Re: [CTRL] McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- --- Yardbird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast By Ellen Wulfhorst NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh says he always expected to be caught, convicted and executed... In prison, he became acquainted with Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, and the book contains a letter in which Kaczynski said he liked McVeigh but found the Murrah bombing "unnecessarily inhumane." Copyright © 2001 Reuters Limited. ___ BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) "While being held in a federal high-security prison, McVeigh met Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski, who told authors Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck he found McVeigh likable " ___ Nakano comments: It's interesting and perhaps more than coincidence that Ted Kaczynski, (aka the "Unabomber") and Tim McVeigh would meet and find something "likable" in each other. Ted Kaczynski was a brilliant young math and science student at Harvard when he was sucked into the dark and dangerous world of the CIA's MKULTRA mind control experiments. There is scant little information about what happened to him during that time. What is know, is that he underwent a profound personality change. After graduation, he moved on to teach at Berkley California, but he became more and more withdrawn and isolated from regular society. Finally he chose to live alone in near isolation and write about his anti-techno-society viewsand occasionally put bombs in the mail. As a young man, his life held so much promise. But something happened to that young man, something that warped him in a terrible way. Consider the early years of Tim McVeigh and his outstanding record in the U.S. Army. Then something happened. Something changed him. He family, friends, and co-workers have spoken about this in interviews. Tim went through the same sort of personality change as Ted Kaczynski. Perhaps they sensed this about each other. Perhaps that's why they became friends of a sort. My own instincts tell me these two men are both victims of very dark forces. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > --- "Stopforth, Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'll check out that book... Thanks for the > > information Michael. > > > From: michael pugliese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Eustace Mullins? PUH-LEEZE! > Wanna read something factual on the Federal Reserve > > read, "Secrets of the Temple, " by William Greider, > > Nakano comments: > WRONG! Greider's book is a cheap imitation of > Mullin's book. > Many people were coming into regular bookstores > and asking for "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" > which these stores refused to carry. > Someone saw an opportunity to write a book and > give it a sound-alike title. > I have read both books. > Greider's is a shallow whitewash that pretends to > be a serious investigation. > Whatever you may think of Eustace Mullins he is > an amazing researcher. His book is heavily footnoted > and referenced. > I don't know what all he may be doing now, I don't > keep up with his activitiesbut his book on > the Federal Reserve is the standard against which > all others are measured. It is a very solid piece > of work and I highly recommend it. > In fact, I have given away several copies over the > past 15 years. > Nakano > Very solid piece of work eh? Grieder vs Mullins and you claim that Mullins is the standard? Losing credibility buddy. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Remnants of Secret Society Pose a Mystery Across the U.S
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find info about this article. Sincerely, Neil Brick This may be heavy for survivors of abuse. Remnants of Secret Society Pose a Mystery Across the U.S. Skeletons found in old lodges of Odd Fellows - Maria Glod, Washington Post "In recent years, the discovery of Odd Fellows skeletons has sparked police investigations in Missouri, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Nebraska. In Oklahoma, the remains prompted a work crew to flee in terror." ", a longtime Odd Fellow from New York, still remembers his initiation more than 50 years ago. He hesitates to reveal too much but speaks of passwords and a skeleton that "wasn't to be seen by anybody until you take the degree." "The Independent Order of the Odd Fellows dates to 17th-century England... The first American lodge opened in Baltimore in 1819." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/30 /MN184584.DTL http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Palestinian news about infant shooting.
-Caveat Lector- Text: Voice of Palestine claims Shalhevet murdered by her mother Aaron Lerner Date: 2 April 2001 The Foreign Ministry has provided IMRA with the Hebrew version of the following excerpt from the radio commentary of senior Voice of Palestine commentator Youssef al-Kazaz, broadcast on the Palestinian Authority flagship radio station, Voice of Palestine, on 2 April 2001 at 8:39 AM: "On the matter of the baby settler who was killed in Hebron a few days ago, we already said that her death was a fishy action and there is information according to which this baby was retarded and it was her mother who killed her in order to get rid of her." Senior Voice of Palestine commentator Youssef al-Kazaz Voice of Palestine, on 2 April 2001, 8:39 AM http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Commission predicts a direct attack on the United States
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: SNET: Commission predicts a direct attack on the United States > The commission predicts a direct attack on the United States. > > Hart-Rudman Calls for Homeland Defense > > By Keith J. Costa > > The warning was nothing if not blunt. "A direct attack against American > citizens on American soil is likely over the next quarter century. The > risk > is not only death and destruction but also a demoralization that could > undermine US global leadership." > > Moreover, "in the face of this threat, our nation has no coherent or > integrated governmental structures." > > The act of guarding US territory from foreign depredations should be > made > "the primary national security mission of the United States." Preventing > or > deterring attacks against US soil or responding to them if preventive > measures fail will require a comprehensive strategy and new government > structures. > > Such was the principal conclusion of the US Commission on National > Security/21st Century, better known as the Hart-Rudman Commission after > co-chairmen Gary Hart, a former Democratic Senator from Colorado, and > Warren > Rudman, a former Republican Senator from New Hampshire. The panel was > chartered in 1998 by Defense Secretary William S. Cohen. It has now > reported > to both Cohen and to President Bush's Pentagon leader, Donald H. > Rumsfeld. > > In late January, the group issued its third and final report. The > commission > released its Phase 1 and Phase 2 reports in September 1999 and April > 2000, > respectively, setting out a threat environment over the next 25 years > and > outlining what the panel viewed as a realistic new national security > strategy. > > The Phase 3 document called for dramatic changes to the US national > security > apparatus itself, including a proposal to create a new homeland security > > agency. Titled "Road Map for National Security: Imperative for Change," > the > report built upon the group's previous work and raised stark concerns > about > US vulnerability. > > The Focal Point > > One striking recommendation: Convert the Federal Emergency Management > Agency > into a "National Homeland Security Agency." The new agency would be > chartered in law to provide a focal point for government response in > "all > natural and man-made crisis and emergency planning scenarios." > > The NHSA director would enjoy Cabinet rank, undergo Senate confirmation, > and > serve as an advisor to the National Security Council--as is the case > today > with the director of central intelligence. The panel believes the > proposed > structure would ensure that one person is accountable to the President > for > homeland defense policy-making and implementation. > > The NSC, though, would still play a role in planning and coordinating > homeland security missions involving other federal agencies like the > Defense > Department, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the > Department of Health and Human Services. > > "Through the commission's proposal for a National Homeland Security > Agency, > the US government will be able to improve the planning and coordination > of > federal support to state and local agencies, to rationalize the > allocation > of resources, to enhance readiness in order to prevent attacks, and to > facilitate recovery if prevention fails," the report stated. > > "Most important," it added, "this proposal [places] the problem of > homeland > security within the broader framework of US national security strategy. > ... > We are mindful that erecting the operational side of this strategy will > take > time." > > The report said NHSA's planning and coordination activities would be > carried > out by three components: > > *Directorate of Prevention, to oversee border-security activities. > *Directorate of Critical Infrastructure Protection, to head up the > agency's cyber-security operations. > *Directorate of Emergency Preparedness and Response, to set training > and > hardware standards, give resource grants, and promote information > sharing by > DOD, FBI, and state officials. > > The new agency would also feature a National Crisis Action Center, led > by a > two-star National Guard general, responsible for coordinating the > federal > response to crises. > > The commission said the NHSA structure, consolidating today's disparate > homeland security activities, would focus the government's attention on > preventing terrorist attacks against American citizens and critical > infrastructure. Prevention activities would include a commitment to > verifiable arms control and nonproliferation and establishing "vigilant > systems of border security and surveillance" carried out by the Border > Patrol, Customs Service, and Coast Guard, all three of which would > become > NHSA components. > > An increased number of people and a
[CTRL] MIND CONTROL, WORLD CONTROL -- chapter 5
