing to eat."  Man, this extremist just
doesn't get it: In America we *do* check
green cards, thanks to the Immigration
Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) and
the harsh sanctions it imposes on anyone
caught employing an illegal immigrant.

That law isn't on Washington's radar
screen anymore, but not long ago you could
have heard some of the very voices that
this week denounced Chavez denounce with
equal passion the cruel provisions of the
law she is accused of skirting.  Kennedy
called them "inherently unfair" and
introduced a bill to repeal them.  Neas
found them "morally unacceptable."
La Raza said they were "intolerable."

They were right.  IRCA is a shameful
law.  It punishes Americans for giving
immigrants jobs that other Americans don't
want.  It fosters discrimination against

[CTRL] Fw: Ultraconservative Rep. CA John G. Schmitz, 70

2001-01-12 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld


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An interesting tidbit is that this guy is the father of Mary Kay LeTourneau, the 
school teacher who has a
sexual proclivity for little boys...

June


 

 Thursday, January 11, 2001

 Fiery O.C. Ultraconservative Schmitz Dies

 Obituary: Colorful political career saw him battle his own GOP along
 with liberals. It ended in personal scandal.

 By DAVID HALDANE, JEAN O. PASCO, Times Staff Writers

  John G. Schmitz, the ultraconservative Orange County politician
 whose fiery rhetoric and flamboyant antics defined right-wing Southern
 California Republicanism for nearly two decades, died Wednesday. He
 was 70.
  "Congressman John G. Schmitz played a significant role as a state
 senator and a member of the House of Representatives during a very
 colorful era of politics in the Orange County community," Thomas A.
 Fuentes, Orange County Republican Party chairman, said in a statement
 released late Wednesday. "His sense of humor, intelligence and
 enthusiasm will long be remembered by his Orange County friends."
  Schmitz, who associates said had been suffering from cancer for
 some time, died about 1:45 p.m. in Washington, D.C., where he had
 lived for many years, according to a statement from the local party.
  Schmitz led a colorful life during his political career, which
 ended in scandal when it was divulged that he had a mistress who bore
 two of his children. Years later, his daughter was also embroiled in
 scandal when she was convicted of having a sexual relationship with a
 13-year-old student.
  Schmitz first made the headlines in 1962 while stationed at El
 Toro as a Marine officer teaching other Marines about the dangers of
 Communism. Using nothing more than the sheer authority of his voice,
 he disarmed an assailant who was stabbing a woman by the roadside near
 the Marine Corps base. Although the woman died, Schmitz's reputation
 as a hero--and the roots of his political career--were made.
  The next time his picture was on the front page was in 1964 as
 Orange County's newest Republican state senator, a position to which
 he was reelected in 1966.
  By then, Schmitz had attracted the support of such wealthy
 conservatives as fast-food magnate Carl Karcher, sporting goods heir
 Willard Voit and San Juan Capistrano rancher Tom Rogers. So when the
 county's longtime conservative Rep. James B. Utt died and local
 Republicans needed a successor, Schmitz--by then a national director
 of the ultraconservative John Birch Society--was a natural choice.
  Using such slogans as "When you're out of Schmitz, you're out of
 gear," a parody of a well-known Schlitz beer commercial, the Wisconsin
 native who had grown up scrubbing beer vats won easy election in 1970
 and moved his family to Washington.
  Schmitz soon established himself as one of the country's most
 right-wing and outspoken congressmen and just as quickly enraged his
 most famous constituent, part-time San Clemente resident President
 Richard Nixon.
  Of Nixon's historic visit to China, Schmitz, whose political hero
 was Sen. Joseph McCarthy and who considered the visit a sellout,
 quipped, "I have no objection to President Nixon going to China. I
 just object to his coming back."
  The congressman's fellow Birchers laughed, but the president was
 not amused. By election day, neither was Schmitz, who lost his seat to
 a more moderate candidate.
  But his political career was far from over. In 1972, after
 Alabama Gov. George Wallace was seriously wounded when shot by a
 would-be assassin while campaigning for president, Schmitz was drafted
 by Wallace's American Independent Party to run against Nixon. He
 collected more than a million votes but lost much of his longtime
 Orange County support.
  "He was operating on a higher level of politics than any of us
 had the guts for," recalled former Schmitz campaign treasurer Tom
 Rogers. "His philosophy was unbending, even for his fellow
 Republicans, and he never doubted his own abilities and was never
 humble . . . until it was too late."
  In 1978, Schmitz won a second state Senate seat, representing
 Newport Beach as a Republican. By then, though, caustic remarks about
 Jews ("Jews are like everybody else, only more so"), Latinos ("I may
 not be Hispanic, but I'm close. I'm Catholic with a mustache") and
 blacks ("Martin Luther King is a notorious liar") had grown so
 outrageous that he was beginning to lose the support of even the John
 Birch Society, which eventually dumped him.
  He also got into trouble with feminist attorney Gloria Allred
 after criticizing her support of abortion rights by calling her a
 "slick, butch lawyeress." A lawsuit she filed resulted in a $20,000
 judgment against him and a public apology. Schmitz drew fire as well
 by issuing a press release referring to the audience at a series of
 hearings he chaired on abortion as consisting

[CTRL] My Name Is Legion


Now I thought I would forward this to anyone interested for this bible
chapter is a most important chapter - as far as my bible code goes.

Note the demoniac - naked, and stupid and either drunk or drugged most
of the time..remember the Swine Flu and the Legionaires - who were
murdered that day - in July, became ill and many died - and the Swine
Flu Shot Gerald Ford took to prove it was safe (boy that guy did play
football too long without a helmet and probably inhaled).

So here in this cryptic chapter we find old nazi experiment - and we
also find My Name Is Legion, and the disease enteres into the swine who
panic and many die because of italso the land of the Gadarenes?
Gad in the bible, see Genesis - they are the Overcomers.

Now speaking of Overcomers, MLK started his crusade to Mt. Nebo on day
Gad rules the stars.with a song in their heart, We Shall Overcome,
but King was the ultimate victim invited to his death by CFR Jerry Wurf
and his gang who headed up AFSCME -AFL-CIO one of the first labor
leaders in the 60 period to sell out after JFK was murdered who joined
CFR - my how important this asshole must have felt sitting with ex CIA
and former Presidents and the new rich coming up with no principles but
thank God, they still had Kissinger who is still arouond but I hope he
has not been cloned.

Anyway you read this Chapter...only those with the mind to see will
see what I see..and really not much imagination is needed -

Day the Legionaires were afflected with "Legionaires Disease"..there
was a Catholic Church seminar or something - and some of the readings
for murder and sickness of Legioinaires is straight out of the exorcist
rituals.

So we had the demoniac who killed the 7 people who said he was a
McDermott and I knew that was a lie - he was hispanic but looked like
demoniac - note the mention of the 7 devils  - and then next day 7
people murdered in area where they said was crack house - just kids most
of them.

Then this wild man running down the street naked like demoniac..who
will be chained hopefully and put in the nut house where he belongs.

But thing of this - just today it was reported there are 7 million
illegal Mexicans in this country.wonder how many of them voted?

So has Clinton and Jesse turned loose the Mexicans too - programmed
drugged killers with messages from God.

Oh some of this stuff would be suspect even if I did not have a bible
calendar timed datewise to some of this stuff - from golden treasures
ships to murders of Presidents, sabatage of Apollo and murder of little
Princess - but one has to have the gift maybe of a second sight, to see
what I see -or does one.

Saba

So "We Shall Overcome" or is it "We Shall Overthrow"go climb Mt.
Nebo Jesse.

The King James Bible
at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia
Luke, chapter 8
"1": And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city
and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of
God: and the twelve were with him,
"2": And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and
infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
"3": And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many
others, which ministered unto him of their substance.
"4": And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him
out of every city, he spake by a parable:
"5": A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the
way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
"6": And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it
withered away, because it lacked moisture.
"7": And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and
choked it.
"8": And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an
hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath
ears to hear, let him hear.
"9": And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be?
"10": And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the
kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not
see, and hearing they might not understand.
"11": Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
"12": Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil,
and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe
and be saved.
"13": They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word
with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time
of temptation fall away.
"14": And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have
heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of
this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
"15": But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good
heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with
patience.
"16": No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel,
or putteth it under a bed;

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN says

2001-01-12 Thread Jenny Decker


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Yes; it seems to explain why pharmaceutical companies are a hot investment.
Their influence in our "democracy" has the media "predicting" a wonderful
new rise in the market for their products, just as the media "predicted" the
"win" of George Bush through their repetitive statement of how "daily polls"
were turning out.
Gee, I guess this pretty much identifies Reuters as one of the goon
media for the elite.
JD
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 Guess this explains some tings.
 KS


 -Mental disorders set to rise, UN says

 Depression will be second leading cause of death by
 2020

 REUTERS

 Jan. 9 - Mental and neurological disorders - ranging
 from depression to Alzheimer's and epilepsy - strike
 400 million people globally and are set to surge in
 the next two decades, the World Health Organization
 said Tuesday. By 2020, depression would jump to be the
 second greatest cause of death and disability
 worldwide, following ischemic heart disease, the
 United Nations health agency predicted.

  'We know that 70 percent of those suffering from
 major depression can fully recover if properly
 treated.'
 - DR. BENEDETTO SARACENO
 WHO  WHO officials attributed the projected
 rise in depression to factors including more stressful
 lifestyles, poverty and violence. Alzheimer's disease,
 a debilitating dementia which hits the elderly, is
 expected to increase as people live longer.
They spoke at a news briefing to launch WHO's
 2001 campaign aimed at removing myths and stigmas
 linked to such disorders, whose slogan is "Stop
 exclusion - Dare to care."
"This (campaign) is overdue, given that mental
 health is a major cause of disability, family and
 community distress and loss of production," said WHO's
 Dr. Derek Yach.
Dr. Benedetto Saraceno, director of WHO's
 department of mental health and substance dependence,
 said: "Mental health disorders, neurological diseases
 is a major public health concern worldwide. There is a
 common myth that mental health problems are those of
 rich, industrialized countries, a luxury.
"But mental and neurological problems are
 equally important in rich and poor countries," he
 added.

 400 MILLION SUFFERERS
Some 400 million people today suffer from
 mental and neurological disorders worldwide, according
 to Saraceno.
"Unipolar major depression is today considered
 fifth in the ranking of major causes of disability and
 it is expected to jump to second place in 2020," he
 said.
At present, depression is the fifth leading
 cause of death and disability, while ischemic heart
 disease trails in sixth place, according to the
 Geneva-based WHO.
The table is currently topped by acute lower
 respiratory infections, according to the WHO which
 says infectious diseases are generally expected to
 fall.
Depression, often genetic, hits roughly twice
 as many women as men, according to WHO experts.
The Americas and Western Pacific regions -
 essentially the United States and Japan - have the
 most victims of depression, with the lowest rates in
 Africa, according to Saraceno.
"Surveys in Brazil, Zimbabwe, India and Chile
 show the more impoverishment - measured by hunger,
 level of debt and education - the higher the
 prevalence of common mental disorders," said Yach, a
 South African.
  Advertisement


  Mental and neurological disorders represent
 11 percent of the "global burden of disease," a figure
 based on mortality and disability, according to
 Saraceno. The figure is expected to represent 14
 percent in 2020, he said.
Saraceno: "The good news is that mental health
 treatment does not require very expensive
 infrastructure."
"We know that 70 percent of those suffering
 from major depression can fully recover if properly
 treated," he added. "We can expect a decrease in
 suicides if we are properly treating depressed
 people."

 ONE MILLION SUICIDES
Globally, there are one million suicides a year
 out of a total of 10 million attempts, he added. The
 top 10 countries for suicide are composed of all
 former Soviet Union states, led by Russia, where many
 are reeling in economic and social upheaval.
Schizophrenia, a chronic disorder, affects 45
 million people worldwide, with about half of the
 victims achieving full "social recovery," according to
 Saraceno.
He praised India and China for their programs
 for treating and supporting schizophrenic patients,
 combing use of generic psychotropic drugs and human
 resources.
"Different diseases are prominent in different
 regions, with one exception. Schizophrenia is
 ubiquitous - you will find the same rate of
 schizophrenia in Los Angeles and central Africa,
 probably because there is a very

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN says


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Well now that all the natural drugs have been sythentisized - the heat
is on, isn't it.they are drugging lititle babies and elementary
school childen and at same time feeding them slop and pepsi in the
schools - pepsi for kids?  No wonder some of these kids have rear ends
the size of a hippo.they need fresh juice from apples and oranges
and grapes not slop from the pepsi generation which was pushed by the
pedophile Michael Jackson - weirdo "it".

So now they get tough on drugs and Admiral Crowe and his henchment are
going to take our chidren back to the poppy fields where the snow will
fly for the next 40 years, only this will be legal prescribed snow.

For the crack houses - imagine much of this stuff is poisoned with all
kinds of thing to spread diseaseas if the cocaine was not bad
enough.

And you wonder why?   Well a pill costs $80.00 each for cancer patients
- which is $2,400 a month or so for warding off nausea, etc. from
chemothehrapyyet a man died in prison who was denied marijuana
which is grown in the back yard free if necessary - he died in agony and
painanyone going through chemotherapy knows how ill - deathly ill,
one can become.

So now is the time like in days of Al Capone - made big bucks selling
illegal booze and then came God, who said Let There Be Beer..whie
Lucky Luciano to the day of his death, supported your local WCTU with
the hope they would return to prohibition.

Look at some of these new rich - like this one man now a billionaire -
everytime big drug bus his stock on wall street flopped - but now, with
all his billions he is given tab abatement?

The pore million and billionaires.they are now buying and have since
1964, into the drug companies...you see JFK was having all the drug
companies investigated to 1930 before he was murdered..know this one
man who became millionaire bying into drug company after JFK murdered in
the streets of Dallas, in the open a high 12 murder.

So much for companies.and if I want some pot, I will grow some pot
and I  will smoke it - only I do not smoke.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] IT will change the world!

2001-01-12 Thread Mulva Jenkins


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New member here...


What is the it website URL?
I'm working on a project called Gilligan. It will change the world too. What
a coincidence ;)

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:32:48 -0800

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I finally got through to the "IT" website--everyone in the US must have
been
accessing it over the last 24 hours.
 Does anyone know if there is a chat site that is recording guesses as
to
what "IT" is?  I have ideas, based upon the reference to "Ginger" . . .
Jenny Decker
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Subject: [CTRL] IT will change the world!


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  Tuesday, January 9, 2000
  From The Inside,
  http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=20218pod_id=8
 
  What Is 'IT'? Book Proposal Heightens Intrigue About Secret Invention
  Touted as Bigger Than the Internet or PC
 
  Steve Jobs quoted on accomplished scientist's new device: 'If enough
  people see the machine you won't have to convince them to architect
  cities around it. It'll just happen.' A venerable press pays $250,000
  for a book on project cloaked in unprecedented secrecy. EXCLUSIVE
 
  Got a clue? Post your guess as to what IT is.
  by PJ Mark
 
  Tuesday , January 09, 2001 01:43 p.m.
 
  Harvard Business School Press executive editor Hollis Heimbouch has just
  paid $250,000 for a book about IT -- but neither the editor nor the
  agent, Dan Kois of The Sagalyn Literary Agency, knows what IT is.
  All they do know: IT, also code-named Ginger, is an invention developed
  by 49-year-old scientist Dean Kamen, and the subject of a planned book
  by journalist Steve Kemper. According to Kemper's proposal, IT will
  change the world, and is so extraordinary that it has drawn the
  attention of technology visionaries Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs and the
  investment dollars of pre-eminent Silicon Valley venture capitalist John
  Doerr, among others.
 
  Kemper -- who has been published in Smithsonian, National Geographic and
  Outside among others -- has had exclusive access to Kamen and the
  engineers at his New Hampshire-based research and development company,
  DEKA, for the past year and a half. He tags the proposed book as Soul of
  the New Machine meets The New New Thing and won over his agent and
  publisher with e-mails describing the project in carefully couched
  language. He also included an amusing narrative of a meeting between
  Bezos, Jobs, Doerr and Kamen.
 
  The invention itself is as interesting as the inventor. Kamen is 'a true
  eccentric, cantankerous and opinionated, a great character,' the
  proposal says, with large gaps when it comes to pop culture.
 
  In the proposal, Doerr calls Kamen -- who was just awarded the National
  Medal of Technology, the country's highest such award -- a combination
  of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison. Doerr also says, a touch ominously,
  that he had been sure that he wouldn't see the development of anything
  in his lifetime as important as the World Wide Web -- until he saw IT.
  According to the proposal, another investor, Credit Suisse First Boston,
  expects Kamen's invention to make more money in its first year than any
  start-up in history, predicting Kamen will be worth more in five years
  than Bill Gates. Jobs told Kamen the invention would be as significant
  as the PC, the proposal says.
 
  And though there are no specifics in the proposal as to what the
  invention is, there are some tantalizing clues. Is IT an energy source?
  Some sort of environmentally friendly personal transport device? One
  editor who saw the proposal went as far as to speculate -- jokingly
  (perhaps) -- that IT was a type of personal hovering craft.
 
  Consider the following items, culled from the proposal:
 
  IT is not a medical invention.
 
  In a private meeting with Bezos, Jobs and Doerr, Kamen assembled two
  Gingers -- or ITs -- in 10 minutes, using a screwdriver and hex wrenches
  from components that fit into a couple of large duffel bags and some
  cardboard boxes.
 
  The invention has a fun element to it, because once a Ginger was turned
  on, Bezos started laughing his ''loud, honking laugh.''
 
  There are possibly two Ginger models, named Metro and Pro -- and the
  Metro may possibly cost less than $2,000.
 
  Bezos is quoted as saying that IT ''is a product so revolutionary,
  you'll have no problem selling it. The question is, are people going to
  be allowed to use it?''
 
  Jobs is quoted as saying: ''If enough people see the machine you won't
  have to convince them to architect cities around it. It'll just
  happen.''
 
  Kemper says the invention will ''sweep over the world and change lives,
  cities, and ways of thinking.''
 
  The ''core technology and its implementations'' will,

[CTRL] TESTIMONY SHOWS NO SUPPRESSION OF VOTERS IN FLORIDA


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{{Amazing!!  Out of the "thousands" they came up with only three under OATH
and penalty of perjury if found lying.  And these three DID vote, actually,
they just had "concerns."  Well, I suppose it is fun to "play" Civil Rights
Activist for wannabees born too late.  It does afford bigots with an
unwarranted prejudice against another region of the country to show what
asses they are, too.  Remember where you read it first.  Now whose claims
are "outrageous, untrue and refuted"?  Not mine!  Watch CSPAN ll for full
coverage today.  AKE}}


Testimony shows no suppression of voters in Florida
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 Visit our Election 2000 page
for daily election news and analysis

 TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - None of three black voters called as witnesses
before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, investigating charges of a
"conspiracy" to block minority voters, could show yesterday that they had
been denied their right to vote in the Nov. 7 election. Top Stories
 The key leadoff witnesses -John Nelson, the Rev. Willie D. Whiting and
Roberta Tucker, all of Tallahassee - testified under oath that they had
concerns and had read about problems concerning voter irregularities, but
that all of them had voted at their polling precincts.
 Mr. Nelson said he saw unmanned police cars near separate polling
precincts on Election Day and thought that was "unusual." Mr. Whiting said
his name had been purged from the voting rolls after he had wrongly been
identified as a felon, but he was allowed to vote after a call to an
election supervisor. Miss Tucker said she was stopped at a police roadblock
near a polling place, but she was allowed to proceed after producing a valid
driver's license.
 The commission, which voted unanimously last month to investigate
accusations by the Rev. Jesse Jackson and the National Association for the
Advancement of Colored People of widespread voter fraud involving
minorities, could not explain why no witnesses were called to verify the
accusations.
 The hearing continues today and again next month in Miami.
 Meanwhile, Gov. Jeb Bush told the commission that a preliminary
investigation into the charges found no evidence of wrongdoing, but
inquiries by both state and federal authorities are continuing.
 Mr. Bush, subpoenaed to appear before the commission, said he was
"confident" the Florida Attorney General's Office and the U.S. Justice
Department would uncover voter irregularities if they exist.
 "I am confident that the attorney general's office and the U.S.
Department of Justice are the proper authorities to deal with these issues,"
Mr. Bush told the commission, adding that he had appointed a separate task
force headed by former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith to look into
widespread problems involving voting procedures and faulty equipment.
 The state task force began its hearings on Monday and has until March 1
to make recommendations to the governor prior to the start of the state's
legislative session.
 The Civil Rights Commission voted to begin an investigation after Mr.
Jackson and the NAACP said Florida officials and law enforcement authorities
had engaged in a conspiracy to deny minority voters access to the polls.
 Commission Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry described the accusations as
"a very serious problem" and told reporters that "we know some bad things
happened," despite the fact the commission was unable yesterday to produce a
single witness during the day-long hearing to say they had been denied
access to a polling precinct.
 Mr. Bush told the commission that the roadblock in Tallahassee reported
by Miss Tucker had been set up two miles from a polling precinct as part of
a random police check on drivers and vehicles. Law enforcement authorities
confirmed that 150 vehicles were stopped and 18 warnings were issued, a
dozen to white motorists. They said the officers stopped every fifth
vehicle, without regard to the occupant's race.
 The governor did not elaborate on the Justice Department probe, only
confirming that it was under way. Justice Department officials have said
only that lawyers from its civil right division had been in Florida, but
that no decision had yet been made on whether a formal investigation would
be undertaken.
 Mrs. Berry said she had not yet reached any conclusion on whether there
was "a systematic conspiracy to discriminate" against minority voters, but
said state officials were responsible for ensuring that elections are "fair
and efficient."
 "I am religiously and studiously avoiding reaching any conclusion of
what happened here," she said. "I have not concluded that there was a
conspiracy."
 She also noted that Florida law allows the governor to appoint "special
officers to investigate violations of election law," but had not yet decided
whether the evidence was sufficient to suggest that he should have done so.
 "I just don't know yet," she said.

[CTRL] Fat Kids


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So in Wichita, Kansas they note a problem - but neglect to mention who
is reaping the profits from the proceeds from these vending machines?
This is a kick back virtually, and all monies should go into a general
fund - for instance police departments used to pocket money from vending
machines in our area until State Examiner ruled now way - even though it
went to buy things they wanted or thought they needed - the money
belongs to the taxpayers and not to the police or to the schools.

Pepsi has kickback to the schools and Pepsi has 120 calories a can,
unless your kids drink the aspartame stuff which they say is deadly, and
you do not lose weight or control weight with that stuff either.   It
used to be the phoney sweetners were meant for people who could ot use
sugar - who had diabetes and I imagine diabetes will be on he rise if
the kids continue to eat this slop in schools so someone makes a fast
buck.

Twinkies, potatoe chips, pepsi - what is wrong with an apple, an orange,
or bananas - eat one of those a day and you will not need coal tar
product vitamins.   Or good juices.

Articles like the followiong make me sick, but at least thanks to the
web for there has been much on his as of late, people might wake up to
he fact we are killing our children andmaking hyper - and that includes
this hypoglycemia over active kid stuff where they now want to drug them
rather than feed good diet.sweet covered cereal - turning in to real
cereal killers?

So much for that.see Wichita grow fat and unhappy..

Saba




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A student helps himself to a bag of chips from one of the school
district's vending machines.
Vending machines in school WICHITA, Kansas, January 11  Wednesday we
heard the report that school lunches aren't to blame for the alarming
increase in the number of overweight children in the U.S.
  Miss a story? Be sure to visit our 'Week in Review'
  Watch KSN News Video online!
  BUT SCHOOLS MAY PLAY ANOTHER role in the building of the
bulge. You can find vending machines in the hallways of most of
Wichita's middle and high schools these days. "We can by pop, or candy
or chips or anything we want without getting in trouble," said student,
Eric Delgado.
But some believe the vending machines are contributing to
our children's' poor eating habits and are an unhealthy temptation for
students. "If you're really hungry, and you have the money to come here,
you'll come here no matter what," said student, Kennedy Turner.
Even school officials agree that a vending machine menu is
not the best choice. "It isn't the healthiest stuff in the world, that's
for sure," said Robinson Middle School principal, Kathy Busch.
But Bush says not all kids are making unhealthy choices. She
also says the public schools do a good job providing healthy
alternatives. "We got a great salad bar here, we provide them with a
good breakfast."
Even more encouraging news is a national report that says
cafeteria lunches are leaner and more nutritious than they use to be. It
says schools have lowered the overall fat content of meals from 38
percent of calories to 34 percent of calories, exceeding the new
standards set by the USDA.
Sharon Carlson   "We have worked diligently to get the menu
in line with the national standards," said school nutritionist, Sharon
Carlson. "The recommendation is 30 percent and we are below that."
While that's good news, some say having vending machine
menus in the schools might be defeating the purpose. "If they eat only
the items from the machines, and not all the other items, yes, then it
could be," said Carlson.
The principal at Robinson Middle School says they don't
hesitate to turn the vending machines off if kids abuse them. The
district nutritionist adds that schools are often asked not to have the
machines on during lunch periods.
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[CTRL] Clinton and Democrats Are Shameless


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Clinton and Democrats Are Shameless
Neal Boortz
Thursday, Jan. 11, 2001
Several of the newspapers I went through today tell of the absolute joy
within Democratic ranks over their Borking of Bush labor secretary appointee
Linda Chavez. Party leaders were heard boasting that "Ashcroft is next!"
As long as the media remain on their side and the Republicans show no fight,
these Democrats are going to roll over every Bush appointment and policy
objective that shows the slightest blemish or crack - all while calling on
Republicans to be bipartisan.

