[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects
-Caveat Lector- The point of my post which perhaps i did not make clear was not so much the side effects but the claim by Smith Klein glaxo that this drug is not habit forming ...It is Also any side effects which cause people to change their personalities should not be allowed onto the market untill they have been properly tested in this case they were tested and the results which, they tried to hide amongst masses of paperwork, were deemed unacceptable by an independent doctor. Besides this do we really want kids to start taking these mind altering drugs when things dont go right for them...it is part of lifes experience these ups and downs i had them we have all had them that is why we have parents and friends to talk them through not to have pills offered to us as a quick solution. The Mermaid x - Original Message - From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:23 AM Subject: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects -Caveat Lector- Note: Not all people can take all drugs -- legal or otherwise. Of course, the most extreme experiences usually make the news and are therefore used to extrapolate misleading statistics taken as pseudo-fact. I for one, have a hard time with statins the family of drugs that are used to reduce cholesterol. One of the side effects is having a muscular rigidity and I've experienced this almost immediately with two versions (and I'm about to embark on a third). Beyond this, there are considerations as far as liver function effects. And on and on. The ill effects of some drugs are well known (alcohol, e.g.) but people keep on taking them because they feel better off with them than without. Different strokes for different folks. Some people freak out on some things that others can take for indefinite periods of time with no apparent ill effect. An excellent site that explores many facets of drugs in all their wonderous kinds is at the first linque below. Note that some titles may be viewed and when going to a different page that title will not be highlighted as having been visited; this is because there are many article with the same title heading. AER @ http://www.biopsychiatry.com/index.html THE RESPONSIBLE PARENT'S GUIDE TO HEALTHY MOOD-BOOSTERS FOR ALL THE FAMILY From http://muselore.homestead.com/paxil.html Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Frequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Body as a Whole: Malaise (a vague feeling of bodily discomfort), pain. Cardiovascular: Hypertension, syncope (a sudden loss of strength, a temporary suspension of consciousness due to cerebral anemia), tachycardia (excessive rapidity in the action of the heart). Dermatological: Pruritus (Intense itching) Gastrointestinal: Nausea and vomiting. Metabolic and Nutritional: Weight gain, weight loss. Nervous System: Central Nervous System stimulation, concentration impaired, depression, emotional lability (emotional instability), vertigo (a hallucination of movement; a sensation as if the external world were revolving around the patient or as if he himself were revolving in space). Respiratory: Cough increased, rhinitis (inflammation of the mucus membrane of the nose). Infrequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Infrequent Paxil side effects occurred in at least 1 in 1000 people. Body as a Whole: Allergic reaction, chills, face edema (abnormal amount of fluid in the facial tissue), infection, moniliasis (infection caused by Candida (yeast like fungi), neck pain, overdose. Cardiovascular: Bradycardia (abnormal slowness of the heartbeat), conduction abnormalities (abnormal transfer of sound waves, heat, nerve influences, or electricity), ECG abnormal, hypotension (lowered blood pressure), migraine, ventricular extrasystoles (a premature contraction of the heart). Dermatological: Acne, alopecia (absence of hair from the body where it is normally present), dry skin, ecchymosis (blood under the skin, usually looks or appears like a bruise), eczema (an inflammatory skin disease characterized by lesions varying greatly in character, at times watery discharge and the development of scales and crust), furunculosis (a number of painful nodules formed in the skin, caused by bacteria, which enter through the hair follicles or glands, its formation is favored by digestive derangement and local irritation), herpes simplex, urticaria (reaction of the skin to certain drugs, marked by the appearance of smooth, slightly elevated patches, which are redder or paler than the surrounding skin and often includes severe itching). Gastrointestinal: Bruxism (grinding of the teeth especially during sleep), buccal cavity disorders (cavity running from the cheeks to the lips), dysphagia (inflammation of the esophagus), eructation (the act of belching or casting up wind from the stomach), gastroentertitis (inflammation of the stomach or intestines), gastrointestinal flu, glossitis
[CTRL] Europe Alarmed By U.S. Plan for General to Govern Iraq
-Caveat Lector- http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2002-10/13/article23.shtml Europe Alarmed By U.S. Plan for General to Govern Iraq Anti-war demonstrations worldwide do not seem to convince Bush to back off LONDON, October 13 (IslamOnline News Agencies) - America's European allies are alarmed at a plan, on the making, in Washington to install a U.S. general to govern Iraq, after an inevitable invasion is complete, a British paper reported Sunday, October 13. According to The Telegraph, the proposal (invading Iraq and installing a U.S. military ruler there to replace the Iraqi regime) is an implicit acknowledgement that America's long-running effort to identify an immediate and credible successor to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, among the ranks of the Iraqi opposition, has foundered. Diplomats say that the suggestion, made by senior Bush administration officials Friday, October 11, has endangered frantic American and British efforts to secure a United Nations Security Council resolution backing tough new weapons inspections inside Iraq, the paper added. One European official said: If you're worried about military action and you have concerns about American intentions, as some people do, then this kind of suggestion is only going to increase your suspicion. Iraqi dissidents and the Arab League expressed dismay at the prospect of the country being run by a foreign power. Hamid al-Bayati, a representative of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, a Shiite-led opposition group, met U.S. officials in August. He said: We were told that they want a broad-based Iraqi government, with no direct American role. Under the plan, modeled on America's occupation of Japan after the Second World War, a top American commander - possibly General Tommy Franks, now in charge of U.S. forces in the region - would assume the senior role in a coalition-run regime. The military regime's first task would be to find and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Only once this was achieved, after at least a year, would power be passed to Iraq's opposition groups, who are judged incapable of quickly forming a stable government. France and Russia, two of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, are dragging their feet over U.S. calls for inspections to be backed up by the simultaneous threat of military force, and many NATO members are also nervous. The plan emanated from the Pentagon, where U.S. hawks, led by Donald Rumsfeld, the Defense Secretary, want a quick invasion, assisted by hoped-for mutinies within Iraqi military ranks. One London-based diplomat told The Telegraph, Someone at the Pentagon has decided it's a good time to leak this, without thinking that it does not go down well elsewhere. At a practical level, there are doubts over whether America has sufficient service personnel required. The total strength of the U.S. armed forces is 1,414,000, with an army of 485,000, but of these only 15 per cent or less are deployable on operations overseas. American planners calculate that a force of 75,000 U.S. and allied troops will be needed for the occupation, which could last up to 10 years. Under the plans, a ground force of five armored divisions and two airborne and helicopter assault divisions will be used in the operation to remove Saddam. Jack Straw, the British Foreign Secretary, flies to Washington this week to warn America that it must prepare to back down on its demand for a single UN resolution authorizing new weapons inspections inside Iraq and military force if they fail. Straw will tell Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, that after a month of diplomatic negotiations it is now unlikely that Russia and France will agree to the American demand. Instead British officials are pinning their hopes on a weaker option: a first, strongly-worded resolution setting out the inspections regime and making clear that some kind of consequence will follow if Iraq fails to co-operate. A second resolution, explicitly authorizing force, could follow if necessary. We'd prefer a single resolution, but the most important thing is to have a UN process, said one official. We do not want to end up with no UN resolution at all. The Iraqi regime has dismayed the UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, and strengthened the hand of British and American diplomats by going back on arrangements for a new round of inspections in Iraq which Blix thought had been agreed. An Iraqi letter to the UN, which came to light Saturday, October 11, failed to confirm details that Blix thought had been nailed down at the end of last month. It said security guarantees could not be provided for UN aircraft in northern and southern Iraq, unless no-fly zones patrolled by British and American aircraft were lifted. We are not surprised that once again the Iraqis want to delay and deceive, said a spokesman for John D Negroponte, the U.S. ambassador to the UN. Meanwhile in Baghdad, Iraq's
[CTRL] U.S. Spurns New Iraqi Invitation to U.N. Arms Inspectors
-Caveat Lector- http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2002-10/13/article19.shtml U.S. Spurns New Iraqi Invitation to U.N. Arms Inspectors Our president to be our dearest, Iraqi Women chant WASHINGTON, October 13 (IslamOnline News Agencies) - The U.S. dismissed as world play Iraq's new offer to allow U.N. weapons inspectors unconditional access to its facilities. In a letter sent Saturday October 12, to chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix and Mohamed El Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iraq clarified its agreement on the return of U.N. inspectors after they pulled out of the country four years ago, said Agence France-Presse (AFP) . Commenting on the letter, State Department spokeswoman Jo-Anne Prokopowicz claimed Iraq continues to want to play word games and not comply with U.N. resolutions. Iraq had written an earlier letter dated Friday October 10 to the U.N. which had been construed as evasive and criticized by the U.S. administration. Washington dismissed the October 10 letter as a page-and-a-half of rhetoric that says everything but 'yes'. IAEA spokesman Mark Gwozdecky told AFP the Saturday letter, the second in two days, from Iraqi presidential adviser Amir El-Sadi, head of the Iraqi delegation to weapons talks in Vienna on October 1, was an explicit confirmation that Iraq agreed to arrangements made in Vienna. The letter is new but my understanding is that the content of the letter isn't new, it's merely meant to set the record straight, he added. It is meant to try to dispel any misinterpretation that the previous letter might have led to and basically to make it clear that the arrangements and the agreements reached in Vienna were now formally agreed in writing, Gwozdecky said. But he did not believe the letter would affect plans to delay the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq until a new U.N. Security Council resolution has been passed. The Iraqis believe that what they did in Vienna was remove all obstacles to the return of weapons inspectors. They did remove some obstacles, but one exception was this question of presidential palaces, he said. One of the main areas of contention is the inspection of President Saddam Hussein's presidential palaces. But Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said in Hamburg Saturday October 12 that inspectors would have unfettered access to all areas of Iraq. Malaysia on Sunday October 13, urged the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to call an emergency meeting in a bid to avert a U.S.-led war against Iraq. The OIC needed to speak with one voice on Washington's threat to invade Iraq and topple the regime of President Saddam, Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar told the official Bernama news agency. I will send the letter [calling for an emergency meeting] to the OIC secretary-general tomorrow. We must come out with one voice and our actions must be integrated, Syed Hamid said. This is the time for all OIC member states to issue clear statements on their respective stands and initiate diplomatic efforts and negotiations to avert a war on Iraq. Syed Hamid said he feared an attack on Iraq would arouse anger and feelings of marginalization among Muslims and even moderate Muslims will eventually be influenced and become extreme because their moderation was not reciprocated. Malaysia, a mainly Muslim Southeast Asian nation which has supported the U.S. war on terrorism, is due to take over the chairmanship of the OIC after a summit here in October next year. In a show of popular solidarity with him, Naam, naam, Saddam, Yes, yes, Saddam, echoes across the parade ground outside the Iraqi ruling Baath Party headquarters in a northern Baghdad suburb. We don't want bread and water, we want our president to be our dearest, chanted a group of Iraqi women. Bush, Bush listen here, we all love Saddam, said a middle-aged man in a well-worn safari suit to thunderous applause. A referendum is to be held Tuesday October 15 on a new seven-year presidential term for Saddam. Meanwhile, the U.S. is reportedly mulling what shape the government in a post-Saddam Iraq might take, including some form of military occupation government. Secretary of State Colin Powell confirming press reports on the plans, told National Public Radio Saturday October 12, Should it come to that -- and the president hopes that it does not...we would have an obligation to put in place a better regime. We are obviously doing contingency planning, and there are lots of different models from history that one could look at: Japan, Germany, Powell said. The New York Times and The Washington Post jump-started questions about the issue, reporting Friday October 11, that the U.S. administration was preparing an occupation plan for Iraq, calling for a U.S.-led military government before a civilian Iraqi government could take over. The plan includes a transition to an elected civilian government in Iraq that could take months or
[CTRL] The True Motives Behind The Impending War on Iraq