-Caveat Lector- MIND CONTROL, WORLD CONTROL by Jim Keith, (ISBN 0-932813-45-3), Published by Adventures Unlimited Press 1997. pp. 43-51 Chapter 5--TAVISTOCK The Tavistock Institute for Human Relations, known by insiders as the "Freud Hilton," has been a major nexus for the worldwide psychological manipulation that has taken place over the last 50 years. The Tavistock story--at least the public version of it--begins immediately after World War II, when members of British military intelligence created the Institute. In its own literature Tavistock is described as an organization of "dynamic psychiatry" which was intended to practice what they term 'societry" on the planet as a whole--and what I term world mind control. British military intelligence itself, in the persons of many of its chief players, has been aimed at a one-world government since its inception. British Secret Service directors on an almost one-for-one basis have been advocates of Fabian socialism. [1] It is alleged that Tavistock was set up much earlier than its announced inception, over 20 years prior in 1921, by Major John Rawlings Reese, on the orders of the Round Table's Royal Institute of International Affairs (also known as Chatham House). The RIIA, along with the American Council on Foreign Relations, had been founded in 1919 during the Versailles Peace Conference, both being early New World Order executive arms. Reese was the man who dreamed of "building a society in which it is possible for any member of any social group to be treated [psychiatrically], without resort to legal means, and even if they do not desire such treatment." At the end of World War II, Reese called for the creation of "psychological shock troops" who would fan out from the Tavistock Institute to engineer the future direction of society. [2] In 1932 Tavistock was put under the directorship of the German psychologist Kurt Lewin. Lewin was a founder of the National Training Laboratories and director of the Harvard psychological Clinic, and--an odd qualification for a psychiatrist, I think--one of the key players in the original creation of the OSS in America. Lewin is credited with much of the original Tavistock into mass brainwashing, applying the results of repeated trauma and torture in mind control to society at large. If terror can be induced on a widespread basis into a society. Lewin has stated, then society reverts to a tabula rasa a blank slate, a situation where control can easily be instituted from an exterior point. Put it another way: By the creation of controlled chaos, the populace can be brought to the point where it willingly submits to greater control. Lewin maintained that society must be driven into a state equivalent to an "early childhood situation. He termed this societal chaos "fluidity." Tavistock's focus in the early days was on strategic warfare studies, in particular of Germany, with emphasis on the reeducation of that errant New World Order colony. During World War II many of the Institute's members, including its founder, Reese, ran the British Psychological Warfare Directorate and subsidiary organizations based in the United States. After World War II Tavistock can functionally be considered to have become a part of Britain's Psychological Warfare Bureau, now working on projects dealing with the brainwashing of populations. [3] Tavistock is governed by what it calls an invisible college, echoing antique occultist terminology and reminding one that British intelligence was founded by Freemasons and remains deeply Freemasonic to this day. The original use of the term "invisible college," prior to the announced creation of Tavistock, was Reese's reference to an informal association he had created of all the psychiatrists then working in the British military. For funding, the Tavistock Institute relies on large grants from anonymous benefactors--with no doubt a substantial portion coming directly from the Crown--along with grants from the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Institute, the World Health Organization, and the British Home Office. Tavistock is also interlinked worldwide with a vast network of other organizations and think tanks, including UNESCO, WHO, the World Federation for Mental Health, and the Rand Corporation. Tavistock is simply a front group for the psychological imp05ition of the New World Order on the planet, and its main philosophic tool is the Hegelian dialectic framed in the terms of Lewin. The Rockefellers have always been prominent in deciding the course of Tavistock. According to the official chronicler of the group, "The Rockefeller Foundation, before making us a grant, would need to be satisfied, not only by our policies.., but also with the persons to carry them out." [4] In a Tavistock-funded profile of the group, it is stated that the role of the institute has been: "(a) The invention of the command psychiatrist as a medical-social role carrying out reconnaissance
Re: [CTRL] (en) Canada, MEDIA: More than 80 arrested at Ottawa protest
-Caveat Lector- Who elected these people to do anything? Like UN and CFR etc., these self appointed dictators have set themselve on high over and above the American flag and constitution..but I keep remember this one line I read years ago - the Mafia had taken over everything BUT the government. Imagine this bunch if they get their hands on your Social Security? This is what they are afteryour tax dollars. How is it Clinton can continue to rip off the American people and not a thing is done; as it stands now, his treasonous acts in office - he should be put before a firing squad.and take Hill with him. Real 21 Gun Salute. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Bush-China monologues
http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/04/02/mcclellan/index.html The Bush-China monologues The White House takes questions: A drama in multiple acts. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jake Tapper, with White House transcripts April 2, 2001 | WASHINGTON -- The Characters: Scott McClellan, the kid-brother-like White House deputy press secretary Mary Ellen Countryman, spokesperson for the National Security Council Reporters, ravenous The Setting It's 1:35 p.m. EST in the in the James S. Brady briefing room in the White House's west wing, and the boyish White House deputy press secretary (played by the understudy, McClellan) comes before the press corps to discuss President George W. Bush's meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. But that feisty press corps instead wants to talk about something else: the fact that American diplomats had been refused permission to visit the 24 American crew members of the U.S. Navy spy plane who have been detained by Chinese officials for more than 32 hours -- not to mention reports that Chinese officials have boarded the plane. They want answers. But are they going to get them from McClellan? Does he have them, but prefer a droll game of cat-and-mouse instead? Such questions come alive in the uniquely enjoyable thrust-and-parry of the Bush White House. Act 1 "No it wasn't, Scott" (McClellan leads a discussion as to whether the U.S. plane was boarded.) McClellan: Good afternoon. I only have one announcement today. At 3:15 p.m., here in the press briefing room, a senior administration official will give a readout on the meeting between President Bush and President Mubarak. It will be a background briefing. And with that, I am happy to take questions. Reporter: Scott, does the president have a reaction to the fact that the Chinese have apparently boarded the spy plane? McClellan: I don't have any information on that. Reporter: Well, U.S. officials say it happened, so does the president not know that that's the case or -- McClellan: I'm not aware of that. Reporter: Scott, the president said further, when he talked about the matter, he referred to further tampering, which indicated that he knew something had happened. Countryman (jumping in): No, he said, "further damage." Reporter: Pardon? Countryman: He said, "further damage." Reporter: No. No. Reporter: No, he said, "further tampering." Scott, has the plane been tampered with? Or, to what extent has the plane been tampered with? McClellan: Well, I think the president's statement was very clear. Reporter: No, it wasn't, Scott. He didn't even address this. McClellan: Again, I have no information on whether or not the plane has been boarded by Chinese officials ... Reporter: I'm sorry, do you not have information about whether the plane was boarded, or does the United States not have information about whether the plane was boarded? McClellan: I do not have that information. Reporter: You're not saying it doesn't exist, you just don't have it? McClellan: I have no information to that effect. So I think I've addressed it. I think I've addressed it, though. Reporter: But you're not disputing it? McClellan: Well, I don't know where your reports are coming from. I'd refer you to State Department or the Pentagon on that. Reporter: Well, can't we get some reaction from the president on this? McClellan: Well, again, I think what he said earlier was that it's very troubling by the lack of speed in allowing us the diplomatic access to the crew. Reporter: That's not the issue, Scott. McClellan: I understand that, but I think I addressed it -- Reporter (interrupting): No, you haven't. McClellan: -- that I have no information about what you're referring to. Act 2 "You said that the president was fully engaged." (An exploration of the larger foreign policy implications) Reporter: Did the plane fly on a special mission? It was reportedly on a routine flight. McClellan: This is a routine mission over international airspace, as we indicated earlier. Reporter: Scott, in any of the conversations that the administration has had with Chinese officials, have they indicated that the Chinese response to this -- I don't want to call it a foreign policy crisis, but foreign policy challenge -- may impact the U.S. decision to sell four Arleigh Burke class destroyers to Taiwan? McClellan: I think right now the focus is on getting access to the crew. And that's the focus, and that's the issue we're focused on right now, immediate access to the crew. Reporter: Right. But in those conversations, has anybody from the administration said to the Chinese, how you respond to this, how quickly you give us access to the crew, how quickly you let the crew go may have some impact on our decision to sell these arms to Taiwan? McClellan: I'll see if I can find out more for you ... Reporter: Scott, does the United States have an obligation toward the Chinese, who was downed, reparations or apology or anything of that sort? McClellan: Well, I think the president addr
[CTRL] Back to the Cold War?