In an even more despicable display of Democratic politics, President Clinton
attacked the legitimacy of his successor, George W. Bush.

At an appearance in Chicago yesterday, Clinton - speaking of the 2000
presidential election - said: "By the time it was over, our candidate had
won the popular vote, and the only way they [the Republicans] could win the
election was to stop the voting [sic] in Florida."

So, there you go. Clinton acting like the partisan ass he has always been.
Throughout the long history of this country there has been a lasting
tradition of presidents leaving office treating incoming presidents with
nothing less than grace and dignity. President George Bush, the
President-elect's father, showed this courtesy to Clinton.

Apparently the tradition ends with the sociopath who currently occupies the
White House. Here he is, 10 days before he leaves office, challenging the
very legitimacy of the man who will succeed him. It was a crass political
act. Of course, that means it was totally in character for Clinton.

And his little jab was, of course, factually wrong. George W. Bush won the
election in Florida by getting the most votes under the rules that were in
place on the day those votes were cast.

The Democrats, on the other hand, tried to steal the election by changing
the rules by which people cast their votes and the way those votes are
legally counted. The Supreme Court of the United States found this approach
to be illegal and put it to a halt.

Skirting the lawful, accepted way of governing is Clinton's style, as noted
by his secretary of the interior, Bruce Babbit, yesterday.

Babbit blabbed about the incredible job that he and Clinton have done in
protecting natural treasures. He said he and Clinton accomplished, through
executive orders and regulations, 80 percent of what they had not
accomplished through legislation. He then warned Bush to tread very
carefully in undoing what Clinton has done, because the actions have such
broad public support.

You're the public. Do you think that rule by executive fiat is all that hot
an idea?

The Clinton plan was very simple. If you can't use the legislative process -
the legal process - to accomplish a goal, then just accomplish that goal by
executive order or issuing a new regulation. This is most certainly NOT the
way our founding fathers thought the federal government should operate, as
if Clinton gives a damn what our founding fathers thought.

Now they're warning the Republicans of dire consequences if they try to
return to the concept of rule by law!

Still, the Clinton charisma continues to charm poll participants. A new
CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows that the majority of Americans - 51
percent - are glad Bill Clinton is leaving office, although 45 percent said
they will miss him. And 55 percent think Bill Clinton still has something
"worthwhile" to contribute and should remain active in public life.

Forty-seven percent said Clinton would go down in history as an outstanding
or above-average president. But 68 percent said he would be remembered more
for his scandals than for his accomplishments. And 58 percent answered "no"
when asked whether Bill Clinton was honest and trustworthy.

How does this man muck around with our personal freedoms, increase the size
and intrusiveness of our federal government, weaken our national defenses,
and still get a 55 percent job approval rating at the end of his term? How
can people look at the train wreck of this scandal-plagued White House and
want Bill Clinton back in public life after he's left office?

Are that many Americans truly that blind?

Neal Boortz is the hugely popular nationally syndicated radio host.

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Stop and think about it.seven (7) million illegal Mexican immigrants
in this country - enough to control any election?   How many illegal
immigrants from Cuba and Mexico in Florida all voting  and you see the
Clionton Gore strategy and the theft of a nation.

Isn't it enough Americans have recently lost another 100,000 good paying
jobs = and I cannot get over even Huffy bicycles moving to Mexico.

Televisions made in Mexico and China - I had a Zenith go bad in less
than a year - made in Mexico...and then I bought another one which
fortunately was hit by lightning some years laterand I got a new one but
it was made in America...

So they have cheap labor coming into this country and cheap labor in
China and Mexico and what I love are the immigrants who are now
primarily food handlers while disease spreads.

7 million illegal Mexican immigrants which government now wants to
legalize rather than ship back..so now will the blacks and Mexicans
have a war to see who can murder the most whites in a week?   They are
off to good start.two blacks just kids just murdered 6 or 7 people
in Wichita, raping and torturing some of victims.and then McDermott
who was not Scotch but Mexican - who murdered 7 people.so has Jesse
and the Democrats loosed these killers on the whites?

So keep your powder dry - be careful when eating out for as Jesse
jackson said he loved to spit in the food cooked for white
people..yet he fears to walk down a street in a black neighborhoo -
even though they are, his kind of peple.

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Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?


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And blacks in Columbus area are taught that blacks invented the clock?

But when you get on web into history you find that most of the slave
ships were owned by Jews and it was black Africans who sold the black
slaves to the ship owners.now here is where black africans can
really make fast buck

Then since you can go back on the Nazis - I want reparations for the
death of my father .and in history going way back every American who
lost a son or a  father or a husband should have reparations...

But the most sincere arrangement would be to paya these blacks their
"reparations" on the condition they return to Africa and let the
descendents of the slave ship owners pay their way.   One way tickets -
free of charge, for those who want to return to the jungles and aid
invested country.what would their lives be like today in South
Africa or the Sudan for these slaves who came to America were NOT wanted
by heir own, and in fact, were in some instances cannibals and some
swinging from trees living with the monkey.

Hate to be insensitive but I find it difficult these days to be
sensitive to a group of people who are plotting to destroy us from
within with considerable help from their former "slave ship owners
descendents".

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[CTRL] BRITISH HANDGUN DEATHS RISE DESPITE HANGUN BAN]


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 THE GUARDIAN UNITED (London, UK)
 Thursday January 11, 2001 2:27 am

 42 Deaths As Use Of Handguns Hits Seven-year High
 From Ananova (a UK cyber news service)

 http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/breakingnews/UK/0,2478,665043,00.html



 Use of handguns in crime in England and Wales reached its highest level
 for seven years in 1999-2000.

 This is in spite of the ban on private ownership of the weapons
 introduced in the wake of the Dunblane massacre.

 There were 42 people killed with handguns during the period - more than
 in any other year in the 1990s.

 Some 3,685 crimes involving handguns were recorded in 1999-2000,
 including 42 homicides, 310 cases of attempted murder, 2,561 robberies
 and 204 burglaries, the Home Office revealed.

 The total was more than one-third (37%) up on the previous year, and the
 highest level since the Dunblane tragedy in March 1996, when 16 children
 and a teacher died.

 The details were released in a parliamentary written answer by Home
 Office Minister Lord Bassam of Brighton.

 A ban on all private ownership of handguns became law in November 1997,
 but handgun offences have risen each year since then.

 Levels of handgun offences were higher in 1992 and 1993, at 3,997 and
 4,202 respectively, but in each year there were fewer homicides than in
 1999-2000.

 The higher figures then were down to a far greater incidence of
 robberies using handguns, which reached a peak of 3,605 in 1993 before
 falling every year until 1999-2000, when they jumped from 1,814 to
 2,561.

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[CTRL] Jesse Walking on the Ceiling


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 {Yet ANOTHER example of the Liberal thinking "I spit on you but you damn
well better be nice to me."  I hope Bush never speaks to this troublemaker
again. He is not to be believed--see Florida Voter Suppression for an
example of his fake "causes."  AKE}

Jesse Walking on the Ceiling
John L. Perry
Jan. 12, 2001

Jesse Jackson's upside-down view of politics: I worked against you for
president and denounced your presidency as "illegitimate," so here's my list
of demands.
His Reverence obviously does not have Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends
and Influence People" on his bedside table.

When Strom Thurmond bolted the Democratic Party in South Carolina and became
a Republican, a certifiable yellow-dog Democrat then publisher of the
Anderson Independent ordered that henceforth whenever the senator's photo
appeared it was to be printed upside down, with the caption: Stands-on-Head
Thurmond.

The press really ought to take to doing that with Jesse, for that is
precisely the perspective from which he regards the passing political scene.

The guy is absolutely a cock-eyed wonder. He needs to be in a museum before
he disappears inside his own concentric circling.

There was a time if you desired an elected official who would do things you
favored you found a candidate who agreed with you and you went to work to
elect him. Or at least voted for him.

Not Jesse.

It's almost as though he doesn't want his candidate to win. His
stock-in-trade is beating up on winners whom he worked, ineffectually, to
defeat.

Suppose you've just been elected president of the United States in a close,
heated election.

You receive two phone calls.

The first is from someone who worked his tail off on your behalf and was a
loyal supporter throughout the campaign. He helped you carry a crucial
state.

Now he's asking you to do something not inconsistent with your campaign
pledges.

The second call is from Jesse Jackson, who worked his tail off trying to
defeat you in about every state in the Union and just finished telling a
national press conference that you stole the election and your presidency is
illegitimate.

Now he's reading off a whole long laundry list of things - none consistent
with your campaign pledges - that he demands, not requests.

Which phone call, if you haven't lost all your marbles, are you least likely
to give more sympathetic attention?

Indeed, which phone call are you morally obligated to treat sympathetically
if the nation is to take your integrity seriously?

What is it about Jesse that he just doesn't understand why people are not
ordinarily inclined to pat those dogs on the head that lift their legs on
them?

In one of Jeffery Deaver's novels there appears a colorful character from
the movie industry who arranges for a Hollywood stunt man on location to
suspend himself from boots bolted to the ceiling of the film director's
hotel room.

When the hapless director, stoned on something, stumbles into the room, the
dangling stunt man sings out, "Man, you're on the ing ceiling! How do
you do that?"

There's a temptation to denounce Jesse for his idiotic ceiling-walking.

However, should he arrive, with television-news cameras in tow, to exploit a
scene of turmoil in a neighborhood near you, don't boo. Not even if he's
accompanied from the choir loft by Maxine Waters and Her Center City
Screamers.

That just gives him what he wants - evidence he's being taken seriously.

There are times in politics when the only antidote to the idiotic is a big,
old-fashion horse laugh.

"Hey, Jesse! Man, how do you do that?"


John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on
White House staffs of two presidents, is senior editor and a regular
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[CTRL] Targeting Good People: The Liberal Slander Machine at Work


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 Targeting Good People: The Liberal Slander Machine at Work
 Phil Brennan
 Wednesday, Jan. 10, 2001
 They're at it again. The same slimy crew that smeared Clarence Thomas and
 Judge Bork and turned their confirmation hearings into torture chambers
are
 now zeroing in on three of President-elect Bush's Cabinet nominees, one of
 whom they've already driven out of the running.
 What's behind this revival of the Salem Witch trials? What's motivating
 these people to start erecting tent poles on which they hope to hang the
 scalps of good and decent people?

 The answer is simple. For one thing, they ARE good and decent people, and
we
 certainly can't have that sort running things in post-Clinton America.

 That's the main thrust of the attack on John Ashcroft - he is a good man,
a
 devout Christian, a dedicated public servant, a patriot and a man
committed
 to the rule of law. And those are all qualities the left abhors. They
prefer
 an attorney general in the image of Janet Reno, a women who possesses none
 of Ashcroft's virtues and most of the vices the left cherishes.

 Listen to the litany of charges against John Ashcroft and you'll hear a
 recitation that betrays the absolute dedication of the liberal chorus to
 their agenda of corruption, public depravity, total contempt for the rule
of
 law and the sacredness of human life.

 Some of the witless anti-Ashcroft rhetoric has bordered on the absurd. One
 of his critics, for example, expressed horror at Ashcroft's alleged kind
 words about Robert E. Lee and T.J. Jackson. Imagine, finding something
good
 to say about Stonewall Jackson, a man so sunken in depravity that his
motto
 was "Duty is mine, Consequences are God's." Obviously one's admiration of
 anyone who could say things like that disqualifies that person for high
 office. Words such as "duty" and "God" are not part of the left's
 vocabulary, and one's use of them sets off all sorts of alarms in what
 passes for the liberal mind.

 Among the serious charges being leveled against John Ashcroft is his
 dedicated opposition to the slaughter of the unborn - certainly a position
 that flies in the face of our current pagan morality, which elevates
 convenience above morality. I heard one senator voice the fear that
because
 Ashcroft opposes abortion he would be unable to enforce laws against
 violence at abortuaries - an accusation that falls flat on its face when
one
 considers that he is a firm adherent of the rule of law and therefor bound
 to enforce it even when it is distasteful.

 His record of racial tolerance has been writ large, time and again, yet he
 is being tarred with the racist brush because he opposed the elevation to
 the federal bench of a soft-on-crime black judge whose apparent motto is
 "Turn 'em loose."

 The campaign of vilification of this fine man is being waged on false
 grounds. The reasons cited for refusing him confirmation are not the real
 reasons for the left's opposition. They are against making him attorney
 general because they are frightened out of their wits by the prospect of a
 good and honest attorney general being turned loose at the Justice
 Department and being in a position to turn over the rocks and discover
just
 how corrupt the Clinton administration and its attorney general were over
 the past eight years.

 These people want the sleeping dogs of the Clintonite criminality to be
 allowed to lie because they fear if awakened they will turn out to be
rabid
 pit bulls capable of tearing hordes of Clintonistas to shreds. Nothing
 strikes more fear in the hearts of scoundrels than an honest man in a
 position to assure that justice is done.

 The left's motivation for opposing Linda Chavez was similar to that which
 causes them to oppose Ashcroft. The rest was just nonsense being elevated
to
 wisdom by the simpering sophists of the mainstream press who are currently
 promulgating every rumor about what they wanted to be a case of nannygate
as
 if it was fact.

 Chavez scared the left because she has firm principles and opinions that
she
 does not fear to express. Much mischief has been done at the Labor
 Department Bush wanted her to head, and the mischief makers knew she'd
undo
 much of the damage they have done. Moreover they knew she'd continue to
 speak her mind about the absurdity of their brand of opportunistic
 liberalism. They got her, but they haven't heard the last of her.

 Finally, the eagerness for the potential hangings of Bush nominees shown
by
 some of the Democrats in the Senate is simply the result of the fact they
 have their eyes firmly fixed on the 2002 congressional elections and their
 lust to regain full control of Capitol Hill. As a result, they will do
 anything, no matter how slimy, to achieve that goal, even if they have to
 destroy those they know are good and decent Americans in the process.

 And to hell with the United States of America. Power is the name of the
 game.

 Domine Miserere Nobis

[CTRL] ART BELL


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X
 I have had several people asking off list about Art Bell and their local
 station affiliate.  Although I am the one who had never been able to find
 his program before, I did find this page on his website.  BTW, it is
 http://www.artbell.com.  Hope this helps.
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Friends of Liberty, International
Action Alert
January 12, 2001
http://www.friendsofliberty.com/action.htm

Do WHAT?!!!
by Shonda Ponder
http://www.friendsofliberty.com/2001/00106_01.htm

The Las Vegas Review-Journal, Thursday, reported that a Narcotics officer
who had sex with a 16-year-old will not be charged with any crime because it
would be "discriminatory" toward homosexuals.

Can you believe this?

If a teacher or a fireman or anyone else had sex with a boy or girl of the
opposite sex, they would get charged before they could even get their pants
back on. Where does the Constitution protect those who are "discriminated"
against because they are heterosexuals?

What is so sad about this story is that he is also currently under
investigation for stalking and furnishing alcohol to a minor. What I want to
know is WHY in the HELL he was still a NARCOTICS OFFICER!

If this pervert gets to keep his job, there should be an uprising among the
people of Las Vegas, Nevada that rivals no other uprising ever. Remember the
riots in Los Angeles? I would think it would be time for another one.
Especially in like of this statement by Clark County District Attorney
Stewart Bell:

"We in essence concluded neither the state nor the federal authorities are
able to pursue the sexual offenses. It discriminates against a class of
people, and that's not allowed under the equal protection clause of the
Constitution."

Excuse me? Where are the heterosexuals in Las Vegas, Nevada? Will they not
stand up to be protected under this "equal protection clause"? When did it
become okay to charge a heterosexual, but not a homosexual?


Excuse me while I go puke.

Excuse me while I lose my temper.

Mr. Stewart Bell, are you prepared to stand there and tell me that if I were
living in Las Vegas, Nevada, and my son was involved, that I would not have
the right to protect my son because the pervert was a HOMOSEXUAL? That "only
heterosexuals need to apply" for charges against them?

I think not.

And, if Las Vegas does not stand up to this abomination, then they deserve
to have a 50 foot high chain-link fence surround the city with a ditch of
fire to keep the perverts in where they can feed upon each other until
eternity has arrived.

God help this country if everyone is as twisted as they.

Write to these people. Make the phone calls. Tell them YOU ARE OFFENDED!

Clark County District Attorney's Office
200 South Third Street, 7th Floor
Las Vegas, NV 89155
Telephone: (702) 455-4711
Fax: (702) 455-2294

District Attorney
STEWART L. BELL
200 South Third Street, 7th Floor
Las Vegas, NV 89155
Telephone: (702) 455-4711

Assistant District Attorney
J. CHARLES THOMPSON
200 South Third Street, 7th Floor
Las Vegas, NV 89155
Telephone: (702) 455-4711

Assistant District Attorney
MICHAEL D. DAVIDSON
500 So. Grand Central Parkway, 5th Floor
Las Vegas, NV 89106
(702) 455-4761

Clark County Courthouse
200 South 3rd Street
Las Vegas , NV 89101
Phone: (702) 455-3500
FAX: (702) 455-3558


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Re: [CTRL] Clinton and Democrats Are Shameless

2001-01-12 Thread Kris Millegan


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This article is so much tripe and positioning by the powers-that-be.

Then poor repub,  and the gracious GWB as he was leaving office defied judges
orders and gave a cush job to a gentleman and stole government property as
his last act.

Real interesting tripe has been floated. The psy sets are trying very hard to
divide and get us all fighting each other.

Both Bush and Clinton were put in office by the same folks. Do not be led to
fight your fellow citizens.

The perfect slave thinks he is free.
In a message dated 1/12/01 7:57:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

At an appearance in Chicago yesterday, Clinton - speaking of the 2000

presidential election - said: "By the time it was over, our candidate had

won the popular vote, and the only way they [the Republicans] could win
the

election was to stop the voting [sic] in Florida."



So, there you go. Clinton acting like the partisan ass he has always been.

Throughout the long history of this country there has been a lasting

tradition of presidents leaving office treating incoming presidents with

nothing less than grace and dignity. President George Bush, the

President-elect's father, showed this courtesy to Clinton.

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Re: [CTRL] IT will change the world!

2001-01-12 Thread Mulva Jenkins


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More Info From CNET's AnchorDesk

MYSTERIOUS INVENTION 'BIGGER THAN PC'

http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?/adeskb/adt0112/2673881:17322488

   No news spreads as fast as a good secret. The latest
   secret is an invention by Dean Kamen that some tech
   heavyweights say is bigger than the PC and likely
   to change the world. I'll tell you what we know and
   give you a chance to sound off.

Peat


From: Jenny Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] IT will change the world!
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:32:48 -0800

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I finally got through to the "IT" website--everyone in the US must have
been
accessing it over the last 24 hours.
 Does anyone know if there is a chat site that is recording guesses as
to
what "IT" is?  I have ideas, based upon the reference to "Ginger" . . .
Jenny Decker
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Subject: [CTRL] IT will change the world!


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  Tuesday, January 9, 2000
  From The Inside,
  http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=20218pod_id=8
 
  What Is 'IT'? Book Proposal Heightens Intrigue About Secret Invention
  Touted as Bigger Than the Internet or PC
 
  Steve Jobs quoted on accomplished scientist's new device: 'If enough
  people see the machine you won't have to convince them to architect
  cities around it. It'll just happen.' A venerable press pays $250,000
  for a book on project cloaked in unprecedented secrecy. EXCLUSIVE
 
  Got a clue? Post your guess as to what IT is.
  by PJ Mark
 
  Tuesday , January 09, 2001 01:43 p.m.
 
  Harvard Business School Press executive editor Hollis Heimbouch has just
  paid $250,000 for a book about IT -- but neither the editor nor the
  agent, Dan Kois of The Sagalyn Literary Agency, knows what IT is.
  All they do know: IT, also code-named Ginger, is an invention developed
  by 49-year-old scientist Dean Kamen, and the subject of a planned book
  by journalist Steve Kemper. According to Kemper's proposal, IT will
  change the world, and is so extraordinary that it has drawn the
  attention of technology visionaries Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs and the
  investment dollars of pre-eminent Silicon Valley venture capitalist John
  Doerr, among others.
 
  Kemper -- who has been published in Smithsonian, National Geographic and
  Outside among others -- has had exclusive access to Kamen and the
  engineers at his New Hampshire-based research and development company,
  DEKA, for the past year and a half. He tags the proposed book as Soul of
  the New Machine meets The New New Thing and won over his agent and
  publisher with e-mails describing the project in carefully couched
  language. He also included an amusing narrative of a meeting between
  Bezos, Jobs, Doerr and Kamen.
 
  The invention itself is as interesting as the inventor. Kamen is 'a true
  eccentric, cantankerous and opinionated, a great character,' the
  proposal says, with large gaps when it comes to pop culture.
 
  In the proposal, Doerr calls Kamen -- who was just awarded the National
  Medal of Technology, the country's highest such award -- a combination
  of Henry Ford and Thomas Edison. Doerr also says, a touch ominously,
  that he had been sure that he wouldn't see the development of anything
  in his lifetime as important as the World Wide Web -- until he saw IT.
  According to the proposal, another investor, Credit Suisse First Boston,
  expects Kamen's invention to make more money in its first year than any
  start-up in history, predicting Kamen will be worth more in five years
  than Bill Gates. Jobs told Kamen the invention would be as significant
  as the PC, the proposal says.
 
  And though there are no specifics in the proposal as to what the
  invention is, there are some tantalizing clues. Is IT an energy source?
  Some sort of environmentally friendly personal transport device? One
  editor who saw the proposal went as far as to speculate -- jokingly
  (perhaps) -- that IT was a type of personal hovering craft.
 
  Consider the following items, culled from the proposal:
 
  IT is not a medical invention.
 
  In a private meeting with Bezos, Jobs and Doerr, Kamen assembled two
  Gingers -- or ITs -- in 10 minutes, using a screwdriver and hex wrenches
  from components that fit into a couple of large duffel bags and some
  cardboard boxes.
 
  The invention has a fun element to it, because once a Ginger was turned
  on, Bezos started laughing his ''loud, honking laugh.''
 
  There are possibly two Ginger models, named Metro and Pro -- and the
  Metro may possibly cost less than $2,000.
 
  Bezos is quoted as saying that IT ''is a product so revolutionary,
  you'll have no problem selling it. The question is, are people going to
  be allowed to use it?''
 
  Jobs is quoted as saying: ''If enough people see the machine you won't
  have to

[CTRL] MONEY WHAT IT IS HOW IT WORKS

2001-01-12 Thread Michael Pugliese


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http://wfhummel.cnchost.com/tableofcontents.html

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Re: [CTRL] IT will change the world!

2001-01-12 Thread Jenny Decker


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Hi Peat and list,

Your mention of Gilligan I believe is the correct reference to "Ginger"
as a codename for Dean Kamen's "It." I'm going to make my own prediction
(you are all witnesses) today ( 12 Jan 2001) as to what IT is.

First of all, Kamen talked about this mechanism last year and ruled out
its being a medical device (unlike the earlier items he invented). See
http://www.wirednews.com/wired/archive/8.09/kamen_pr.html
with a Kamen interview from August 2000 where he says that

"Another project, to be unveiled in the next year, will necessitate building
"the largest company in New Hampshire," Kamen says with characteristic
bravura. He's shy about details, except to say it involves a consumer device
unrelated to health care and will require $100 million in financing. Among
the investors: Kleiner Perkins. "

Here is the Kleiner Perkins website:
http://www.kpcb.com/news/kpcb.php. I've not had the chance to read all of
it, but what I've read shows that this firm has truly evolved ideas about
the financial support of rebel genius entrepreneurs. Their investments don't
appear at all to be corporate-driven; if anything the reverse. In fact, the
mechanism may well undermine the corporate structures that holds Americans
hostage to their archaic supplies of petroleum, natural gas, coal-driven
poluting power, etc. I believe THIS is why Kamen says that all Americans
will want it, but the goverment (read patsy of the corporate interests) may
try to prevent them from having it.

Second, Kamen's firm "DEKA" (go back to first website) has been planning, as
of Aug 2000 to build a "STIRLING ENGINE":
"Lately, Kamen has broadened his work beyond health care. He believes
technology and ingenuity can solve all kinds of social ills - like
pollution, limited access to electricity, and contaminated water in many
third-world countries, where bacteria from human feces in drinking water is
a leading cause of cholera. To help ameliorate the water problem, Deka's
team of 170 engineers is working on a nonpolluting engine - funded by
several million dollars of Kamen's own money - based on a concept first
floated in the early 1800s but never realized.