-Caveat Lector- 9th October 2002 The True Motives Behind The Impending War on Iraq On the anniversary of the start of the U.US. war in Afghanistan, in Cincinnati, Ohio, George Bush delivered a speech attempting to string together a convincing argument to launch a war against Iraq. In unison British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was also on a tour of the Middle East and Persian Gulf, discussing with Saddam's neighbours the possibilities of an upcoming war. Despite the numerous attempts that the British and American governments are putting forward, it should be clear that this will be a colonial war based on furthering their strategic, political and economic interests.By reviewing the arguments that are put forward to provide a rationale to attack Iraq their absurdity becomes apparent. This should prompt us to scrutinise the true and real motives behind this impending war. The following are some of the key reasons for going to war with Iraq that have been outlined by Bush and Blair: 1. The first claim made about Iraq is that it is in material breach of numerous UN resolutions. George Bush in his address to the UN General Assembly on 12 September went through a painstaking review of all the resolutions that Saddam had broken. The problem with going down this path is that other countries notably India and Israel have also put the proverbial V sign up to UN resolutions, yet there is no sense that Tel Aviv or New Delhi are being warmed up for an imminent attack. The concept of double standards gives too much credence to Western leaders as it assumes they have some belief in the concept of International law in the first place, they simply don't. Conformity with International law only occurs when it coincides with national interests. The simple fact of five permanent members having a veto in an institution which is designed to represent democracy and the norms of international law would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. 2. The second claim made about Iraq is that it should be attacked because it has weapons of mass destruction (WMD's). Well taking that logic a lot of countries have WMD's including the countries, which want to do the attacking. So obviously this cannot be the real reason. Bush said in his recent speech, Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are controlled by a murderous tyrant, who has already used chemical weapons to kill thousands of people. Yet Bush's predecessors in the Whitehouse also used nuclear bombs and chemical weapons, in Japan and Vietnam to name a few, needless to say these killed hundreds of thousands of people. 3. The third claim is that Saddam is a monster, a real brutal dictator who terrorises his own people and therefore needs to be removed. The retort to the argument that it was the West who armed and befriended Saddam in the 80's is met with disdain. According to Bill Clinton's view the West has some moral duty therefore to cleanse the swamp it has itself created. There wouldn't be a problem with this argument if the West just came out and said that dealing with nasty and brutal dictators really did depend on one's political interests rather that this farce of pretending in some way that they have empathy and sympathy with the people who live under these dictators. Madeline Albright when asked a few years ago on US television whether the death of 500,000 Iraqi children as a result of UN sanctions was a price worth paying, she replied 'Yes I believe it was a price worth paying'. The real acid test on whether the West conforms to this doctrine of an ethical foreign policy is to look at the West's current allies in the 'War on Terror'. This reveals several unsavoury people like Islam Karimov the butcher of Tashkent who routinely kills and imprisons his political opponents. While Baghdad anticipates the imminent prospects of cruise missiles, F16's and carpet bombing Tashkent expects with bated breath, bumper US aid packages, more IMF loans and further encouragement in its crackdown on Islamic groups. 4. The fourth claim is that Saddam Hussein is a special case in that he has a track record of using his WMD's on his own citizens as well as previous experience of invading his neighbours. However the use of WMD's and invading other countries is not confined to Saddam and the same accusation can be legitimately applied at the US, Britain or Israel . So in need of a convincing argument Britain and America prophesise that Iraq could develop nuclear weapons within months and then pass these over to groups such as Al Qaeda. This latter argument gives rise to the new neo conservative thinking within the Bush White House which states that pre-emption is a perfectly acceptable political and military doctrine especially after 9/11 which they say has changed the international and security landscape.The advocators of this doctrine or as some have described the real 'axis of evil' are Defence Secretary Rumsfeld,
[CTRL] What War Means to the Iraqi People
-Caveat Lector- http://www.counterpunch.org/mahajan1011.html October 11, 2002 What War Means to the Iraqi People by ROMI MAHAJAN I woke up early to the news today and wish sleep carried me a little longer. In much poetry, dawn represents the breaking of the methaphorical night of loneliness, a respite from pain. But for the Iraqi people, this is not that dawn. In an early morning vote, the Senate voted to approve Bush's Iraq resolutions with a stunning 77-23 majority. Yesterday, the House voted more than two-to-one in favor of the resolution. The way is now paved for a military attack on the impoverished Iraqi people. The mightiest power in the world will soon attack a reeling, poor country of 22 million people. For us in the U.S., we can only imagine what devastation will be wroght, but in the sewer filled streets of Basra, in the filthy, decaying hospitals of Baghdad, in the shanties of Karbala, the Iraqi people know all too well what awaits them. Theirs has not been an easy life. For 22 years they have been subject to wars not of their making. 22 years ago, in 1980, Saddam Hussein attacked Iran. The ensuing war lasted 8 long years and cost each side over half a million lives. Then, Iran was a vilified enemy of Washington and thus the U.S. looked at the war favorably. Of course, the U.S. wasn't simply a dispassionate observer, it actively abetted: it provided arms, support, and credit to Iraq, provided Saddam Hussein seed stock for chemical weapons, allowed Iraqi tankers to sail the gulf under the U.S. flag, and even shot down a commercial Iranian airliner. Later it was revealed that the U.S. also sold arms to Iran during this time, supporting its policy of dual containment, one dedicated to the notion that if aspiring brown countries expend their energies and resources fighting each other, they won't be able to develop independently. 8 years of war, hundreds of thousands of dead youth, and a hundred billion dollars later, Iraq emerged the victor, albeit one in heavy debt and in which hardly a family existed who did not lose a loved one in the war. The next two years saw Saddam and his forces brutally attack the Kurdish population of the North-- under the watchful eyes of the U.S -- killing tens of thousands of civilians. And as Iraq reeled under a heavy burden of deebt, it called upon other Arab nations to pay for their share of the Iran-Iraq war and was turned away. Tensions mounted and wars of words ensued. Meanwhile, the entire political world was changing. The Soviet Union was disintegrating and the U.S. was emerging as the sole superpower, one that needed a proving ground for the New World Order it was developing in its own image. With incredible political legerdemain coupled with the gift of insanity that the despots it has always supported have inevitably bestowed upon it, the U.S. got what it wanted: Iraq in the crosshairs. On August 2, 1990 Saddam Hussein's forces invaded Kuwait. On August 6, 1990 - Hiroshima Day - the U.S., under the formal auspices of the U.N., put Iraq under the most onerous sanctions regime in modern History. And between January and April 1991, the sole superpower, with a fawning coalition of countries, bombed Iraq mercilessly, destroying not only military but also civilian infrastructure. Water treatment plants, drug factories, and electrical plants were destroyed. The sanctions war took over where the bombing war ended. For 12 long years, the Iraqi people have been under an incredibly onerous sanctions regime. Clean water, medicines, and food are all in short supply in Iraq. The education system is in ruins, the economy is in shambles, and the children of Iraq have been stripped bare of hope. Also, over the last 12 years, Iraq has been under the direct attack of the US: a deadly set of missile attacks in 1993, operation Desert Storm in 1998, and ongoing bomb runs by coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones. The Iraqi people have suffered for 22 years. Generations have grown up under war and sanctions. Children suffer the most. The sanctions themselves have directly led to the death of over 1 million Iraqi children. Now, Iraqi parents must prepare to lose more. Many Western journalists report that in Iraq, people seem non-chalant about war, indifferent. It's curious to me how this can possibly be true. I wonder how many of these journalists understand that while one can bomb and starve a people, their dignity will force them to put up a brave front to those from the very countries that plague them. The argument is that after 22 years of conflict, the people are inured to suffering. No parent can be inured to the suffering and death of her children. The argument is that after 22 years of conflict, war is no big deal. That's like saying that since they suffer anyway and have suffered long, let's make them suffer more. No, folks, there is no way around it. War will kill Iraqi people. And they will sob for their children with severed limbs,
[CTRL] Foes of Policy on Iraq Finally Coming to Life
-Caveat Lector- http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1007-03.htm Published on Monday, October 7, 2002 by the Chicago Tribune Foes of Policy on Iraq Finally Coming to Life by Salim Muwakkil The Bush administration's irrational belligerence toward Iraq finally has awakened some of the loyal opposition to initiate a serious debate on the matter of war with that damaged nation. On Thursday, a lineup of about 30 Democratic lawmakers gathered outside the Capitol building to detail their displeasure for a resolution that would authorize President Bush to use any force against Iraq that he deemed necessary and appropriate to defend the U.S., and to enforce UN Security Council resolutions. Leading members of the House, including Minority Leader Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.), already had reached an agreement with the Bush administration to support the resolution. The emergence of what seems to be a growing anti-war faction, organized primarily by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat from Ohio, reveals some serious divisions within party ranks. I am completely at a loss to explain to you why the minority leader of the House, the Democratic leader, would join with President Bush in this kind of activity, noted Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) at the news conference. Conyers, a ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, called the resolution the most disturbing arrogation of constitutional power by any president in my memory. Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.) made the point that the resolution proposes a leap before you look strategy that ultimately jeopardizes American security. Ohio Democratic Rep. Sherrod Brown said the proposed resolution allowing pre-emptive unilateral action represents a radical change in our military doctrine. [Unilateral action in Iraq] sends a message to our allies and to others around the world that if the United States, the world's superpower, a member of the UN Security Council, is willing to do that, then why can't we? Brown said. He added that Bush never once mentioned his plans for such a dramatic departure from military tradition in his presidential campaign. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) displayed two uneven stacks of e-mails and letters, claiming those opposing war represented the largest stack by far. Like many of the other House members, she argued that she is being bombarded by messages urging her to oppose the Bush administration's war resolution. Some observers trace these ripples of dissent to a Sept. 23 speech by former Vice President Al Gore in which he argued that an Iraq attack will damage the war on terrorism, weaken U.S. leadership in the world and create new enemies. But many members of Congress had expressed opposition to the logic of the Bush Doctrine long before Gore's well-publicized comments. Some members also blame the media for minimizing dissenters. Let's see how much media coverage there'll be of this news conference, shouted one voice in the audience. People have been asking `Where are the Democrats?' Well, here are the Democrats, said Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.). Waters has been a consistent critic of the administration's overall Middle East policies and has often urged her party mates to be more vocal. Waters said the Bush administration has failed to provide the proof that Iraq has possession of nuclear weapons and is willing to use them. The U.S. keeps pushing for an intrusive inspection regime, yet, she noted, we seem to forget that the CIA was caught spying on Iraq during the last spate of inspections. The California lawmaker expressed considerable cynicism regarding Bush's plans for an invasion of Iraq. Seems like no matter what we do, the determination has already been made, she said. But there were hints that this ripple of dissent may move beyond the progressive elements of the Democratic Party. Rep. Jim Moran, a centrist Democrat from Virginia with a hawkish record, joined the crowd of dissenters. Saddam Hussein is the one who should be marginalized, not the U.S. Congress, Moran said. The basis of his dissent is the new powers the resolution grants to the president. He said our new national security strategy that allows for unilateral, pre-emptive military action upon the president's own authority has implications for the rest of the world that will come back to haunt us. There also has been an uptick in anti-war demonstrations around the U.S., including two in Chicago last week. In addition to the usual left-leaning suspects, there is considerable opposition to the Bush administration's war plans among conservatives. Pat Buchanan has used some of that aggressive opposition to help fuel a new magazine called the American Conservative. The voices of dissent are rising and just may prevent the U.S. from becoming the 21st Century's leading warmonger--but don't bet on it. Salim Muwakkil is a senior editor at In These Times E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright © 2002, Chicago Tribune A
[CTRL] Wake Up, Maryland
-Caveat Lector- Wake Up, Maryland This Article Was Published In The Montgomery County Journal http://www.mcsm.org/dirlik2.html Wake up, Maryland, and realize gun control fails By STEVE DIRLIK Let me provide an answer to State Sen. Ulysses Currie's viewpoint, Gun laws reduce crime - so what are we waiting for? (Feb. 7). We are waiting for objective and honest politicians who legislate based on fact, not fiction. We are waiting for compelling evidence that shows gun control has reduced crime somewhere, anywhere, including New Jersey, the lone jurisdiction Currie cites as proof that gun control works. Note that in Vermont, where citizens can legally carry a concealed firearm without a permit, the murder rate is half that of New Jersey's. The District of Columbia has been waiting 25 years for its complete handgun ban to reduce crime, but it hasn't happened yet. England has waited five years for its handgun prohibition to work, but crime has gone up, not down. There are similar documented failures in New York City, Chicago, Australia and elsewhere, but politicians simply ignore these failures to further their own political agendas while pandering for the votes of their liberal constituents. Maryland has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the nation, yet as Currie himself noted, ``Maryland has the dubious distinction of having the highest rate of youth handgun killings. Note that Maryland is also No. 1 in robbery, No. 3 in murder and No. 4 in overall violent crime. Just across the Potomac River, however, Virginia's gun laws are so ``bad that Virginians can legally sell each other handguns without background checks or waiting periods. Virginians also can carry concealed weapons. Yet Virginia's violent crime rate is much lower than Maryland's. Why? I'll answer that question, too. Virginia's legislature is not waiting for a gun-control miracle to somehow prevent criminals from committing crime. Unlike Maryland's legislature, they've realized that the only way to reduce crime is to actually put criminals in jail. Project Exile in Richmond is a well-documented example of how to reduce crime. Along the highways in Virginia, billboards give prospective criminals this stern warning: ``Illegal gun? Five years mandatory in a state prison. Regardless of what any judge or lawyer says, there is no parole, no plea bargain and no early release. This works. What doesn't work is Maryland's absurd revolving door of justice. ``In Maryland, a judge can reduce a sentence at any time, for any reason, according to the Journal article, ``Truth in sentencing: A justifiable and fair demand by Del. Marilyn Goldwater, D- Bethesda. She notes: ``Maryland has the dubious distinction of being the only state that gives judges such complete latitude with sentence reconsideration. In recent years, this particular ``dubious distinction lets Maryland judges release 1,100 criminals early and return 90 convicted murderers to our streets. One released murderer killed a policeman and a store clerk in Prince George's County, in Currie's district. This double-murderer served only 16 years of his double-life sentence. Does this make any sense? Maryland has the most lenient judges, the most lenient sentencing laws and the highest violent-crime rate. Is this merely a coincidence, or are these ``dubious distinctions somehow related? I'll let Currie, D, ponder that question, while I pose yet another: Now that we know what works, and what doesn't, what are we really waiting for? If we sincerely want to reduce crime, we know that putting criminals away works, and gun control doesn't. We are waiting for Maryland citizens to make their political system work by voting out the politicians who are either too cynical to choose public safety over politics, or too stupid to recognize which policies actually reduce crime. Instead of working hard on crime-control policies to make their own constituents safe from criminals, Maryland's incumbents worked hard on redrawing district lines to keep their own seats safe from political challengers. It's our job to vote these guys out, and vote in politicians who have the courage to put criminals behind bars. We, at Montgomery Citizens for a Safer Maryland, are waiting for Maryland citizens to wake up. -- Steve Dirlik is a member of and spokesman for Montgomery Citizens for a Safer Maryland, which opposes gun control as a means to reduce crime. He lives in Silver Spring. This Information Is From MCSM In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ 17/107.shtml Home Page Copyright © 2002 MCSM Most recent revision February 2002 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational
[CTRL] Olde Merrie Land
-Caveat Lector- So here we have it (as far back as at least 1999): *Why*, of all places, would this apparent stranger (if what they found to be driving directions around MD are indeed his) go to the Land of Mary to start dropping people? Perhaps I'm reading too much into this but if someone wanted easy prey, it might be that which cannot defend itself. So, we've got the MD AG : Curran (D), the state's chief lawyer, wants Maryland lawmakers to ... prohibit people from carrying concealed weapons in public places... So every time there's a loose cannon (!), the Merrie Landers have to wait for a cop to come to their rescue, something they've so far proven to be ineffective if not impossible. AER From http://www.psychops.com/Headlines/Maryland_Gun_Laws/maryland_gun_laws.html Tough Laws For Guns Proposed In Maryland Attorney General Says Goal Is Ban By Daniel LeDuc Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 20, 1999; Page A01 Maryland Attorney General J. Joseph Curran is proposing a wide-ranging package of laws that would make the state's gun control regulations among the strictest in the nation and says his ultimate goal is a ban on handguns. Curran (D), the state's chief lawyer, wants Maryland lawmakers to tighten background checks on potential gun owners, prohibit people from carrying concealed weapons in public places and ease liability laws to make it easier to sue gunmakers. He is considering whether to sue gun manufacturers for the violence caused by their products. Our public policy goal must be to rid our communities of handguns, Curran says in a report he is releasing today outlining his proposals. State leaders said they had yet to review the attorney general's proposals. But Curran's recommendations come at a time when Gov. Parris N. Glendening (D) has put gun control on the forefront of his legislative agenda this winter with a push for smart gun technology that would prevent handguns from being fired by anyone but their owners. The attorney general said he supports the governor's proposal, as well as legislation that would make illegal gun possession and sales a felony. They are misdemeanors now. He also wants to give police officers additional powers to investigate gun trafficking. Curran said he was prompted by the gun violence that has troubled the nation over the past year. He cited shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, an Atlanta brokerage house, a Los Angeles day-care center and a Fort Worth church that left 32 dead. In an interview, Curran said he had not ruled out taking legal action against gun manufacturers. Nearly 20 cities and counties throughout the nation have sued gunmakers to recoup the cost of treating gunshot victims. None have come to trial. A judge recently threw out a suit filed by Cincinnati, handing gunmakers a victory. But in the face of the new litigation, Colt's Manufacturing Co., the venerable Connecticut gunmaker, has said it is discontinuing many of its handguns. Curran said he wanted to make a legislative push before suing and hoped that enactment of his legislative proposals would be the first step in what he acknowledged could be a more- than-decade-long effort to restrict handguns. Handguns should be the province of the military or law enforcement or a special segment of people such as some sporting enthusiasts or shopkeepers needing protection, he said. As for his legislative proposals, he said, For every solution to a major problem, there has to be a beginning. Curran, a longtime gun control advocate, was reelected to a fourth term in November. He backed a push for banning Saturday night specials while serving in the legislature in 1986 and cites his own experience: His father, while serving on the Baltimore City Council in 1976, was shot at by a gunman who invaded City Hall; his father was not wounded but suffered a heart attack in the incident, Curran said. A spokesman for Glendening said the governor would be briefed on the details of Curran's report today. The governor plans to push hard on his smart-gun proposal and welcomes all other proposals in the debate over how we make our communities safer, said spokesman Michael Morrill. Initial reaction to Curran's proposals from Maryland legislative leaders was mixed. Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (D-Prince George's) said gun control legislation would be based on common sense and could include new requirements for safety locks, but he did not commit to anything more stringent. House Speaker Casper R. Taylor Jr. (D- Allegany) was more receptive and said he expected delegates to pass the governor's smart-gun proposal. We are realizing as a society and as a nation we can't continue to not just condone but enhance and promote a life of violence. I definitely see something happening on gun control, said Taylor, who represents a rural district in Western Maryland where such measures are not popular. Opponents of gun control are already girding
[CTRL] The art of terror
-Caveat Lector- From www.sfgate.com Return to regular view The art of terror Charles Paul Freund Saturday, October 6, 2002 ©2002 San Francisco Chronicle. URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/06/IN225021.DTL Damien Hirst, one of Britain's most celebrated artists, told the BBC last month that the Sept. 11 attacks were visually stunning artworks and that the perpetrators need congratulating. He's sorry for that now. You've got to hand it to them on some level, he originally said of the murderers, because they've achieved something which nobody would have thought possible. Best known for his series of art pieces involving neatly sliced animal carcasses, Hirst now has issued a regret- filled clarification insisting, I value human life. Meanwhile, as Hirst was slapping al Qaeda on its collective back, a New Zealand artist named Gail Haffern was telling the Auckland art press that the destruction of the World Trade Center while filled with people was wonderful . . . because it was a new idea. Haffern's only notable achievement is that she holds New Zealand's first- ever doctorate in fine arts. Being an artist, she says of her reaction to the attacks, I thought what if this had been a performance piece and Osama bin Laden had declared himself an artist, how would the world have seen it then? Her answer is a sculptural installation involving representations of the trade towers, surrounded by blocks featuring such wordplay as Pentagone. As it happens, Hirst and Haffern were echoing sentiments blurted out a year ago by Karlheinz Stockhausen, one of the world's best-known composers. Stockhausen was speaking to journalists in Hamburg, Germany, a few days after the attacks, and called the destruction the greatest work of art ever. Stockhausen immediately asked the interviewers not to report what he had said. However, a juicy quote is at least as appealing to reporters as mass murder is to certain artists, and the composer's remarks resulted in an uproar. What's this about? Haffern, the obscure New Zealander, might be dismissed as seeking cheap notoriety. Hirst and Stockhausen, on the other hand, are acknowledged leaders in their fields; they're hardly in need of bad publicity, as the German composer realized. A reasonable conclusion is that all three meant what they said: that the Sept. 11 attacks had great aesthetic significance, were visually stunning, wonderful in their originality, and even great works of art that deserve recognition and congratulating. One conclusion is that these artists represent an aesthetic barbarity not evident since the painters and writers of prewar Italy and France celebrated violence, destruction and martial strength as necessary to create a fascist order. These, too, saw something positive -- something wonderfully aesthetic -- in force, blood and mayhem, which is why the German critic and philosopher Walter Benjamin charged fascism with aestheticizing its repellent politics. In that sense, these artists and those for whom they speak may be aestheticizing their own politics as well. Until such time as these artists applaud the obliteration of Hiroshima in a wonderfully novel burst of light, or celebrate Hollywood for its beautifully choreographed violence, or embrace the American right to bear arms for its aesthetic potential -- until then, we can justly speculate that it is only when Americans are murdered that the act is revealed as grand art. What really stands out about these various remarks, however, is their breathtaking banality. Stockhausen, for example, placed the acts in the context of cheap melodrama. He told interviewers, That characters can bring about in one act what we in music cannot dream of, that people practice madly for 10 years, completely fanatically, for a concert and then die. That is the greatest work of art for the whole cosmos. But that sounds less like a vision of cosmic art than it does a cynical MGM tearjerker from about 1948. Stockhausen successfully evoked the moody, misunderstood musician, played by an unkempt Louis Jourdan. But where is the fatherly character played by Oscar Homolka, urging Jourdan to end his 10 years of mad practicing and instead marry Olga Baclanova and live a life of small pleasures? No matter, the last scene writes itself: The concert is over, the audience's sneers have become an ovation, but Jourdan lies dead behind the curtain in the arms of a tearful Baclanova who only now understands art's demands. Hirst and Haffern are younger than Stockhausen, and express a more modern banality. Hirst envisions congratulating the terrorist/artists, as if they were gathered for a London gallery opening. What has earned this peer recognition? The work? Of course, but it is the scandal that is unparalleled. These artists have not merely offended their middle-class capitalist audience, they've murdered its members by the thousands. Their art
Re: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE! This is total and complete bullshit! Utterly bullshit. Idiotic psychoreligious paranoia. Typical of screwed up brains like Shannon's. Joshua2 -Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html;http://www.davidicke.com/i cke/index1c.html/A Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE! Map of Shootings shows CROSS OF SATAN Written By D.E. Alexander A HREF=http://www.247news.net/;24 7 News Net /A24 7 News Net - The Alternative News Wire Join our emailing list A HREF=http://www.247news.net/freeupdates.shtml;http://www.247news.net/freeu pdates.shtml/A 24 7 News Net - The Alternative News Wire October 4th, 2002 Update October 9th, 2002 (Psychic Sollog names next locations of Sniper! Click Here for Article on A HREF=http://www.247news.net/2002/sniper.shtml;Sollog's Future Sniper Location Warning/A Update October 11th, 2002 (Sniper Strikes where famous Psychic WARNED!) Click Here for Article on A HREF=http://www.247news.net/2002/sniper.shtml;Sollog's Accurate Warning/A I was doing an interview today with the world famous mystic known as A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A who I have written a couple of books about. A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A is an expert on occult matters and symbols. The reason I was interviewing A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A once again, was that he put the details of yesterday's devastating hurricane into a public court statement SEVEN YEARS AGO TODAY! His statement of October 4th 1995 warned that LOUISIANA would be hit by a major hurricane near New Orleans. Yesterday Lili fulfilled his warning LITERALLY! Close to 2 Billion in damages occurred within 100 miles of New Orleans in Louisiana. Now my interview with A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A about Hurricane Lili is featured in another story on this site. However, this story about the Maryland Shootings is needed since my interview today took an unexpected direction when I asked him about the 5 DEADLY SHOOTINGS in Maryland. A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A said matter-of-factly, The shootings were a SATANIC SACRIFICE performed by a special ops soldier of the US Government who works for a demonic part of the US Government that wishes to take away guns from US Citizens. This same part of the US Government is controlled by a SECRET SATANIC SOCIETY similar to SKULL AND BONES, the SATANIC SOCIETY that George W. Bush and his father belongs to! These SECRET SATANIC SOCIETIES are out to create their NEW WORLD ORDER that is based upon worship of SATAN and THE RAMS HEAD! Taking guns from US Citizens is a necessary part of their SATANIC PLAN to control the world! If you map out the locations of the FIVE SHOOTINGS the locations form THE CROSS OF ST. PETER or the UPSIDE DOWN CROSS that Satanic cults use in their rituals! The number five represents the points of a PENTAGRAM, the sign of a SATANIC SACRIFICE! Two of the victims were CHOSEN since they have RAMS in their names. RAMOS and MARTIN are two of the victims. These names fit the same pattern of the rash of US Kidnappings that all had RAMS or MARS in their names! (See our articles on how the recent US Kidnappings are connected) RAMS are the sacrificial sign of SATAN and MARS is the planetary sign these SATANIC CULTS use in these sacrifices! A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A later sent me a map of the Shootings to verify his claims. Sure enough the map of the area near Washington DC shows an UPSIDE DOWN CROSS in the locations of the shootings! So there you have it, a RASH OF SATANIC SHOOTINGS by an expert marksman who used only one bullet in each SACRIFICE. Didn't Ari Fleischer just mention ONE BULLET the other day? How brazen the SATANISTS like Bush are to have warned of this event to the press the other day! You can interpret the Ari Fleischer comment now as, ONE BULLET SACRIFICES ARE COMING right near DC. I wonder how m any congressmen and senators are now SO SCARED that they will vote to take away GUNS from the citizens of the USA and leave them only in the hands of the Satanists running DC? As I mentioned above, I've written a couple of books about A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A they are below as well as links to his web site A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;http://www.Sollog.com/A A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A was heavily investigated by the FBI for his accurate 911 warning. The book I wrote about the Sollog 911 Warning is at A HREF=http://www.1ebooks.com/911; http://www.1ebooks.com/911/A The book I wrote about The Prophecies of A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A is at A HREF=http://www.1ebooks.com/prophecies;http://www.1ebooks.com/prophecies/ A A book about The Prophecies of A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A written by A