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/04/03/cold_war/index.html Back to the Cold War? As Bush rattles his saber -- and China rattles back -- tensions rise around the world. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Ben Barber April 3, 2001 | WASHINGTON -- The diplomatic furor over the American spy plane forced to land on China's Hainan Island Sunday after bumping into a Chinese warplane appears to confirm that the U.S. is drifting into a time warp that's recreating the grim old days of the Cold War. Just last month, 50 Russian diplomats were expelled from Washington for spying. Fifty U.S. diplomats got the boot in return by Moscow's president Vladimir Putin, a former KGB spy master. Days earlier, Bush administration officials called North Korea's bizarre Stalinist leader Kim Jong-il nasty names and threatened to break a 1994 nuclear pact with that country. Nor has George W. Bush spared his allies, pushing them to swallow the National Missile Defense system which Europe detests as unnecessary, expensive and destabilizing. And less than a week ago, Europe was shocked by Bush's withdrawing the U.S. from negotiations over the Kyoto protocol on climate change -- a move that had little to do with defense policy, of course, but one that foreign leaders have widely perceived as a throwback to a unilateral, Cold War superpower approach to global problems. So far no one is sure what's going on. Are the conservative advisors to the inexperienced president trapped in the rhetoric of the past? Are they seeking to advance what they see as America's national interests by taking tough stands that seemed to work during the Reagan years, the Cuban missile crisis or perhaps old westerns like "High Noon?" Or is this simply a new team finding its way over some bumps in the road -- such as the legacy of genuine Russian spies, an intense Chinese fear of U.S. hegemony and North Korea's habit of nuclear blackmail? Critics blame a backward-looking Bush team. "The Bush administration comes to power with visions of a world akin to that when the Cold War was still going," says former senior Clinton White House policy official Ivo Daalder, now at the Brookings Institution. "They see a world divided into black and white, good and evil. The bad countries are led by despotic, evil or confused people. Russia is led by spies, China by communists, North Korea by a despotic dictator. They believe you have to deal with these people firmly. No pussyfooting. Stand up, respectful but firm." Other analysts agree that the spy plane impasse is more worrisome against the backdrop of Bush rhetoric about China. "The actual interdicting of U.S. aircraft by the Chinese goes on all the time; it has been for decades, but the current heightened tension began after Bush became president," says Rodger Baker, a senior analyst for Stratfor.com. "Bush's team has labeled China as a particular area of concern for Asia, and U.S. leaks of what our new foreign policy and military posture will look like have heightened tensions." Still, there's no evidence in this specific instance that saber-rattling will take precedence over problem-solving as the Bush team tries to get the plane's crew back safely and resolve the incident. "I certainly don't think we're entering a new Cold War," says a senior State Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "You have a moment where the new administration has not fully formed its ability to carry out our own policy and let us put our own stamp on things. To some extent, we've got to deal with things as they happen. Some are difficult, like the plane thing in China or the spy scandal with Russia. "Don't think it's the entire policy. If people give it a couple of months they will see a more rounded and more positive policy. There is a desire not to reenter Cold War scenarios." With or without a Cold War mentality, the United States has enemies and rivals, if not for strategic preeminence then for power and influence and wealth in the smaller theaters of the world. France covets its control over former colonies in West Africa; Russia wants to keep NATO from expanding eastward into the Baltics; India bristles at any outside rival within South Asia; Iran and Islamic terrorists oppose any Western presence in the Persian Gulf region. But those sizable tensions don't explain the seismic shift between the Bush foreign policy of the campaign trail and the statements made by the White House since President Bush took office. During the campaign, Bush promised a "humble" foreign policy which would not humiliate the less powerful nations of the world -- that is, all of the rest of them. The talk was comforting -- until Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice seized control of the dais, and pushed Secretary of State Colin Powell aside. Now, they say, U.S. policy will be based on "national interest," and there's much less talk about humility than during the campaign -- in fact, there's none. The latest mo
[CTRL] W's Brave Old World
http://www.consortiumnews.com/040301a.html W's Brave Old World By Sam Parry April 3, 2001 New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd – who made endless fun of Al Gore for his earth-tone sweaters, his Palm Pilot and his connection to the book style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Love Story – isn't one for making apologies. But she's come close to admitting that her election-year ridicule of Gore might have helped put a dimwitted reactionary in the White House. “Forgive me, Al Gore,” Dowd wrote in a column on Bush’s drive to turn back the clock on the environment and foreign policy. “I’m going hungry for a shred of modernity.” [NYT, April 1, 2001] With her second thoughts about making a mockery of Al Gore and his interest in the future, Dowd might not be alone. As George W. Bush and his elders chart a course for the United States back to the black-and-white days of the Cold War and to an era when corporate chieftains knew best, many Americans might be wondering why they voted for this guy. Did they really want Bush to weaken the protections against arsenic in drinking water or to cut the budget of the Environmental Protection Agency? Did they vote for him to eliminate new ergonomic or repetitive-stress standards in work places? Did they expect him to talk down the economy to build support for his $1.6 trillion tax cut? Did anyone out there vote for him so he could nominate a former Iran-contra figure – Otto Reich – to head the State Department’s Latin American office? Did they expect that he would irk close allies on issues from missile defense to global warming? Did voters want him to block negotiations with the North Koreans -- over the protests of the South Koreans -- and to stoke up the tensions with China and Russia? For someone who lost the national popular vote by more than a half million votes and was handed the Oval Office by five political allies on the U.S. Supreme Court, Bush seems oblivious to his fragile claim on legitimacy. Instead, he is acting like a man with radical right-wing mandate. 'Suckers' In pursuing this agenda, Bush also has shown contempt for voters who supported him believing he was a "compassionate conservative" who would replace Washington's partisanship with cooperation. Within his first 100 days, Bush has dropped all pretense of governing from the center, effectively calling those who believed he would "suckers." style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">The Wall Street Journal’s ultra-conservative editorial page openly praised Bush for building an administration that is to the right of Ronald Reagan’s. Bush’s early moves and appointments have made his more extreme right-wing base giddy. Paul Weyrich, a prominent conservative who two years ago wrote a despondent public letter to fellow conservatives in which he stated his view “that politics itself has failed” and that conservatives have “lost the culture war,” is now gushing over Bush’s early decisions. Weyrich told the Washington Post that Bush’s attention to the right wing has eclipsed Reagan’s and has been “something that I've never experienced before.” [WP, March 25, 2001] While Bush's right-wing supporters are experiencing a revival of mind and spirit, his political spokesmen are spinning the press away from the notion that Bush snookered the public with his talk of bipartisan moderation. The administration's new line is that conservative appointments and policies should come as no surprise given the fact that Bush is himself a conservative. During the 2000 race, however, Bush didn’t run as a conservative, but as a likable, affable, moderate whose contradictions drew little attention from the national press. Many political analysts believe that Bush outmaneuvered Gore for the political center as Bush's stump speeches blasted Gore as a big-government liberal, a message that resonated with many voters. Bush's political strategy worked so well that in spite of Bush's conservative moves as president, polls show many Americans still are expecting him to show his political centrism. Yet, Bush’s rightward march on the environment has irked other prominent Republicans. As reported in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Republican President Theodore Roosevelt’s granddaughter, Edith Williams, is “fighting mad … about what Bush is doing to the environment and to the environmental legacy of the Republican Party.” Williams told columnist Joel Connelly, “I'm desperately disappointed. ... I am deeply distressed at this administration.” [Seattle Post-Intelligencer, March 28, 2001] In the first two months of the Bush administration, two prominent moderate Republican administration officials, Secretary of State Colin Powell and EPA Administrator Christie Whitman, have stood by loyally as their boss undercut their public positions to please his right wing-base. Powell was embarrassed on Iraq and North Korea. Whitman had the rug pulled out from under her on carbon dioxide emission
[CTRL] (en) Canada, MEDIA: More than 80 arrested at Ottawa protest
-Caveat Lector- A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ More than 80 arrested at Ottawa protest WebPosted Mon Apr 2 19:40:24 2001 OTTAWA-- Police arrested 87 anti-globalization activists during a noisy but peaceful protest in front of the Foreign Affairs building in Ottawa Monday. About 450 people waved banners and sang songs to demand the government take action. BACKGROUND: Trade talks: The Summit of the Americas The demonstrators were arrested after they came forward in pairs to read statements out loud, before climbing over barricades to sit on the building's grounds. One by one they were dragged away by police. They want the government to release the draft text of the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas agreement in advance of this month's summit in Quebec City. International Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew said Canada can't release the details unilaterally because there are 34 countries involved. But he said the government has released what it can so far. "This is the most transparent international trade negotiation we've ever had," he told CBC Newsworld. Foreign Affairs has closed the building for the day and told staff to stay home. Protesters say the government must make sure that environment and labour rules as well as human rights and democracy are respected in any new accord. ** The A-Infos News Service ** News about and of interest to anarchists ** COMMANDS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] REPLIES: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ainfos.ca/ INFO: http://www.ainfos.ca/org __ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness & Universe Exopolitics. Vancouver, BC V6M 1V8 EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Canada Calls on U.S. to Stick With Kyoto Accord