"The device is called the Stirling engine; Kamen hopes it can be developed
into an affordable, portable machine that will run a water purifier/power
generator that could zap contaminated H20 with a UV laser to make it safe
for drinking. "It can burn any fuel, and you can do all kinds of things with
it," he says. "It might be very valuable in emerging economies, giving them
access to electricity, even the Net."

IN OTHER WORDS, THE STIRLING ENGINE COULD BE USED BY THOSE STRANDED ON A
DESERT ISLAND TO MYSTERIOUSLY BRING THEM ALL THE GRACIOUS CONVENIENCES OF
CIVILIZATION, MUCH AS GINGER MYSTERIOUSLY HAS A PRISTINE DRYCLEANED EVENING
GOWN, FRESH HAIRDO, MAKEUP AND SEX APPEAL WITHOUT ANY ACCESS TO CONVENTIONAL
SOURCES OF THESE.

See this website for fuller explanation of the Stirling Engine:

http://me.mit.edu/2.670/Stirl/stirl.html


More from Kamen's website: "The development of a marketable Stirling device
has eluded the brightest engineering minds since Robert Stirling, a Scottish
minister, patented the first version in 1816. The basic principle of
Stirling's external combustion engine is simple: A chamber is filled with a
gas that expands as it is heated by a small heat source, such as a propane
flame, and contracts when cooled. The process operates a piston and drives
the engine. The advantage? Cheap, local fuels can be used to run the
engines, and Kamen has adapted his model to produce electricity instead of
mechanical power.

"But producing the thing is a more complex matter. While many have tried to
use Stirlings to power drive shafts for vehicles, they have proved too
expensive to manufacture on a mass scale, and they're not always efficient
enough. One low tech problem is designing seals that guard against waste as
the heat is transferred into a form that does useful work.

"Deka's version heats a chamber containing helium, under pressure, and Kamen
says it can run on gasoline, propane, fuel oil, diesel, alcohol, or even
solar power - with one-fifth the emissions of a gas stove. Deka's engineers
think they'll succeed where others have failed because they've ironed out
all the kinks. "We looked at the history of the Stirling - all the money and
time and expertise poured into it - and identified a half-dozen key goofs
that previous teams had made," says project leader Chris Langenfeld.
"Seventy percent of it was a materials challenge. We had to track down the
right composites to use as seals."

Kamen hopes that his family of Stirlings, five years in development, will
soon bring portable electricity to nations without a reliable power grid -
or any grid at all. He envisions briefcase-sized Stirlings powering cell
phones and cell towers, as well as purifying water. He aims to have them on
the market in the next two years, and is currently working on the

[CTRL] AFP Kosovo Serb hospital chief blames cancer hike on NATO uranium

2001-01-12 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic














The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, Belgrade, YU


  
  
  
   KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, 
  Yugoslavia, Jan 11 (AFP) - The director of the main hospital in the 
  northern, Serb-majority part of Kosovo, on Thursday blamed depleted 
  uranium NATO munitions for what he said was a huge increase in cancer 
  cases in his region.  Milan Ivanovic, himself a Kosovo Serb, 
  told AFP that cancer cases referred to the Serb hospital in Kosovksa 
  Mitrovica had shot up by 200 percent since NATO's 1999 air campaign 
  against Yugoslavia.  "I think the main reason for the 
  sizable increase in cancer cases, which numbered 160 last year, 
  could only be due to NATO's bombardment with depleted uranium (DU)," 
  Ivanovic said at the hospital.  "I think the figure will 
  go up still further, with many cases not yet diagnosed," he added, 
  explaining that the elderly were worst affected but that there had been an 
  "abnormal" increase in cases among men of military age.  
  He offered no scientific evidence to support his statement, however. 
   On Wednesday Marko Jaksic, leader of the Democratic Party 
  of Serbia and a senior ally of President Vojislav Kostunica of 
  Yugoslavia in the breakaway province of Kosovo, told the news agency 
  Beta that army reservists had been struck with DU-related cancers. 
   Ivanovic said that four cases of throat cancer had come from 
  a single village sited near a television transmitter targeted by 
  NATO jets during the bombardments.  "40 percent of my 
  patients come from areas which were bombarded by depleted uranium," 
  he said.  Ivanovic also claimed that there had been an 
  increase in the amount of babies born dead, prematurely or 
  deformed.Mrs Jela Jovanovic, art historian 
  
  Secretary 
General

[CTRL] Robert Lederman and David Icke

2001-01-12 Thread Michael Pugliese


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Nessie, this Lederman dude is a crank. Uses LaRoucheite book on Bush
(Tarpley and Chaitkin) and much worse has same booking agent as nutter David
Icke and relies on his "research."

Michael Pugliese
Subject: Shady Pines Robert Lederman
(http://www.levymultimedia.com/lederman/)


 Oh God! He has the same agent as David Icke! Horrified but not
surprised. Now if only he represented Paul Krassner. Had dinner with him
once yrs. ago in the Haight after he did a book signing. Talked about Larry
Flynt.


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[CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?




 IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE?  
 New claims that Sir 
Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes  
part in human sacrifice rituals. 
 Major 
revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. 
 
by DAVID ICKE  
 Many people were understandably 
shocked and skeptical when  Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, 
Revelations of a Mother Goddess,  that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head 
of the ancient Royal  
Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who 
 took part in Satanic human 
sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. 
 Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, 
Duncan Roads, have been  
particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir 
 Laurence Gardner has been 
massively promoted by Roads and his  magazine. 
 
But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also 
 
witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk 
mind  
control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence 
Gardner  
played a major role. 
 
Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien 
 Connection; The Healers Handbook; 
As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the  Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was 
a victim of the now extensively  documented mind control operation at Montauk 
Point from the age of 14 in the early  seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk 
Boys". 
 He has never named names before, 
but has now chosen to talk to me  about his experience of Sir Laurence, who has 
gained fame in recent years  on the New Age and Holy Grail "circuit" for his 
books claiming that the  
Merovingian bloodline is the bloodline of Jesus. His best known works 
are  Bloodlines of the 
Holy Grail and the Genesis of the Grail Kings: The  Explosive Story of Genetic Cloning and the 
Ancient Bloodline of Jesus. 
 
I have most strongly contended in my own books and talks that this 
claim  
about the bloodline of "Jesus" is a diversion from the fact that the 
"Holy  
Grail" or Merovingian bloodline is a key reptilian bloodline from 
which  
vast numbers of people in royal, political, economic, religious, and 
military  
power today, genetically descend. It is the desire to maintain this 
reptilian  
genetic structure which has led to the obsessive interbreeding for aeons 
to  the present day of 
the "elite" families. 
 Sir Laurence himself calls these 
"Holy Grail" bloodlines the "dragon"  bloodlines, but claims that this term derives 
from the use of crocodile  fat in the royal ceremonies of ancient Egypt. I 
would contend that the  
word "dragon" has a much more fundamental meaning than that. 
 These bloodlines, which have 
invariably ended up in the positions of  power since pre-history, have a much more 
dominant reptilian genetic  code which has resulted from interbreeding 
thousands of years ago  
between a reptilian race (the "Serpent" race of endless legend) and 
the  mammal-dominated 
bloodlines which we call "human". 
 Sir Laurence claims that the dragon 
bloodline, which he connects  to the House of Stewart, has the right to the 
British throne and  
indeed that these bloodlines have the right to rule in  
general. According to him the senior legitimate  
descendant in this line is HRH Prince Michael  
Stewart, Count of Albany, although the  
background to this guy is being increasingly  
questioned and there are claims that he has  invented the title. 
 Sir Laurence also talks in positive 
terms about the drinking of  menstrual blood, or "Starfire", which, 
interestingly, was the  
Illuminati code name of Arizona Wilder, the "Mother Goddess" who 
conducted  sacrificial 
rituals for the Illuminati in a mind-controlled state (See Revelations of 
a  Mother Goddess and 
The Biggest Secret). You can read at length what Sir Laurence is 
 claiming on this link: (Starfire 
Article) 
 In my view it is classic 
disinformation or what I call gin and tonic with a twist. A great 
 deal of truth, spun with the idea 
that these dragon bloodlines are not literally reptilian  and are, instead, the genetic stream of Jesus 
and Mary Magdalene. In an article in  Nexus Magazine, he acknowledges that ancient 
legends said these lines were literally  shape-shifting reptilians, but in an obvious 
swipe at The Biggest Secret, he says that it is  astonishing in these more enlightened times 
that anyone can still believe it. 
 Sorry, Sir Laurence, the evidence 
will overwhelm you and is already beginning to do so.  
 
Laurence Gardner has quite a CV: Chancellor of the Royal  
Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, which first emerged in  
Egypt in around 2,200BC and is now based in Britain; Prior 
 
of the Celtic Church's Sacred Kindred of St Columba, and  
an "internationally known sovereign and chivalric  
genealogist" Chevalier Labhran de Saint Germain,  
"Presidential Attache to the European Council of Princes - a 
 
constitutional advisory body established in 1946" formally 
 
attached to the Noble Household Guard of the Royal House

[CTRL] The Duke of Windsor gave military secrets to Adolf Hitler

DUKE OF WINDSOR
"TRIED TO PASS MILITARY SECRETS TO HITLER"SAYS NEW BOOK.by David
Icke
The Duke of Windsor, who abdicated in 1936 to marry the
American divorcee, Wallis Simpson, gave military secrets to Adolf Hitler, a new
book claims.The author, Martin Allen, claims to have a letter written by
the Duke to Hitler, dated November 4th, 1939, two months after the start of the
war. It begins "Dear Mr. Hitler" and is signed "EP" - Edward Prince, a term
which the Duke sometimes used. The letter talks about a tour of the
French frontline, which the Duke had made for the British military high command
and he asks Hitler to pay close attention to information which the man taking
the letter to Berlin had memorised. This man was Charles Bedaux, a pro-German
spy and a friend of the Duke. Martin Allen believes that Bedaux gave
Hitler vital information from the Duke which allowed the Germans to overrun the
French defences at their weakest point and occupy France in just six weeks. The
letter appears to suggest that the Duke would be willing to resume the British
throne once they had agreed a peace settlement with Hitler.Certainly
there were massive links between Hitler and the British royal family, much as
they have tried to keep this quiet. Some of Hitler's biggest supporters were the
German relatives of Prince Philip and the Queen (See The Biggest Secret). Indeed
the House of Windsor-Mountbatten is actually the German houses of
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and Battenberg. The royal family changed their name in 1917
during the first world war to make their German name sound "British". So
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha became Windsor and Battenberg became Mountbatten.The
question remains: is the Duke's letter genuine or fake? Philippa Lavell, a
handwriting analyst commissioned by Martin Allen, says it was definitely written
by the Duke. Two forensic document examiners says they doubt it is authentic.
Allen says the original source of the letter was Albert Speer, Hitler's
former munitions minister. Link URL for websites
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/dukewindsor.htmlFeel free to post this page URL anywhere!
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[CTRL] David Icke - Current Features





http://www.davidicke.com/icke/main.htmlThe 
most controversial authorand speaker in the worldCurrent 
Featureson www.DavidIcke.comTHE 
REPTILIAN CONNECTION:THE LATEST INFORMATIONThe Reptilian Brain ~ by 
David IckeClaims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes 
part in humansacrifice ritualsTHE BIGGEST CHILD ABUSE SCANDALIN 
UK HISTORY IS JUST ONE HORRENDOUS EXAMPLEOF A MASSIVE GLOBAL NETWORKTONY 
BLAIR -ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT POLITICAL LEADERS IN THE WORLD. SOME PEOPLE 
SPEAKWITH FORKED TONGUE, BUT BLAIR'S TONGUE LOOKS LIKE A MAJOR 
FREEWAYINTERCHANGETHIS WEBSITE CALLS FOR AN END TO ALL 
RACISM!YES, ALL RACISM, INCLUDING THIS!ILLUMINATI AND ROBOT 
RADICALSHOW YOU FINANCE THE NEW WORLD ORDER - OR HOW YOU BORROW MONEY 
THAT DOES NOTEXIST AND PAY INTEREST ON ITMinistry of "Prosperity"- 
The Federal Reserve BoardReal Money is Real TitleA STENCH TO 
MAKE YOUR NOSTRILS ACHE:LIFTING THE VEIL ON THE HOUSE OF 
WINDSORHOUSE OF WINDSORINTRODUCTION BY DAVID ICKETHE 
ROTHSCHILDS:THE STORY THAT JEWISH PEOPLEREALLYNEED TO KNOW THE 
KINDERCARE 'SATANIC ABUSE" CLAIMSPlease read this. Very 
important,headline NEWS storyEVIDENCE FROM AROUND THE WORLD 
SUPPORTS THE EXPOSE' OF SATANISM IN THEBIGGEST SECRETSee this Shocking 
Evidence in Global Reports HereTHE ILLUMINATIRAPEOF AFRICATHE 
"ANUNNAKI" CONTINENTWHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO PAN AM FLIGHT 103? IF TWO 
LIBYIANS DID NOT DO IT -WHICH THEY DIDN'T - THEN WHO DID?LES 
COLEMAN, A MAN BEING PERSECUTED FOR STANDING UP FOR TRUTH AND 
JUSTICEJOHN 
McCAIN:THE PEOPLES' FRIEND OR THE BUDWEISER "PRESIDENT"er- Vice 
President? THE FASCIST STATES OF AMERICA EXPOSED FOR ALL TO 
SEEU.S.A.THE BUSH GANG:WANTED FOR INTERNATIONAL 
MURDER,CHILD ABUSE, DRUG RUNNING, AND GENOCIDE.YOU KNOW THE 
FATHERNOW MEET THE 
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THE EVIDENCE AND THE SCAMSTHE "CHRISTIAN" CON MENPAT ROBERTSON:THE 
MORALE CRUSADER WHO IS FRIEND AND SUPPORTER OF THE PAEDOPHILE 
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[CTRL] FW: Vatican denies Holocaust

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Subject:Vatican denies Holocaust

The Vatican Bank has filed a challenge with the California Attorney
General claiming California's Holocaust claims law is unconstitutional.
Jewish organizations are silent.

http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com/vatchallenge.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Robert Lederman and David Icke


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Nessie, this Lederman dude is a crank. 

Thats a matter of opinion. Its also irrelevant. Like anyones report
of events, Lederman's should be judged on the basis of how well its
contents coincide with the empirical evidence and not on the relative
sanity (whatever that means) of the author.




Uses LaRoucheite book on Bush (Tarpley and Chaitkin) 

So what? Like anyones report of events, those of Tarpley, Chaitkin and
LaRouche should be judged by their contents, not the politics of the
authors. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and all three of
these guys have, on occasion, proven dead right about stuff that nobody
else was reporting at the time. This doesnt mean we should accept their
political analysis. We should not. But we should separate the empirical
data from political analysis and judge it on its own merit.  Should the
world have rejected Stalins contention that Hitler was a menace just
because Stalin was a mass murderer? Should the world dismiss Hitlers
contention that Churchill was an imperialist, just because Hitler is
known to have lied about the Jews? Of course not. Each claim needs be
evaluated on it's own merits. 

We must learn to distinguish between the message and the messenger.


and much worse has same booking agent as nutter David Icke 

I dont think Icke is a nut at all. I think he knows exactly what he is
doing. Hes a classic disinformationist using the classic
disinformationist technique of mixing some truth (the bait) with some
lies (the trap).  I would be genuinely surprised to find out he actually
believes the lies he tells. Its far more likely that hes in it for the
money.



and relies on his "research."

It is important to distinguish between Ickes research, which reeks of
flawed methodology, and his sources, some of which are valid and some of
which arent.

It is also important not to distinguish between rebuttal and ad hominim
attack.  My old debate coach, back in high school, taught us that when
the opponent resorts to an ad hominim attack, (s)he is either out of
ammo, out of brains, or (most likely) out of both.

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Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden

2001-01-12 Thread flw


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Here is the latest on Osama bin laden:

1. Osama bin laden was the secret guiding hand behind the massive
plot to deprive negroes and the elderly from casting ballots in Fla. His
agents cleverly used sandpaper to dull the tips of the punch card pens to
prevent the "chads" from falling out. Osama spread the dirty rumor
among Miami's elderly Jewish Leftists that Buchanan's real name was
"Bukanin."

2. Osama "set up" Linda Chaveshe was the one who sent Margaret
Mercado to live with Chaves. He secretly encouraged Mercado  to mop
floors and wash dishes without Chaves' knowledge while Chaves was
busy at the Mexican border helping the "undocumented" cross the
Rio Grande.

3. Osama's personally thwarted Al Gore's election by having his stooge
and agent, Justice Rhenquist manipulate the SCOTUS to defeat Gore.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has long suspected Rhenquist of being a
terroristnow it has been confirmed.

4. Osama's agents leaked GWB's DUI conviction to the media the weekend
before the election. Also it has now been revealed that Osama's agents
anonymously sent cases of Colt .45 to GWB on a daily basis for many years.

5. Monica Lewinsky was a long time "sleeper agent" in the service of
Osama. Clinton became suspicious when he heard Monica whispering
"Allah Akbar" while performing oral sex.

6. The most disgusting nefarious plot of all: Osama is responsible for
Hillary's election to the Senate. He personally arranged for that incompetent
Lazio to be Hillary's Republican opponent. With Hillary in the Senate Osama
knows that it is now only a matter of time before America is finally and
utterly destroyed.

THIS MAN MUST BE STOPPED!!!
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Total rubbish.

Maybe. Maybe not. Present a logical rebuttal, backed up by verifiable
citations (URLs, ISBNs, page numbers, etc.) and well consider them. In
the meantime, your personal opinions are not all that interesting. If
you want us to consider your opinions on their own merit, you first have
to prove to us that you are not a rude, immature, inarticulate jerk.
Youre off to a very bad start.

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DRIVEL

Shouting does not make something true. Not does it impress us. Nor do
you impress us, unless you can prove, with logic and empirical data,
that what you say is true. Then, and only then, will your personal
opinions be worthy of consideration. On the whole, though, it is facts
and not opinions which interest us. Opinions are like one of your other
defining attributes. Everybody has one.

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Blind, blind, blind. AALLL WWONNN

Shouting louder doesnt make it any truer either.  Neither will stamping
your feet, throwing your toys or holding your breath. Grow up, then
maybe people will take what you say seriously. Maybe.

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on the planet

Any one is free to move to ANY other country if things are SOOO
awful
here.

Love it or leave it, eh? Where have I heard that before? I have a
better suggestion.  But Im too polite to say it here.  

Ill say this instead. You could learn a thing or two about social
skills by hanging around here with your ears open. You could learn a
great deal from my behavior in particular. There are people here who
disagree strongly with my political analysis. There are even people here
who, for whatever misguided reasons,  dislike me as a person.  But they
at least listen to what I have to say  before they decide whether it is
true or not. 

Even if they think me usually wrong, they are generally willing to hear
me out because, right or wrong, at least I am not a rude, immature,
inarticulate jerk.  I have my faults, I am sure. We all do. But at least
Im smart enough to realize that rude, immature, inarticulate jerks are
not taken seriously, here or anywhere, except by other rude, immature,
inarticulate jerks. If that is the kind of people whose company you
seek, you are in the wrong place. Better you should find a Rush room and
hang out with ditto-heads. Theyll love you. 

Just a suggestion.

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[CTRL] Fwd: How Southern Violations of States Rights Caused the Civil War

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Subject: How Southern Violations of States Rights Caused the Civil War
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001

HOW SOUTHERN VIOLATIONS OF STATES RIGHTS CAUSED THE CIVIL WAR
 by Nathan Newman

The comments of Interior Secretary nominee Gale Norton talking about the
"loss" of states rights due to the Civil War just once more highlights the
lie that the Civil War was fought over states rights, rather than fought to
preserve slavery.

In fact, if anything, the Civil War was caused by Southern States using
their control of the Congress and the Supreme Court to use federal law
against Northern states which resisted slavery within their own territory.

The primary example of this was the Fugitive Slave Law used by the federal
government to force free states to return runaway slaves to their masters in
the South.

In fact, Southerners took this law and assumed the right not only to go to
court to force the return of slaves but would go into Northern states and
kidnap blacks, often not even slaves, while claiming that they had the right
of "self-help" in recovering their "property."

In 1842, the US Supreme Court in Prigg v. Pennsylvania, 41 U.S. 536, made
this right of southerners to defy Northern laws against self-help
kidnappings IN NORTHERN STATES a constitutional right. The decision
explicitly repudiated Northern states' rights to regulate their own affairs
in regard to kidnapping in their own borders. This repudiation of states
rights is clear, as Justice Story wrote: "It is scarely conceivable, that
the slave-holding states would have been satisfied with leaving to the
legislation of the non-slave holding states, a power of regulation, in the
abscense of that of Congress." Where Southern interests in slavery mattered,
they were all for extinguishing local state power in favor of that of the
federal government.

The next blow to Northern states rights was of course the much more famous
1857 Dred Scott decision which declared that Southerns were free to bring
slaves to free states, and yet keep those slaves as slaves in defiance of
Northern anti-slavery laws. The Court declared that no state had the right
to grant freedom and citizenship to such slaves or prevent them from being
brought in to their states. The case makes a big deal how such control is
vested solely in the federal government.

It was the South that declared war on states rights in the North, using the
Congress and the US Supreme Court to de facto extend slavery into Northern
states. It was the reaction in the North that three years after Dred Scott
elected Abraham Lincoln into office, not on a platform of abolishing slavery
in the South, but of refusing to allow the South to extend it anymore to the
North.

And the South reacted to this threat to slavery, NOT TO ANY THREAT TO STATES
RIGHTS, by seceding. It was the South that had abused states rights to
support slavery and when it looked like they could no longer do so, they
protected slavery by seceding.

It was all about slavery and racism. Nothing more, except possibly the North
being the ones asserting their states rights against the abusive power of
the federal government that had been controlled by the slave states.

In a similar manner, those who talk about "states rights" are the ones who
are the first to support a rightwing US Supreme court intervening in the
Florida election, the first to support federal government in interfering in
state tort claims, the first to support the federal government in
overturning laws like the Massachusetts Burma law to resist buying goods
from that country.

Conservatives talk about states rights, but when local governments do
anything they don't like, they are the first to invoke federal power to
overturn those state laws. This is usually done for the sake of property
rights, and that is the real tradition of the Confederacy - the supremacy of
property rights over human rights.

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[CTRL] Union of the vegetable: Sect leader sues U.S.

2001-01-12 Thread Kelly


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http://www.nationalpost.com/
January 12, 2001

Bronfman, the guru and their tea

Union of the vegetable: Sect leader sues U.S.
government after hallucinogenic seized

Isabel Vincent
National Post

A lawsuit between the U.S. government
and a member of the wealthy Bronfman
family hinges on an obscure Brazilian
religion that worships spirits in plants
and animals and encourages ritualistic
vomiting.

Jeffrey Bronfman, second cousin to
Edgar Bronfman Jr. and grandnephew to
dynasty founder Samuel Bronfman,
heads a chapter of the Union of the
Vegetable based in his home in Santa
Fe, N.M.

His group, with the unwieldy name of O
Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do
Vegetal (Portuguese for the United
Beneficent Spiritual Central of the
Vegetable), is suing the U.S. Drug
Enforcement Agency for the return of a
shipment of hallucinogenic tea that it
says is part of its religion.

Mr. Bronfman's group is an offshoot of
Santo Daime, a mix of Catholicism and
native spirituality, which was founded
by Raimundo Irineu Serra, an impoverished rubber tapper working
in an isolated part of the Amazon before the Second World War.

The Union of the Vegetable, one of the three branches of Santo
Daime, is mainly practised by foreign adherents who engage in
group meditation after ingesting a hallucinogenic tea. The other
branches of the Santo Daime religion -- Barquinha and CEFLURIS
-- are practised mainly in Brazil and all are associated with the
Amazon rain forest.

Adherents say Mr. Serra founded the religion after drinking a
strange brew made by the Indians in the Accre region.

The tea, which is commonly referred to as ayahuasca, is made by
boiling Amazon plants to produce a thick, brownish concoction
with the consistency of tomato juice, which can cause
hallucinations and vomiting.

When Mr. Serra drank it, he claimed to have had visions of a
woman dressed in white, which he referred to both as "Our Lady
of Conception" and the "Forest Queen."

His followers founded an ashram-like village in the Amazon known
as Ceu de Mapia, where 700 people still live without electricity,
running water or money.

"We praise the sun, the moon and the stars, calling for a life
closer to God's nature and tuned with the human virtues of
harmony, love, truth and justice," says the introduction to the
Santo Daime Internet site, which features a service that will
organize trips to the village, deep in the Amazon.

The chapter headed by Mr. Bronfman holds ceremonies in a tent,
or yurt, at his Santa Fe home. A woman who has participated said
the ceremonies begin with drinking the "horrible-tasting" tea.