[CTRL] Fwd: The Prophecy of Bella Dodd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- -- From: Charlotte Iserbyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:56:17 -0400 To: Ann Herzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTAC-list] The Prophecy of Bella Dodd Thanks, a lot, Ann, for forwarding this important message. Have you ever read Dodd's School of Darkness. It is fascinating. Char From: Ann Herzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:52:06 -0700 To: Charlotte Iserbyt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gene Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Trotto Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: [CTAC-list] The Prophecy of Bella Dodd - Original Message - From: Steven Beverly Jankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dana Halley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ann Herzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dunning [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SHJHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:35 AM Subject: Fw: [CTAC-list] The Prophecy of Bella Dodd - Original Message - From: eens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: [CTAC-list] The Prophecy of Bella Dodd The Prophecy of Bella Dodd In light of the current confusion and moral scandal in the Church, it would be well to consider a neglected bit of recent Church history: the public testimony of Bella Dodd, who served as legal counsel to the Communist Party in the United States until her conversion to Catholicism, after which she spent the rest of her life atoning for her role in the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. An article in Christian Order magazine (November 2000) recounts how Dodd and her associate, Douglas Hyde, revealed the plan for Communist subversion of the Church. Ex-Communist and celebrated convert Douglas Hyde revealed long ago that in the 1930s the Communist leadership issued a worldwide directive about infiltrating the Catholic Church, while in the early 1950s, Mrs. Bella Dodd was also providing detailed explanations of the Communist subversion of the Church. Speaking as a former high-ranking official of the American Communist Party, Mrs. Dodd said: In the 1930s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within. The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops. A dozen years before Vatican II she stated: Right now they are in the highest places in the Church, where they were working to bring about change in order to weaken the Church's effectiveness against Communism. She also said that these changes would be so drastic that you will not recognise the Catholic Church. Dodd gave voluminous testimony on Communist infiltration of Church and State before the House UnAmerican Activities Committee in the 1950s. In a lecture at Fordham University during that time, Dodd unveiled what would seem to be an uncanny prophecy of future chaos in the Church. The lecture was attended by a monk whose account of the talk is presented in Christian Order: I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would think she was the world's greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion of the Catholic Church. She explained that of all the world's religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent. The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of the Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion:
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: for immediate release?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: for immediate release? I didnt want to be the first to spill the beans. Matt Drudge just did,so:Regarding the Washington DC sniper, the bottom line is that the first 5shootings COULD NOT have escaped the eye of more than 100 full timesurveillance cameras on Georgia, connecticut avenues and on aspen hillroad and randolph road.the pertinent authorities know who the "sniper" is because theres no waythey could not know.So what is really going on?hint: its related to present world events and especially to sellinganti-terrorism to residents of DC area who happen to work on capitolhill.kthomas A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] White House E-mail
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2002 9:46:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The e-mail was forwarded by Jennifer Hugo, an intern. Hugo did not respond to e- mail questions about the message and White House telephone operators said they could not locate Hugo. Women named Jennifer do seem to trouble the Bush family. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [NewPacifica] Re: POLITICAL RESEARCH ASSOCIATES' EDELMAN-BUNDY CONNECTION
-Caveat Lector- Hi, Comments interspaced below; In a message dated 10/13/02 10:08:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, This conspiracy theory by Bob Feldman about PRA is a good example of the lack of logic in most conspiracist tracts. There are so many fallacies of logic in this article that it could serve as an example for study in a logic class. Among the more obvious fallacies of logic are: Guilt by Association http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html Gee whizz, Let's us see how many times has Mr. Berlet used guilt by association to smear honest researchers into history? More than I can count. Sequence Implies Causation (Post Hoc) http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/post-hoc.html Feldman has failed to provide one iota of evidence to support his distorted, false, and slippery argument (which he lacks the ethics and courage to state outright) that the CIA and its wealthy agents provide funding to PRA to attack researchers that I characterize as conspiracists. Mr. Berlet is a fraud and uses smear to keep people divided. Mr. Berlet takes $700,000 dollars a year to do these activities from foundations. And you Mr. Berlet have failed many times to support your smears. How come you never answered my many questions about your fraudulent work? How about showing us some factual errors in Mr. Quiggley's section that YOU selected? How about answering my critiques of your UNFOUNDED comments on the Franklin-Cover-Up? NO comments on the ruling of a FEDERAL JUDGE in the Franklin Cover-up? Is the FEDERAL JUDGE a conspiracist? http://www.cia-drugs.com/Franklin/index.html; How about you showing us where Mike Ruppert uses longstanding right-wing conspiracist theories in his writings? Any Comments on Elite Deviance? [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written: The Franklin Cover-Up is a ridiculous book making outrageous charges about a huge abuse ring. The charges have been investigated repeatedly by the local press and little evidence has surfaced to support the book. De Camp is widely considered a crank in his own state. I suppose you dismiss the fact that he works with the LaRouchites. I think it is significant. Some members of Skull and Bones went on to do bad things. Some members of the Boy Scouts of America went on to do bad things. Some who drnk chocolate milk in their youth went on to do bad things. Some people who smoked marijuana in college went on to become heroin addicts. There is no casue and effect relationship to any of these statements. Skull and Bones does not run the world, nor does it plot to make members do bad things. Anecdote is not proof. Sequance does not imply causation. I do believe that the articles on Mr. Ruppert's website are rooted in longstanding right-wing conspiracist theories This is a false claim. I deny it. All of us at PRA deny it. How many people at PRA? Oh and Mr. Berlet what conspiracy theory do you subscribe to about the events of 9/11? The official one ... What conspiracy theroy do you subscribe to about October Surprise? The official line ... What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about the JFK assassination? The official line ... What conspiracy theory do you subscribe to about CIA-Drugs? The official line ... What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about the Franklin cover-up? The official line ... What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about Skull Bones? The official line ... I challenge everyone to diagram this article using logic to see if there is a single fact that establishes Feldman's claims. There are none. My son learned how to diagram arguments for logic in his public school 8th grade. Feldman would have received an F in that class. Try to find the link between the CIA and PRA. It is hinted at, but there is not a single fact to back it up. It is false. Draw a chart with organizations and their boards. What connects PRA to McGeorge Bundy? Is it likely that one person on a board controls the entire board? This is guilt by association. There is no connection between the CIA or McGeorge Bundy and PRA or me. In fact, this claim originates in a lawsuit filed against me by Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche lost the case. Here is another example. I thanked Progressive editor Matt Rothschild in a book I edited years ago for help he gave me in getting permissions from some of his writers to include their articles for the Progressive in the book. This is offered by Feldman to suggest that there is a conspiracy involving Matt and me to criticize conspiracists. A coincidence? Actually, yes. I have not contacted Matt in several years. The fallacy of logic here is sequence implies causation. Check it out. In fact, check out the logic websites such as: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/index.htm Many of us who criticize conspiracists do so not because the CIA is secretly funding us, but because we think the type of conspiracism
[CTRL] Voter Fraud Investigation
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ksfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=970855nav=0w0iBlP6 October 14, 2002 Voter Fraud Investigation Every vote counts - unless ballots are being cast by people who don't exist, are dead or who don't even live in South Dakota. A major case involving those voter fraud issues has been under investigation by the FBI for the past month. KSFY has learned the investigation mainly focuses on six counties including: Dewey, Pennington, Fall River, Charles Mix, Shannon and Ziebach, although there may be other counties involved. The focus of the investigation centers on absentee ballot registration requests in counties with or near Indian Reservations across South Dakota. A letter recently sent out by the Democratic Party confirms Party officials were notified about possible ballot discrepancies in Dewey County, and when notified contacted authorities immediately. According to their letter, a Democratic Party contractor, Becky Red Earth-Villeda was fired after at least two of the people she registered were found to be invalid. On October 12, we found evidence that in Ziebach County a woman somehow applied for an absentee ballot after she died. The absentee ballot application for Denise Red Horse is filled out just as it should be: she has an address, she signed where she was supposed to. The major flaw? Denise Red Horse died September 3rd in a car accident. Her application was signed September 21st, 18 days after she was killed. This is just one of the discrepancies of which Attorney General Mark Barnett has been notified and the FBI is investigating. Barnett says there was one case where the lady had apparently registered in two different counties, another case shows a lady supposedly sent in an absentee ballot some days after she was actually killed in a car accident. Red Horse's bogus application isn't the only suspicious item Ziebach County's Auditor, Cindy Longbrake has noticed in the past few weeks. She says one person filled out 150 registration cards, and she could tell they were all filled out by the same person. Longbrake says she thought, She either didn't know what she was doing or, I understand, she was getting paid to do these and she didn't care how she was doing them. There are several different politically motivated groups on and around Indian Reservations trying to register that particular population. Native Americans make up 8.3 percent of the state's population -which transfers into roughly 63-thousand residents. With close races, especially on the Senate side, every vote truly does count. According to our sister station KOTA in Rapid City, two brothers are now being investigated for turning in forged voter registration cards to the Pennington County Auditor. The auditor says most of the voter registrations were duplicates which could have been done by copying names and addresses out of a phone book. The brothers were caught after getting the voters birthdays wrong. By Shelley Keohane A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: FEDS CREATING CHAOS IN OREGON TO EXPLOIT FEAR, PROTECT FROM TERRORISTS......
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Since I am facing a similar situation, with the same lack of legal protections,I am passing this on to allow you tolearn what is happening legally with this recent high profile case which made the front page yesterday in Portland's "Oregonian". The Sheeple are being conditioned to turn in anybody by the large Heading onyesterday's Oregonianpaper. The Heading to the front page story takes up a 1/4 of the page(!!) and says, "A parking lot attendant. A bagel-maker. A devoted mother. A student of international affairs. A restaurant manager. And a guy who used to sell Mary Kay cosmetics. As new details emerge, they look more like amateurs than terrorists... IS IT POSSIBLE THEY ARE BOTH?" (That's a long heading.) A woman in Washington who called the FBI because some of the people who were arrested asked her for directions. I listened to her interview. They were wearing Moslem clothes so she said they were suspicious looking and she didn't feel good about them so she called the FBI. And this lady is being treated as a hero.(!!) Obviously the controlled establishment media wants to encourageAmerica to be asnitch society. Stalinist Russia here we come. While all the coverage of me has been totally one sided, and I too have been labelled a terrorist; I have not had the widespread attention the following big case is getting. While I know nothing of the guilt or innocence of the following people, what our attention should be drawn to is that people like this no longer have legitimate legal protection, and it is sincerely questionablewhether real guilt will ever be determined when any snitch and any rumor can be paraded as fact. It was not that long ago that people who lived behind the Iron Curtain had to live in constant fear of everyone else. Everyone ratted on everyone else. No one could enjoy life. - Original Message - From: A Voice For Children To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Ombudsman Office ; office of inspector general ; US Attorney General Ashcroft ; A Voice For Children Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: FEDS CREATING CHAOS IN OREGON TO EXPLOIT FEAR, PROTECT FROM TERRORISTS.. Today: October 13, 2002 at 11:00:14 PDT Feds Creating "Terror" to enforce agenda in Oregon No Evidence - no standard of law necessary in Fed Court Exploiting FEAR (note after AP Release) Hearsay Allowed in Conspiracy Cases By WILLIAM McCALLASSOCIATED PRESS PORTLAND, Ore.- Two key exceptions to general criminal law may allow prosecutors to use even weak evidence to build a case against a dozen suspected terrorists charged in Oregon and New York, legal scholars say. Unlike most crimes, proof of conspiracy does not require an actual crime and hearsay is allowed. "In the legal world, conspiracy is called the 'darling' of prosecutors," said Robert Precht, a University of Michigan law professor and a defense attorney in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. "It's the closest American law comes to a 'thought crime' because the paradox of conspiracy law is there need not be any crime at all," he said. Instead, all that is needed is evidence that two or more people agreed to commit a crime and took at least one step called an "overt act" - however trivial and even perfectly legal - toward planning that crime or carrying it out. "There have to be overt acts in pursuance of the conspiracy but those overt acts can be perfectly innocuous things, like getting on a plane at JFK, so you don't need a lot," said Abraham Sofaer, aStanford law professor, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and former legal adviser to the U.S. State Department.
[CTRL] UFO Sightings? Alien Abduction? Get the gear to get HOME!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.earthbounddog.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Title: UFO Sightings? Alien Abduction? Get the gear to get HOME! -Caveat Lector- Picture yourself lost in the galaxy...UFO sightings and Alien Abductions are on the rise...Will you return to tell the story? If you're abducted by aliens these dog tags may save your life. The crucial data an alien will need to get you back to Earth is die stamped into these dog tags. The design is based on NASA research for the Pioneer 10 Space Mission that used a gold plaque attached to the craft to inform any Extraterrestrials of it's Earthly origin. Die stamped with several methods of locating Earth in the Galaxy, an alien pilot does not need to understand any human language to use this information. The mathematical location of Earth in relation to several important pulsars is represented by the radial diagram. Earth's relation to the solar system is shown at the top. Also included is a schematic of Earth itself and it's major land masses. Two human icons (man and woman) are graphically connected to Earth at points in all three diagrams and are shown with their hands waving as a gesture of goodwill... see diagram at left. Here's what you get- 1. Die stamped metal Location Earth Dog Tag 2. A 24" ball chain chain with clasp! 3. One black rubber dog tag silencer (stops rattling) Ordering info- Just click on one of the orange order buttons at your left for secure ordering by credit card through Paypal. $12.99 includes shipping and handling to the lower 48 states. International shipping to selected countries. SECURE - SECURE - SECURE Hit Ctrl D to bookmark. You can also use the Mail-o-Matic link at the left to easily send this web site address to up to four of your friends. Thanks! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Implants Are REAL!! Charles Schlund Is Right!!!