-Caveat Lector- Canada Calls on U.S. to Stick With Kyoto Accord OTTAWA (Reuters) - Prime Minister Jean Chretien called on the United States on Tuesday to stick with the Kyoto accord to combat global warming, and reiterated Canada's intention to honor its commitment to cut greenhouse gases. "We think we have to continue with Kyoto and we think the Americans should do the same," Chretien told reporters after a weekly cabinet meeting. The White House last week announced an end to U.S. support for the 1997 Kyoto pact, which calls for the reduction of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions to try to lessen further warming of the world's climate. "I'm disappointed by it (the U.S. decision). We intend to respect our commitment," Chretien said, speaking in French. He noted Canada's position that any international agreement needed to give industrialized countries credit for carbon dioxide absorbed by forests and farmland. He said Canada also wants credits for selling to other countries energy or energy projects such as nuclear power or natural gas, which produce fewer emissions than fuels like coal or oil. But his stance on the United States appeared to go further than that of his environment minister, David Anderson, who last week blamed the Kyoto treaty's troubles largely on the European Union, which strongly resists allowing the sort of emissions credits that Canada and the United States seek. Canada agreed at Kyoto to cut its greenhouse gas emissions to 6 percent below 1990 levels. But as of 1998 its emissions were 13 percent above the 1990 figures. __ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness & Universe Exopolitics. Vancouver, BC V6M 1V8 EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [ParanoidTimes] New tools hatch for sniffing out Web bugs
-Caveat Lector- thanks. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Anti-Gravity Fighter Disc - LockHeed X-22A
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:21 AM Subject: Anti-Gravity Fighter Disc - LockHeed X-22A LOCKHEED X-22A ANTI-GRAVITY FIGHTER DISC By Simon Gray Information has come into the public's attention which suggests that Lockheed has been working in the "black" on a discoid-shaped aircraft. Not only does this aircraft utilise anti-gravitic propulsion, but the discs are believed to be equipped with highly advanced particle beam weaponry. Lockheed does hold the patents on disc-shaped passenger aicraft, so it is not unreasonable to assume they have also (successfully) investigated the possibility of creating such craft as military platforms. Colonel Steve Wilson, USAF (deceased) stated that black military astronauts trained at a secret aerospace academy and later would operate out of Beale and Vandenberg Air Force Bases in California. >From those bases, these military astronauts regularly fly trans- atmospherically and out into space. One of the aerospace craft they use, Colonel Wilson reported, is the X-22A, Lockheed's two-man anti-gravity disc craft. Evidence for the existence of the X-22A first came to light during Operation Desert Storm when American soldiers (and most likely Iraqi soldiers as well) made sightings of disc-shaped craft in the desert hovering near to U.S. officers. People also made claims of seeing these craft fire intense beams of light that removed any trace of what previously sat at the location, apart from a circular charcoal-like burn mark on the ground. A Desert Storm soldier stated the following: "In the first days film footage and especially Video-cams which a large number of G.I.s had were impounded so they wouldn`t capture any sensitive material." Dr. Richard Boylan states the following about the X-22A: "The described disc was clearly an antigravity levitating aerial weapons platform in the U.S. arsenal, possibly a Lockheed X-22A two-man discoid craft, the real DarkStar, (of which the unmanned drone X-22 DarkStar is a front "cover" aircraft program to disguise this manned antigravity fighter disc.) Further, it appears that the real DarkStar manned discs come equipped with the latest Neutral Particle Beam weapons, which take apart the target at the molecular level. ET craft do not incinerate humans. Only human military fighters are so deployed. So this report does not deal with any extraterrestrial event. It has been said that if the American people knew what the military had in their arsenal today, they wouldn't believe it, and would think someone was fantasizing about a Lucas Star Wars movie episode." Dr. Richard Boylan: "You're saying that the Lockheed X-22A antigravity fighter disc fleet, equipped with Neutral Particle Beam directed-energy weapons, and capable of effecting optical as well as radar invisibility, is deployed for worldwide military operations from the new U.S. Space Warfare Headquarters, located in hardened underground facilities beneath 13,528' King's Peak in the High Uintas Primitive (Wilderness) Area of the Wasatch Mountains, 80 miles east of Salt Lake City?" NSA Informant: "Yeah, man!" Article From Above Top Secret Web Site At; "http://www.abovetopsecret.com/fighterdisc.html" http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FC: Forget geeks: Pew survey says most Americans like Carnivore (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well his is what you call "molding" public opinion; for one thing, see who was behind this so called "survey". Some people say they would not object to having their medical files invaded by anybody for profit? Some do not mind profitting from the sale of baby body parts? Has anyone ever really taken a look at this? RecentIy looked up my contract with WEB TV as I was having problems; and read if. In part they do not claim any responsibility for eavesdroppers on the web, which they claim exist. So proves one thing - only thing standing between what they now promote is a court order? So if something like this would happen it willnot take long for the hackers (you know the ones they tried to blame for stealing nuclear secrets wihch Clinton gave away).but hackers and a bunch of smart kids can return the favors - you spy on me, I spy on you for equal protection of the laws give me the right. Nothing secret or confidential should ever be sent in the mail or put on the web unless coded.now with a KGB Agent sitting in the FBI headquarters for 16 years unobserved - you mean they are really concerned about taxpayers e mail - especially when they have had Henry Kissinger at the public trough all these years - KGB Agent Code Name Bor - and the President's telephone tapped through Lewinsky's - for the Mossad? Who would profit by this system? What we have the makings of another Admiral Crowe? One thing for sure there would be libraries all over this country invaded by pranksers sending out phonoey e mail bombs or something. The more our government promotes crap like this - well they should be investigating themselves i.e., who placed the bombs in the Murrah Building and was it inside job? These people are unbelievable. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FC: Forget geeks: Pew survey says most Americans like Carnivore (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Apr 2001, at 12:17, Yardbird wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Monday, the Pew Internet & American Life Project released a survey on > public attitudes in regard to online crime & governmental attempts to > combat it. > > http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=32 > > Methodology (unlike the implications of the results) looks acceptable. > > >From the summary: > > "Some 54% of Americans approve of the idea of FBI monitoring of suspects' > email, while 34% disapprove." I would be willing to bet a doughnut that very few of those approving realize that we are all "suspects" in the eyes of Big Brother. -- Best wishes Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. -- George Washington http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FC: Jim Bell trial starts today in Tacoma, Washington (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Jim Bell's trial begins in about one hour here in lovely downtown Tacoma. Bell is best known for being the author of "Assassination Politics," but he is charged with stalking federal agents. He says, and a good number of observers agree, that the Feds are prosecuting him for doing what an investigative reporter does: Compiling information from publicly available databases, documenting what's happening, and so on. This case could set a precedent that affects the First Amendment privilege of journalists. You can find his recent motions here: http://cryptome.org/jdb032801.htm#filings Original complaint: http://cryptome.org/jdb111700.htm Photo of Jim Bell: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/9/jim-bell-2.html Still unclear is who will be representing Bell. Bell has tried for months to fire his court-appointed attorney, saying his attorney has been so negligent in filing motions that Bell's case has been damaged beyond repair. So the judge will have to decide whether Bell or Bell's attorney, Robert Leen, will be conducting his defense. U.S. District Judge Jack Tanner also will rule on my motion to quash my subpoena from the Department of Justice. He has the option of (1) saying I don't need to take the stand, (2) limiting my testimony to only what's in my published articles, (3) allowing both sides to ask me any questions, including about unpublished information. My motion to quash subpoena: http://www.mccullagh.org/subpoena/ -Declan - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Comments on America
-Caveat Lector- Augustin Cebada (Head of the Brown Berets, a Hispanic activist organization at a July 4, 1996 rally) "We're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children . . . we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around." Augustin Cebada "Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. . . ." [Quoted in Barbara Coe, Reconquista, The Takeover of America, California Coalition for Immigration Reform, 1998, p. 20.] Art Torres (former chairman, California Democratic Party) "Remember, [Proposition] 187 [the measure to cut public benefits to illegal aliens] is the last gasp of white America." [The Social Contact, Summer 1998, p. 290.] Prof. Jose Angel Gutierrez (University of Texas, Arlington) "We have an aging white America. They are dying. They are shitting in their pants with fear! . . . I love it!" [Speech of Jan. 1995, quoted in Coe, Reconquista, p. 16.] Mario Obledo (1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient and former head of Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund MALDEF) "California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don't like it they should leave." [Tom Leykis Radio Show, June 7, 1998.] http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: GOP News & Views - April 3, 2001