On May 21, 1999, U.S. drug enforcement agents raided the sect's
office and seized its supply of the tea. No one was arrested, but
members say federal agents told them the tea could be
destroyed.

A complaint filed in U.S. District Court claims the tea should be
legal for members of the group, and that by confiscating it, the
Drug Enforcement Agency violated their rights.

Mr. Bronfman, who was born in 1955, is at best a fringe member of
the powerful family, which recently sold its giant Canadian distiller
Seagram as part of a US$30-billion merger that created the giant
communication group Vivendi Universal.

Michael Marrus, a professor at the University of Toronto who
wrote a book on the Bronfmans, said "it's stretching it" to include
Jeffrey Bronfman in the ranks of the powerful Montreal family. "I
don't really know anything about him."

Bronfman Dynasty, Peter C. Newman's 1978 book about the
family, mentions him only once in passing among the four children
of Gerald Bronfman, saying he was accepted by Yale University
"but chose instead to follow the Divine Light Mission of Guru
Maharaj Ji."

Santo Daime gained popularity in Brazil during the 1980s, when
television and film stars began to make the pilgrimage to Ceu de
Mapia to drink the ayahuasca tea and take part in the
ceremonies.

In response to reports of brainwashing and fraud among Santo
Daime followers, the Brazilian government commissioned a report
on the religion in 1987.

However, the country's federal drug council ended up giving its
approval to the religion and its hallucinogenic tea. In a report,
council officials noted: "The followers of the sects seem to be
happy and tranquil people. Many ascribe to the religion and to the
tea integration with their family, renewed interest in their work,
encounters with the self and with God."

There have been reports of people in Brazil and abroad overdosing
on the tea.

"Of course, a lot of people abuse the tea," says Marilia Bandeira
de Mello, a psychologist and head of the Barquinha sect of Santo
Daime in Rio de Janeiro.

"The tea puts you in touch with your subconscious and consumed
outside of the Santo Daime ritual can be very dangerous. You
need to be protected by a spiritual guide when you drink the tea."

According to Ms. Bandeira de Mello, those who want to join the
cult must be initiated at a ceremony in the Amazon. She

[CTRL] WP: Ginger: The Wheel Thing?

2001-01-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER


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Ginger: The Wheel Thing?
Gadget Is Rumored to Be A High-Tech Unicycle

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 12, 2001; Page C01


What could it be?

Respected inventor Dean Kamen of Manchester, N.H., we are told,
has come up with a world-moving invention that will be "an
alternative to products that are dirty, expensive, sometimes
dangerous, and often frustrating, especially for people in the
cities."

Has the man reinvented sex?

Harvard Business School Press is paying a quarter of a million
dollars for a book on the subject. According to the book
proposal, Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos says it's a "product so
revolutionary, you'll have no problem selling it." Apple Computer
CEO Steve Jobs says it will change the ways cities are designed.
Venture capitalist John Doerr has invested millions in it.

The code name for this product is "Ginger." What could it be?

If anybody actually knows, they're not talking.

But the digerati of Silicon Valley who know Kamen well were
convinced they had the answer yesterday.

Ginger, they claimed, is a wearable car.

Speculation and even drawings of a purported patent application
flew feverishly around the Web.

The drawing looks like a pogo stick with a single wheel under it
that you can't push over, no matter how hard you try. "Sort of
'B.C.' meets George Jetson in the form of a Razor on steroids,"
as Paul Saffo of the Institute for the Future put it yesterday.

If Ginger is indeed a kind of 60 mph wheeled witch's broom, there
would be a sort of outlandish logic to it, given the inventor's
background.

Kamen, who according to Wired magazine holds a Guinness record
for the longest interrupted span of time spent dressed in denim,
has a history of socially motivated invention. A physicist and
engineer, he holds more than 100 patents, several for
quality-of-life devices, including the portable dialysis machine.

His latest invention was the Independence 3000 IBot Transporter
-- a sort of intelligent wheelchair. It includes onboard sensors,
gyroscopes and computers that allow the device to place its
wheels almost like feet so as to climb stairs and travel over
curbs and rocks. He demonstrated it in July in the Senate and at
Vice President Gore's residence.

Those smart miniaturized gyroscopes would presumably be at the
heart of a Ginger machine that could whisk people magically
through cities at high speed while never being a parking problem.
(Maybe when you step off Ginger, it will fold itself up into
something the size of a briefcase? Maybe you can then instruct
the briefcase to follow you like a puppy?)

Sure, there will be bugs in the system. Literally. In your teeth
and in your hair, if you are scooting along at high speed. But
that could be solved by a sophisticated designer encasing you and
your Ginger in an Armani egglike shell.

And replacing the automobile will not be easy. Where would you
put your CD player on Ginger? Where would you put your beer? What
about the teenage market -- people who see transportation devices
as a means to make out? These are all difficulties that need to
be ironed out. (Two teenagers getting to know each other standing
up at high speed could actually be pretty awesome.)

But whatever the case, Dean Kamen comes out of a classic American
mold, Internet pioneer Stewart Brand observed yesterday.

"Dean is a genuine Gyro Gearloose -- one of the best we have in
this generation," he said. "He's in the tradition of Carl
Djerassi and the birth control pill, Thomas Edison and the light
bulb, Benjamin Franklin and the Franklin stove. And they really
did change everything."

Whatever Ginger turns out to be, Brand, like other members of the
Silicon Valley elite yesterday, was willing to believe that Kamen
was onto something. "I don't think it's cold fusion," he said.
"If Steve and Jeff were given access, their judgment is pretty
good about what's new, true and important."

"On the other hand," he said, laughing, "it might be early
investors' hype."

© 2001 The Washington Post Company

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[CTRL] FOX: Sources: Ray Convinced Evidence Strong Enough to Convict Clinton

2001-01-12 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER


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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/011101/ic_shuster.sml

Sources: Ray Convinced Evidence Strong Enough to Convict Clinton

Thursday, January 11, 2001
By David Shuster


WASHINGTON  If Independent Counsel Robert Ray indicts President
Clinton after he leaves office this month, the charge will be
obstruction of justice, sources tell Fox News.

The charge would stem from the president's January 1998
deposition in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit, in which
Clinton told attorneys that he "never had sexual relations with
Monica Lewinsky" and denied ever being alone with her in a
hallway off the Oval Office.

Those remarks could add up to obstruction of justice according to
U.S. law. The charge differs from perjury because prosecutors do
not have to prove Clinton's false statement was "material" to the
Jones case, a key line of defense for the president during his
impeachment.

With obstruction of justice, according to U.S. Code, materiality
is not an element. The only burden on the prosecutor is to prove
a defendant "corruptly influences, obstructs, or impedes, or
endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due
administration of justice."

According to sources, Ray believes obstruction best describes the
nature of the president's statements and testimony in the Paula
Jones suit.

"If a jury wants to acquit, they could do it in an obstruction
case as well as a perjury case. But materiality would give the
jury a hook that they won't have in an obstruction of justice,"
Solomon Wisenberg, a former deputy independent counsel, told Fox
News.

According to the investigation sources, Ray and his prosecutors
are convinced the evidence against Mr. Clinton is strong enough
to get both an indictment and a conviction in front of an
"unbiased jury".

Ray has called back key players Lewinsky and Linda Tripp, who
blew the whistle on the affair, an indication that he may pursue
the case.

"It's not the kind of thing you do unless you are contemplating,
at a minimum, presenting it to the grand jury," Wisenberg said.
"And so I think that's probably a fairly decent prediction that
we can expect at some point to at least present this to a grand
jury and let them make the decision."

Sources indicate that virtually all of the discussions at the
Office of the Independent Counsel are focused on "prosecutorial
discretion." The prosecutors are considering whether there are
"alternative remedies" to charging Clinton.

Some have argued that Clinton's impeachment by the House of
Representatives in December 1998 equals an "alternative remedy."
Other prosecutors are said to be weighing whether the contempt
ruling and fine by Judge Susan Weber Wright or the ongoing
disbarment case amount to such a remedy.

Ray must also consider whether to employ the resources that would
be required if the case ends up going to trial.

But the president's defiance and refusal to admit to any legal
wrongdoing, going so far as to say that he is proud that he was
impeached, increases the chance that he will be charged.

"It's almost as if he is following a script, the subtext of which
is: Mr. Ray, please indict me," Wisenberg said.

According to sources, some prosecutors fervently believe Clinton
should be indicted. A final decision by Ray is expected within
the next month.

According to law, the penalty for a court conviction would be not
more than a $5,000 fine or imprisonment for not more than five
years, or both.


 FOXNews.com's Sharon Kehnemui contributed to this report

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See also today's South China Morning Post (Technology Suppl) for furhter
gen and interested investors:

http://technology.scmp.com/enterprise/Daily/20010112094548529.asp?Section=Main

TD



 Respected inventor Dean Kamen of Manchester, N.H., we are told,
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[CTRL] red blood cells in fossil bones from a Tyrannosaurus rex?

2001-01-12 Thread Carl Amedio


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ACTUAL red blood cells in fossil bones from a Tyrannosaurus rex? With traces
of the blood protein hemoglobin (which makes blood red and carries oxygen)?
It sounds preposterous to those who believe that these dinosaur remains are
at least 65 million years old.

It is of course much less of a surprise to those who believe Genesis, in
which case dinosaur remains are at most only a few thousand years old.

In a recent article,1 scientists from Montana State University, seemingly
struggling to allow professional caution to restrain their obvious excitement
at the findings, report on the evidence which seems to strongly suggest that
traces of real blood from a T. rex have actually been found.

The story starts with a beautifully preserved T. rex skeleton unearthed in
the United States in 1990. When the bones were brought to the Montana State
Universityâs lab, it was noticed that âsome parts deep inside the long bone
of the leg had not completely fossilized.â To find unfossilized dinosaur bone
is already an indication more consistent with a young age for the fossils
(see box).



BUY!

Other Resources:
Great Alaskan Dinosaur Adventure
3-D Dinosaur Cards
After the Flood
Dinosaurs and the Bible booklet
Dinosaurs by Design
Dinosaurs: Missionary Lizards (video)
Footsteps of Leviathan (video)
Great Dinosaur Mystery
Those Mysterious Dinosaurs
What Really Happened to the Dinosaurs

Let Mary Schweitzer, the scientist most involved with this find, take up the
story of when her co-workers took turns looking through a microscope at a
thin section of this T rex bone, complete with blood vessel channels.

âThe lab filled with murmurs of amazement, for I had focused on something
inside the vessels that none of us had ever noticed before: tiny round
objects, translucent red with a dark center. Then a colleague took one look
at them and shouted, âYouâve got red blood cells. Youâve got red blood
cells!ââ2 Schweitzer confronted her boss, famous paleontologist âDinosaurâ
Jack Horner, with her doubts about how these could really be blood cells.
Horner suggested she try to prove they were not red blood cells, and she
says, âSo far, we havenât been able to.â

Looking for dinosaur DNA in such a specimen was obviously tempting. However,
fragments of DNA can be found almost everywhere from fungi, bacteria, human
fingerprints and so it is hard to be sure that one has DNA from the specimen.
The Montana team did find, along with DNA from fungi, insects and bacteria,
unidentifiable DNA sequences, but could not say that these could not have
been jumbled sequences from present-day organisms. However, the same problem
would not be there for hemoglobin, the protein which makes blood red and
carries oxygen, so they looked for this substance in the fossil bone.

The evidence that hemoglobin has indeed survived in this dinosaur bone (which
casts immense doubt upon the âmillions of yearsâ idea) is, to date, as
follows:

The tissue was coloured reddish brown, the colour of hemoglobin, as was
liquid extracted from the dinosaur tissue.

Hemoglobin contains heme units. Chemical signatures unique to heme were found
in the specimens when certain wavelengths of laser light were applied.

Because it contains iron, heme reacts to magnetic fields differently from
other proteins extracts from this specimen reacted in the same way as modem
heme compounds.

To ensure that the samples had not been contaminated with certain bacteria
which have heme (but never the protein hemoglobin), extracts of the dinosaur
fossil were injected over several weeks into rats. If there was even a minute
amount of hemoglobin present in the T. Rex sample, the ratsâ immune system
should build up detectable antibodies against this compound. This is exactly
what happened in carefully controlled experiments.

Evidence of hemoglobin, and the still-recognizable shapes of red blood cells,
in unfossilized dinosaur bone is powerful testimony against the whole idea of
dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bibleâs
account of a recent creation.

MORE ON FRESH DINO BONE â¦


To claim that bone could remain intact for millions of years without being
fossilized (mineralized) stretches credibility. The report here of red blood
cells in an unfossilized section of dinosaur bone is not the first time such
bone has been found.

Biologist Dr Margaret Helder alerted readers of Creation magazine to
documented finds of âfreshâ, unfossilized dinosaur bone as far back as 1992.3

More recently, based on these reports, a team associated with Buddy Davis, a
staff member at Answers in Genesis, in Northern Kentucky, has retrieved
similarly unfossilized dinosaur bone from Alaska.4

Return to text.


REFERENCES AND NOTES
M. Schweitzer and I. Staedter, âThe Real Jurassic Parkâ, Earth, June 1997
pp. 55â57. Return to text.

The T. Rex blood cells were actually first noticed by a professional
pathologist casually interested in

[CTRL] Protests Target Neoliberal Agenda of Both Parties


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Inaugural Day Protests Target Neoliberal Agenda of Both Parties

By Frances M. Beal

  From the moment of Gore's concession speech when he implored his
followers to accept the election outcome in the name of respect for
America's legal institutions and the good of the commonwealth, there has
been a growing chasm among America's political leaders. One one side
stand Republicans and Democrats alike who want to get on with business
as usual. On the other side stand those who are outraged that massive
voter fraud and the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of African
Americans will result in anointing a rightwing president bent on the
destruction of democracy as we know it.

  This chasm was highlighted when the Congressional Black Caucus
raised a ruckus and walked out of the congressional session called to rubber
stamp the vote of the Electoral College on January 6th. The courageous
action once again underscores the pivotal role that Black politics plays
in advancing and protecting U.S. democracy for the entire nation. It is
a lesson that was thrust before the American people and witnessed by
millions in living color. And the fact that not a single senator had the
courage to join the CBC to challenge the electoral votes from Florida
due to massive irregularities and voter disenfranchisement similarly
exposed the impotence of the Democratic Party as an instrument for
safeguarding the interests of its traditional constituency.

  That abyss was further widened by dissimilar reactions to Bush's
string of ultra-right appointments for his cabinet. The first words out of Sen.
Biden's mouth, for example, on John Ashcroft's nomination as attorney
general, were a blase comment that he would probably be confirmed
because the Senate "traditionally" did not oppose its colleagues.  On
the other hand, the CBC and the entire civil rights community is
outraged and determined to derail this choice that would give the
extreme right its most cherished prize--the power to undermine decades
of progress in civil rights, free speech and abortion rights.

  More ominous for the Democrats is Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s
recent attack on the Democratic Leadership Council and bipartisanship based
on "building bridges to essentially conservative southern Blue Dog, Yellow
Dog, New Dog or DLC Democrats."  This is the most overt and most
profound critique of the DLC's move to the right and its neoliberal
agenda that has yet come from within party ranks. It is a signal that
some sections of the African American community are taking off their
gloves in the fight against the reactionary politics that hold sway
among Democratic leaders and the fight to take on the racist anti people
policies of the GOP administration.

  The next battles in this war are scheduled for Inauguration
week. Jesse Jackson and other liberal Black leaders have called for a rally
in Tallahassee, Florida on Inauguration Day to protest the voter fraud and
disenfranchisement of African Americans in that state.  While all
protests are to be encouraged, one cannot help but speculate about this
inauspicious site. The entire nation and the international community
will have their eyes focused on the nation's capital.  No protest at all
would further erode Jackson's standing in the Black community, but any
mass demonstration away from the seat of power is strategically
indefensible.  This concession strongly suggests that Jackson and the
Black liberal leaders are more beholden to the Democratic Party than to
African American interests, and do not want to engage in any activity
that will alienate them from the DLC leadership or their do-nothing,
business as usual line.

  There are other African American forces, however, that have
seized the time and are joining hands with other progressive forces to
descend on Washington, D.C in record numbers. The Independent Political Action
Network has called for a Pro-Democracy Week starting on Martin Luther
King, Jr's birthday, January 15, and culminating in massive protests and
rallies on January 20th to protest the illegal coronation of Bush as
president, to demand fundamental reforms in our electoral system and to
provide a show of force against the reactionary policies of the incoming
administration.  The Rev. Al Sharpton and others are planning a march
and rally to the U.S. Supreme Court and others will raise their banners
at the Capitol and along the inaugural parade route.

  Pro-Democracy Week activities have also been planned for
Northern California.  The traditional MLK day observance has been turned
into a protest over the elections and the anti-people policies promised by the
incoming administration.  The evening of Jan. 15, the Black Radical
Congress is sponsoring a forum on Electoral Racism in Oakland.  On Sat.
Jan. 20th, the International Action Center with hundreds of endorsing
organizations will gather at the Civic Center in San Francisco for a

[CTRL] Mary Frances Berry (US Civil Rights Commission)


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radman says:
Two tidbits below re: Mary Frances Berry (US Civil Rights Commission chair).

Folks would do well to examine her actions as head of Pacifica and then
apply any insights gleaned to her other (current) endeavors.

1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary Frances Berry) wrote:
  how ridiculous. i'm not even a democrat and am a clinton critic which
  tells me how reliable the rest of what you say is. i said on national tv
  that he "lacks character."
  mfb

You are a Clinton appointee
to one of the most important
propaganda positions in the
US government.

You, my "sister", "lack character."
Almost 2 million people are in your
government's prisons - almost 1 million
of them are Black. One third of all young
Black men are in jail, or on probation
or parole. There are 7 million homeless.
Police murder is epidemic. Whole groups
of people are deemed "illegal" - and a whole
generation is being criminalized.

These are
systematic crimes against the common people
of this country, not aberrations. Your job
nothing more or less than to cover up the
systematic nature of oppression, even while you
expose certain "excesses."

It is in this context that you are systematically
trying to gut Pacifica of its radical programmers,
content and mission.

The people on the bottom are voiceless and
your aim is to silence one of the few avenues
left to them.

In a context of a massive effort
on the part of the govt in which you play a key role
to scapegoat those on the bottom for all of this
system's evils, at a time when the same forces are trying
to drive deep wedges between the middle class and the poor,
you are trying to mainstream Pacifica- to drive
a wedge between a new, upper middle class listenership
and any possibility that programming that truly
speaks to and for the oppressed remains "unmarketable."

It is not an accident that at the last Board meeting
you had security that claimed to be from the Secret
Service.

You are a coward -
a traitor to honest principles
and a traitor to the oppressed,
to Black people and to Pacifica.

It is clear enough who and what you serve.

We will never rest until your rule
at Pacifica is overthrown and until
Pacifica is back in the hands of the people.

Answer THAT.

Rafael Renteria
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2)
From: Rafael Renteria [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are different analyses of what's behind
these changes. There's certainly personal
ambition and careerism within the National Board
at work. But more important is the behind the scenes
maneuvering by forces tied to the highest levels
of government. Mary Francis Berry is the chairperson
of both Pacifica's Executive Board and Clinton's
Civil Rights Commission. The National Board has
growing ties to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
Its President, Robert Coonrod, was previously the
deputy director of the Voice of America (VOA), an
arm of U.S. imperialist foreign policy.

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[CTRL] Another Mary Frances Berry tidbit


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radman pull quote:
"I have witnessed the head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission impose
censorship and deny citizens their Constitutional rights to free speech and
peaceful assembly."

Ya wanna talk conspiracy, huh?
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Dr, Judith Rodin
President, University of Pennsylvania
Fax 215/898-9659

July 15, 1999

Dear Dr. Rodin:

After months of ignoring pleas to mediate the crisis which she had provoked
here at KPFA, Dr. Mary Francis Berry arrived in the Bay Area this week for
a secretive, invitation-only news conference. You deserve to know about
that and subsequent events in which Dr. Berry played a starring, though
remote-control, role, since they present problems for the academic
profession, your university, and above all, the U.S. Constitution.

Dr. Berry lied to the media on several issues. She did not misstate; she
outright lied, and this can be documented. The following day, the watchdog
group Media Alliance intercepted a misdirected internal memo revealing that
the Pacifica board has been discussing the sale of Pacifica "assets" the
day after Dr. Berry denied such rumors. She continued to do so, while
sternly reiterating that staff would be fired for discussing internal
matters on air. Apparently on Berry's instructions, a newscaster was
dragged from his microphone for reporting the memo as her newly imported
manager took the station off the air.  The scuffle between Dennis Bernstein
and armed guards was heard throughout Northern California, and when
hundreds of people gathered at the station (I was one), the Berkeley Police
were ordered by Dr. Berry's minions to evict and arrest those within the
building, including its staff. These events have been covered by all news
outlets, including yesterday's rally of 2000 people at the station.

This, apparently, was the ultimate reason for the five armed guards which
Dr. Berry had stationed within KPFA several weeks ago. Five seemed a bit
like overkill, but these men work for a company that specializes in hostile
takeovers and internal investigations. On Tuesday, KPFA was forcibly seized
and the staff arrested and/or locked out of a building constructed by
community donations. What was this if not a hostile takeover conducted with
all the finesse of Charles Hurwitz?

Yesterday, Pacifica's nationally broadcast show "Democracy Now" carried a
report on the events at Berkeley. The program was suppressed at all
Pacifica stations.  It was taken off the air in Washington in
mid-broadcast.

I have witnessed the head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission impose
censorship and deny citizens their Constitutional rights to free speech and
peaceful assembly. I have heard a member of the academic community lie to
the press; as both a former journalist and a present academic, I am doubly
incensed by such behavior. I have watched Dr. Berry cynically play the race
card despite the objections of many people of color to whom she has never
bothered to speak. These include people of the stature of Alice Walker and
June Jordan, as well as the young people at KPFA whose interests she claims
to support yet whom she has stonewalled.

I am writing to you as an individual, but I am also signatory to a letter
protesting Dr. Berry's actions which has been endorsed by numerous
academics throughout the Bay Area. That letter was released before
Tuesday's extraordinary events. By now, I believe that it will not be
difficult to enlist academics internationally, since Dr. Berry's attempt to
muzzle free expression affects us all and demeans our profession.

You have a problem. If the University of Pennsylvania Academic Senate has
an ethics committee, I strongly urge it to investigate the conflicts of
interest and buccaneering actions of Dr. Mary Francis Berry at Pacifica.
Those of us who built and suport KPFA and its affiliates intend to do so
through every legal means available.

Sincerely,
Gray Brechin
(Author of 2 new U.C.Press books - "Farewell, Promised Land" and "Imperial
San Francisco"

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[CTRL] Fwd: Poor management at the Civil Rights Commission by Berry


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 The Civil Rights Commission [chaired by Mary
 Francis Berry] appears in "disarray," congressional auditors say in a report
 accusing the 40-year-old agency of lacking fiscal accountability, misplacing
 records and taking years longer than planned to finish projects  In a
 review of the agency covering fiscal years 1993 through 1996, the General
 Accounting Office, Congress' investigative and auditing arm, found
 "management controls over its operations are weak and do not ensure that the
 commission is able  to meet its statutory responsibility or its program
 objectives."

from [DOCID: f:hr439.105]
 From the House Reports Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]

105th Congress   Report
  2nd SessionHOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
105-439

EXCERPT OF VERY LONG REPORT

  Like GAO, OPM identified problems with the Commission's
performance management system. OPM stated that ``[t]he results
of the OPM questionnaire and interviews reveal a highly
negative perception on the part of managers and employees
regarding the organizational climate of the agency. Morale is
low, and effective communication is practically non-existent.
The degree of unfavorable responses far exceeds that of any
agency in the OPM questionnaire data base.'' (OPM Report at 2
(emphasis added).) H.R. 3117 is designed to help correct this
problem by requiring the Commission to implement GAO's
recommendations with regard to its management information
system.