-Caveat Lector- Charles Schlund is right! People are being implanted, tortured, and electronically controlled. These news articles are about people who KNOW that they have been implanted. Rather than admit that this is happening, the psychiatrists and the media simply label these victims as 'mentally ill' [e.g. 'paranoid schizophrenic']. {For those of you who are unfamiliar with Charles Schlund -- from Glendale, AZ -- do a Google search of these terms: 'Schlund' + 'Affidavit'} *This incident happened just last month! ++ Copyright 2002 San Antonio Express-News San Antonio Express-News September 6, 2002, Friday , STATE SECTION: METRO / SOUTH TEXAS; Pg. 2B Patient arrested after flare gun scare at hospital By Katherine Leal Unmuth A man at Audie Murphy VA Hospital shot two staffers with a flare gun, then holed up in a second-floor office for more than an hour Thursday before police negotiators talked him out. The man arrived around 11:30 a.m. at the hospital's mental health unit, where he shot a social worker and a psychiatrist with an orange plastic flare gun. The two women were not seriously injured. Police arrested a veteran who was being treated at the hospital for schizophrenia. His name was not immediately released. Hospital workers reported that the attacker told them he was upset that they had implanted a microchip inside him. He expressed that he felt that we had implanted something in his body that made him hear voices and he wanted it taken out, said Jose Coronado, director of the South Texas Veterans Health System. Coronado also said the man had stopped taking his medication. The man first entered the office of social worker Yvette Huerta and shot her in her left arm and chest, police said. We saw sparks coming out of the office and thought a computer was malfunctioning, said Iva Timmerman, a psychiatrist and 15-year veteran of the hospital who also was injured in the incident. Then we saw him following her. As Timmerman and others tried to get to cover, she said, the man shot her from behind. She said it felt like a racquetball bouncing off my shoulder. He was firing at people, she added. He was picking and firing. He chose people. Police evacuated about 30 people, including patients and employees, from the west wing of the building in the 7400 block of Merton Minter. The rest of the hospital remained open, Coronado said. Timmerman said schizophrenics who stop taking their medication may withdraw from society or become paranoid. Some can become violent. We can't predict violence, she said. A lot of people threaten violence and never carry it out. Police spokesman Sgt. Gabe Trevino applauded the negotiators for defusing a situation that could have developed into a much longer standoff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Staff Writer Emanuel Gonzales contributed to this report. ++ He also complained of hearing voices. He saw his name written in the snow. He believed doctors put an implant behind his ear to monitor his thoughts. Telegraph Herald (Dubuque, IA) October 7, 2001 Sunday SECTION: Pg. A6 LENGTH: 1499 words HEADLINE: Mental-health crises can get police under the gun; Bullets: Man's death raises questions on whether officers are trained to deal with unstable people BYLINE: BEN DOBBIN DATELINE: IRONDEQUOIT, N.Y. BODY: Ron Kessler walked along the suburban highway, clutching a bunch of wildflowers in one hand and a claw hammer in the other. As he went down an exit ramp, a car pulled up alongside. The young driver wondered if he needed a ride. Get away from me! Kessler barked, waving the hammer. Soon afterward, alerted to this encounter, two police officers in patrol cars appeared. Kessler, 42, who had recently stopped taking drugs to treat paranoid schizophrenia, at first ignored their orders and kept walking. Within two minutes, he lay dead on a lawn with five bullets in his chest, leg and wrist. It was the first fatal shooting by the 56-member police force in this town next to Lake Ontario. And it raised questions about how well police here - and in departments around the nation - are trained to cope when mentally ill people break the law. I saw the bullet holes, said Kessler's sister, Marlene Zazzara. They didn't have to shoot him so many times. When officers saw her brother was despondent, she said, why not try non-lethal means? Why didn't they Mace him? Why didn't they net him or call for backup? They didn't know he was trying to go get help. Tears flooded her eyes as she sat in her kitchen recalling that July morning in 1998. It was like losing a child, she said. I was his lifeline, through good, bad and indifferent. I was always there for him. Large institutions that once housed psychiatric patients began shrinking or shutting down in the second half of the 20th century as doctors switched to community care and the use of new anti-psychotic drugs. One result was that police increasingly have found themselves
[CTRL] Let my people go, eh?
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U-S-A] Liberty for White Israelites So what do you think, Willie? You White Israelites believe this code is at the foundation of your faith. Is spirituality-morality somehow linked biologically to your white genes? Or is it more linked to Cohen Y chromosome genes? If so, is it more linked to the Y genes of Jewish or Christian Cohens? (There was a story on a Christian Cohen in BC Christian Info News, monthly tabloid, a couple of years ago). Can genetic engineering help you White Israelites to become more holy, eg by splicing out the unholy genes and splicing in more holy genes? Look I can go on with this parody until hell freezes over. Are you ready to concede that It is the spirit that quickeneth; the body profiteth nothing (Red Letters)? If you want a nation under God and in service to God, you will have to get there by articulating the spiritual-moral nature of such a nation...and it ain't U-S-A. Perhaps you can plan to flee to LIBERTY with your White Israelites to the Great Confederacy north of the 49th. parallel. Just think of us'all as Dixie North. Let my people go, eh? POC PS-A recent poll reported last night on CTV News tells us 4:10 Americans think they should annex Canada. The next poll should ask how many Canadians think Dixie North should annex America. First we liberate Alaska, then. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:22:19 -0700 From: John D Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Christianity-Revealed] The Universal Moral Code This introductory letter on the Torah's universal moral code was inspired by my correspondence with a person in India, who expressed an interest in studying those teachings and precepts of the Torah which apply to all human beings: Dear Friends, The breakdown of traditional moral values has become a major issue of discussion and debate in contemporary western society. If we are to discuss this issue from the perspective of Jewish tradition, we need to be aware that, according to the Torah, there is a universal moral code which is the legacy of all the peoples of the earth. This moral code has seven basic precepts which are known as the Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah. The Talmud (Sanhedrin 56b) states that these precepts were first taught to humanity at the very dawn of human history, beginning with Adam and Eve; however, this code was reaffirmed during the generation of Noah, after the flood, and it therefore became known as the Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah. The Seven Mitzvos are the following: 1. the mandate to establish courts of justice 2. the prohibition against cursing the Divine Name 3. the prohibition against idolatry - the deification of any object, being, or power other than the One God 4. the prohibition against murder 5. the prohibition against immoral sexual relations such as incest, adultery, homosexual intercourse between two males, and intercourse with animals 6. the prohibition against theft 7. the prohibition against eating a limb severed from a living animal Each of these seven precepts actually contain many of the 613 mitzvos which are incumbent upon Jews. For example, in the classical compendium of the 613 mitzvos known as Sefer Ha-Chinuch, we find the following comments regarding the 416th mitzva - the prohibition, You shall not covet (Deuteronomy 5:18): This prohibition applies at all times, in all places, to both men and women, and to all human beings. This is so because it is part of the prohibition against stealing, which is one of the Seven Mitzvos that all human beings are to observe. Make no mistake concerning the enumeration of the Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah - these being well-known and recorded in the Talmud - for they are but categories, and they contain many particulars. The Sefer Ha-Chinuch points out that since the Children of Noah were adjured about stealing, they were equally adjured about all Torah decrees to keep a person far away from stealing, such as the decree, You shall not covet. According to Jewish tradition, a human being who fulfills the teachings and precepts of the universal code has achieved a high spiritual level, and Maimonides writes: Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these Seven Mitzvos and is precise in their observance is considered one of the chassidei umos ha'olam - the righteous among the nations - and will merit a share in the World to Come ( The Laws of Kings 8:11). Maimonides adds that humanity must also recognize that the Seven Mitzvos were reaffirmed with the giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai.
[CTRL] WARNING! Mind Control Implants Cause Crime!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Fahy told Cambria that he has chips implanted in his head Newsday (New York, NY) February 2, 2002 Saturday QUEENS EDITION SECTION: NEWS, Pg. A13 LENGTH: 472 words HEADLINE: Injured Cop Released From Hospital BYLINE: By Sean Gardiner; STAFF WRITER BODY: A police officer shot in the leg during a standoff in Rockaway Park was released from a Queens hospital Friday while the emotionally disturbed teenager accused of shooting him was in a psychiatric ward, awaiting arraignment. Officer Kevin Boyle, 43, of Massapequa Park, was released from Jamaica Hospital Medical Center Friday after being treated for a gunshot wound to his left calf. The 18-year-old man accused of shooting him Thursday, Timothy Fahy, remained at Kings County Hospital Center Friday night undergoing psychiatric evaluation, police said. Police sources said Fahy has a history of emotional problems and it's believed that on Thursday he had stopped taking his medicine, Risperdal, a drug used to treat schizophrenia. Police officials had also heard, but were unable to confirm, that Fahy's brother had been on television news receiving a scholastic award that night and that caused an already unstable Fahy to go off. Officials from the Queens district attorney's office said Fahy will be charged with attempted murder, attempted aggravated assault and criminal possession of a weapon. It was uncertain Friday night when arraignment would take place. Officials said it was also still unclear how Fahy obtained the .38-caliber Smith Wesson handgun used to shoot Boyle and graze the right ankle of another officer, Keith Papsodero. The incident started just before 6 p.m. when Fahy's grandfather, Martin Fahy, called 911 to report that his grandson had been acting aggressively and was armed with a baseball bat. When police arrived at the Fahys' two-story home at 121-07 Newport Ave., they found the grandfather struggling with the teen. When Timothy Fahy spotted police he locked himself in a bathroom. After Martin Fahy, a retired detective, accounted for the two guns he keeps in the house, the officers tried to get Timothy Fahy out of the bathroom. After an hour, police used a sledgehammer to break a hole in the door and, through the hole, stunned Fahy with a Taser gun. Fahy then blindly fired two shots through the hole, hitting Boyle and grazing Papsodero, police said. Lt. Jack Cambria, head of the police department's Hostage Negotiation Unit, then was called in. Over the next two hours, Fahy told Cambria that he has chips implanted in his head, the television set talks to him and he feels his parents don't love him anymore, a police source said. Just before 9 p.m., Cambria persuaded Fahy to surrender. Thank God the officer was only injured in the leg, said City Councilman Joseph Addabbo, who visited Boyle in the hospital Thursday night and then went to the scene. It could have been a lot worse. Police sources said it appears that Fahy had been receiving treatment for mental illness at St. John's Episcopal Hospital in Far Rockaway. = According to court papers filed by prosecutors, Campbell had traveled from Georgia to the Pentagon because he believed the U.S. government had implanted a mind-controlling computer chip in his brain. Campbell believed the government -- most likely the CIA -- was trying to change his thinking and using his mind without his approval, wrote Assistant U.S. Attorney W. Neil Hammerstrom Jr., who handled the government's case. The Washington Post November 17, 1994, Thursday, Final Edition SECTION: METRO; PAGE C8 LENGTH: 555 words HEADLINE: Insanity Ruling Issued In Slaying at Pentagon; Mental Patient Killed Navy Commander in '91 SERIES: Occasional BYLINE: Bill Miller, Washington Post Staff Writer BODY: Carl E. Campbell, the longtime mental patient who shot and killed a Navy commander three years ago outside the Pentagon, was found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity yesterday after doctors concluded he was having delusions when he opened fire. The sudden, brazen killing of Cmdr. Edward J. Higgins, 42, which took place in broad daylight on a bright spring day, stunned Pentagon workers. Higgins, a 21-year Navy veteran and father of two, was shot as he waited along with several other passengers for a shuttle bus in a parking lot south of the Pentagon. The bus stop is about half a block from the busy Pentagon Metro station. Yesterday's ruling, which followed a brief hearing before Judge Albert V. Bryan Jr. in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, means that Campbell, 30, could be freed from a federal psychiatric facility if he ever recovers from his mental illness. However, a psychologist recently determined that Campbell remains seriously ill. We will oppose any attempt to release him, U.S. Attorney Helen F. Fahey said. We consider him a danger to society. Campbell, of Manchester, Ga., was arrested immediately after the attack on May 30, 1991, and
[CTRL] Two Little Boys!!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/thompsonvenables.html Robert Thompson and Jon Venables: Great Britain's Infamous Ten-Year-Old Kidnappers by Sky Ryan "Come on, baby," Jon Venables urged pulling toddler James Bulger by the hand. Jons best chum, Robert Thompson, walked a few feet in front of them leading the way out the front glass doors of the Bootle Strand Shopping Center just outside Liverpool, England. Venables and Thompson had been "sagging" (British for playing hooky) that chilly afternoon in February of 1993. The two schoolboys were close friends as well as disreputable rabble-rousers from broken homes. Jon and Robert spent that morning and early part of the afternoon goofing around the Bootle Strand on a shoplifting high. The wily imps managed to smuggle all kinds of crap out of several businesses without getting caught. Among the items they ripped off were batteries, candy, toy soldiers, magic markers, blue paint, and a troll doll for Roberts collection. Several hours into pocketing small stuff, Jon and Robert grew bored of their spree. They agreed to move onto stealing something far more valuable than merchandise in a store, something sure to give them a bigger rush: a real, live baby. A little after three oclock when they should have been getting out of school, Venables and Thompson strolled nonchalantly through the mall in search of a smaller unsupervised kid. It didnt take long for Satan to lead them to James Bulger -- a preschooler playing alone with cigarette butts in an ashtray outside the malls butcher shop. Baby James had wandered away from his young mum just a minute before Jon and Robert approached him. As the naughty truants hastily lured Bulger out of the galleria, his mother Denise chit-chatted away in the long, crowded line of the butchers, unaware her son had vanished. Not until she finished making her purchase did Mrs. Bulger notice her only child was gone from her side. She called out for him in the shop and asked strangers all around if they had seen a two-year-old with blond hair wearing a blue anorak. Nobody she approached had. She then tracked down security guards, who announced Jamess disappearance over the speakers. Denise and the guards searched for Jamie throughout the plaza for a full half hour. At 4:15 p.m., they called police to report him missing. By the time authorities got to the mall to interview Jamess mum, hed been led nearly a mile away by his abductors. Bulger became fussy within the first few minutes he was dragged between Robert and Jon. As soon as he would whine for his mummy and try to stop walking, the older lads would force him to go on, punching, kicking, and shaking him til hed cooperate. Venables and Thompson wandered around town for about ninety minutes with Jamie, covering a two mile radius. During those ninety minutes, they took Bulger into a couple of stores, including a pet shop and bakery. They also yanked him down a grassy slope to a canal under a bridge where they got a kick out of dangling him upside down and dropping him on his head. A few minutes into that particular torture game, Jon and Robert stopped themselves from having too much fun. It wasnt quite dark yet and they knew someone could easily peer down the hill and discover them hurting a baby. So Jon carried the bruised and whimpering James in his arms, following his leader up the bank. When they reached the hilltop, they adjusted Jamies coat and scarf to cover as much of his swollen face as possible, then roamed about town for a bit longer until nightfall. At 5:30, when they felt it was finally dark enough, Venables and Thompson took Bulger to one of their favorite play spots -- some railroad tracks -- where they knocked Baby to the ground and stomped on his tummy and chest. Jon opened the jar of bright blue paint hed pocketed earlier and splashed it across the tykes face. Robert removed Bulgers shoes and pants, then inserted the stolen AAA batteries into his rectum. One of them spotted a two-foot long heavy iron pipe nearby, which they used to bash their toy tots brains in. They also found bricks to hurl at him. When Bulgers body went stiff, Jon took him by the legs while Robert got hold of the torso. They carried James directly over the railroad tracks and laid him down so that his upper half was off the tracks, while his naked legs were on them. They left before the train came. ** Later