To unsubscribe send "leave chuckmuth" in body of message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or hit reply with "remove" in subject or go to http://www.incor.com/l10003/newsletter.htm to remove X-ListMember: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *** Tales From the Left Side Welcome to the good, the bad and the ugly of American politics. Liberal excesses, conservative successes. Clowns on the left; jokers to the right. Catch em all right here in GOP News & Views ... a daily Internet e-newsletter for Republican activists, supporters, political leaders and elected officials. If you know someone who does not receive our FREE GOP News & Views briefings, send their e-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Babs Skewers Bush We have a President who stole the presidency through family ties, arrogance and intimidation, employing Republican operatives to exercise the tactics of voter fraud by disenfranchising thousands of blacks, elderly Jews and other minorities. ... Look at his ratings - how could such a destructive man be so popular with the American people? Not only is he poisoning our air and water by withdrawing his promise to enforce emissions standards and arsenic regulations, but he's poisoning our political system as well. Bipartisanship only works if you can trust the other side. As we have learned in the past weeks, we cannot trust George W. Bush." - Limousine-liberal and Clinton groupie Barbra Steisand in a blistering memo to Democrat leaders whining about them not doing more to oppose President Bush and Republicans, The Drudge Report, 4/2/01 *** The Incumbent Protection Act of 2001 From its inception, the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill has been about imposing rigid government controls over election campaigns, independent political activity and free speech. This is not just a very bad bill. It is a dangerous bill, one that would rob us of our political freedoms under the guise of reform. At its very core, it is an incumbent-protection bill that would keep certain advocacy groups, labor unions and for-profit corporations out of the most critical period of an election by banning their campaign ads, if they mention a candidate for federal office, in the last two months of an election. And that´s just for starters. ... The late Sen. Barry Goldwater, that principled defender of our freedoms whose seat Mr. McCain now holds, must be rolling in his grave. - Columnist Donald Lambro *** Coming Soon: McCains Plague of Pests The campaign finance reform measure poised to pass the Senate today aims to curb something Americans often lament: the influence of big money in politics. But it will almost certainly worsen an affliction they complain about even more: the proliferation of junk mail, dinner-time phone calls and e-mail spam from parties and candidates seeking donations. ... (I)f the bill becomes law, every campaign and party official in the country is going to set his or her sights on the only source of funds left: the four- and five-figure checks to parties and candidates that individuals will still be able to write. Virtually all of that money comes in response to mail or phone solicitations, meaning the most tangible consequence of campaign finance reform for millions of Americans is likely to be increased pestering. - Los Angeles Times, 4/2/01 Reagan vs. Johnson Columnist E.J. Dionne has joined the chorus of those who think there are too many buildings and public works being named in honor of Ronald Reagan. He recently proclaimed that the nation should celebrate only those presidents whose achievements transcend ideology. He wonders, though, why Americans so unappreciate presidents like (hyper-ideologue) Lyndon Johnson. The answer is simple. Mr. Reagan´s ideas worked. Johnson´s didn´t. - Columnist Alvin Felzenberg *** Reinventing Amerika He was alive for barely two years of the Clinton administration, but somehow in the new book The Irrepressible Rothbard the late Libertarian economist Murray N. Rothbard nails the previous decade from the first page to the last, as reflected in this preview of Mr. Rothbard's essays: In the 1990s, the culture became a tool of coercion. Using affirmative action, discriminatory taxation, hate-crime laws, bribes to states and localities, selective investigations, military adventures, and armed federal cops, the Clinton administration was doing far more than interfering in the economy. It was attempting to reconstruct American life. " - John McCaslins Inside the Beltway, 4/2/01 ** Selective Ferocity For the past six weeks, Mary Jo White, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, has been in control of the investigation into the questionable pardons and commutations that Bill Clinton approved on his last day in office. That´s bad news for Mr. Clinton, a
Re: [CTRL] "No Whites Need Apply" (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >If it was the other way around, he most definitely would be referred to as a racist. And in all likelihood this article would never have been written. The right only groans when it's their ox who's getting gored. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [news] W's Brave Old World
consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- As George W. Bush dials the clock back to the black-and-white days of the Cold War -- when corporate chieftains knew best and real men didn't give a hoot about the environment -- even some of Al Gore's worst critics are having second thoughts. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, who made endless fun of Gore's earth-tone sweaters, went so far as ask his forgiveness. But what did the American people get in this unelected president? And what's the real explanation for Bush's radical right-wing agenda? For a story looking at W's Brave Old World, go to Consortiumnews.com at http://www.consortiumnews.com __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] "No Whites Need Apply" (fwd)
Title: RE: [CTRL] "No Whites Need Apply" (fwd) If it was the other way around, he most definitely would be referred to as a racist. And Jesse Jackson would hop off of his latest mistress, get dressed and make his way to the location of racial lawfirm using blackmail to get what he wants just as he's done in the past. Jamie -Original Message- From: Yardbird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] "No Whites Need Apply" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Civil Wrongs By Mark Trapp FrontpageMagazine.com | March 30, 2001 URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/archives/racerelations/trapp03-30-01.htm JUDGE THERESA CISNEROS of Colorado's Fourth District has a nifty new way to increase "diversity" among her summer clerks: only African-American law students are allowed to apply. Judge Cisneros, in conjunction with the El Paso County (CO) Bar Association Diversity Committee and the Sachs Foundation, has approved two summer judicial clerkships limited solely to black law students. Indeed, the advertisement for the positions states that "you must be African American." Only if you meet this "requirement" may you contact Judge Cisneros for an application to "study and learn with experienced judges in the 4th Judicial District in Colorado Springs, Co." Apparently, the Sachs Foundation is supplying the $18,486 to pay for these two clerkships. According to its website, the Sachs Foundation "was incorporated as a Colorado, non-profit corporation in 1931 and since that time has helped over 6,670 black Colorado residents obtain a college education." The group provides grants to about 250 black students per year. Interestingly the Sachs Foundation has various ways of determining whether an applicant is truly an African American. Their website states that the group considers "a person to be an African-American if they are a member of the African-American race. Applicants with mixed racial and ethnic backgrounds must demonstrate their racial identity to be predominantly African-American and the Trustees will interview and make a determination as to qualification in those cases which are uncertain. Information as to philosophy, commitment to the African-American race and self-identity may also be considered in such cases." Wow. Commitment to the African-American race? Philosophy? Apparently, for this group, one's race can be determined by their ideology. Just how does one demonstrate their "commitment to the African American race?" By dating a black person? By voting a certain way? By wearing a Malcolm X t-shirt? Who would have thought that a sitting judge could be so ignorant as to entangle herself, her court and her county in such a blatantly racist and illegal scheme? To illustrate how outrageous this is, imagine the following: A sitting judge, in, say, Birmingham, Alabama advertises for two summer clerkships in his court, and states in the ad that the applicant "must be white." Imagine further that the clerkships are to be sponsored and paid for by an Alabama non-profit corporation which provides money solely to "white" students. Next, imagine that in "uncertain cases", this non-profit group determines who is "white" by reference to their "philosophy" and their "commitment to the white race." Sounds like something straight out of a KKK recruitment brochure, doesn't it? Can you imagine the pandemonium such a state of affairs would cause? Jesse Jackson and his mistress - oops - I mean minions would descend on this judge so fast his head would spin. Al Sharpton would be comparing this judge to David Duke, and the NAACP, the ACLU and Johnnie Cochran would be filing a lawsuit faster than you could say "Orenthal James Simpson." And they would be right in doing so. But don't expect the same reaction when the shoe is on the other foot. After all, America's new commandment, "Thou shalt be diverse" is at stake. The strangest part of all of this is the blatant lack of knowledge shown by Judge Cisneros. Apparently, she has never heard of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It doesn't take much of an education to figure out that limiting the applicants for these government jobs solely to African Americans blatantly violates this law. You would expect a judge to know this. You would also expect that at least one of the lawyers in the El Paso County Bar Association would have realized the legal and political problems with these race-based clerkships, and not allowed their group to sponsor them. However, according to the group's website, the chairperson of the Association's "diversity committee" is - you guessed it - Judge Cisneros. Surprise, surprise. The very idea that a judge and indeed, an entire county's bar association would allow this ad to pass unnoticed demonstrates how screwed-up our society has become in matters dealing with race. Ca