Commission General Counsel's Teaching Arrangement

On July 17, 1997, the Constitution Subcommittee held an oversight
hearing on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. The
Subcommittee discovered that Stephanie Moore, General Counsel
of the Commission, taught two undergraduate courses at the
University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia during both the Spring
Semester of 1997 and the Fall Semester of 1996. According to the
University, these courses, ``History of American Law since 1877''
and ``History of Law and Social Policy,'' took place on Tuesday and
Thursday during normal business hours. Mary Frances Berry,
Chairperson of the Commission and a member of the faculty at the
University of Pennsylvania, is the regular instructor of these
courses. Ms. Moore was substituting for Ms. Berry while she was
on leave from the University faculty. Questions arose as to the
propriety of this arrangement, and whether the Commission in fact
needs a full time General Counsel. Moreover, some of the
management deficiencies pointed out in the GAO report are related
to the responsibilities of the General Counsel. In internal
memoranda to Ms. Moore from both the Staff Director and the
Designated Agency Ethics Official, Miquel Sapp, they both approve
Ms. Moore's arrangement, stating that this teaching position ``is
not in conflict with [her] official duties.'' Yet the classes took place
in Philadelphia during regular business hours every Tuesday and
Thursday. Section 2636.307(d)(1) of the regulations define the
standard for authorization, and state that the ``teaching may be
approved by the designated agency ethics official only when [] the
teaching will not interfere with the performance of the employee's
official duties.'' The Chairperson has stated that the General
Counsel's absence from work two days a week does not interfere
with the performance of official duties. Ms. Moore's employee time
sheets indicate that during 1996, Ms. Moore billed 213 hours--
10.5% of Ms. Moore's time--to a category called ``other leave.'' This
is a category distinct from ``annual leave'' or ``sick leave.'' The
Commission has proffered no explanation for why Ms. Moore's time
was billed to the ``other leave'' category. In the interests of allowing
a full and fair exploration of the issues at the oversight hearing, the
subcommittee asked Chairwoman Berry to be prepared to answer
questions from the subcommittee regarding the General Counsel's
arrangement. The subcommittee further requested that the
Commission provide the subcommittee with certain background
information prior to the hearing, including copies of Ms. Berry's and
Ms. Moore's employment contracts with the University. The
subcommittee was told the contracts did not exist. Chairwoman
Berry's oral testimony at the hearing regarding this arrangement
raised even more questions. Under questioning from Subcommittee
Member Asa Hutchinson, Ms. Berry denied that she had
recommended Ms. Moore for the teaching position, and denied that
she had control over the situation:

   Rep. Hutchinson: ``It is my understanding from your
 testimony thus far that you were aware from the very
 beginning--in fact, you recommended Stephanie Moore for
 this teaching position.''
   Berry: ``No. I said she had indicated that she would
 like to do it, and I suggested she talk to the Staff
 Director about whether it could be done without
 conflicting

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory


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I am clearly (to you at least) ignorant on these subjects because I
haven't read the 2 books you have pointed out. 


You havent read much of anything, at least not in this field. You
havent even read what I say very closely. I recommended those two books
as a good place for the beginner to start. They certainly arent the
whole story. But theyre a good place to start.


You have neatly  tried to discredit all my questions by simply accusing
me of being ignorant. 

I didnt have to accuse you. You have demonstrated quite on your own
that youre ignorant, at least about this field. Thats nothing to be
ashamed of. Everyones ignorant of something. But to willfully stay
ignorant is shameful. To pretend you are not ignorant is more shameful,
still. 



You fail to answer my questions however, such as:

If modern Wicca is the direct incarnation of an old or ancient religion
(as it's adherent's claim), where is the evidence for this?

Like I said, you apparently dont read what I say very closely. I told
you where to start looking it up.  Go look it it up.

Personally, Im not convinced one way or the other. A solid case can be
made either way.  Some Wiccan traditions are quite obviously attempts at
reconstruction. Other traditions, especially hereditary traditions, we
cant be so sure about. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,
ever. This is particularly true  when we are investigating a crime,
particularly a capital crime. Witchcraft was a capital crime for
centuries. We can hardly expect its practitioners not to have hidden the
evidence.  Written documents by primary sources about organized crime
are hard to come by, too. Does that mean there is no Mob?


Are there any primary written sources to prove this? Your answer is no.


There are, as I have said repeatedly, some. However, they are not, in
and of themselves, sufficient to be conclusive. But I said that already.
You must have skimmed that page.



Are there any historical artifacts which prove this?

Not beyond a shadow of a doubt, no. But we dont have Jimmy Hoffas
body, either. Does that mean he didnt die, or that he never lived?
Historical documents by primary sources that prove that the Norse
reached North America are sorely lacking, too. Nonetheless, artifacts at
lAnse-aux-Meadows present conclusive evidence that they did.


Is there any evidence of the existence of items so beloved of modern
Witches such as the Book of Shadows or  the Athame knife,  (snip) being
around before the 1950s? The answer is no.

That depends on who you believe. Some say yes. Some say no.

which all witches are supposed to possess,

If you believe that all witches possess, or believe, the same thing(s),
you are sadly mistaken. These people are at least as varied in their
beliefs and practices as are Christians, Buddhists or Muslims.  Some
witches never write anything down about witchcraft because, so they
claim, thats how they were taught to survive. For the same reason, many
witches even today, intentionally use household utensils as Tools. Its
easier to deny you are a witch if nothing in your house looks like
evidence.



 Previous religions are irrelevant if they do not provide a clear link
to the current Wiccan religion. You may have forgotten but  the original
contention was that Wiccans are trying to pass off their modern religion
as an ancient religion with a long tradition.

The evidence is overwhelming: Wicca is contains elements of  ancient
religion with a very, very long tradition. This is not in contention.
What is in contention is whether or not that tradition is unbroken.
Well probably never know. But then, were not entirely sure who shot
JFK, and that is within the living memory of nearly half of us.
History, especially the history of crime, is sketchy at best.



These claims are bunk. 


Perhaps they are. Perhaps they are not. I dont know and neither do you.
The data so far are insufficient to reach a valid conclusion one way or
the other. 

A solid case can be made that Christianity, as practiced today, has
little if anything in common with Christianity as practiced two thousand
years ago. An absolute case can be made that a considerable portion of
Christian dogma is based on hearsay, and a priori assumptions. Does that
make the rest of it bunk?



The 'golden age' when women ruled the Earth and matriachy was
predominant is also, by the way, bunk.

Youre setting up a straw man here. You must be getting desperate. I
never once said there was a  'golden age' when women ruled the Earth
and matriachy was predominant. Why? Because there was no such thing.
There certainly were, and still are, matriarchal societies, but thats a
separate issue.

What there was, was not a matriarchal golden age, but an age when
partnership and not domination was the dominant social paradigm. The
ubiquity of egalitarian grave goods and the complete lack of weapons and
fortifications, combined with the numerous remarkable advances in

Re: [CTRL] Oldest Crystal Found

2001-01-12 Thread Steve Wingate

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Well, there is more.
A betterr article just came from space.com
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/early_earth_010110.html
"Earth may have been cool enough to retain oceans and  develop continents 4.4 billion 
years ago, according to a new study, possibly pushing back by several million years 
the time when our planet could have supported life.
The finding could also challenge the common view of when and how our Moon formed."

(Not that it could not have happened, but I always had a problem with that moon 
forming theory)

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Thanks Rene. It wasnt me who came up with 
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[robots-rebellion] Jesus the Morning Star = LuciferMike; i think you are 
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the Royalbloodlines and therefore the Reptilians. Eating thesymbol of 
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Killer Virus Created By Accident

http://www.healthmall.com/newsletter.cfm?type=articleid=1326a=

A new virus that destroys the immune system has been accidentally created
by Australian scientists and kept secret for more than two years. The
discovery was made public yesterday amid fears that biological weapons
could be developed from the work on the genetically modified virus, which
in experiments has killed animals vaccinated against it. The scientists'
decision to publish the results of their groundbreaking research came after
they raised their concerns with colleagues and officials at the departments
of Defense and Foreign Affairs.
The mousepox is harmless to humans, but scientists say the technology that
created it could be used to develop a GM-strain of smallpox which would
render the smallpox vaccine much less effective.
Ian Ramshaw, an immunologist who worked on the project, said: "The virus
itself is not dangerous, the ideas and the technology behind it are dangerous."
Scientists yesterday urged that the Global Biological Weapons convention be
strengthened in the wake of the discovery, made by Canberra scientists
working on a combined project at the Pest Animal Control Co-operative
Research Centre.
The research is the first time a virus has been genetically engineered to
make it more harmful, said Professor Ramshaw.
The mousepox "modified to contain a gene which produces the substance
interleukin-4" destroys the immune systems of mice, meaning those normally
resistant to the virus die.
"It is a warning that we must ensure humanity has mechanisms and rules in
place to prevent the abuse of science for evil purposes," said Annabelle
Duncan, a former deputy head of a United Nations team that inspected Iraqi
biological weapon production sites in the early 1990s after the Gulf War.
"In this case, we need urgently to strengthen the global Biological Weapons
Convention to take account of this latest discovery, as the Australian
Government has been urging in broader terms for some years," said Dr
Duncan, chief of CSIRO molecular science.
Australia has been active in efforts to win support for a new protocol to
the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention, to introduce mechanisms verifying
that countries are sticking to their commitments not to build or stockpile
biological weapons.
Talks on the new protocol are scheduled to conclude in November.
The creation of the virus was announced online at the Journal of Virology,
published by the American Society for Microbiology.
The creation was a complete accident, as the scientists were altering the
virus trying to develop a mouse contraceptive.
The new virus killed all the mice which were genetically resistant to the
mousepox and killed 50 per cent of the mice which had been vaccinated
against it.
"What we didn't anticipate was turning a virus that the animals tolerated
quite well to one that killed them," said Pest Control Centre director Bob
Seamark.
The research was conducted by Professor Ramshaw, from the division of
immunology and cell division at the John Curtin School of Medical Research
at the Australian National University, Ron Jackson, a virologist at the
CSIRO's wildlife division, and Alistair Ramsay, now at the University of
Newcastle.
Professor Ramshaw has been using a similar technique in the developed of
"double whammy" AIDS vaccine, which is expected to go to human trials shortly.
ANU deputy vice-chancellor John Richards, who only learned of the research
yesterday, said the experiments had been approved by the ANU animal ethics
committee and the ANU recombinant DNA committee.

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[CTRL] Riady Admits Illegally Funding Clinton


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  Riady Admits Illegally Funding Clinton

  NewsMax.com
  Friday, Jan. 12, 2001

  Indonesian billionaire James Riady has agreed to pay a record
  $8.6 million criminal fine for illegally funding Bill Clinton's 1992
  presidential campaign, the Justice Department said Thursday
  night.

  According to the Associated Press and other wire services:

  In a plea bargain filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles,
  Riady agreed to plead guilty to one felony count of conspiracy
  for concealing foreign contributions, which are illegal in the U.S.
  He will not face jail time.

  The government's court filing said the goal of the contributions
  was to buy influence for Lippo Group and LippoBank.

  Riady is to surrender and come to the U.S. at an unspecified
  future date â even though there is no extradition treaty between
  Indonesia and the United States. Fox News reported he was
  expected to fly from Indonesia to Los Angeles for a court
  appearance Tuesday.

  An FBI summary released last year said Democrat fund-raiser
  John Huang, a Riady employee, reported that in 1992 Riady told
  Clinton during a limousine ride that he wanted to raise $1 million
  for his campaign. Huang pleaded guilty to a campaign financing
  felony and has been cooperating with the government since
  August 1999.

  Last April, Clinton told federal investigators he did not have "a
  specific recollection of what the conversation was, or this fact of
  the car ride.'' He said all he could remember was seeing Riady
  "sometime in '92 after I became the nominee,'' and that Riady
  promised to help his campaign.

  LippoBank California, a bank affiliated with Riady's Lippo
  Group, agreed to plead guilty to 86 misdemeanor accounts
  charging that its agents, Riady and Huang, made illegal foreign
  campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994. Riady also
  agreed to assist with the government's inquiry.

  Riady is one of 26 people and two corporations so far charged
  by Justice's campaign finance task force, established four years
  ago.

  The Ray Connection

  A Justice Department official said that independent counsel
  Robert Ray, who is investigating Clinton on other matters, was
  consulted and indicated that the plea bargain was consistent
  with the interests of his investigation, which does not include
  campaign financing.

  Ray's office has prosecuted former Justice official and Clinton
  friend Webster Hubbell, and has looked into whether payments
  to him, including $100,000 from Lippo Group after he resigned,
  were designed to keep him from testifying against Clinton or his
  wife, Hillary.

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[CTRL] AF News 12 Jan 01


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0036.  Reserve component commanders visit Turkey

by Staff Sgt. Jim Verchio
Operation Northern Watch Public Affairs

INCIRLIK AIR BASE, Turkey (AFPN) -- Recently, two of the most influential
people of the Air Force air reserve components visited Incirlik to meet with
the men and women of the Guard and Reserve here serving in support of
Operation Northern Watch.

Maj. Gen. James Sherrard III, Air Force Reserve Command commander, and Maj.
Gen. Paul Weaver, Air National Guard director, came to emphasize that even
though still in its infant stages, the expeditionary air force concept is a
huge success.

"The (aerospace expeditionary force) and what we've done is an absolute
success story which will be, I believe, one of (Air Force Chief of Staff
Gen. Michael E. Ryan's and Secretary of the Air Force F. Whitten Peters')
greatest legacies," Weaver said.

Although reserve-component units have been flying in the aviation arena and
various aviation packages for 10 years since Operations Desert Shield and
Desert Storm, Weaver acknowledged the reserve component was not
participating in the area of expeditionary combat support.

"We just wanted to be invited to the party," Weaver said. "During this last
year, we sent thousands of people through the eye of the needle.
Historically, we have never done that before."

Sherrard agrees the EAF concept has proven to be more successful than anyone
imagined.

"The decision and direction to go the way of the EAF has been the right
thing for our Air Force," he said.  "It's the right thing for our nation in
terms of what our Air Force is being asked to go do and how we can best
execute our missions -- EAF is the way to do business."

With the EAF concept comes predictability and stability. Not only for the
active force, but also for the air reserve components as well. With the
Guard and Reserve playing more of a role in what the Air Force is doing
today, that means for every guardsman or reservist deployed, an active-duty
person is at home with his or her family.

The air reserve components work from a 15-day construct -- a system which is
the basic building block that determines the tour length of guardsmen and
reservists.

Weaver said the construct makes managing the force more challenging.
However, for him there is no alternative.

"If one of our guardsmen or reservists weren't here under the 15-day
construct, there would be an active-duty person here away from his or her
family. The (personnel tempo) would be even greater," he said.

"When you look at our perstempo today, we're 500,000 workdays above the peak
of Desert Shield and Desert Storm," Weaver said. "We've never been busier,
and the reserve component's retention rates have never been higher. We love
to be busy, and we love doing what we're trained to do."

With this basic system in place, units are able to plan out taskings 15 or
even 30 months in advance. It also provides a chance for the active-force to
get more familiar with the guard and reserve and vice versa.

Senior leaders are looking at new and innovative ways to work with people
wanting to stay in theater longer, Weaver said. He also said by extending
the time in theater there is a better chance for unit cohesion, continuity
and the chance for guardsmen and reservists to take command.

There is no difference between the active air force and the air reserve
components, according to both leaders. Both point out the Air Force has been
doing it smart right from the beginning by training its reserve components
to the same standard as the active force and verifying this standard through
inspections conducted by the active force.

"We no longer need a 'gen-up' time:  a time where we need to practice
getting our bombs on target, or a time to learn our trade better," Weaver
said. "We train hard at home so when we walk into the theater we are ready
to go."

There was a time when there was a 90 to 10 percent split in mission
responsibility between the active forces and the air reserve components.

Weaver said, those numbers are now 60 to 40 percent.  He believes that now
more than ever the air reserve components are totally involved with the
active force.



0040.  Commission stresses beefing up intel, changing focus

by Army Sgt. 1st Class Kathleen T. Rhem
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- The Defense Department must view terrorists as a
"relentless enemy" and confront them "with the same intensity and discipline
that we have used in the past to defeat conventional antagonists," Defense
Secretary William Cohen said Jan. 9.

Cohen was quoting the unclassified USS Cole Commission Report, which was
released that day. The report was co-authored by retired Army Gen. William
W. Crouch and retired Navy Adm. Harold W. Gehman. Cohen requested the report
following the Oct. 12 bombing of the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen, that killed 17
sailors and injured 39.

The

[CTRL] Emperor Commodus President W


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January 12,  2001
Emperor Commodus  President W

http://www.consortiumnews.com/011201a.html

By Robert Parry

The national pundits are acting as if Jan. 20 will be just another
Inauguration of a new president, a celebration of that miracle of American
democracy when power is passed peacefully from one leader to another based
on the will of the electorate.
As the date approaches, Washington pundits are growing more and more
irritated over any discordant comment suggesting that something else is afoot.
On Wednesday, nearly the entire cast of TV pundits  the likes of Chris
Matthews and Sally Quinn  derided President Clinton for his strange notion,
expressed during a speech in Chicago, that Vice President Al Gore got more
votes nationally than George W. Bush and that "the only way they [the
Republicans] could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida."
This comment was beyond the pale for pundit after pundit who heaped
ridicule on Clinton for his bad taste and his bad manners.
In the month since Bush claimed victory, it's apparently become impolite to
note the facts: that the incoming president did lose the popular vote and
seized power via an unprecedented act of judicial fiat by five conservative
partisans on the U.S. Supreme Court. [For more on the self-interest behind
that decision, see Supreme Ambitions.]
Yet, even as the national media elite shoves these unpleasant facts into a
memory hole, some Americans might still recall that Clinton has a point.
Gore did get more votes nationally  indeed, more than a half million more
votes than Bush  and on Dec. 9, the five conservative Supreme Court
justices did grant Bush's urgent request to stop the counting of votes in
Florida, a count that the same five justices made sure, three days later,
was never resumed.
The stated reason for the halt in the vote count on Dec. 9 was to protect
Bush from the "irreparable harm" to his legitimacy that would result if the
vote count continued and demonstrated what was growing increasingly obvious
for all the world to see: that Bush had actually lost Florida and thus the
presidency.
But this post-election chronology has quickly disappeared from America's
pundit shows. Like many of their colleagues, Matthews and Quinn just
couldn't get over Clinton's bad form in bringing all this old news back up
again. [For a story on Quinn's longstanding animosity toward Clinton, see
Clinton vs. the Establishment.]
  Bush's Non-Denial
The predicament got worse a day later when Bush was asked about Clinton's
comments. In effect, the soon-to-be-president was being challenged to
justify the undemocratic circumstances that surrounded his peculiar
election victory.
Faced with that question at a news conference on Thursday, Bush did not
even try to defend his own legitimacy. Instead, he became what might be
called snippy.
Bush declared simply that Clinton "can say what he wants to say, but
January the 20th, I'll be honored to be sworn in as president."
Bush's failure to defend the tactics behind his election underscored
another open secret that has been making the rounds of official Washington
over the past several weeks.
At holiday parties, Republican political operatives boasted freely about
their success in snaring the White House. A common refrain, told in a
joking style, was: "We stole the election fair and square."
This high-level Republican bragging is, of course, in marked contrast to
what the Republican rank-and-file are expected to believe. For the
followers of Rush Limbaugh and the conservative media, the message is still
that Al Gore and Joe Lieberman were the ones trying to steal the election
by "inventing" votes.
In the weeks after the Nov. 7, this propaganda theme whipped the GOP foot
soldiers into a near frenzy, helping to create a climate of crisis that
added to the rationale behind the five conservative justices settling the
election in Bush's favor.
But high-ranking Republicans now acknowledge, at least privately, that many
legitimate votes favoring Gore were tossed aside in Florida to preserve
Bush's tiny victory margin.
  Emperor Commodus
So, the theme of Gore as "Sore Loserman" has been replaced by a new theme:
that the country must rally behind the new president and that the Democrats
must gracefully accept their defeat.
But Bush's unresponsive response to Clinton's jibe should make clear that
even the beneficiary of this stolen election knows that he will be taking
the powers of the presidency legitimately won by another man.
The stubborn memories of this bitter election also will leave many
Americans with a sick feeling that this U.S. Presidential Inauguration will
not be like the others.
For some Americans, this cherished moment of popular self-government might
become more reminiscent now of the triumphal welcoming parade in Rome that
greeted the young emperor Commodus in the movie, "Gladiator."
Surrounded by pomp and circumstance and hailed by the high and mighty,
George W. Bush

[CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy

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To: [redacted]
Subject: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001

[The movement to restore the Confederacy is really picking up steam.
John Ashcroft's alliance with a wide range of far-right groups is but
the tip of the iceberg.  I was particularly struck by Gale Norton's
comments lamenting the defeat of the Confederacy.  Is she advocating
the restoration of slavery?  Probably not.  But she is certainly part
of the movement to undo the legal reforms that overthrew Jim Crow.
The pattern is clear.  You will recall that the conservative wing of
the Supreme Court, in its breathtaking concurrence with the decision
that ended the vote-counting in Florida, twisted the Court decisions
that overturned States' Rights defiance in the South into an instrument
for deciding the election.  And that was just the culmination of a
long-term trend.

Until now, the States' Rights party has been sufficiently marginal
that we haven't had to look hard at their arguments.  But now they
control the country, so we have to start looking more closely.  And
when you look closely at the arguments of States' Rights and Property
Rights proponents, you generally find something surprising: despite
what they say in their headlines, they are not actually claiming a
right to be left alone.  Quite the contrary, they are arguing for a
right to inflict harm on others.  Gale Norton worked for an industry-
backed legal foundation that supported so-called property rights in
environmental cases.  She also strongly supported similar positions
as attorney general of Colorado.  But in most cases those "rights"
consist of activities that cause pollution to enter other people's
air and water, or that cause erosion of neighboring land or beaches,
or that harm migratory animals that had provided benefits to others
long before such a thing as property existed.  And as Nathan Newman
points out below, the controversies over slavery that led to the Civil
War were not just a matter of permitting southern whites to buy and
sell human beings without interference from the north; in fact they
were attempts by the southern states to compel northerners to abet
these evil practices.

Of course states have rights, and so do property owners.  Nobody
is contesting that.  The real controversies begin when the exercise
of putative "rights" spills over the borders and property lines and
affect others.  That is why we have a federal government, and it is
why we have laws, and democracy, and a judicial system.  The "leave
me alone" party is, in fact, the "do unto others" party.  Their modus
operandi is to go around hitting people while yelling "stop hitting
me".  This was entirely clear during the election, and it is becoming
plain as day right now.

Here are a few more related items:

   Southern Partisan: "Setting the Record Straight"
   http://www.fair.org/press-releases/southern-partisan.html

   Ashcroft Appearance on Schlafly's 1997 Conspiracist Video
   http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/Global_Governance/Ashcroft.htm

   1998 article on Ashcroft
   http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/ashcroft_repost.html

   The President Elect Sails into the Storm
   http://christianity.about.com/library/weekly/aa011001.htm

   Considering a Convention to Propose Constitutional Amendments
   http://i2i.org/SuptDocs/OpEdArcv/op080896.htm

Thanks to everyone who contributed.]

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:30:39 -0500
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HOW SOUTHERN VIOLATIONS OF STATES RIGHTS CAUSED THE CIVIL WAR
 by Nathan Newman

The comments of Interior Secretary nominee Gale Norton talking about
the "loss" of states rights due to the Civil War just once more
highlights the lie that the Civil War was fought over states rights,
rather than fought to preserve slavery.

In fact, if anything, the Civil War was caused by Southern States
using their control of the Congress and the Supreme Court to use
federal law against Northern states which resisted slavery within
their own territory.

The primary example of this was the Fugitive Slave Law used by the
federal government to force free states to return runaway slaves to
their masters in the South.

In fact, Southerners took this law and assumed the right not only to
go to court to force the return of slaves but would go into Northern
states and kidnap blacks, often not even slaves, while claiming that
they had the right of "self-help" in recovering their "property".

In 1842, the US Supreme Court in Prigg v. Pennsylvania, 41 U.S. 536,

Re: [CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy


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On 12 Jan 2001, at 15:16, Nessie wrote:


 Of course states have rights, and so do property owners.  Nobody
 is contesting that.  The real controversies begin when the exercise of
 putative "rights" spills over the borders and property lines and
 affect others.  That is why we have a federal government, and it is
 why we have laws, and democracy, and a judicial system.

You statement is unquestionably true - however I fail miserably
when I try to understand how a self-professed anarchist ends up
supporting a government, laws, a judicial system.

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PARIS, Jan 10 (AFP) -
Australian gene engineers accidentally created a mouse virus that
kills every one of its victims by wrecking their immune system, a
discovery with the potential for making the ultimate terrorist
weapon, New Scientist reports.

The killer bug was invented quite inadvertently, while the
researchers were trying to create a contraceptive vaccine for mice as
a pest control, the British weekly reports in next Saturday's issue.

They inserted into a mousepox virus a gene that creates large amounts
of interleukin 4 (IL-4), a naturally-occurring molecule that produces
antibodies in the immune system.

The idea was to stimulate antibodies to destroy eggs in female mice,
thus making the rodents infertile.

Mousepox, a close relation to smallpox, normally only causes mild
symptoms among the type of mice being used in the study, and was only
being used as a vehicle to deliver the IL-4.

But when the IL-4 gene was inserted, the engineered virus ran amok,
attacking the "cell-mediated response" -- the part of the immune
system that fights viral infection. All the animals in the study were
wiped out in just nine days.

Worse, the engineered virus was astonishingly resistant to vaccines.
A vaccine that would normally protect these mice from mousepox only
worked in half of the mice exposed to the killer version.

Co-researcher Ron Jackson, of the Canberra-based institute CSIRO,
said the discovery was a frightening indicator of what could happen
if the human smallpox virus was similarly modified.