[CTRL] Henry Makow
-Caveat Lector- NOTE: :http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/bankers.htmlInternational bankers live in fear. Not of starvation, disease, or war. These are the concerns of children in the Third World. Bankers are terrified we might object to paying them billions each year in interest for money they create out of nothing, guaranteed by our taxes. (The Federal Reserve Board, a private cartel of mostly foreign banks, finagled this monopoly in 1913.) The bankers are frightened that, like the homeless man's dog, we might say "I can do this myself." They are scared the government might go even further and "default" on trillions of make-believe "debt." They are frightened of losing "control." In order to sleep more soundly, the bankers have taken "steps." These precautions help us to understand the world we live in, why it is becoming safer for bankers but less safe and more bizarre for everyone else. First, people with money machines tend to have a lot of friends. The bankers helped their friends establish monopolies in oil, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, transportation, media, etc. and took a healthy stake. As you can imagine, these people are thick as thieves. Lawyers, journalists and intellectuals all vie for a piece of the action. (Servicing this cartel of cartels is what passes for success these days.) The bankers' first precaution is to buy all the politicians. The second is to buy the major media outlets in order to promote the illusion politicians make decisions and represent our interests. The third precaution is to take control of the education system, ensuring that people stop thinking at an early age. Then the bankers use the government and media to convince us that religion, nationalism, and nuclear family are unfashionable, and we want what they want. We "want" world government ("globalisation"). The bankers need to eliminate nation states, freedom and democracy in order to streamline their business and consolidate their power. The UN, the IMF and World Bank, -- glorified loan sharks and collectors -- will make the laws. We "want" diversity. Countries are not allowed to maintain their national identities or traditions. Last Christmas, Gary Doer, my provincial premier tried to rename the Christmas tree at the legislature a "multicultural tree." Diversity is respecting every culture but our own. Every nation must be heterogeneous and disparate as a box of Smarties not one of them in a position to challenge the bankers. Or take "feminism." Masquerading as equal rights for women, this Marxist Lesbian ideology is designed to destroy the nuclear family (the basic building block of society) by undermining paternal authority. Cultural differences between men and women are not "stereotypes." But signatories to the latest UN "CEDAW" Convention (recently passed by the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee) will be required to "take all appropriate measures to modify all social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women." (Article 5) This kind of Communist-inspired social engineering is simply persecution of heterosexuals. It is intended to arrest our natural development: the birth rate has halved while the divorce rate has doubled. An army of highly paid lawyers, social workers and bureaucrats treat the casualties. These self-serving do-gooders are the bankers' biggest constituency. People --stunted, love-starved, and sex-obsessed -- without family, religious or national identity, are easy to control. (They'll join anything; they are looking for a family.) But in case of resistance, the bankers have created a bogeyman, "terrorism" to justify a huge security apparatus. The Office of Homeland Security is designed to control us -- the domestic population. Why would this be necessary? We're "in debt" trillions of dollars and the bankers intend that we pay. One day they will take away our toys. In case it's a problem, an Orwellian police state will be in place. But first, the Muslims must be subjugated and robbed. Talking about the United States as if it were an independent country is silly. American politicians pawned U.S. sovereignty in 1913. Ever since, U.S. soldiers have been bullyboys for international bankers, and nothing else. The American taxpayer and soldier made the First World War possible. It started just six months after the establishment of the "Fed". Its purpose was to increase debt, cripple the great European nation states, slaughter a generation, and establish two of the bankers' pet projects: Communism (Russia) and Zionism
[CTRL] Bush warned taiwan of attack..told them to keep it a secret
-Caveat Lector- Groups AdvancedGroupsSearchPreferencesGroups Help View with frames Sorted by replySort by date All messages from thread "Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack" Message 1 in threadFrom: Yu ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-13 23:37:51 PST According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. Post a follow-up to this message Message 2 in threadFrom: Harrison X. Numbugger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Re: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-14 03:43:40 PST Yu wrote: According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? it was probably a US operation. Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. -- "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials "Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872. Post a follow-up to this message Message 3 in threadFrom: Mahakala ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: Re: Questions about Bali Terrorist Attack View this article onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-14 04:22:12 PST "Harrison X. Numbugger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Yu wrote: According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? it was probably a US operation. Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up international support for his attack on Iraq. -- "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials "Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg.
[CTRL] Aussies suspicious of US
-Caveat Lector- 10/13/02 10:14:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time Dear Jeff, Just a few weeks ago many Australians saw a TV interview with a somewhat gruff US Ambassador to OZ who, seemingly upset with the prevalent (majority) popular objection of Australian citizens to Australia's involvement in the planned US military invasion of Iraq (or "Regime Change" as it has become known in extant "Poli-Speak"), warned us that Australia was not immune to Al Qaeda style terrorist action. Crazy as it seems at first sight many who saw this interview gleaned his attitudeto actually be an unspoken but implied threat of terrorist action if we did not mend our wayward non-compliantattitudes Our OZ ways have included a rising anguish at the treatment of the Palestinians by the forces of Israel as directed by Sharon and supported by Bush, AND a very widespread and fast setting viewagainst helping in the US plans for a military invasion of Iraq, coupled with an increasing anger at the new Pax Americana planetary policies of Dubya's USA. Meanwhile in Europethe Germans were fighting an internal political election battle over Yes-No re support for the planned US military invasion of Iraq. The NO side won and Germany came down solidly against any involvement in, or UN support for, the planned US-Iraq war.Similarly France held out against the USA and, although willing to support renewed UN site investigations, refused to back the US demand for stronger UN resolutionsthat would automatically lead via a short fuse to a rapid UN supported war on Iraq. Reportedlythe vast majority of other European populations are also dead set against this new US war. Not only these peoples but also a very large percentage of Britons are similarly dis-interested in this new American game - with it's very real risk of devolution into World War III. Then within a few days we were presented with fresh Al Jazeera TV announcements (a) that Osama bin Laden (aka they seek him here - they seek him there - the elusive pimpernel) was alive and well, and (2) a message -reportedly from another Al Qaeda Chief - threatening terrorist attacks against both French and German interests. These news items were immediately followed by a terrorist attack -an explosive laden motor boat against a French Super-Tanker off the coast of Yemen. Back in OZ we simultaneously experienced nation wide TV warnings by oneRohan Gunaratna, the author of "Inside Al Qaeda". This previously unknown to us "expert on terrorism"issued a specific warningthat Al Qaeda members have been trained to destroy targets in Australia,stating thathe'd been given the information during debriefings of captured Al Qaeda members. Amazing how this author got access to these prisoners - the most tightly held since the Gulag Archipelago - and national TV airtime across OZ - he must have some very interesting connections.. Then last night there occurred the horrendous and despicable terrorist bombings of two night clubs in Bali - frequented predominantly byholidaying Australians. First reports talk of +182 dead (with the count expected to climb) plus hundreds wounded including many horribly burned. These casualtiesinclude many young Australian, English, German, Dutch, and Indonesian-Balinese. Just what sort of "Muslim Terrorist" threatens to bomb the persons and interests of people who are basically for Human Rights in Palestine and against the US Dubya Bush plans for an invasion of Iraq ??? What sort of IDIOT would then do so and thereby ruin this genuine grass roots support for their cause within Germany, France, Britain, Holland etc, and Australia ??? Strangely unlike the Northern Irish or Basque terrorist actions these latest bombings of people and assets have NOT been followed by any public claims of authorship and their cause. However this omission has been corrected by our Australian TV which has been running pictures of Saddam Hussein andlinking the blasts to Al Qaeda or off-shoot SE Asian Muslim organisations - throughout tonight's Bali Bombing News slots. We are told tonight by our new ABC "terrorist guru" - Rohan Gunaratna - that "ONLY Al Qadea have the intention and ability to carryout such terrorist bombings as that in Bali"... I seem to recall an almost identical line being spunon US TV - just minutes after the 9-11New York Twin Trade Tower incidents . ONLY AL QAEDA can do this - NO ONE else - do not forget this viewers !!! Obviously the Al Qaeda group lack quality spin doctors and planners amongst their other key personnel - the ones with the "sole planetary ability to mount such terrorist attacks" - since better strategic planning would presumably strike real enemies of the Muslim or Iraqi world - not their potential or real allies. Equally obviously such claims that Al Qaeda are the ONLY possible sources of such terrorism are
Re: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/14/02 7:17:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is total and complete bullshit! Utterly bullshit. Idiotic psychoreligious paranoia. Typical of screwed up brains like Shannon's. You sure are hostile!! Take a handful of Seconal and wash it down with a bottle of Manichevitz why don't ya? Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [global_news_net] GNN - SETTLER VIOLENCE IN HEBRON
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[CTRL] Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=1324 BREAKING: ILLUMINATI DEFECTOR DETAILS PERVASIVE CONSPIRACY. By World-Class Author Henry Makow, Ph.D. Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy Satanic Cult Plans "Fourth Reich" By Henry Makow, Ph.D If you detect the devil's hand in current events, you may be closer to the truth than you think. A woman who was raised in the Illuminati cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising 1% of the U.S. population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast "the war on terror" and "homeland security" in a new light. "Svali" is the pseudonym of a woman, age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert power and agenda. She describes a sadistic Satanic cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely homosexual and pedophile, practices animal sacrifice and ritual murder. It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist (German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/40931) It may be behind political assassination, and "terrorism," including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast. It has infiltrated government on a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions; religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics. One other detail: these people are not very happy. Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists, and suggests that much of the world "elite" may be engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy. In March 2000, Svali began writing a monthly column for survivors of Illuminati ritual abuse at Suite101.com. (http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/ritual_abuse) In December 2000, H.J. Springer, the editor of CentrExNews,com contacted Svali and conducted an extended 18-part interview with her by email, which is reproduced on line and is copyrighted. (http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/Svali/archive.html) "I am convinced she is the real McCoy," Springer wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email messages to her from other members ritually abused, brainwashed, raped, sexually abused people you name it-- some of them confirming to me her story. So I have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of the Illuminati since childhood." I also trust Svali's testimony because it confirms my intuition and research. Everything fits: from the dead hand that seems to suppress humanity to why Clinton gave secret technology to the Chinese to reports of concentration camps in the US. It explains why certain people I know behave in a conspiratorial way. I thank Svali for giving me a frightening but incredible key to understanding the world. A friend warned me to be skeptical of a hoax and offered to help me confirm her personal story. I accepted his offer. I urge you to read her entire testimony and make up your own mind. Read "Part One" to "Part 18" first, starting at the middle of the list and working up. With their permission, here are highlights of Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J. Springer. I have also included material from her article "Are the Illuminati Taking Over the World?" (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556) Pervasive Presence Svali: "The Illuminati are present in every major metropolitan center in the United States. The Illuminati believe in controlling an area through its: banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local government: guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law: children are encouraged to go to law school and medical school. Media: others are encouraged to go to journalism school, and members help fund local papers. Beliefs Svali: "The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set" I do know that these people teach and
[CTRL] Micro Nuke Used in Bali Terrorist Lookalike Attack - Zionists forcing Australi