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun
-Caveat Lector- >Actually, my husband said it's because I spend too much time on the >Internet. But I think he's being sarcastic.. after all, he wants to >know: why is it, if they charge dues, do they call it FREE Masonry? > The same reason you call the person you entrust your savings to your 'broker'. It's obviously a Satanic black magic backwards-linguistics they're using to perpetuate mass mind control. Or maybe just irony. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FC: Forget geeks: Pew survey says most Americans like Carnivore (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Monday, the Pew Internet & American Life Project released a survey on public attitudes in regard to online crime & governmental attempts to combat it. http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=32 Methodology (unlike the implications of the results) looks acceptable. >From the summary: "Some 54% of Americans approve of the idea of FBI monitoring of suspects' email, while 34% disapprove." "Among the relatively small number of Americans (21%) who have heard about the FBI's email sniffing program called "Carnivore" or "DCS1000," there is much more evenly divided opinion. Forty-five percent of people who have heard of it say Carnivore is good because it will allow the FBI a new way of tracking down criminals. Another 45% say Carnivore is bad because it could be used to read emails to and from ordinary citizens." Ethan Ethan Ackerman Senior Research Fellow, Center for Law, Commerce & Technology University of Washington School of Law 1100 NE Campus Parkway Seattle, WA 98105 Tel: 206.440.0853/Fax: 206.616.3427 http://www.law.washington.edu/lct/ - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Clinton's Chinagate Chickens Come Home to Roost
-Caveat Lector- China is still Red China and the communists are our enemy..when Chinese Chickens come home to roost - watch outlay bigge eggs than Oklahoma chickens. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] "No Whites Need Apply" (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Civil Wrongs By Mark Trapp FrontpageMagazine.com | March 30, 2001 URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/archives/racerelations/trapp03-30-01.htm JUDGE THERESA CISNEROS of Colorado's Fourth District has a nifty new way to increase "diversity" among her summer clerks: only African-American law students are allowed to apply. Judge Cisneros, in conjunction with the El Paso County (CO) Bar Association Diversity Committee and the Sachs Foundation, has approved two summer judicial clerkships limited solely to black law students. Indeed, the advertisement for the positions states that "you must be African American." Only if you meet this "requirement" may you contact Judge Cisneros for an application to "study and learn with experienced judges in the 4th Judicial District in Colorado Springs, Co." Apparently, the Sachs Foundation is supplying the $18,486 to pay for these two clerkships. According to its website, the Sachs Foundation "was incorporated as a Colorado, non-profit corporation in 1931 and since that time has helped over 6,670 black Colorado residents obtain a college education." The group provides grants to about 250 black students per year. Interestingly the Sachs Foundation has various ways of determining whether an applicant is truly an African American. Their website states that the group considers "a person to be an African-American if they are a member of the African-American race. Applicants with mixed racial and ethnic backgrounds must demonstrate their racial identity to be predominantly African-American and the Trustees will interview and make a determination as to qualification in those cases which are uncertain. Information as to philosophy, commitment to the African-American race and self-identity may also be considered in such cases." Wow. Commitment to the African-American race? Philosophy? Apparently, for this group, one's race can be determined by their ideology. Just how does one demonstrate their "commitment to the African American race?" By dating a black person? By voting a certain way? By wearing a Malcolm X t-shirt? Who would have thought that a sitting judge could be so ignorant as to entangle herself, her court and her county in such a blatantly racist and illegal scheme? To illustrate how outrageous this is, imagine the following: A sitting judge, in, say, Birmingham, Alabama advertises for two summer clerkships in his court, and states in the ad that the applicant "must be white." Imagine further that the clerkships are to be sponsored and paid for by an Alabama non-profit corporation which provides money solely to "white" students. Next, imagine that in "uncertain cases", this non-profit group determines who is "white" by reference to their "philosophy" and their "commitment to the white race." Sounds like something straight out of a KKK recruitment brochure, doesn't it? Can you imagine the pandemonium such a state of affairs would cause? Jesse Jackson and his mistress - oops - I mean minions would descend on this judge so fast his head would spin. Al Sharpton would be comparing this judge to David Duke, and the NAACP, the ACLU and Johnnie Cochran would be filing a lawsuit faster than you could say "Orenthal James Simpson." And they would be right in doing so. But don't expect the same reaction when the shoe is on the other foot. After all, America's new commandment, "Thou shalt be diverse" is at stake. The strangest part of all of this is the blatant lack of knowledge shown by Judge Cisneros. Apparently, she has never heard of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It doesn't take much of an education to figure out that limiting the applicants for these government jobs solely to African Americans blatantly violates this law. You would expect a judge to know this. You would also expect that at least one of the lawyers in the El Paso County Bar Association would have realized the legal and political problems with these race-based clerkships, and not allowed their group to sponsor them. However, according to the group's website, the chairperson of the Association's "diversity committee" is - you guessed it - Judge Cisneros. Surprise, surprise. The very idea that a judge and indeed, an entire county's bar association would allow this ad to pass unnoticed demonstrates how screwed-up our society has become in matters dealing with race. Can there be any doubt that if the ad limited applications solely to whites that someone would have objected? Certainly, Judge Cisneros would never become involved in anything so obviously racist. Surely the bar association would have objected. And yet, an ad stating that to apply for the job "you must be African American" apparently met with both the judge's and the bar association's approval. Martin Luther King, Jr. once stated "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- Might do well to remember that Charles Lindberg a National Hero who had his baby kidnapped and murdered, was labeled a NAZI for taking on this system. And further this Anti Defamation League - it sure looks right now, formed also in 1913 and anyone who opposed the Federal Reserve System has been labeled by this pile of crap as Nazisput on hate lists by FBI based on the word of these hoodlums - note this bribe they took from Marc Rich in order to bribe the President of the United States? So who finaced WWI and WWII and cui bono. Why has this ADL been permited to put Militias, Christians, and Islam Moslems on hate lists and hit lists? Boy Americans were sure suckered in on this Federal Reserve who are nothing more than big time pawn brokers? The enemy has been withing for a long, long time..and militias and any Christian groups should sue this ADL for all it is worth - as Dees does of this so called Southern Poverty Stricken Law Center who is now worth over 100 million? Time to take out country back...open the flood gates. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jews and Mexicans on Collision Course (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- LA VOZ DE AZTLAN EDITORIAL http://www.aztlan.net/razajews.htm La Raza and Jews on Collision Course in Alta California There are now significant signs of an impending collision between La Raza and Jews in California. The signs were first manifested during the state's 1998 election primary when a Mexicano defeated the Jewish candidate Richard Katz in the state's 20th Senate District and when the wealthy Jew, Ron Unz, was successful in having an anti-bilingual education initiative approved by the state's electorate. The battle lines between Mexicanos and Jews in California have been drawn and they have been drawn most clearly in the City of Los Angeles. La Raza's battle for the 20th Senate District is a perfect example of how the Jews will fight tooth and nail to maintain their dominance in state government. The victorious battle by La Raza in the 20th S.D., which is located in the middle of the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles, was only a small skirmish of a larger battle that is about to occur as we seek more equitable proportional representation in state and local governments. The Jews of California, about 3% of the state's population, have an overwhelming and disproportionate share of the state's wealth which they utilize effectively to wield immense influence on the state's political apparatus principally through dominance of the Democratic Party. Both U.S Senators of the state are ladies of Jewish descent and there is no sector of California society, either private or public, in which Jews are not significant policy makers. Whatever sector they can not control directly, they will do it indirectly through the purchase of influence and through cunning manipulation of ethnic and other minorities. La Raza's victory in the 20th Senate District has been a turning point in the relationship between Mexicanos and Jews. It was the very first time that a significant clash for political control, at the state level, has taken place between the two ethnic groups. Political representation in Los Angeles County is presently determined along racial and ethnic lines. For example, the Congressional Delegation of the county is presently divided between Mexicanos, Afro-Americans, Jews and Whites. There are four Congresspersons of Mexican descent (Becerra, Solis, Roybal, Napolitano) , three of African descent, two of Jewish descent (Waxman, Berman) and the rest are Whites. They each represent districts where the majority of the population are of the same racial or ethnic group as they are. The same is true with state assembly and state senate districts. The 20th Senate District was one in transition where Mexicanos were at the time barely outnumbering Jews. The race became wide open when Herschel Rosenthall, a