"It would be safe to assume that if some idiot did put human IL-4
into human smallpox, they'd increase the lethality quite
dramatically," he told New Scientist.

"Seeing the consequences of what happened in the mice, I wouldn't
want to be the one to do the experiment."

"It's surprising how very, very bad the virus is," said Anne Hill, a
vaccine experts from Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland,
Oregon.

Smallpox has been eradicated as a disease thanks to a global
vaccination campaign, although two laboratories -- one in the United
States, the other in Russia -- still have ampoules containing the
virus, under an arrangement with the World Health Organisation (WHO).

The incident highlights how easy it could be for some with bio-
engineering knowledge to create a murderous virus for which there
would be no cure or effective vaccine, New Scientist said.

"Vast amounts of time and effort have gone into policing the
military's use of biotechnology. But the activities of civilian
biologists have been ignored," it said.

"Yet genetic engineering techniques are now so widespread that
potentially dangerous results are bound to emerge accidentally."

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to train students in biological subjects about potential dangers
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 You statement is unquestionably true - however I fail miserably
 when I try to understand how a self-professed anarchist ends up
 supporting a government, laws, a judicial system.
  
I will just speak for myself. Rational Anarchism acknowledges that all
government is inherently corrupt.  It also understands stands that humanity
by its very nature, needs social organization/government. hence it is
concomitant upon the rational anarchist to seek that social
organization/government which isleastcorrupt/offensive/restrictive.

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It's not my statement. I don't support it. I passed it on. That's what
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[CTRL] NATO Used FRY As Nuclear Dumping Ground: Russian General

2001-01-12 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic














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  http://www.russiatoday.com/news.php3?id=252490"Cheap" 
  NATO Must Fund Uranium Cleanup, Russia SaysMOSCOW, Jan 12, 2001 -- 
  (Reuters) Russian defenseofficials accused NATO on Thursday of using 
  Serbia asa dumping ground for depleted uranium ammunition itneeded to 
  get rid of and called on the alliance to payfor any 
  cleanup.Russia's air force chief General Anatoly Kornukovdenounced 
  the Western military alliance forpenny-pinching, saying NATO had used its 
  1999 airraids to dispose of depleted uranium munitions ratherthan 
  dispose of them properly."It is clear to me they dropped the 
  (munitions) theyneeded to destroy, as purely destroying them wouldhave 
  been several times more expensive than droppingthem during bombing", he 
  said in televised remarks."Of course there is an (environmental) 
  effect, there'sno question about that. But at least we do not 
  havethese (munitions). We got out of this a long time agoand this is a 
  totally incorrect approach," he said."All statements made on this 
  matter by the officialrepresentatives of the U.S. administration, 
  including(Secretary of State) Madeleine Albright, are aimed 
  atamateurs," RIA Novosti quoted Kornukov as saying.Colonel-General 
  Leonid Ivashov, the Defense Ministry'sinternational relations chief and 
  leading hawk, toldInterfax news agency that NATO had a duty to check 
  thehealth of all Yugoslavs, not just troops in Kosovo,and to foot the 
  bill for any cleanup operation in theregion."It is extremely 
  important that NATO countries payattention not only to damage which may 
  have beencaused to the health of servicemen in the...Kosovooperation, 
  but to all damage caused in Yugoslavia, toits people and ecology," he 
  said."All actions in assessing this damage and in dealingwith the 
  consequences must be conducted by countriesof the North Atlantic alliance 
  at their expense."Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev will raise 
  theuse of depleted uranium munitions in Yugoslavia andBosnia during a 
  scheduled February 6-8 visit to theBalkans, domestic news agencies 
  reported, citing"informed sources."Moscow has already called for a 
  thorough probe byrespected international organizations of the 
  possiblehealth risks associated with the ammunition.On Wednesday, 
  NATO ambassadors promised to investigatethe effects of depleted uranium 
  but said it posed aminimal health risk. It pledged to do all it could 
  toreassure troops and civilians worried by cancerscares.Russia 
  fiercely opposed NATO's 11-week 1999 aircampaign on Yugoslav targets, 
  launched in response toBelgrade's crackdown on the ethnic Albanian 
  majorityin Kosovo province. Moscow later contributedpeacekeepers to a 
  U.N.-backed force.Russia says it wants to test as many as possible 
  ofits 10,000 Balkan veterans and the roughly 3,000peacekeepers it has 
  in Kosovo and 1,000 men stationedin Bosnia. So far, it has found no one 
  suffering fromleukemia.Mrs Jela 
  Jovanovic, art historian 
  
  Secretary 
General

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SFTT Question - How To Deal With Our Southern Front
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Ed.: Thank you for all the comprehensive responses to my question if we
should use Federal or preferably National Guard troops, to control our
Southern Border. Based on your input, 60% favor increased involvement while
40% say that more troops or Border patrol will not make a difference. While
we're already involved in limited military (TF 6) and paramilitary activities
(Border Patrol) with questionable success, several responses clearly point to
more comprehensive solutions. They include: Allowing workers to stay for
seasons and return with their earnings to their homeland and an overhaul of
the welfare system that induces illegals to stay without repercussions. We'll
expand on the discussion in the near future.

PRO Military Action:
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A). A Real Problem - Time For Action
~~

We have been and are being invaded from Mexico. Our Border Patrol has been
engaged in shooting incidents, allegedly with Mexican Troops. Every year more
illegal aliens permanently enter the USA from Mexico than Citizens that
reside in the State of Montana!

These illegals are periodically granted amnesty by our National Government as
a reward for their illegal acts. That diminishes all of our Rights as
Americans, reduces the value of the labor of the working man, increases costs
of Welfare, Criminal Justice and Education and changes our voting
demographics forever! As Ronald Reagan said: "A Nation that fails to protect
and control it's Borders is not really a Country anymore." If we are to
remain a country we must stop the invasion and repatriate those illegals that
are here. We must do so by whatever means necessary.

RJ B. - Montana
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B). It's An Invasion!!!
~

As 'prime' among the very few responsibilities the Constitution gave to the
Federal Government was "Repelling Invasions" of our territories (Article I
section 8). Since 1933, hundreds of new responsibilities have been 'assumed'
by that Government, however, it has done a totally inadequate job of
performing its primary responsibility of repelling the invasion from south of
the border. Anyone who thinks the situation on our spread in Arizona - 5
miles from the Mexican border - is anything other than an "INVASION" has a
lot to learn.

The Census says they counted about 21,000,000 foreign-born residents in the
U.S. The best guess is that's only a small fraction of the number are
actually here, since illegal aliens are pretty adept at disappearing whenever
anyone who looks 'official' shows up.

Even those who were actually documented represent almost 10% of all U.S.
residents. That's a higher percentage of aliens than we've had for over 150
years. If one chooses to believe the expert estimates instead, we're
perilously close to the 1/3 of the population dissatisfied with the present
social system that are usually found when a Revolution occurs.

Unfortunately, the vast bulk of the foreign-born residents know 'HOW', or
more importantly "WHY" to be an American. We are making no significant effort
to identify and systematically Americanize these people. Without being taught
to be Americans, it's only a matter of time until this group will decide they
would rather be a part of Mexico, or establish a Banana Republic type of
Government instead of the form we have had in this nation.

The question is NOT should the National Guard or Regulars 'assist' in
controlling immigration, but "When is the Federal Government going to start
repelling this invasion - as the Constitution says it must." Why shouldn't
the existing Military be used for this purpose instead of trying to turn the
Border Patrol into another Army?

J.C.B., Arizona

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C). Keystone Kops Worse Than Illegals
~~

I'd like to tell you that the current law enforcement activities here on the
Border are a Keystone Kops exercise in futility, not to mention being
contributory to the erosion of fundamental Constitutional rights for U.S.
citizens.

The Border Patrol has to be one of the most ignorant, careless, heavy-handed
organizations that I've ever seen; their "occupation" down here (I live
twenty miles off of the Border in S.E. AZ) is resulting in increasing
tensions with the local population, while doing precious little to stem the
tide of illegal immigration and cross-border commerce.

The agents that they are putting into this sector are largely ill-trained,
ill-prepared recruits from God-knows-where; most of them have never been in
this part of the country before,

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10 January 2001 - "Common Sense and Readiness"

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"Through Zman's Gun Sight"
Military Uniforms Show Lack Of Practical Sense

HACK's Target for the Week:
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The Big Picture:
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Article 2 -- General Dynamics Offers Russia Arms Contract
Article 3 -- U.S., S. Korea OK Troops Rules

Voice of the Grunt:
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Article 5 -- Army: The Interim Brigade Combat Team
Article 6 -- We CAN Do It!
Article 7 -- The Sergeant's Corner - "Ruck Up And Move Out!"
Article 8 -- Navy: No Basic Training For Naval Reservists?
Article 9 -- Army: About The Chief's Baby - The LAV
Article 10 -- Self-inflicted Welfare
Article 11 -- Navy: Russian Fighters Buzz The Tower
Article 12 - Troop Health/Useful Programs: Spain Soldiers Checked for
Radiation

G.I Humor:
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Medal of Honor:
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Military Uniforms Show Lack Of Practical Sense


By R.W. (Zimm) Zimmermann
President Soldiers For The Truth
01/09/01

It's amazing how General Shinseki's decision, to put a black wool patch on
every soldier's head, has gotten more attention than weapons, reorganization,
spare parts or training.

It all shows how superficial we are. We worry more about looks than substance
or practicality. The superficiality about appearance reminds me of a butt
chewing I received from a battalion commander during a move-out alert in
Germany. One of my mortar grunts hadn't yet shaved at 5 AM, his fatigues were
rumpled and he had oil stains on his shoulders and in the face. The irate
commander never bothered to find out that the grunt had been first in his
arms room and that he carried the bulk of the

[CTRL] Wiccan Pseudohistory final word


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I can tell by the way that you alternate ranting and raving with sophistry that you 
clearly have no arguments and, more importantly, no evidence that Wicca predates the 
mid 20th century.

You can rant and accuse me of being ignorant, unschooled, foolish etc. but you 
continue to dodge around the FACT that there is no evidence for the existence of a 
continous witchcraft tradition. Reasons this evidence may not exist as offered by you 
simply show that you do not dispute that there is no such evidence. That there is no 
such evidence means that it is an invention, a creation of modern authors and 
get-rich-off-the-stupid/ignorant crowd who dominate all religions.

If you are going to continue this thread by continuing to accuse me of being ignorant 
and nothing else, then don't bother. Most of the subscribers to this list can spot 
someone trying to use hyperbole rather than fact, although they are usually nowhere as 
persistent as you are.

Regards,


Joe

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Whatever happened to Paula and Gennifer and Monica and Connie and
Sally and Dolly and Susan and...
By Matt Labash

As the sun sets on Bill Clinton's presidency, it is easy to give in
to sentimentalizing, to legacy-assessing, to speculating about his
future: Will he run for Senate or host his own talk show? Will he
putter around his rutabaga garden in fuzzy house slippers? Where will
he take his first date?

As journalists plumb for answers to these important questions, the
most distinctive contingent of the Clinton era has been grossly
neglected. They come in all shapes and hair colors, some of them
without benefit of bleach or surgical enhancement. They've started
websites and written tell-all books. They do nude spreads and
penance, and one of them even did time. They've been hookers and
housewives and ladies all. They are the Women Of the Clinton Scandals
(WOCS).

In the interest of catching up and making sense of the last eight
years, we called some WOCS to take one last lap around infamy's
track. Space considerations necessitate limiting ourselves to a
representative sample. Besides, as of late, no one's seen much of
Sally Perdue (the former Miss Arkansas who was threatened after
disclosing the ugly particulars of her affair with Clintonâsuch as
his "wearing my black nightgown, playing the sax badly"). And neither
were we able to contact Gennifer Flowers, currently traveling with
her husband, the unfortunately named Finis Shelnutt. Since Flowers
has abandoned her Gennifer's Girls interactive cybersex service,
she's stayed busy on her website selling "Presidente" cigars, her
tell-too-much book ("Willard" and "Precious" were their pet names for
each other's privates), and pictures of herself. When not engaging in
presidential commerce, the cabaret veteran has brought the gift of
song to an international audience and lectured on "Surviving Sex,
Power and Propaganda" at the Oxford Union.

There are also WOCS who are attempting to rise above the past. These
days, Monica Lewinsky will only talk about the Big Creep to a federal
grand jury. While Lewinsky used to be all-embarrassing-disclosures,
all-the-time (her book informed us that she went to "fat camp," threw
a hissy fit when daddy wouldn't buy her a Snoopy telephone, and told
a gut-conscious Clinton, "I like your tummy"), she is all business
these days, especially since her tax and legal expenses have eaten
through her Jenny Craig profits. Fortunately, she has found a way
to "reawaken my creative senses" by selling purses online (our
favorite: the Moroccan Mermaid Button Purse). As she told the Pure
Oxygen website, "Bags are my life."

Still, there are other WOCS with stories to tell (and with listed
phone numbers). In the beginning, there was Connie Hamzy, the
infamous rock'n'roll groupie (who claims a rÃ©sumÃ© stretching from
Vanilla Ice to Richard Carpenter) and the first of candidate
Clinton's extramarital headaches. In the January 1992 Penthouse,
Hamzy detailed her 1984 encounter with Governor Clinton, when he
tried to pick her up in her skimpy purple bikini at a Little Rock
hotel pool. After stealing a quick grope, they were unable to find an
available room, and their session went unconsummated. As Newsweek
reported, Hillary Clinton wanted to destroy Hamzy's credibility, such
as it was (Hamzy boasted of taking on 24 guys during a single Allman
Brothers concert). But Hamzy, who passed a polygraph test
administered by the American Spectator, persuasively declared, "I may
be a slut, but I'm no liar."

Since her disclosure, it's been tough going for the woman Grand Funk
Railroad immortalized in song as "Sweet Sweet Connie." In 1995, she
was cited by police in a Little Rock park after her thong bikini
failed to conceal her sufficiently. In 1998, her campaign for mayor
of Little Rock self-destructed when she was arrested for public
intoxication. To support her groupie habit, she's worked a string of
dead-end jobs from part-time retail clerk to breeder of Persian cats.
So it's understandable she grows agitated when I ask her for a
Clinton assessment. "What's in it for me?" she asks. "Free
publicity," I offer. "I can't eat publicity," she snarls. "I'm not
talking unless you're talking money. Call me again, and I'll call
Bruce Lindsey at the White House." I try to explain that Lindsey only
intimidates people who've had sexual contact with Clinton, which, as
of this writing, excludes me. But she abruptly hangs up.



Celebrating the miracle of airbrushing, Paula Jones has, in its
latest issue, joined Sweet Connie in the Penthouse pantheon with a
multi-page layout and an accompanying interview in which she
denounces conservatives who used her harassment charge for political
ends. While Jones did not respond to interview requests, her
estranged husband Steve did. A failed actor and airline ticketing
agent, Steve had the first

[CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...






FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 12, 2001

Americans United for Separation of Church and State
Contact: Joseph Conn or Rob Boston
202-466-3234
202-466-2587 fax
www.au.org

ASHCROFT SPEECH AT BOB JONES UNIVERSITY DEMONSTRATES CONTEMPT FOR
CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES

CHRISTIAN NATION SPEECH SHOULD DISQUALIFY NOMINEE, SAYS AMERICANS UNITED FOR
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Transcripts made available today of attorney general-nominee John Ashcroft's
speech at Bob Jones University in 1999 demonstrates the former Senator's
contempt for the nation's religious liberties, according to Americans United
for Separation of Church and State.

In the speech, Ashcroft said that America has "no king but Jesus."

"Clearly, John Ashcroft's speech shows that he has little or no appreciation
for the constitutional separation of church and state," said the Rev. Barry
W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. "For a nominee for U.S.
attorney general to state that we have 'no king but Jesus,' is completely
unacceptable. In the United States, it is the Constitution that serves as the
basis for laws and national life, not one faith tradition.

"This speech demonstrates the John Ashcroft is completely unqualified to
serve as attorney general," Lynn added. "The Senate must reject his
nomination.

"Ashcroft obviously believes the United States is a Christian nation,"
continued Lynn. "He is woefully misinformed. Our Constitution guarantees
unqualified religious liberties for each of us, regardless of our beliefs.
The fact that Ashcroft rejects this basic principle should be startling to
all Americans of good conscience.

"His comments serve as a grievous insult to religious minorities," Lynn
added. "It shows he does not have the temperament to serve as the chief law
enforcement officer of the United States."

Also troubling were Ashcroft's remarks praising Bob Jones University, a
school with a history of religious and racial bigotry. During his recent
campaign, Ashcroft suggested that he was unfamiliar with the institution that
awarded him an honorary degree. However, during his 1999 visit, he praises
the university, thanking God for its very existence, and then lauding the
school's commitment to the principles they share.

"This is rank dishonesty," Lynn concluded. "Senators looking for evidence
that undermines Ashcroft's claims of honesty and integrity need look no
further than this smoking gun."

Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington,
D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization represents 60,000 members and allied
houses of worship in all 50 states.

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[CTRL] Being 'Borked' - Democrats Champions of the People - Not!


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Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!

Being 'Borked'

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 2001 WorldNetDaily.com


By Linda Chavez
Copyright 2001, Creators Syndicate

My relationship with a battered Guatemalan woman -- who was also an illegal
alien -- ended my chance to become secretary of labor.

I don't remember precisely when Marta Mercado moved into my home or how long
she lived there a decade ago. She is one of dozens of people in need who I
have helped over the years -- just as I was helped by family and friends
during times of crisis in my childhood. Some of those I've aided stood with
me on Tuesday when I asked that my nomination be withdrawn.

I don't recall how much money I gave Marta during the time she lived with me,
though I do remember giving her money in several hundred-dollar increments to
spend or send home to her daughters in Guatemala.

I also remember her being helpful around the house, picking up after my
teen-age sons with whom she shared the lower level of my home. I remember
making telephone calls to find English classes for her, driving her to the
local mall where she tried to find work, teaching her how to use the bus,
encouraging her to return to Guatemala and giving her money for her ticket. I
remember once Marta got lost returning from English classes and called from a
phone booth for help, but she couldn't explain where she was. The entire
family scoured the community until we found her, scared and cold.

The most vivid recollection I have of Marta, however, involves an incident in
which she returned home bruised and beaten after several days away. Marta had
a key to the house and came and went as she pleased -- although I was usually
there when she left or returned, since I worked from home at the time. We
would often exchange pleasantries or talk for a few minutes about her
daughters in Guatemala or her own schoolwork. But on this particular day, she
tried to conceal her face as she brushed past me. Nonetheless, I noticed that
her eyes were blackened, and her lips swollen and cut.

I asked what had happened and whether she needed to go to the hospital.
Tearfully, she told me in faltering English that she had been assaulted. I
persuaded her that we had to call the police and that she should report the
incident. I placed the call and sat with her in the living room while the
officer interviewed her. I also spoke with a battered-women's counselor on
her behalf.

I regret many things about the way in which I handled the events of the last
few weeks. I should have disclosed my relationship with Marta to the Bush
transition officials before I was nominated. When I did talk to them about
Marta for the first time on Jan. 6, however, I told them I knew she was in
the country illegally while she was living with me.

In mid-December, to refresh my memory, I spoke to a neighbor who employed
Marta when she lived in my home -- an act that has now been portrayed in the
most sinister light, even used to accuse me of a possible felony. I should
have told the Bush staff earlier about my conversation with my neighbor -- a
phone call that lasted only a few minutes and took place when I was one of
several candidates being discussed for the job. My neighbor did most of the
talking during our brief exchange, in which she discussed several
foreign-born domestics who worked for her, their legal status and whether she
paid taxes on their wages.

I stressed that she should truthfully answer questions from the FBI during
the course of any background checks if I were to be nominated -- something
about which she needed little instruction, since she is a prominent
Washington attorney. But one thing I do not regret is taking Marta into my
home at the request of one of my friends who knew of her plight. I would do
it again today. And if there is any consolation in having lost out on the
chance to become secretary of labor, it is knowing how well Marta is now
doing.

The battered woman who came to live with me a decade ago -- an illegal alien,
separated from her children, penniless and speaking little English -- is now
a confident, middle-class, suburban housewife married to an American citizen.

I have not led a perfect life -- a standard that increasingly seems expected
of candidates for high-level government appointment. No aspect of a nominee's
personal life, no matter how intimate and irrelevant to the job in question,
goes unexamined. No incident in one's life, regardless of how long ago, goes
unexplored. And if a Cabinet nominee fails to disclose -- or recall -- a
matter as trivial as a traffic fine or a visit to a marriage counselor
decades earlier, the failure will be interpreted in the worst possible light.

The greatest danger, of course, is to those whose political views make them
the special targets of powerful interest groups. In my case, the AFL-CIO
decided to oppose my nomination as

Re: [CTRL] Being 'Borked' - Democrats Champions of the People - Not!

In a message dated 1/12/01 7:10:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


Being 'Borked'


Bork you!
Bork OFF!!
You BORKIN' SHILL!!!

;-)

Bill BORKIN' Shannon.

Re: [CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy

2001-01-12 Thread Jayson R. Jones


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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:33:50 EST Carl Amedio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 1/12/01 5:27:27 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 You statement is unquestionably true - however I fail miserably
 when I try to understand how a self-professed anarchist ends up
 supporting a government, laws, a judicial system.

Carl Replies:
I will just speak for myself. Rational Anarchism acknowledges that all
government is inherently corrupt.  It also understands stands that
humanity by its very nature, needs social organization/government. hence
it is
concomitant upon the rational anarchist to seek that social
organization/government which isleastcorrupt/offensive/restrictive.

Jayson writes:
"The theory that regards the absence of all direct or coersive government
as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary
association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of civilized
society."  That is my ideal.  However, Libertarianism is a viable and
acceptable step in that direction.  It does us all good when the
Republicrats fight among themselves.  It shows them for what they are.
If we can use their own words, actions and even institutions against
them, so much the better.  Tea Party anyone?
Jayson
(Gotta lay off the exprsso late at night)

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I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake etc. makes you 
feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only a mental illusion and 
you don't get much real exercise from it at all. Playing on a computer for 6 hours may 
give you a headache and feel exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn 
less calories than a 15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while 
playing with computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat.

TV doesn't help either.

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[CTRL] Israeli right wing DEMANDS no compromise with the Palestinians!!!!!!