-Caveat Lector- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/nuke/bali_nuke.htm Micro Nuke Used in Bali âTerroristâ Lookalike Attack Zionists forcing Australian support for American war on Iraq Copyright Joe Vialls, 14 October 2002 At 11.05 p.m. local time on Saturday night, a giant blast scattered pieces of the Sari Nightclub right across Kuta Beach in Bali, Indonesia. Though two other synchronized blasts shook the American Consulate and a Philippines travel agency office at exactly the same time, there were no injuries or deaths at these other locations, both of which served as mere âflash cardsâ to reinforce the unexpected presence of âAl Qaedaâ in this beautiful tourist paradise. Al who? So far as I am aware, the Muslim world does not yet have access to a sophisticated âSpecial Atomic Demolition Munitions [SADM]â, one of which certainly went critical in a sewer more than four feet below the road bed outside the Sari club. Within five microseconds of detonation the awesome million-foot-per-second shock wave hurled two tons of road bed and sand particles upwards and outward in a deadly fan, cutting tourists to bloody ribbons and hurling body parts for several blocks. The body count is currently 187, with more than 300 injured. The blast from this weapon was so severe that its detonation terminally damaged 47 buildings in the immediate area, and trashed more than one hundred vehicles. In the words of a tourist who earlier survived attacks on London during the nineties, âI felt my hotel shake violently and ran to look out of the window. In the distance I could see a large white mushroom cloud, and knew I wasnât looking at an ordinary attack.â Photographic evidence proving the use of an unconventional weapon was edited out almost immediately by the major media, though not from the amateur video camera which provided the picture at top center above. It alone shows the deep crater being probed by Indonesian police and military with a [very long] pole. The very presence of the crater itself proves the weapon was detonated sub-surface, while the craterâs depth in combination with its diameter, prove the depth at which the weapon was initially placed. Anyone doubting the nuclear identity of this weapon should take a look at the biggest car bombs detonated in Northern Ireland during the thirty years of trouble, which ranged in size up to 1,000 pounds of conventional explosive. None of them left craters in the road, because simple physics dictate that shock waves always takes the line of least resistance â largely outwards and upwards to atmosphere. Nor am I aware of any 1,000 pound IRA car bomb trashing 47 buildings and 100 vehicles An equally valid example would be the Israeli destruction of Arafatâs compound in Ramallah. Overall, the Jewish State took more than a week to trash significantly fewer than 47 buildings, despite the fact they were brazenly attacking every day with multiple 120-mm tank guns and Hellfire missiles. It is factual information like this that helps us to analyze the available evidence at the crime scene, in order to determine which weapon or weapons were used, and hopefully by whom. At the very minimum the damage caused in the Kuta Beach area would require an 8,000 pound HE blast-bomb of the sort used on London during the Second World War. Problem! How on earth do you squeeze 8,000 pounds of very bulky low-specific-gravity HE into a twelve-inch diameter sewerage pipe, located nearly five feet underground? Obviously what you need is a specialized weapon significantly less than twelve inches in diameter, but with a blast capability significantly in excess of 8,000 pounds of conventional explosive. Believe me people, there is only one weapon for the job, which explains why you will probably never see the damning crater picture at the top of this page anywhere else. The actual photograph of SADM shown below is of an early version nominally rated at 10 tons TNT equivalent. More recent variants are as small as a coffee mug, though still very heavy, and have explosive yields ranging from 2 to 100 tons TNT equivalent. Nations possessing such weapons include America, Britain, France, Israel and Russia, with China a distinct possibility. In turn, under top-secret defense agreements with one of more of the above nations, certain Commonwealth and other countries maintain a strictly limited stock of âproxy weaponsâ on their own sovereign territory. Bearing in mind the fact that Bali is a hugely popular destination for Australians, many of whom were killed in the blast, the attack seems aimed at shifting Australian public opinion towards an attack on Iraq, or even an attack on Islam in general. Until now most Australians have been loudly opposed to any premeditated strike on the Middle East, to the point where the only people in Australia blatantly playing âRamboâ and apparently obeying the American Zionists without question, are Prime
[CTRL] Al Martin: The BUDsterization of America by the Bush Cabal
-Caveat Lector- http://www.almartinraw.com/column75.html The BUDsterization of America by the Bush Cabal by Al Martin (October 14) The BUDsterization of America is almost finished. Because of Bushonomics, the American people are becoming BUDsterized. They are in other words, Broke, Useless and Depressed, i.e. BUDsters. This was a phrase I created which was popularized for a while and then everybody started using it. People would call in on radio talk shows and say, "Al, I've been BUDsterized." And everybody knew what they meant. The rallies in the market continue to be fake-out rallies and we recommended shorting into it. Those who followed our advice did very well by the end of the week. The sell off has come from what we previously reported - concerns for underfunded fixed pension schemes at US corporations. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler have admitted that the arrearages in their fixed pension systems are billions more than initially reported. This then leads to this thought -- how many other corporations are there with fixed pension plans, which are dramatically underfunded because the Reagan Bush/ Bush II Regimes purposely allowed corporations to skirt the law when it came to their pension contributions in exchange for large campaign donations to the RNC? The other upcoming problem is the enormous amount of money that has been lost by the individual state, county, and munuipal pension systems. As CALPERS (California State Pension System) itself admitted, it may take decades to recover. There is no longer enough pension money in the states to pay out the pensions in the years to come. The states are left with some very unpalatable choices-either cut pension benefits (reduce pensions) or, for the first time since the Great Depression, states are going to have to use general tax revenue to subsidize pension systems. There isn't any money left. The money has been transferred to shadowy offshore Republican controlled accounts that were short the markets. There literally isn't any money left in the country. Since the markets are a zero sum game, where has the liquidity gone? The liquidity has gone to Republican controlled offshore trading accounts, which will then be buying back stocks at ten cents on the dollar. It's the old Bushonian trick. The government, through its own economic malfeasance, takes everything down, then the Bush Cabal who were short the whole time (all the money got transferred to them) then repatriate the money and buy everything back for ten cents on the dollar. It's a great scheme. The Bush Cabalists accounts grow fat as the markets crash. Pro-Gov Net Media (Pro-Government Network Media) has consistently been marching out the same old mutual fund guys aligned with the Republican Party or the same old analysts who work for firms that are aligned with the Republicans who kept saying, "Buy, buy, buy." More recently, however, they're bringing out analysts who actually know what they're talking about and who are not politically aligned. They present information, which echoes what we've been saying. Everyday, the situation has become more dire. As we had previously predicted and as the White House finally confirmed, the US Government will now move to a cheap dollar policy in an effort to stimulate exports. Of course, this has always proved to be a bad idea in the past. When the US Government has purposely tried to cheapen the dollar, it has always boomeranged on them. The reason why the Bush Administration wants to do it is to spur export growth. The Bush Administration has admitted that when you cheapen the dollar you create an inflationary implication. Insofar as inflation is already so low and we are suffering from a global deflation, they're not worried about the inflationary impact. But there's a two-fold negative when you cheapen the dollar - the other negative is that you cause an exodus of foreign money out of your own country when you cheapen your own currency. This is foreign money, which our government relies on almost 100% in order to finance its ever-increasing federal budget deficits. This money leaving means that this in itself could push interest rates higher. The government has the ability to create an artificial demand for money. In other words, it's not a demand for money created through an increase in gross domestic product or an increase in consumer spending. It is being generated by our ever-increasing needs to finance debt. It's an artificial demand created through deficit financing. If you cheapen your own currency and chase that money out of your own country, that money isn't going to be so quick to come back again -- unless you make it worthwhile. Money flows to where it is best treated, so the United States would have to figure in a "risk premium" if they want that money back. Therefore interest rates would have to rise. The coupon rate that US Treasuries pay are now at forty year lows and they would have to rise in order to
[CTRL] New Clues In God's Banker (Roberto Calvi) Death
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,811240,00.html New clue turns up in 'God's banker' death Philip Willan in Rome Monday October 14, 2002 The Guardian Italian investigators have discovered a safety deposit box belonging to Roberto Calvi some 20 years after "God's banker" was found hanging from scaffolding under Blackfriars Bridge in London. The safety deposit box, held at a Milan branch of the Banco Ambrosiano of which Calvi was chairman, reportedly contained a builder's brick, newspaper articles dating from the summer of 1981 and documents which police hope will help them to solve the puzzle of the banker's death. One mystery they will seek to clarify is how the bank safe remained unnoticed for all these years. It was registered in the names of Calvi and his mother and in recent years had been under the control of one of his brothers, Leone. The safe reportedly came to light two weeks ago and investigators have since searched four properties belonging to Leone Calvi for further clues. The Banco Ambrosiano chairman was found hanged in London in 1982 following the £770m collapse of his bank in a financial scandal that implicated the Vatican, the Mafia and international Freemasonry. Investigators said that the brick, wrapped in a copy of the newspaper Corriere della Sera, could constitute a cryptic reference to the Freemasons, as well as recalling the brick fragments that were found on Calvi's body - in his pockets and stuffed down the front of his trousers. "That brick could be a warning, a message in code," an unnamed investigator told the Rome daily Il Messaggero. Calvi's son, Carlo, expressed astonishment yesterday at the discovery. "That safety deposit box should have been handed over from the beginning. Something hasn't worked as it should have done within the bank, and I would like to know the reason why," he told the Rome daily La Repubblica. Rome prosecutors are awaiting the results of a fresh post-mortem examination of the banker's body, which is expected to confirm that he was murdered. In 1997 they charged several Mafiosi and a Sardinian businessman, Flavio Carboni, with complicity in his murder. Mafia turncoats have accused the self-confessed Mafia boss Francesco Di Carlo, who lived in the UK, of strangling Calvi to punish him for absconding with some of Cosa Nostra's money. Mr Di Carlo, who is himself now collaborating with the investigators, denies the charge. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President
-Caveat Lector- Sunday Herald - 15 September 2002 Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President By Neil Mackay A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001. The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC). The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.' The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'. This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'. The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'. The PNAC report also: · refers to key allies such as the UK as 'the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership'; · describes peace-keeping missions as 'demanding American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations'; · reveals worries in the administration that Europe could rival the USA; · says 'even should Saddam pass from the scene' bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently -- despite domestic opposition in the Gulf regimes to the stationing of US troops -- as 'Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq has'; · spotlights China for 'regime change' saying 'it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia'. This, it says, may lead to 'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China'; · calls for the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US; · hints that, despite threatening war against Iraq for developing weapons of mass destruction, the US may consider developing biological weapons -- which the nation has banned -- in decades to come. It says: 'New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool'; · and pinpoints North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes and says their existence justifies the creation of a 'world-wide command-and-control system'. Tam Dalyell, the Labour MP, father of the House of Commons and one of the leading rebel voices against war with Iraq, said: 'This is garbage from right-wing think-tanks stuffed with chicken-hawks -- men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war. 'This is a blueprint for US world domination -- a new world order of their making. These are the thought processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world. I am appalled that a British Labour Prime Minister should have got into bed with a crew which has this moral standing.' A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no
Re: [CTRL] Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Good grief - read this. William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=1324 BREAKING: ILLUMINATI DEFECTOR DETAILS PERVASIVE CONSPIRACY. By World-Class Author Henry Makow, Ph.D. Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy Satanic Cult Plans "Fourth Reich" By Henry Makow, Ph.D If you detect the devil's hand in current events, you may be closer to the truth than you think. A woman who was raised in the Illuminati cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising 1% of the U.S. population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast "the war on terror" and "homeland security" in a new light. "Svali" is the pseudonym of a woman, age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert power and agenda. She describes a sadistic Satanic cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely homosexual and pedophile, practices animal sacrifice and ritual murder. It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist (German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/40931) It may be behind political assassination, and "terrorism," including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast. It has infiltrated government on a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions; religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics. One other detail: these people are not very happy. Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists, and suggests that much of the world "elite" may be engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy. In March 2000, Svali began writing a monthly column for survivors of Illuminati ritual abuse at Suite101.com. (http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/ritual_abuse) In December 2000, H.J. Springer, the editor of CentrExNews,com contacted Svali and conducted an extended 18-part interview with her by email, which is reproduced on line and is copyrighted. (http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/Svali/archive.html) "I am convinced she is the real McCoy," Springer wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email messages to her from other members ritually abused, brainwashed, raped, sexually abused people you name it-- some of them confirming to me her story. So I have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of the Illuminati since childhood." I also trust Svali's testimony because it confirms my intuition and research. Everything fits: from the dead hand that seems to suppress humanity to why Clinton gave secret technology to the Chinese to reports of concentration camps in the US. It explains why certain people I know behave in a conspiratorial way. I thank Svali for giving me a frightening but incredible key to understanding the world. A friend warned me to be skeptical of a hoax and offered to help me confirm her personal story. I accepted his offer. I urge you to read her entire testimony and make up your own mind. Read "Part One" to "Part 18" first, starting at the middle of the list and working up. With their permission, here are highlights of Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J. Springer. I have also included material from her article "Are the Illuminati Taking Over the World?" (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556) Pervasive Presence Svali: "The Illuminati are present in every major metropolitan center in the United States. The Illuminati believe in controlling an area through its: banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local government: guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law: children are encouraged to go to law school and medical school. Media: others are encouraged to go to journalism school, and members help fund local papers. Beliefs Svali: "The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set" I