Jew, could not run for re-election because of term limits. A very popular Mexicano by the name of Richard Alarcon, then a Los Angeles City Councilman, decided to challenge the Jewish domination of the senate district by declaring himself a candidate against the Jew Richard Katz . He won by a mere 29 votes but the bloody battle between the Jews and La Raza left a bitter aftermath that has had negative repercussions to this day. The Jews are sore losers and they did not take the defeat graciously. They insinuated that Mexicans were racists and anti-semitic simply because we challenged them and beat them politically. They criticized Senator Richard Alarcon because he publicized, during his campaign, a very nice picture of himself and Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahoney. . . never mind that various Jewish publications in Los Angeles campaigned and had photographs of Richard Katz wearing Jewish kippahs while praying at Jewish synagogues. The battle for the 20th Senate District in California should provide a very valuable lesson for La Raza. In our political struggle for self-determination, we can not assume the certain groups will be our friends. Jews have catered for our vote in the past but when it comes our turn to share in real political power, they will turn their face and become our enemies. Since they are actually a very small percentage of the overall population, they are forced to utilize strategies, other than mere numbers to maintain control. A principal strategy is to utilize their vast supply of funds to manipulate the political system as they are presently doing in the race for mayor of Los Angeles. They are very adapt at manipulating the varied political interests as well as the interests of racial, ethnic and sexual preference minorities. They have formed alliances with, for example, the Black community in order to put in check the rightful political emergence of La Raza as they did when a Jew/Black coalition elected Tom Bradley, the first Black mayor of Los Angeles. Later they formed an alliance with Republicans to elect Richard Riordan as the mayor. Jews are very good at formimg alliances with anyone as long it serves their interests . They play all sides of a fence, this way the
[CTRL] Straight Pride
-Caveat Lector- Student Sues School Over Ban of 'Straight Pride' Sweatshirt by Melanie Hunter 03 Apr, 2001 (CNSNews.com) - A St. Paul, Minn., teenager is suing his high school after school officials told him his sweatshirt, with the trademark logo ... Go to http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200104\CUL20010403a.html to view the full story. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- Worldnetdaily are pushing a lengthy investigative piece in their magazine. Info below. Gavin. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22016 Coup d'état in 1913 © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Few Americans realize how radically America was changed in 1913 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act. Maybe most Americans don't even care. "How does the Federal Reserve Board affect my life?" they think. "What do I know from Alan Greenspan? He's the guy who decides what interest rates are, right?" The truth is the Federal Reserve, created in 1913, is a wholly unaccountable, private institution that affects the lives of every American -- probably more directly and profoundly than does the president of the United States. That's why Greenspan is often referred to as the most powerful man in America. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was an attempt to take advantage of popular opinion in the United States for banking reforms. In effect, however, it was not reform at all. It was a power transfer -- a coup in which a small group of bankers got a blank check to set monetary policy, and, thus, all policy, for the entire nation. No watchdogs. No guardrails. No accountability. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Perhaps Rep. Charles A. Lindberg Sr. said it best at the time: "It is common practice of congressmen to make the title of acts promise a right, but in the body or text of the acts to rob the people of what is promised in the title." The very name "Federal Reserve Bank" was designed to deceive. It is not federal. It is not a government agency. It is privately owned. In short, it is nothing more than a group of private banks charging interest on money that never actually existed. "Oh, Farah," you're probably saying right now. "Whoa, fella. This is too much for me to absorb. Are you sure about this? This sounds like conspiracy stuff? Why isn't anyone talking about something so amazing?" Well, the good news is that WorldNetDaily.com is about to launch a major salvo to wake up Americans about who really owns their country -- or, at least, who acts like they own it. In the current issue of WorldNet magazine, being mailed to subscribers this week, an expert on the subject of the Fed and a top-notch journalist, Anne Williamson, will break the bad news in clear, understandable, accessible terms that even your child in high school will be able to comprehend. Williamson has written for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Spy magazine, Film Comment and Premiere. An expert on Soviet-Russian affairs, she is currently working on a book, "Contagion: The Betrayal of Liberty; Russia and the United States in the 1990s." She has so much expertise on Russia, the Fed and the International Monetary Fund that she has been asked to testify to Congress, so that those ladies and gentlemen can get a better understanding of the institutions Williamson has covered most of her adult life. Her exhaustive report in WorldNet will be promoted in TV and radio appearances this week. Don't miss them. And don't miss her report in the magazine. If you are not yet subscribing, order it right now. This may be America's last best chance to learn who is pulling our strings. In a nutshell, here's how this Fed scheme works, ladies and gentlemen. Are you sitting down? Are you ready for this? The government prints $100 billion in interest-bearing U.S. bonds and takes them to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve places the $100 billion in a checking account and the government writes checks against the balance. In other words, we -- the American people -- allow this private banking system to create money out of thin air. And the bankers get interest on it -- forever. It's a legalized counterfeiting operation -- pure and simple. Way back in 1931, Louis T. McFadden, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, saw the problem: "The Federal Reserve Board and banks are the duly appointed agents of the foreign central banks of issue and they are more concerned with their foreign customer than they are with the people of the United States. The only thing that is American about the Federal Reserve Board and banks is the money they use." "Mr. Chairman," he pleaded on the House floor a year later, "we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States government institutions. They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are thos
[CTRL] One of McVeigh's Last Requests
-Caveat Lector- Forgo to reproduce this poem for you - sounds more like Tales from the Dark Side or Crypt. For McVeigh may have been a good soldier just like Gideon who did exactly as he was told, and never questioned an orderGideon and his 300. McVeigh would do well to consider Suffer Little Children and wonder - why did they leave the babies in the cribs and BATF and FBI and one Judge stayed home that day - these cowardly bastards left them there to die? And remember the book writiten in advance for profit - who was that that creep Sessions brother? Saba INVICTUS OUT of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade, And yet the menace of the years Finds and shall find me unafraid. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. WILlIAM E. HENLEY http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Russian gold producers express interest in GATA
4:10p ET Monday, April 2, 2001 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: The Russian news agency Interfax today reported interest in GATA among Russian gold producers. Its story is appended here. GATA came to solicit support in Russia only recently, and some Americans have been critical of this, assuming that Russia's hostility toward the United States remains from the Cold War. But Russia and the United States are no longer enemies. And Russia is just like all the other developing countries GATA has sought to help in their need to exploit their natural resources and get fair prices for them. If it isn't quite dead, Russian imperialism is a far cry from what it once was. But Wall Street's imperialism is as rapacious as ever. So greetings to our Russian friends. We'll be talking with them soon and will invite them to the GATA African Gold Summit in Durban, South Africa, next month. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * Russian producers may join Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee MOSCOW, April 2 (Interfax) -- The Russian Union of Gold Producers is considering joining the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA), an organization set up in the United States in 1999 fight the manipulation of world gold prices. Union chairman Valery Braiko told Interfax that "if union members understand that the committee can raise the price of gold on the world market, the union will join it." GATA's website states that the committee was set up "to advocate and undertake litigation against illegal collusion to control the price and supply of certain financial securities, particularly securities involving gold." The committee aims to bring the gold price up to $600 per troy ounce from the current average of about $260. -END- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends! http://us.click.yahoo.com/03IJGA/DMUCAA/4ihDAA/WyOVlB/TM">Click Here! -_-> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[CTRL] Fwd: INVICTUS-William E. Henley