Israeli right wing demands no compromise with the Palestinians

By Chris Marsden 
12 January 2001
http://www.wsws.org/


US-led negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians have all but 
collapsed. Ehud Barak's One Nation coalition and the Palestinian Authority 
under Yasser Arafat have made clear they expect nothing of substance to 
materialise before Clinton leaves office and George W. Bush assumes the 
presidency. With Prime Minister Barak facing his own election challenge from 
Likud's Ariel Sharon on February 6, and presently 20 points behind in opinion 
polls, Israeli rightists have gone into overdrive in their efforts to end any 
possibility of a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians. In some 
quarters, the talk now is of the need for greater repression and even the 
possibility of war in the Middle East.
It has proved impossible for Arafat to foist the proposals offered by Clinton 
on the Palestinian people, in face of the failure to accept full Palestinian 
sovereignty over East Jerusalem and particularly the denial of the right of 
return for the millions of refugees dispossessed from their homeland since 
1948.
The popular uprising known as the Intifada continues to rage, despite the 
repressive actions of the Israeli Defence Forces and fascist settlers that 
have claimed upwards of 350 lives. Marches have taken place in recent days 
throughout the Palestinian territories in support of the right of return to 
Israel, as well as demonstrations by some of the 360,000 refugees living in 
the Lebanon.
In the January 8 edition of Dawn, leading Palestinian academic and political 
commentator Edward Said ridiculed the Clinton plan for rewarding Israel “with 
such things as the annexation of the best West Bank land, a long (and 
doubtless inexpensive) lease of the Jordan valley, and a terminal annexation 
of most of East Jerusalem, plus early warning stations on Palestinian 
territories, plus control of all Palestinian borders (which are all to be 
with Israel, not with any other state), plus all the roads and water supply, 
plus the cancellation of all refugee rights of return and compensation except 
as Israel sees fit.”
In return, the Palestinians were offered only a “land swap by which Israel 
magnanimously gives up a little bit of the Negev desert for the choice bits 
of the West Bank.” Said points out that “Clinton overlooks the fact that 
that particular Negev area earmarked by Israel just happens also to have been 
used by it as a toxic waste dump!"
But even the historic injustice proposed by Clinton, which tramples on the 
right of return that has been endorsed by repeated United Nations 
resolutions, is too much to stomach for the right wing of the Zionist 
establishment.
Palestinian insistence that Israel accept the right of return for an 
estimated 3.5 million refugees has been flatly denounced as a threat to the 
very survival of Israel, despite Arafat's assurances that the number of 
returns would be strictly controlled. Since Barak himself has made clear that 
he has no intention of ceding ground on this issue, however, the right wing 
has focused its campaign on the question of his acceptance of Clinton's 
proposal for shared sovereignty over Jerusalem's Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa 
mosque—a holy-place for both Jews and Muslims.
Opponents of a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians argue that even 
Clinton's minimal concession to the national rights of the Palestinians 
throws in to question the legitimacy of the Zionist state of Israel, founded 
as it was in 1948 through the removal of around a million Palestinians in a 
terror campaign that today would be deemed “ethnic cleansing”. For this 
reason, the fate of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount has become the centrepiece 
of an aggressive reassertion of Jewish nationalism.
On January 8 around a quarter of a million people—-the largest contingent 
being right-wing settlers—attended a rally to protest the possible transfer 
of Temple Mount to the Palestinian Authority. A picture of the capture of the 
Temple Mount during the Six-Day War in 1967 was projected onto the walls of 
the Old City.
Writing in the Los Angeles Times January 10, for example, Rabbi Marvin Hier, 
Dean and Founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, argues, “the cornerstone of 
our return to Zion was always based on the fact that it was a return to our 
historic biblical roots. The place where Abraham first encountered his God, 
where Moses promised to lead his people, where the prophets first introduced 
their concepts of social justice and freedom, and the hilltop where Solomon 
built his majestic temple... By giving up the Temple Mount, we are 
diminishing our right to any other part of the state of Israel. If the Temple 
Mount, with which we've had a continuous history for 3,500 years, is not 
ours, how legitimate is our claim to Jaffa, Tel Aviv or Haifa?”
Many on the right argue that the efforts undertaken to achieve a negotiated 
settlement since the Oslo

[CTRL] The KING Revealed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stern Lecture 


 have a PhD from Yale University. I am a college professor. I am a feminist
and a social activist. And yet, most mornings, from the hours of 7:30 to 10
o'clock, I listen to the Howard Stern radio show on The X at 105.9. Moreover,
I often like it. I tell you this now because when Stern announced last
December that his contract renegotiations were hitting a snag, and that he
might end his radio career, I felt an actual pang. After a year of
complaining to my boyfriend that Howard Stern was stupid and sexist and
racist and disgusting -- and begging him to change the station to National
Public Radio on WDUQ -- I had to admit that, as Howard himself explained in
his movie Private Parts, he had grown on me "like a fungus." The first time I
heard Howard Stern I was riding in a taxi in Manhattan. It was the early
1990s. The cab driver was Egyptian, and I was talking to him, trying to
remember the Arabic I learned in college. He pointed to the radio. "I love
this guy." I shook my head in dismay. How could an Arab immigrant like Howard
Stern? Moving in with my boyfriend changed everything. It started with him
making fun of my beloved NPR. He called it "National depressing Radio." I had
loved Morning Edition with Bob Edwards since 1984 when I started working for
the Berkeley radio station, KALX. I wanted to be a reporter for NPR. NPR was
my life. Gradually, however, I began to hear NPR through my boyfriend's
British ears. Some mornings the depressing meter on NPR was off the charts.
Famine. Ecological destruction. Death in the Middle East. Miserable rural
people. Miserable urban people. Howard Stern is a lot of things. But he is
not depressing. His stated goal, and I actually believe him, is to make
people laugh. But given his national reputation as a lewd, no-talent bigot,
and the obviously objectionable material on his show, I have struggled over
this last year to come to terms with the reasons I now look forward to his
morning shtick.
 1) Stern is about how much we all hate to go to work in the morning.
Arguably, all a.m. radio shows are about this, but when Howard Stern is on my
radio, I can pretend that I'm not really at work because even though Howard
Stern is at work he sounds like he is sitting around talking crap with his
friends
. 2) Stern affects the mantle of anti-establishmentarian. Even though he just
signed what is rumored to be a $96 million contract for five years, Stern
makes us feel like he is on the side of the little people. He stands up to
his employers (calling his former NBC boss "pig vomit" on the air), his
sponsors, and even his callers.
 3) Stern creates a sense of intimacy. By talking about his personal life,
and the personal lives of his cast/staff, Stern gives the listeners a sense
of belonging to a big, dysfunctional radio family. In a world in which the
public and the private are already hopelessly blurred, Stern takes the
breakdown to the next level. There are no private parts
. 4) Stern loves people who do not fit in. He loves strippers, dwarfs,
stutterers, comedians who aren't funny, female bodybuilders, transvestites,
lesbians. He makes fun of people on the margins, but he also gives them a
voice. His audience is so huge, I suspect, because he attracts the people who
are racist and sexist and homophobic, as well as the people who aren't and
who think that Stern's bigotry is mostly an act.
 5) Stern is a romantic. Somehow, underneath all the dirty talk, the
outrageous sex stunts and the ego as big as his nose, Stern still comes
across as the goofy, shy, gangly guy who wants desperately to fall in love
and live happily ever after. Since his divorce from his wife of 21 years in
1999 Stern seems lonely, depressed, horny and neurotic. These traits are
appealing. They make Stern seem real. We must take Stern seriously, I would
argue, even if we hate him. He has something to say, and people listen to
him. We might not always like what we hear, but at bottom Stern offers a
critique of restrictive social and sexual norms, of the modern workplace, of
social marginalization, and of the commodification of love. If you don't
believe me, try a little Howard Stern for yourself. Make yourself listen
beyond the point at which you want to turn it off. I'm warning you: You might
like it.

writer: KATHY NEWMAN

[CTRL] Ashcroft's nephew got probation after major pot bust

Ashcroft's nephew got probation after major pot bust
Although his arrest for growing 60 plants could have landed him in federal
prison, Alex Ashcroft was tried in state court and avoided jail -- despite
his uncle's crusade for tougher federal drug laws and mandatory prison
sentences
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Daniel Forbes
Jan. 12, 2001 | The nephew of Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft
received probation after a felony conviction in state court for growing 60
marijuana plants with intent to distribute the drug in 1992 -- a lenient
sentence, given that the charges against him often trigger much tougher
federal penalties and jail time. Ashcroft was the tough-on-drugs Missouri
governor at the time.
Alex Ashcroft, then 25, and his brother Adam, 19, were arrested and charged
with production and possession of marijuana after police raided their home in
January, 1992. A housemate, Kevin Sheely, then 24, was also arrested.
Officials said approximately 60 marijuana plants were found growing in a
basement crawl space, and a lighting, irrigation and security system was also
discovered.
Although growing more than 50 plants often triggers federal prosecution, and
results in jail time -- thanks to federal mandatory minimum sentencing laws
Ashcroft fought to toughen as senator -- Alex Ashcroft was prosecuted on a
state charge and received probation. His brother Adam did not live in the
house and was never prosecuted.
According to Sheely's lawyer, Dan Viets, who practices in Columbia, Mo.,
Ashcroft tested positive for drugs during his first post-probation drug test,
yet still remained free.
"As I recall it, in his first month on probation, Alex had a positive urine
test," Viets said. He asserted he has spoken to someone who has recently seen
documentary evidence of the failed test.
Reached for comment, Alex Ashcroft's father Bob first denied that his son had
failed a urine test, then said, "Anything's possible." Asked about the failed
urine test, Alex's mother, Beverly Ashcroft, told Salon, "I have no idea.
That's such an upsetting time, it's all a little foggy."
Ashcroft was sentenced to three years in the Missouri Department of
Correction for a class C felony involving more than 35 grams of marijuana.
The sentence was suspended, and he was placed on probation for three years
and sentenced to 100 hours of community service, which he served.
Ashcroft's parents point out that Sheely, who went before a different judge,
received even lighter treatment. Sheely's records are sealed, and all Viets
would say is that his client was officially "not convicted." Bob Ashcroft
says, "The prosecutor was from the other side of the aisle. He did everything
he could to prosecute my son." His mother, Beverly, adds, "I think the facts
are clear that his uncle as governor certainly did not bail Alex out."
There's no evidence Ashcroft intervened on behalf of his nephew, but Alex
Ashcroft's connection to the governor was widely known. The arrest made
national newspapers, from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution to USA Today, as
well as the local dailies.
Mindy Tucker, a spokeswoman for the Bush-Cheney transition team, said, "Given
Sen. Ashcroft's reputation for zero tolerance, I'm sure if he had anything to
do with it, the penalty would be much worse. He would have influenced it [the
sentence] in the opposite direction." She declined further comment.
The federal law enforcement official who had jurisdiction over the case at
the time, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Missouri Jean Paul
Bradshaw II, said he had no knowledge of the Ashcroft case. A Bush appointee,
he is now in private practice in Kansas City, Mo.
Others convicted of similar offenses in Missouri have certainly faced tougher
punishment. Eric Edmundson, an electrical engineer in Pineville, Mo., served
two years in Leavenworth federal prison after his August 1993 arrest for what
police said were 51 marijuana plants growing on his property.
Edmundson was accused of selling marijuana, a charge he denies. He accepted a
plea bargain to spare his wife, a non-drug user, who was also charged. "You
get a bad gut feeling in your heart, when [during sentencing] the judge says
'I'm sorry I have to do this -- no good can come out of it,'" says Edmundson,
who now works as a production manager in a circuits factory. He said he's
"bitter" that Ashcroft merely got probation after being convicted on similar
charges.
The irony of an Ashcroft relative receiving lenient treatment for a drug
offense won't be lost on drug reformers. The Drug Reform Coordination Network,
 a national advocacy group, calls Ashcroft "one of the most hawkish drug
warriors supporting some of the most extreme drug war legislation during his
tenure in the Senate." He has supported toughening mandatory minimum
sentencing laws, and has opposed efforts to end the disparity between
penalties for crack and powder cocaine, and to curtail racial profiling.
His nephews' arrests weren't the only drug-related embarrassments

Re: [CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy


-Caveat Lector-

On 12 Jan 2001, at 20:18, Jayson R. Jones wrote:

 Carl Replies:
 I will just speak for myself. Rational Anarchism acknowledges that
 all government is inherently corrupt.  It also understands stands
 that humanity by its very nature, needs social
 organization/government. hence
 it is
 concomitant upon the rational anarchist to seek that social
 organization/government which isleastcorrupt/offensive/restrictive.

 Jayson writes:
 "The theory that regards the absence of all direct or coersive
 government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and
 voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode
 of civilized society."  That is my ideal.  However, Libertarianism is
 a viable and acceptable step in that direction.  It does us all good
 when the Republicrats fight among themselves.  It shows them for what
 they are. If we can use their own words, actions and even institutions
 against them, so much the better.  Tea Party anyone? Jayson (Gotta lay
 off the exprsso late at night)

How does Carl's least corrupt/offensive/restrictive government differ
from Libertarianism?


--


Creeds must disagree: it is the whole fun of the thing.
If I think the universe is triangular, and you think it is square,
there cannot be room for two universes. We may argue politely,
we may argue humanely, we may argue with great mutual benefit;
but, obviously, we must argue. Modern toleration is really a tyranny.
It is a tyranny because it is a silence. To say that I must not deny
my opponent's faith is to say I must not discuss it . . . It is
absurd to have a discussion on Comparative Religions if you don't
compare them. - G. K. Chesterton

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2001-01-12 Thread Samantha L.


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In a message dated 1/12/01 7:10:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I have not led a perfect life -- a standard that increasingly seems expected
  of candidates for high-level government appointment. No aspect of a
nominee'
 s
  personal life, no matter how intimate and irrelevant to the job in
question,
  goes unexamined. No incident in one's life, regardless of how long ago,
goes
  unexplored. And if a Cabinet nominee fails to disclose -- or recall -- a
  matter as trivial as a traffic fine or a visit to a marriage counselor
  decades earlier, the failure will be interpreted in the worst possible
light.


  Linda Chavez, the comic.   Good thing we're stupid.

Samantha

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[CTRL] Gale Norton = Ecocide

2001-01-12 Thread DIG alfred webre


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 Alert: Oppose Gale Norton and the Wise Use Agenda

 Posted by ecott on Friday January 12, @11:35AM

 More than 200 national, state and local groups, along with labor and civil
 rights leaders, have united to oppose the nomination of Colorado attorney
 Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior (www.SayNoToNorton.org).

 Oppose Gale Norton and the Wise Use Agenda

 Subject:  Gale Norton and the Wise Use Agenda  Date:  Fri, 12 Jan 2001
 14:00:25 -0500  From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A special report of CLEAR, the anti-environmentalism watchdog.

 ** Please distribute ** ** Please distribute ** ** Please distribute **

 More than 200 national, state and local groups, along with labor and civil
 rights leaders, have united to oppose the nomination of Colorado attorney
 Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior (www.SayNoToNorton.org).

 There are many reasons that Gale Norton should not serve in Interior. Most
 of these reasons are related to Norton's connections with and work on
 behalf of the anti-environmentalism movement.

 CLEAR has been conducting research in Norton's wise use affiliations.

 Citizens, activists, and members of the US Senate need to ask: "Will Gale
 Norton pursue the "Wise Use Agenda" if she is confirmed as Secretary of
 Interior?"

 Visit -- www.presidentbushwatch.org

 Gale Norton's Associations with Anti-Environmental and Wise Use Groups

 Gale Norton has a long history of involvement with anti-environmental
 groups and the Wise Use movement. Below are descriptions of some of the
 groups in question, and details of her involvement with them. CLEAR is
 currently looking into other groups with which Norton has worked, so this
 list should not be considered exhaustive.

 Coalition of Republican Environmental Advocates

 Gale Norton was a founder and the National Chair of CREA, an
 "environmental" group with a highly questionable green pedigree.
 Republicans for Environmental Protection (REP), a group of Republicans
 with demonstrably good environmental records, has described CREA as "a
 transparent attempt to fool voters who care about environmental
 protection." REP's newsletter went on to say that "CREA shows no signs of
 being either grassroots or pro-environment. The word greenscam comes first
 to mind.Their enthusiasm for taxpayer- soaking corporate subsidies betrays
 a lack of sincerity in their alleged support for the free market." CREA
 positioned itself as a grassroots organization, but all evidence pointed
 to the contrary. CREA was, in fact, a political action committee. This was
 not mentioned on the CREA web site (www.gop4environment.org, now out of
 commission). The group has been inactive since 1998.

 When the Atlanta Journal and Constitution asked Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY),
 whom REP named "Environmental Legislator of the Year" in 1998, if he was a
 member of CREA, he replied, "Oh gosh, no. I belong to a respectable
 environmental organization." In fact, no Republicans with good
 environmental voting records are involved with CREA. Instead, the group's
 "Honorary Board Members" included Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), Rep. Don
 Young (R-AK), Richard Pombo (R-CA), Rep. Helen Chenoweth (R-ID), Sen. Dirk
 Kempthorne (R-ID), Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID). These six members of Congress
 had a 1997 combined average League of Conservation Voters score of only 5
 percent.

 Also an honorary board member was Americans for Tax Reform's Grover
 Norquist, who was at the time a registered lobbyist for British Petroleum.
 According to the Christian Science Monitor, CREA's steering committee
 included "registered lobbyists for the petroleum, mining, auto-making,
 firearms and alcoholic beverage industries." CREA was funded by Coors
 Brewing Co., American Forest and Paper Association, the Chemical
 Manufacturers Association, Amoco, ARCO, Ford Motors, and similar
 corporations, all of which fund other anti-environmental organizations.

 Defenders of Property Rights

 Norton sits on the Board of Advisors of Defenders of Property Rights
 (DPR), a Washington-based legal foundation dedicated entirely to property
 rights matters, which was founded in 1991 by former Mountain States Legal
 Foundation staffers Roger and Nancie Marzulla. DPR is clearly excited
 about the prospect of Norton's confirmationsoon after her nomination, the
 group optimistically changed Norton's affiliation on its web site to
 "Secretary of the Interior."

 DPR's primary goal has been to promote "takings" laws, which threaten to
 make environmental laws and regulations prohibitively expensive by
 requiring payments to private landowners and others who might be affected
 by regulations. The group litigates takings-related cases, and also
 lobbies for the passage of such laws at both the state and the national
 level. Defenders of Property Rights staffers reportedly worked, behind the
 scene, on the 1995 Omnibus Property Rights Bill, sponsored by Larry Craig.

 Unlike most D.C.-based

Re: [CTRL] IT will change the world!

2001-01-12 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld


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From: "Jenny Decker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 IN OTHER WORDS, THE STIRLING ENGINE COULD BE USED BY THOSE STRANDED ON A
 DESERT ISLAND TO MYSTERIOUSLY BRING THEM ALL THE GRACIOUS CONVENIENCES OF
 CIVILIZATION, MUCH AS GINGER MYSTERIOUSLY HAS A PRISTINE DRYCLEANED EVENING
 GOWN, FRESH HAIRDO, MAKEUP AND SEX APPEAL WITHOUT ANY ACCESS TO CONVENTIONAL
 SOURCES OF THESE.

I'm going with "Ginger" as in "Fred's" partner in many films of the 1930s...

A scaled-down IBot that can dance on it's toes...

While the articles did mention Kamen's interest in the Stirling Engine, they also 
stressed how the bulk of
both intellectual and material resources have been devoted to the IBot the past couple 
of years...so it would
make sense that whatever "Ginger" is, it is something that developed as a spin-off of 
the RD spent on the
IBot...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?

2001-01-12 Thread nexusmagazine


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thanks for posting this Ole.  Now everyone can see what happens to
researchers of our ilk, who happen to contradict David Icke's favourite
theory of the moment.
And for the record, I would not say we have massively promoted Laurence
Gardner.  He became popular in his own right amongs NEXUS-type readers,
BASED ON HIS RESEARCH!

Gardner is NOT nobility, does NOT claim to stem from any royal lineage,
and is an ordinary guy.  His titles were bestowed upon him so as to grant
access to records of various royal families of Europe.

Icke, Swerdlow and Wilder should be ashamed of themselves for publishing
such smear.  I would have expected to see this sort of unsubstantiated
trash in Weekly World News.

Shame on YOU too Ole for regurgitating such rubbish.  Why don't YOU do
some research and find out for yourself how shoddy David Icke's research
is?

Why don't you or Icke debate Gardner on his research points instead of
name-calling and character smear?  Are you cowards?  Are you on some
agenda?

Why stoop to such gutter tactics to disuade people from reading Gardner's
work?

Must be threatened by something he says methinks!


IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE?

  New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes
   part in human sacrifice rituals.
Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet.

  by DAVID ICKE


Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when
Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess,
that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal
Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who
took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed.

Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been
particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir
Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his
magazine.

  But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that
he also
  witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the
Montauk mind
  control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir
Laurence Gardner
  played a major role.

  Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project:
The Alien
Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap;
Healing of the
Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now
extensively
documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14
in the early
seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys".


Duncan M. Roads
Editor, NEXUS Magazine
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280;   Fax:  +61 (0)7 5442 9381
http://www.nexusmagazine.com  ICQ#62399259

"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means.
On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
(Aldous Huxley)

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[CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-12 Thread Carl Amedio


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  Friday, 12 January, 2001, 15:17 GMT
The military get mightier



Is this the shape of GIs to come?

By BBC News Online's Mark Ward
The US military is planning to turn soldiers into supermen by fitting them
with powered exoskeletons.

The research arm of the US military is spending $50m to develop new
technologies that will improve the speed, strength and endurance of soldiers.

The research programme is aiming to give soldiers better protection against
enemy fire, the ability to tote bigger guns, run faster, communicate better
and help them avoid friendly fire.

The first trials of the technology are expected within the decade.

Power play

This month, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) is
expected to sign contracts to kick off the project to develop powered
exoskeletons for its ground troops.

The contract signings follow a year of meetings and assessments run by Darpa
to find the most promising technologies.

So far, Darpa, the main research and development organisation for the US
Department of Defense, has not said which ideas it favours, but it has set
out the broad goals of the programme which calls for technologies that can
help troops:

carry heavier packs;
march faster over longer distances;
lift heavier objects and use larger weapons;
leap extraordinary heights and/or distances.
Dr Ephrahim Garcia, co-ordinator of the exoskeleton project, said its demands
were "formidable" and much of the initial research was speculative to prove
concepts rather than develop finished products.

"The controls, the power requirements, the human interface to the machine are
all things that we do not know if we can do yet," he said. "There is a huge
challenge here."

He added that the exoskeletons must be something that troops can wear and use
without thinking rather than something they have to operate.

Suited up

The powered suits will help soldiers carry and use larger weapons and to take
heavier loads into battle. Currently, soldiers carry a pack that is no more
than a third of their body weight and usually take far less into combat.

Field trials have shown that troops typically dump anything too bulky or
heavy to carry for long distances.

The exoskeletons will also have to be almost silent to operate and use fuel
very efficiently. And soldiers must be able to use them for at least 24 hours
before needing to refuel.

Early work sponsored by Darpa has used pneumatic muscles or deformable
magnets to power artificial limbs or suits that soldiers could wear. Trials
of a Springwalker system helped its developers travel at speeds in excess of
24 km/h (15 mph).

Stuck in the mud

The exoskeletons are expected to include a sensor web that expands a
soldier's field of vision, passes on information about battlefield
conditions, using GPS or thermal cameras, helps to co-ordinate groups of
other soldiers and lessens the chance of being hit by friendly fire.

Conducting fabrics could be used to swap data between sensors, and wireless
networks could pass information between squads or soldiers.

The suits could also act as body armour or have physiological monitoring
systems that let officers know the health of the troops under their command.

Field trials of mock-ups of future systems on soldiers running a
cross-country course revealed the limitations of some approaches.

Visors on helmets that could double as screens got in the way of rifle sights
or made the headgear bulky and unstable. Other sensors or power packs
distributed around the body of a soldier got in the way when combatants were
crawling and made it harder for them to hide.

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Re: [CTRL] The Corporate Conservative Administration

2001-01-12 Thread lassey


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It is certainly different from what Slick Willy did. He appointed his
UNQUALIFIED,
UNETHICAL friends!


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:49:32 -0800 radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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 The Corporate Conservative Administration
 By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

 Compassionate conservativism?

 Try corporate conservativism. It's corporate conservatism that is
 going to
 be the defining feature of the Bush White House.

 Pushing beyond the corporate corrupting frontiers blazed by the
 Clinton
 administration, the Bush team is making clear that it intends to
 deliver
 on its campaign promises to strengthen Big Business's grip over
 government
 policy-making.

 The Bush cabinet is drawing on corporate executives as much or more
 than
 any previous administration. Andrew Card, set to be Bush's chief of
 staff,
 moves to the White House from a posting as General Motors vice
 president.
 Previous to that position, he ran the auto industry's lobby shop.
 Bush has
 tapped Paul O'Neill, chair of Alcoa, to head his Treasury
 Department. Bush
 crony Don Evans, the Commerce Secretary-designee, is CEO of Tom
 Brown,
 Inc., an oil company. Donald Rumsfeld, the Bush nominee to head the
 Pentagon, is former CEO of G.D. Searle and of General Instrument,
 and has
 held a variety of other top corporate posts. Bush's nominee for
 Veterans
 Affairs Secretary, Anthony Principi, is president of a wireless
 telecommunications company. National Security Adviser-designate
 Condoleeza
 Rice is a member of the board of directors of Chevron (which has
 christened an oil tanker, the Condoleeza Rice) and Charles Schwab,
 and is
 a member of J.P. Morgan's International Advisory Council.

 Of course, both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (CEO of Haliburton,
 the oil
 services firm) themselves both come from the oil industry.

 Bush's transition team is dominated by high donors and corporate
 interests. Of the 474 individuals on the transition team, 261 made
 political contributions during the last election cycle, the Center
 for
 Responsive Politics reports -- and 95 percent of the $5.3 million
 they
 contributed went to Republican candidates or the Republican Party.

 Even more telling is the overwhelming corporate background of the
 transition team members.

 The transition team for the Department of Energy, for example, is
 almost
 exclusively made up of people affiliated with or working for the
 extractive energy industry. Companies and outfits represented
 include:
 Phillips Petroleum, Enron, Kennecott, Southern California Edison,
 the
 National Mining Association and the Nuclear Energy Institute.

 For the Department of Health and Human Services transition, the
 drug,
 biotech, insurance and hospital industries are set to have their
 way. The
 transition team includes representatives from Merck, the American
 Hospital
 Association, Mutual of Omaha, BIO (the biotech trade group), Ernst
 and
 Young and the National Association of Health Underwriters.

 On the Department of Labor transition team, you find two members of
 the
 Teamsters, and no other labor-affiliated representatives. Instead,
 the
 transition team comes from Union Pacific, the National Restaurant
 Association, the American Trucking Association, the National Mining
 Association, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Society of Human
 Resource Managers.

 It's unlikely that the transition team members -- at least as a body
 --
 had much influence over Bush's cabinet appointments, but they may
 well
 have significant sway in the hiring of second- and third-tier
 officials.
 These are the people who get their hands dirty on policy details,
 and can
 deliver the goodies to the corporate paymasters.

 More ceremonial posts are being parceled out with a machine-like
 efficiency to high donors and top fundraisers.

 Inaugural Committee Co-Chairs Bill and Kathy DeWitt and Mercer and
 Gabrielle Reynolds come from the Cincinnati-based investment firm
 Reynolds, DeWitt and Company. Bill DeWitt and Gabrielle Reynolds
 were
 co-chairs of the Ohio Bush-Cheney Finance Committee. Other members
 of the
 inaugural committee sport similar resumes.

 Following in the Clinton-Gore footsteps, Bush-Cheney are soliciting
 private funds for the inauguration. While Clinton-Gore at least
 restricted
 the donations to $100 or less, however, Bush-Cheney are banking on
 major
 donors. More than 50 individuals have each contributed $100,000 or
 more to
 the inauguration committee.

 Bush's economic summit, held earlier this month in Austin, was
 actually a
 get-together with business leaders. The Austin meeting featured 36
 top
 corporate executives, including such major Republican donors as
 Kenneth
 Lay of Enron, John T. Chambers of Cisco and Michael Dell of Dell
 Computer.

 As you would imagine, this turn of events has corporate American
 dancing
 in the streets. "They are happy, certainly," Jim Albertine,
 president of
 the American League of Lobbyists, told the Boston

Re: [CTRL] Students for an Undemocratic Society

2001-01-12 Thread lassey


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This must have been written when someone was on drugs.
--

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:49:44 -0800 radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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 From: "Students for an Undemocratic Society"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: January 10, 2001
 Subject: Join Students for an Undemocratic Society!

 WHO ARE STUDENTS FOR AN UNDEMOCRATIC SOCIETY?
 We are the children of the political, military, and business elites
 of
 America.  We have worked for years to undermine democracy worldwide,
 and
 seek to celebrate the fact that-with the installation of presidents
 Cheney
 and Bush-even the pretense of American democracy has at last been
 cast
 aside.  We march in support of the property-owning, white
 heterosexual male
 who rules by violence.

 THE SUDS STATEMENT:
 Feel free to use, abuse, or alter:

 KNEEL BEFORE BUSH!  KNEEL BEFORE CHENEY!

 Mobutu.  Suharto.  Fujimori.
 For decades, the United States has propped up tin-plated despots not
 only in
 Zaire, Indonesia, and Peru, but all over the world.  Yet we are the
 largest
 imperial power on earth.  Shouldn't we have a strongman of our very
 own?

 PRESIDENT BUSH?  TRY, "EMPEROR BUSH!"
 It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?  We all know that America has
 never
 really been a true democracy.  But in this election, when we bought
 Dick and
 George to the tune of $191,617,196 (and, just to hedge our bets,
 Gore for
 $132,624,544); disenfranchised black voters in Florida (and all over
 the
 country!); and, finally, had a corrupt, nepotistic right-wing
 Supreme Court
 install our boys, in the tradition of such great decisions as Dred
 Scott and
 Plessy v. Ferguson: well, we did away with even the pretense of
 American
 democracy.  And for that we're proud.

 WHOSE STREETS?  NOT YOURS!
 Let's face it-our idiot boy-king and his retainer are in charge now
 whether
 you like it or not.  And you had better like it if you don't want to
 end up
 in a Mississippi work camp after the 2003 purges!  Here's a simple
 guide
 that will help you stop thinking and relinquish control to us, your
 rightful
 masters.

 KNOW YOUR RIGHTS-KNOW YOUR PLACE!
 Give up that pesky identity and join us!  It feels good to sublimate
 your
 individuality to the machine.  Feeling a little "warm in the pants"
 for
 someone of the same gender, or of a different race?  Or someone
 you're not
 married to?  Or yourself?  In fact, are you feeling "warm in the
 pants" at
 all?  Take a cold shower, hoss.  Once Attorney General Ashcroft
 (soon to be
 "Minister of Death Ashcroft") is sworn in, sex is for procreation
 only.
 Under penalty of castration!

 Feeling "strange," or "angry?"  Like you might need to "express
 yourself"
 through artwork, or even worse, by speaking or assembling freely?
 Or maybe
 you've got a gripe against your boss, your landlord, your bank?
 Well, shut
 up and get back to work.  "What about the first amendment?," you
 ask.  Shut
 up and get back to work, we say again, more loudly, this time
 brandishing
 our horsewhip.

 Maybe you were born "different."  Maybe you're strange-looking, or
 unable to
 walk, or have "non-white" skin.  Well, we property-owning
 heterosexual white
 Christian males know that's not your fault.  Stay out of trouble,
 keep your
 head down, and do everything we say, and maybe we'll find a nice job
 for
 you.  Just like Clarence Thomas!

 MORE PRISONS-MORE PROFIT!
 We SUDS are proud of the fact that, with 690 prisoners for every
 100,000
 people, the US is the world leader in rates of incarceration!
 That's a
 six-fold increase since 1970!  One in three black males between the
 ages of
 20-29 are under some type of correctional control (1 in 15 white and
 1 in 8
 Hispanic).  And with Presidents Cheney and Bush in office-George
 presided
 over a whopping 152 executions in the state of Texas!-it's only
 going to get
 better (for us.  For you, it's going to get worse).  And with
 Minister of
 Death Ashcroft, who has praised Confederate slave-holders, is cuddly
 with
 Bob Jones University, and has called addicts seeking treatment "the
 lowest
 and the least," we're looking at death-camp, USA!  With our new
 "Vassalage
 21" initiative, we're hoping to have 87% of the male population
 behind bars
 by 2004.  Think of the possibilities: no tipping, your waiter's on a
 work-release program!  Your caddy gives you sass?  Give HIM a lethal
 injection!  Since 1995, the US has spent $5.1 Billion in new prison
 construction alone!  That translates into LOTS of cheap labor:
 future Health
  Human Services Secretary (soon to be "Minister of Pestilence")
 Tommy
 Thompson passed a budget as Governor of Wisconsin allowing
 commercial
 entities to use prison facilities and labor for manufacturing
 purposes, just
 like they do in California, Tennessee, Kansas, Ohio, Oregon, Texas,
 Nevada,
 and Iowa!  The Correctional Industries Association estimates that in
 2000,
 30 percent of America's inmate population labored to

[CTRL] So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer...

2001-01-12 Thread Damaeus


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So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer...
by Sol Lightman




Think again.  Cigarette companies will have you believing anything just as
long as you continue to buy their products.  The fact is, although insoluble
tars are a contributing factor to the lung cancer danger present in today's
cigarettes, the real danger is radioactivity.  According to U.S. Surgeon
General C.  Everette Koop (on national television, 1990) radioactivity, not
tar, accounts for at least 90% of all smoking related lung cancer.

Tobacco crops grown in the United States are fertilized by law with
phosphates rich in radium 226.  In addition, many soils have a natural
radium 226 content.  Radium 226 breaks down into two long lived 'daughter'
elements -- lead 210 and polonium 210.  These radioactive particles become
airborne, and attach themselves to the fine hairs on tobacco leaves.

Studies have shown that lead 210 and polonium 210 deposits accumulate in the
bodies of people exposed to cigarette smoke.  Data collected in the late
1970's shows that smokers have three times as much of these elements in
their lower lungs as non smokers.  Smokers also show a greater accumulation
of lead 210 and polonium 210 in their skeletons,though no studies have been
conducted to link these deposits with bone cancer.  Polonium 210 is the only
component of cigarette smoke which has produced tumors by itself in
inhalation experiments with animals.

When a smoker inhales tobacco smoke, the lungs react by forming irritated
areas in the bronchi.  All smoke produces this effect.  However, although
these irritated spots are referred to as 'pre-cancerous' lesions, they are a
perfectly natural defense system and usually go away with no adverse
effects.  Insoluble tars in tobacco smoke can slow this healing process by
adhering to lesions and causing additional irritation.  In addition, tobacco
smoke causes the bronchi to constrict for long periods of time, which
obstructs the lung's ability to clear itself of these residues.

Polonium 210 and lead 210 in tobacco smoke show a tendency to accumulate at
lesions in specific spots, called bifurcations, in the bronchi.  When
smoking is continued for an extended period of time, deposits of
radioactivity turn into radioactive 'hot spots' and remain at bifurcations
for years.  Polonium 210 emits highly localized alpha radiation which has
been shown to cause cancer.  Since the polonium 210 has a half life of 21.5
years (Due to the presence of lead 210), it can put an ex-smoker at risk for
years after he or she quits.  Experiments measuring the level of polonium
210 in victims of lung cancer found that the level of 'hot spot' activity
was virtually the same in smokers and ex-smokers even though the ex-smokers
had quit five years prior to death.

Over half of the radioactive materials emitted by a burning cigarette are
released into the air, where they can be inhaled by non-smokers.  In
addition to lead 210 and polonium 210 it has been proven that tobacco smoke
can cause airborne radioactive particles to collect in the lungs of both
smokers and non-smokers exposed to second hand smoke.  Original studies
conducted on uranium miners which showed an increased risk of lung cancer
due to exposure to radon in smokers have been re-run to evaluate the
radioactive lung cancer risk from indoor air radon.  It turns out that
tobacco smoke works as a kind of 'magnet' for airborne radioactive
particles, causing them to deposit in your lungs instead of on furniture.
(Smoking indoors increases lung cancer risks greatly.)

It has been estimated that the total accumulated alpha radiation exposure of
a pack-a-day indoor smoker is 38 to 97 rad by age 60.  (Two packs a day
yields up to 143 rad, and non-smokers receive no more than 17 rad.)  An
exposure of 1 rad per year yields a 1% risk of lung cancer (at the lowest
estimate.)

Don't smoke.  Or if you do, smoke lightly, outdoors, and engage frequently
in activities which will clear your lungs.  Imported India tobacco has less
than half the radiation content ofthat grown in the U.S.

Nicotine, the active ingredient in tobacco smoke, has long been known to be
highly addictive.  In fact, doctors and pharmacologists are not in consensus
as to which is more addictive -- nicotine, or heroin.

Many people think smoking marijuana is just as harmful as smoking tobacco,
but this is not true.  Those who hold that marijuana is equivalent to
tobacco are misinformed.  Due to the efforts of various federal agencies to
discourage use of marijuana in the 1970's the government, in a fit of
"reefer madness," conducted several biased studies designed to return
results that would equate marijuana smoking with tobacco smoking, or worse.

For example the Berkeley carcinogenic tar studies of the late 1970's
concluded that "marijuana is one-and-a-half times as carcinogenic as
tobacco."  This finding was based

[CTRL] Legal War on Chads Heats Up


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{Looks like Jesse should have stayed home and he and JJ Jr. tended their own
problems.  These are identical to the ones in Florida.  Where are the cries
of "disenfranchisement"?  I wonder when black people are going to realize
that making Jesse rich does not enhance their lives at all.  These Limousine
Liberals are totally self-serving.  Guess this is a Demonrat vast conspiracy
to deny blacks the right to vote.  Where are the threats and the outrage?
It is OK in Illinois but not Florida? AKE}}

Legal War on Chads Heats Up
NewsMax.com
Friday, Jan. 12, 2001
First Florida, then Georgia, now Illinois: Suits are being filed to end
punch-card balloting. Chicago, with Democratic officials in control,
rejected 70,000 such ballots.
According to the Associated Press:

The American Civil Liberties Union went to federal court Thursday to banish
the voting system producing "chads" that is used in 89 Illinois counties,
including Cook County, which contains Chicago.

This follows on the heels of similar action in Florida and Georgia, where
civil rights groups argue the error-prone punch-card system disenfranchises
thousands of black voters.

Some 70,000 Chicago ballots were thrown out and not counted in the Nov. 7
presidential election because no vote for president had been punched or
there were votes for more than one candidate.

Harvey Grossman, state ACLU legal director, said the error rate was highest
in predominantly minority precincts.

Fewer ballots were disqualified in counties with an optical scanner system,
which is what the ACLU wants to replace punch cards.

Used now in only 13 Illinois counties, the scanner system warns voters who
make a mistake, allowing them to revise their votes before their ballot is
recorded.




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[CTRL] No Evidence of Florida Vote Plot


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{Now apply the same exaggeration rate of this episode to the Demonrat
outrageous claims about cabinet nominees for a much more accurate picture of
reality.  Normal people would be embarassed to have lied like this but then
I guess that depends on what your definition of normal is. AKE}

No Evidence of Florida Vote Plot
NewsMax.com
Friday, Jan. 12, 2001
So far, Jesse Jackson's allegation of a statewide Republican conspiracy to
disenfranchise black Florida voters has fizzled out at a Commission on Civil
Rights hearing.
The United States Commission on Civil Rights voted unanimously last month to
conduct its own investigation of accusations by the militant black activist
and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People that
widespread voter fraud involving minorities in the Nov. 7 election in
Florida had cost Democratic Vice President Al Gore the presidency.

They laid the blame squarely on the Republican governor, Jeb Bush, brother
of the victorious Republican candidate, George W. Bush.

Under Florida law, independently elected supervisors in each county
determine what balloting devices are used.

In all counties where Jackson and the NAACP have alleged voter fraud, it was
Democratic and Independent, not Republican, local election officials who
were in charge.

Florida's secretary of state, a constitutional official elected statewide
and independent of the governor, is responsible for overseeing the execution
of election laws.

At the end of the first day of their hearing in the state capital,
Tallahassee, commission members were at a loss to explain why none of the
accusers' key witnesses could offer even one shred of evidence to back up
the allegations of a GOP conspiracy to steal Florida's critical electoral
votes for the Republican nominee.

A story in the Friday issue of the Washington Times reports that:

None of three black voters called as leadoff witnesses could show the
commission that they had been denied their right to vote in the election.

John Nelson, Roberta Tucker and the Rev. Willie D. Whiting, all of
Tallahassee, testified under oath that although they had concerns and had
read about problems of voter irregularities, they all had voted at their
polling precincts:

. Nelson recalled having seen unmanned police cars near different polling
places on Election Day and thought that was "unusual."

. Tucker said that although she was detained briefly at a routine police
driver's-license checkpoint that had been functioning for weeks before the
election and was no closer than two miles from any polling place, she was
waved on after producing her valid license.

. Whiting said his name had been purged by mistake from the voting rolls
when he had inaccurately been identified as a felon, but he was allowed to
vote after a call to an election supervisor.

The commission chair, Mary Frances Berry, said that even though not one of
the witnesses in the daylong hearing had been denied access to a polling
site, "we know some bad things happened."

Then she added: "I have not concluded that there was a conspiracy. I just
don't know yet."

Noting that Florida law allows the governor to appoint "special officers to
investigate violations of election law," she said she had not determined
whether the evidence was sufficient to suggest he should have done so.

Florida's governor, subpoenaed to appear before the commission, testified
that a preliminary investigation by state officials found no evidence of
wrongdoing, but state and federal authorities are continuing to investigate.


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[CTRL] Colombian Rebels, Paramilitary Battle in Ecuador


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Friday January 12 7:25 PM ET
Colombian Rebels, Paramilitary Battle in Ecuador

By Amy Taxin

QUITO, Ecuador (Reuters) - Colombian rebels and right-wing paramilitary
forces battled outside a small town in Ecuador's Amazon jungle, the first
clash between the two in Ecuadorean territory, the country's defense
ministry sources said on Friday.

The incident heightens fears that Colombia's 40-year-old conflict is
spilling across the border. It also left two Colombians dead, but Ecuador's
military did not say which side they were on.

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and paramilitary fighters
clashed at 2:15 p.m. on Thursday, the military high command said in a
statement.

Ecuadorean troops were not involved in the clash, according to the military
high command, which declined to provide details beyond a two-paragraph
statement. Neither Ecuadorean government officials, nor Colombia's embassy
in Quito would comment on the statement.

The fighting occurred one day after Ecuadorean officers discovered an
abandoned guerrilla camp about five miles over the border from Colombia,
with a hut, trenches, military uniforms and backpacks, that several local
officials said belonged to the FARC, Colombia's biggest rebel group.

Ecuador's armed forces also discovered and destroyed a FARC-owned factory
that was manufacturing military uniforms and equipment, an Ecuadorean
military source told Reuters.

Fears Over Colombia's U.S.-Backed Plan

There are widespread fears that Colombia's U.S.-backed plan to combat drug
trafficking may push rebels and paramilitary groups, believed to finance
their activities through the narcotics trade, across the roughly
370-mile-long border.

Some local officials have accused Ecuador's government of pushing the
country into Colombia's internal conflict -- which involves security forces,
rebels, paramilitary groups and drug traffickers -- by allowing U.S. drug
surveillance planes to use a coastal air force base in the city of Manta.

Colombia's other neighbors, Venezuela, Peru and Panama have all expressed
concern about spillover from ``Plan Colombia,'' an effort to battle drug
trafficking and violence. The plan is supported by $1.3 billion in U.S. aid.

According to political analyst Patricio Falconi, the close economic ties
between Ecuadoreans living along the border and Colombian guerrilla members
who travel through the region make events of this kind inevitable.

``Plan Colombia is not the cause of this problem. Plan Colombia is more like
a medicine, applied to a problem that has existed for a long time. The
medicine could be good, regular, bad or worse than the sickness, but the
problem existed before,'' he told Reuters.

In October, Ecuador's government accused the FARC, which controls a
Switzerland-sized territory in southern Colombia, of kidnapping 10 foreign
oil workers from Ecuador's Amazon jungle region. The FARC denied
responsibility.

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[CTRL] Sources: Ecuador Finds Possible Rebel Camp


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Sources: Ecuador Finds Possible Rebel Camp

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QUITO, Ecuador (Reuters) - Ecuador believes it has found an abandoned
Colombian guerrilla camp in its jungle, fueling fears leftist rebels from
its northern neighbor may be operating across the border, military sources
said on Thursday.

One military source said the makeshift camp on Ecuador's side of the
Putumayo region in the Amazon jungle had a hut, made in a way that indicated
it was built by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), the
nation's biggest guerrilla group.

``We found a small encampment, where members of the FARC may have been,'' a
source in the intelligence unit of the military high command told Reuters on
Thursday.

There are no Ecuadorean guerrilla groups. But there are widespread fears
Colombia's U.S.-backed plan to combat drug trafficking may push rebels and
paramilitary groups, who are believed to finance their fighting from the
narcotics trade, across the roughly 370-mile shared border.

Some local officials have accused the government of pushing Ecuador into
Colombia's chaotic 40-year conflict, which involves security forces, rebels,
paramilitary groups and drug-traffickers, by allowing U.S. drug surveillance
planes to use a coastal air force base.

Colombia's other neighbors, Venezuela, Peru and Panama have all expressed
concern about spillover from ``Plan Colombia,'' which has $1.3 billion in
U.S. backing.

In October, Ecuador's government accused the FARC, which controls a
Switzerland-sized territory in the south of Colombia, of kidnapping 10
foreign oil workers from Ecuador's Amazon jungle region. The FARC
immediately denied the kidnapping.

Ecuador's President Gustavo Noboa has said he plans to install ex-military
officers as governors in the border provinces and that he will declare a
state of emergency in the area, if necessary.


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[CTRL] Foster Photos Ordered Released


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Foster Photos Ordered Released
Reed Irvine
Jan. 12, 2001

A federal judge has ordered the Office of the Independent Counsel (OIC) to
release five crime scene photographs of the late White House Deputy Counsel
Vincent W. Foster Jr.
Nearly four years ago attorney Allan J. Favish filed a suit under the
Freedom of Information Act to obtain these and other photos taken by U.S.
Park Police officers when they found Foster's body in Fort Marcy Park on
July 20, 1993. Favish presented evidence to show that the official findings
that Foster killed himself where his body was found were wrong. He argued
that the photos should be made available to the experts who question the
official story.

Those ordered released show (1) Foster's body as seen from the top of the
berm on which it was lying; (2) the right side of his shoulder and arm; (3)
the gun with Foster's thumb inside the trigger guard; (4) another one of the
right side of his shoulder and arm; (5) one focusing on the top of his head
through heavy foliage.

The judge ruled that five of the photos were so "graphic and extremely
upsetting" that their release would violate the privacy of Foster's family.
These showed (1) Foster's face, which would show signs of a small amount of
blood having trickled from his right nostril and the right corner of his
mouth; (2) Foster's head and upper torso; (3) a direct view of his face; (4)
the right side of his face and shoulder, and (5) his body taken from below
his feet.

Favish, who filed his suit in March 1997, will appeal to get all the photos
released. The one showing the right side of Foster's face and shoulder has
been reported by those who have seen it to show evidence of trauma on Foster
's neck just below the jaw line. This is where paramedic Richard Arthur, who
examined the body at Fort Marcy Park, said he saw a small-caliber bullet
wound.

Miquel Rodriguez, the prosecutor who began the grand jury investigation
initiated by Ken Starr, had this photo enhanced. He is said to believe that
the dark spot is evidence of a bullet wound. The location is one that is
favored by some professional hit men to fire a small-caliber bullet into
their victim's brain, killing with a minimum of mess.

Brian Blackbourne, a pathologist hired by Starr, dismissed the dark spot as
dried blood. Apparently he saw it in an autopsy photo, because he explained
that dried blood sometimes remains after the body is washed. The Park Police
photo was apparently not shown to him or to the pathologists hired by Starr'
s predecessor, Robert Fiske, Jr. It should be made available for them and
other experts to examine.

The judge's claim that all the photos showing Foster's face are graphic is
disputed by Pete Simonello, the Park Police officer who took many photos of
Foster at the park. Simonello says there is nothing graphic about them.
There was very little visible blood and no sign of an exit wound in the back
of the head. An officer palpated the back of the skull. Finding only a soft
spot, he concluded that the bullet had fractured the skull but had not
exited.

The medical examiner who performed the autopsy told the police that the
X-rays had shown that no bullet fragments remained inside the skull. On his
report he checked the box for X-rays made. He later denied that he had taken
any, claiming that the machine was not working. That was false. It was a new
machine, and the first service call, for a minor adjustment, was made three
months later.

The examiner also said the entrance wound was in the back of the throat, 7
1/2 inches below the top of the head. He claimed he found an exit wound the
size of a half dollar in the back of the skull three inches below the crown.
It's too bad there are no X-rays to show how that could happen.

At least one of the photos that the judge ordered released, the photo of the
gun in Foster's hand, provides ammunition to critics of the official story.
It proves that the reason given for the gun remaining in Foster's hand is
false. The official story is that the gun was stuck on Foster's thumb, above
the joint, jammed between the trigger and the trigger guard. The photo shows
the guard encircling the tip of the thumb, not above the joint. It was not
jammed. We know this because that photo was leaked to the media in 1994.
That is a good reason to demand the release of the rest.
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[CTRL] Clinton Likely to OK Colombian Aid


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Clinton Likely to OK Colombian Aid
by KEN GUGGENHEIM
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Despite objections from human rights advocates, President
Clinton is expected to clear the way next week for the release of the
remaining money in a $1.3 billion Colombian anti-drug aid package.

''The president has supported Plan Colombia and you can expect that he will
continue to support Plan Colombia,'' said National Security Council
spokesman P.J. Crowley.

In a report issued Friday, human rights groups urged Clinton to block the
aid, saying Colombia has failed to meet any of the rights requirements set
out by Congress.

The groups fear that Clinton will invoke a national security waiver to
bypass the conditions -- as he did in August when he allowed most of the
package's money to go through.

''We're pretty certain these conditions will be waived. That's the message
we've been hearing,'' said Andrew Miller of Amnesty International, which
issued the report together with Human Rights Watch and the Washington Office
on Latin America.

What's at stake is a relatively small part of the $1.3 billion package.
Rights groups estimate about $100 million is left. Neither Crowley nor State
Department officials could provide a precise figure.

Most of the package was for the last fiscal year, providing Colombia with
helicopters and other military equipment to fight leftist guerrillas who
partly finance their insurgency by protecting coca fields and cocaine
laboratories.

Because of concerns about Colombian army links to paramilitaries blamed for
most of the country's massacres, Congress set six conditions -- five related
to human rights -- that Colombia had to meet before the money could be
spent.

But Congress allowed the president to waive these conditions on national
security grounds. In August, Clinton waived five conditions and certified
only one: that Colombia's president has directed that soldiers accused of
rights violations be tried in civilian courts.

Miller and George Vickers, executive director of the Washington Office on
Latin America, said they expect one more condition will be certified: the
deployment of a judge advocate general corps to investigate military
misconduct. They expect the other conditions will be waived.

''It sends a p.r. message that will be played very widely in Colombia: That
the president of the United States says that they are making progress in
human rights concerns, when in fact nothing substantively has changed and in
fact some things have gotten worse,'' Vickers said.

Crowley said Clinton will act on the Colombian aid before his term ends next
Saturday, but he said no decision has been made about how he will address
the rights conditions.

On Thursday, two Democratic senators called on Clinton not to use the waiver
again.

''The Colombian military has still not taken the firm clear steps necessary
to remove human rights abusers from its ranks or to ensure that its
personnel are not linked to paramilitary organizations,'' Paul Wellstone of
Minnesota and Tom Harkin of Iowa said in a letter to Clinton.

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[CTRL] Peru accepts jurisdiction of human rights court