Thought it not too strange McVeigh picked this poem by Henley; but he is not the master of his fate nor was he the captain of his soul. This poetry is something else - for instance, remember Clinton sent little Monica Leavaes of Grass, which was Lee Harvey Oswald's or one of his favorites.could be some of this stuff contains more than just special personal meaning? The movie Dead Poets Society - the poem by Whitman My Captain, My Capain had very special meaning; further this Dead Poets Society was a take on the old Hells Fire Club - who met in caves into which Benjamin Franklin had been initiated - some said a devil's cult, for they also dwelled in drugs and pornogoraphy - in fact John Wilkes Booth, the one who murdered Lincoln - and of course a Shakespearian Actor - his great etc. grandfather John Wilkes, was initiated into this Hells Fire Club and when exposed for his terrible writing of pornography - well he was portrayed by Hogarth, also Hells Firre Club, as a devil... So McVeigh in this book states he deliberately left the literature to be found; of course this is one thing I have believed and the same goes for little Buford and others who carefully paint the little red arrows to their literature - but who and what really prints some of this stuff? Now Clinton with his Leaves of Grass - and Oswald with his Leaves of Grass; take Arthur Bremer with the first line in his diary being first line from Moby Dick - Call Me Ishmael (symbolzing great white whale?)... The shot heard around the world - occured on April 19 - 1775 - often wondered if there was a connection to that date for the Minutemen the symbolism comes right from the bible - Nixon had his bible open to Isaiah day he was inaugurated "and they shall beat their swords into ploughshares"a time of peace but in a time of pending war - "they shall beat their ploughshares into swords"...and in a minute the original minutemen were ready to go to war, as today we have the Minutemen Missile System, etc. So I think McVeigh viritually was involved in an excution and does not know it; he too like an Oswald was a Patsy..big question, why did ADL tell BATF, FBI, and one Judge to stay home that day? Protecting their own? One thing certain, McVeigh had no connection to a militia though he evidently attempted to get inside - like Oswald, leaving false trails . Oklahoma? Well look that up in your Gideon Bible.read the story of Gideon and his 300.and wonder? If McVeigh felt so bad about WACO why would he pemit innocents in the Murrah Building to be killed - in particular the children? Oh I believe Gideon and the 300 engineered that bombing for obvious reasons and found a good little Patsy in McVeigh. Here is story of othe minutemenand you put misiles in Silos or S(h)ilos?Still belie we are looking for a little bit more than a small town boy who would have been happier living on a farm or ranch somewhere Note reference to Patriots and Minutemen - the former we have the Patriot missiles and the Minutemen Missiles..we also have the enemy within who blew up the Murrah Building and if this seems far fetched consider the enemy sitting in FBI taking diamonds from KGB and paid agent for KGB sitting next to Freeh for how long in the FBI building? Consider Freeh going to Russia to meet with KGB and was oh so thrilled to be with them and so impressed. Consider Freeh and what really happened at WACO - silencing of more lambs? Slaughter of the innocents - cover ups? And now they look for more scape goats. Well the bombing at Oklahoma was like the shot heard around the world.but consider this - Waco should have been the first shot fired and Oklahoma a delayed reaction to the first - but who chose this date of April 19. >From my bible calendar I made one prediction to a man (Jewish) who said the Gulf War when Papa Bush was President would go on for at least a year, some press said so..I gave him exact date it ended looking for one key ine in bible timed to bible calendara code "proclaim liberty through the land" which is written on the original Liberty Bell...based on Papa Bush's words "we are going to liberate Kuwait", now that was the word heard around the world. So all answers are found coded or right before your eyes, in the King James Bible.stranger yet, the Wasteland by Walt Whiteman - he took this title from the bible..Ezekial is a very interesting chapter too, full of masonic symbolism and Ezekial 38 and 39 is key to JFK Murders? Put this all together and to me, it speels KGB and it might do well to remember the Navy Walker spies who formed a KKK for the KGB while KGB sent out KKK literature and got caught. Cute? Remember the USS Liberty. For things are just not as they seem to be, in particular when you looked through Clinton's dark mirror (and he stole that line from the bible too). So goodbye McVeigh - he was right about one thing, his trial was a spe
Re: [CTRL] JW: GUTLESS REPUBLICANS BURY PARDONGATE INVESTIGATION
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/02/2001 10:07:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yeah, like Roger (her brother) had none, either;-) >> Well, I hope you have a brother. I know you'll be a good brother, because you'll pay his debts, clean his house and apologize to his wife if he has indiscretions. He'll be so grateful when you drive his children to their various destinations and attend the teacher conferences for him. Alas my brother has not done these things, nor has he advised me as to his business ventures or his capital investments. Of course I am not the wife of an individual whose family reputation has been put through a shredder; no one has recommended that my daughter be killed recently and my husband didn't fire Billy Dale thus incurring the wrath of every journalist in the United States, so perhaps my brother doesn't think I have enough "pull" to help him in his business ventures. There is also the fact that my husband has a mind of his own and never asks me to make his decisions for him. I understand that your experience has been different. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Clinton's Chinagate Chickens Come Home to Roost
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/02/2001 9:55:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It looks like Bill Clinton's Chinagate chickens are coming home to roost. >> Odd, I've been thinking that since the Republican congress made every effort to brand China as an enemy, and since our FBI tried to blame Chinese-Americans for China having gotten some information that wasn't even secret any longer and made such a fuss about how awful Chinese-Americans were and how it was certainly pardonable for others to take all the classified home to their home computers, but that the Chinese were all against us, they've finally convinced China that we really are enemies. Now that we've added the 2001 version of the U-2, I guess there's something coming to roost all right, but I don't think it can be attributed to Clinton. As for an immediate "demand," well, I guess we'll probably have the usual Republican war. I'll admit that China might be more of a handful than the Gulf, Panama, and Grenada, but think of the profits our arms manufacturers will reap. It'll completely revitalize our economy. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- McVeigh reveals details of Oklahoma blast By Ellen Wulfhorst Tuesday April 3, 04:01 AM http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010403/80/bhonc.html NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh says he always expected to be caught, convicted and executed for the deadly 1995 blast, which he claims sent a powerful anti-government message like a "shot heard around the world," according to a new book. Awaiting his scheduled May 16 execution, McVeigh says he looks forward to his death as a relief but regrets never having a family and once asked if his sperm could be sent from prison to impregnate a woman, according to "American Terrorist" (HarperCollins) by Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck. He later reconsidered, deciding the life of his child "would be hell." Of his death, McVeigh said in the book: "I'll be glad to leave this ... world. Truth is, I determined mostly through my travels that this world just doesn't hold anything for me. "I knew I wanted this before it happened," he added. "I knew my objective was a state- assisted suicide." At his execution, McVeigh said he plans to quote from "Invictus" by William Ernest Henley, which reads, in part: "I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul." The two authors of "American Terrorist," both of whom work at the Buffalo News in western New York, held days of interviews and exchanged hundreds of letters with McVeigh, who was raised outside Buffalo in Pendleton, New York. McVeigh was convicted in 1997 of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City and sentenced to death. Saying he had expected to be caught, McVeigh said he purposely left anti-government literature in his car. MCVEIGH EXPECTED TO BE EXECUTED He told a prison psychiatrist: "I expect to be convicted for the bombing, and I expect to receive the death penalty." The bomb, which he describes in detail assembling in the back of a rented truck, killed 168 people, including 19 children. In quotes released last week from the book, McVeigh said he considered the children's deaths "collateral damage" but regretted they may have soured the public response to his act. Markedly stoic during his federal trial in Denver, McVeigh revealed he was frequently furious during the proceedings. "There were times when I felt like jumping to my feet and screaming, 'Knock it off! Everyone here knows I'm guilty! Let's get on with it!'" he said. McVeigh said he was angered by his defence team, led by attorney Stephen Jones, whom he felt was disorganised and publicity-seeking and who would not let him mount his "necessity defence" -- that he bombed the Murrah building because America was in imminent danger at the hands of its government. McVeigh also said he grew angry when prosecutor Joseph Hartzler called him a coward. Sparking his anger, according to McVeigh and to prosecutors, was the 1993 government siege and raid in Waco, Texas, that led to the deaths of Branch Davidian cult members. "NO BIG CONSPIRACY" "To these people in Oklahoma who have lost a loved one, I'm sorry but it happens every day," he said. "You're not the first mother to lose a kid, or the first grandparent to lose a grandson or granddaughter. It happens every day, somewhere in the world. I'm not going to go into that courtroom, curl into a foetal ball, and cry just because the victims want me to do that." McVeigh did reserve sympathy for Terry Nichols, convicted for helping plan the bombing, and Michael Fortier, who admitted knowing about the bombing and reached a plea deal with the government in exchange for testifying against McVeigh. "There was no big conspiracy. It was mostly me. The few friends who helped me were acting under duress, and none of them had any control over when I was going to blow up the Murrah building," McVeigh said. He said Nichols helped him buy ingredients and assemble the bomb only after McVeigh threatened him and his family. Filling in gaps prior to the bombing, McVeigh said he slept in the truck the night before, parked near a roadside motel in northern Oklahoma. He said he originally planned to blow up the building at 11 a.m. but moved the explosion two hours earlier because he did not want to risk staying by the motel any longer. Had he not been caught, McVeigh considered a campaign of murdering individual government officials, the book said. In prison, he became acquainted with Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, and the book contains a letter in which Kaczynski said he liked McVeigh but found the Murrah bombing "unnecessarily inhumane." "A more effective protest could have been made with far less harm to innocent people," Kaczynski wrote. "It is safe to assume that many antigovernment people who might have accepted violence that was more limited and carefully directed were repelled by the large loss of life at O