[CTRL] pornography, memory, sniper, clergy abuse, body stolen
-Caveat Lector- this may be very heavy for survivors New Face for Pornography - Authority Figures Caught in âCandyman' Internet Porn Ring By Bryan Robinson 3/19 - "...arrests in "Operation Candyman" revealed a growing marketplace for child pornography and a different kind of pornographer: the seemingly upstanding citizen who could be anyone, including a parish priest or a school bus driveraccording to federal law enforcement officials, many of those arrested in the government's year-long sting operation on a Internet child porn ring set up by an e-mail group called "Candyman" included members of the clergy, teachers, law enforcement officers and others entrusted with caring for children. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/netporn020318.html from Backlash - Nearly 4 years after an event: Children's eyewitness memory and adults'perceptions of children's accuracy. Goodman GS, Batterman-Faunce JM, Schaaf JM, Kenney R Child Abuse Negl 2002 Aug; 26(8):849-84 "Children were generally resistant to suggestions that abuse occurred during a long-ago generally forgotten event, but some potentially concerning errors were made." From: Department of Psychology, University of California-Davis, 95616, USA. fyi only - Maryland Shootings a Satanic Sacrifice! Map of Shootings Shows Cross of Satan Written By D.E. Alexander http://www.247news.net/2002/20021004-mdshootings.shtml Independent inquiry clears Australia's most senior Catholic cleric of sex abuse Allegations Mike Corder, 10/14/02 Sydney, Australia (AP) - Australia's most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Sydney Archbishop George Pell, has been cleared of sex abuse allegations, the church said."http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2002/10/14/international0615EDT0483.DTL Voodoo Furor in Body Snatch by Jamie Schram and Brad Hunter 10/10/02 - "cops say members of the Afro-Cuban Palo Mayombe cult stole his body from its crypt in January 1999 for use in perverted religious ceremonies." "Officials said there has been a rash of body thefts in the area and they worry that Palo - an offshoot of Santeria - is spreading." http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/59392.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] British envoy `proud' of critical comments made against Israel
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Cheshvan 9, 5763 http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=219662contrassI D=2subContrassID=1sbSubContrassID=0listSrc=Y Israel Time: 03:39 (GMT+2) British envoy `proud' of critical comments made against Israel By Charlotte Halle The British ambassador to Israel, Sherard Cowper-Coles, says he is proud of his comments that were published yesterday and in which he described the West Bank and Gaza Strip as the biggest detention camp in the world. In the report, Cowper-Coles is attributed with accusing Israel of contravening the Geneva Convention and the Israel Defense Forces of displaying a lack of professionalism, during a leaked conversation last week with IDF Major General Amos Gilad, coordinator of government activities in the territories. Cowper-Coles told Ha'aretz yesterday that the comments, reported in the Yedioth Ahronot daily, were exaggerated, but broadly true. The ambassador also criticized Israel for continuing to build settlements, for the unnecessary humiliation and harassment of the local civilian population at checkpoints, unnecessarily uprooting trees and making life difficult for the international welfare organizations, according to the report. Cowper-Coles says he did not regret his comments, which were made in the spirit of friendship. He said he was very shocked by what he has seen in the territories, as anyone else who visited there would be. Anyone who is a friend of Israel would say what I said, he told Ha'aretz, because [it is clear the situation] is certainly not good for the Palestinians, or for Israel. The comments reported in Yedioth Ahronot were made during a private conversation, with Gilad, on instructions from London, and followed an earlier meeting with the Israeli general in the British capital last month, says Cowper-Coles. He added the source of the leak - the Foreign Ministry or someone - was very selective in what he chose to reveal of the conversation with Gilad that lasted for more than an hour. Cowper-Coles says his many references to the suffering of Israelis due to terrorism, security pressures and difficulties relating to pulling out of the territories were not conveyed. It's a pity because it's not the whole truth. If it emerges that someone in the Foreign Ministry leaked the story, Cowper-Coles said, it certainly won't increase my respect of the ministry. We don't believe in megaphone diplomacy. The ambassador, who has learned to speak a competent level of Hebrew since arriving here just over a year ago, has been widely interviewed on Israeli television and radio. He was recently praised for the sensitivity he displayed when dealing with Israeli terror victims and their families. Yesterday, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said the ministry had adopted a serious view of Cowper-Coles's remarks. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Roll Away the Dew: an Exegesis of Robert Hunter's Franklin's Tower
-Caveat Lector- http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/shalit.html ...pushing the limits of 18th century technology... Roll Away the Dew: an Exegesis of Robert Hunter's Franklin's Tower By Andrew Shalit. (email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Reproduced for the Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics by permission of the author, who retains all rights. Copyright notice. As you probably know, Robert Hunter has a great of love of American History. The song is about events during the American revolution. 'Franklin' refers to Benjamin Franklin. The 'Bell' in the tower is the Liberty Bell. Casting large metal objects is a complicated process. Casting bells is additonally complicated by the fact that bells must be able to withstand the stress of ringing, and they must produce a good tone. The Liberty Bell was not only very large, but it needed to ring loudly and clearly enough to be heard around the world. This was pushing the limits of 18th century technology. As you probably know, Benjamin Franklin was not only a philosopher and statesman, he was an inventor. He was involved in the design of the Liberty Bell in the following way: Franklin postulated that a process which he called dewing could be used to improve the production process of large bells. Dewing basically involves exposing the freshly cast bell to large quantities of steam while the bell is still hot. The steam causes a rapid cooling, producing droplet of 'dew' on the bell. After the dew is formed, the bell is rolled between large cotton sheets. He described this process as rolling away the dew. Unfortunately, Franklin's contempories had a very hard time understanding his technology. He showed them sample bells, asking him to simply look at the results without trying to understand the process. This was when he uttered the now famous quote, if you get confused, listen to the music play. In the end, Franklin couldn't convince the foundry to use his dewing process. Instead they used an alternate process developed by a Frenchman named Simon Legree (who eventually turned out to be a British agent). Simon's process involved planting small ice crystals (seeds) into the metal while the bell was being cast. As we all know, the Liberty Bell didn't last very long. I believe it had one good ring, but you can't really tell because it was so long ago. Apparently the one time it was rung was during a storm. After ringing, the famous crack developed in the side of the bell and the wind blew through the crack. They tried ringing the bell again, but the only sound was of the wind blowing through the crack. Benjamin Franklin was understandably disgusted. When asked later about the incident, his only comment was They planted ice, so they harvested wind. The ice refers to an alternate dewing process they used at the suggestion of a rival inventor (I'll spare you the details, but he turned out to be quite a Tory). The wind, of course, is the lack of sound from subseqent ringings. A second meaning (Hunter's always the punster) relates to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The musical structure of Franklin's Tower is similar to that of Deal. Hunter was suprised that Jerry would write two such similar songs, and so he considered Franklin's Tower a New Deal. It's really remarkable, the breadth of our culture that Hunter manages to work into his lyrics. By the way, Franklin's Tower (the real one, not the song) has since been converted to a bridge. If anyone's interested in buying it, let me know. On July 17, I received this message from Andrew Shalit: From: Andrew LM Shalit Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Franklin's Tower Facts Dear Andrew: [Actual text deleted at request of sender: query had to do with Shalit's sources--dd] Most of my research was conducted with the assistance of the Silent Tristero, historical division. A number of descendents of Benjamin Franklin gave me information, but only on the grounds that I keep their names confidential, as well as the specifics of the information they gave me. They are, under standably, concerned for their safety given the sensitivity of the subject. The James Madison historical society provided some very useful background papers, but I'm afraid those were destroyed in a fire of suspicious origin about two years. His whole house was burned to the ground. Sad. One cautionary note. Stay away from the DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution). They take this issue very seriously, believing that the original Liberty Bell was actually a Liberty Belle, a young woman known to many of the founding fathers --- they claim that she had a substantial role in the drafting many of the early documents, going so far as to give her a hand in the declaration of independence and consitution! I don't think it would be
[CTRL] What's Well That Falls Well?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021013-30498908.htm The Washington Times www.washtimes.com Rage meets Falwell's comment Published 10/13/2002 FROM COMBINED DISPATCHES BEIRUT, Lebanon Shi'ite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet a terrorist, and an envoy of Iran's supreme leader reportedly called for his death. Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said Mr. Falwell was a mercenary and must be killed, the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported yesterday. The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community, Mr. Shabestari, a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying. In an interview broadcast last week on the CBS program 60 Minutes, Mr. Falwell said in reference to the Prophet, I think Muhammad was a terrorist. Mr. Falwell, a conservative Baptist minister, said he has concluded from reading Muslim and non-Muslim writers that Islam's prophet was a violent man, a man of war. But Mr. Falwell apologized yesterday for calling the Prophet Muhammad a terrorist. I sincerely apologize that certain statements of mine made during an interview for the September 30 edition of CBS's '60 Minutes' were hurtful to the feelings of many Muslims, the preacher said in a statement issued in Lynchburg, Va. I intended no disrespect to any sincere, law abiding Muslim, Mr. Falwell added. In presenting his apologies, Mr. Falwell said that in his more than 50 years of Christian ministry, he had never preached a sermon on Islam, nor written a book or pamphlet on the subject. I have always shown respect for other religions, faiths and denominations, he said. Unfortunately, I answered one controversial and loaded question at the conclusion of an hourlong CBS interview which I should not have answered. That was a mistake and I apologize. In Lebanon yesterday, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah called on Muslim countries to respond to Mr. Falwell's comments on CBS, which, he said, had infringed on the prophet [Muhammad´s] dignity. Mr. Fadlallah, however, cautioned against resorting to physical violence against Mr. Falwell, saying Islam is a religion of mercy and love. In a statement issued in Beirut, Mr. Fadlallah also urged Muslims worldwide to counter what he called a cultural war launched against Islam after the September 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Mr. Fadlallah, 67, has condemned the September 11 attacks. He is a senior Shi'ite religious authority and a harsh critic of U.S. policies in the Middle East. In August, Mr. Fadlallah issued a fatwa, or religious edict, banning Muslims from assisting the United States and its allies if they attack Iraq. He also urged Muslims to withdraw their money from U.S. markets for fear they may be frozen or confiscated. Earlier this week, another Shi'ite cleric in Iran, Ayatollah Hussein Nouri Hamedani, called on Muslims to cut relations with the United States. He accused Mr. Falwell of implementing a Zionist plan to cause a clash between Islam and Christianity. But other Muslim clerics held different opinions. Although [Falwell´s] opinion is insulting, he can be answered through dialogue so that all ambiguities in his mind are cleared, Iranian Ayatollah Hussein Mousavi Tabrizi said. Mr. Tabrizi refused to compare Mr. Falwell to British author Salman Rushdie, against whom the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the father of the Iranian revolution, issued a death verdict in the 1980s for blaspheming Islam in his book Satanic Verses. Rushdie is a symbol of the red line between Islamic countries and the West. But we will not issue a death verdict against the priest. Iran is a country that promotes dialogue among civilizations, Mr. Tabrizi said in an interview yesterday. Copyright © 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. Return to the article ~~~ AER + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; I don't believe everything I read or send (but that doesn't stop me from considering it; obviously SOMEBODY thinks it's important) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
[CTRL] Secret Weapon
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-tribes14oct14004436,0,1403442.story THE WORLD Iraq's Tribes May Provide a Secret Weapon for Hussein One of the largest groups could serve as a militia, complicating action by American forces. The regime has nurtured them with aid. By Michael Slackman Times Staff Writer October 14 2002 AL RASHEED, Iraq -- AL RASHEED, Iraq -- The Iraqi army, the Republican Guard and even his Baath Party are among Saddam Hussein's main military forces. But one of the Iraqi leader's secret weapons may well be a 72-year-old man who wears flowing desert robes and lives with his family in this village just south of Baghdad. He is Khudeir Abbas Hamdan Shwerid, a mild-mannered grandfather who, since age 15, has been the leader, or sheik, of one of Iraq's largest tribes, the Abu Hamdan. The sheik says the tribe has hundreds of thousands of members spread across Iraq -- people bound by birth to a group with roots stretching to the Omayyad Empire in the 7th century. They are, at least for now, loyal to Hussein and are prepared to serve as a militia fighting foreign forces and as a national guard that could quell internal conflicts. The Abu Hamdan are one small piece of a larger weapon. Hundreds of tribes are scattered throughout this land. And whereas previous Iraqi rulers have tried to crush the tribes for fear they would challenge their authority, Hussein has nurtured them, winning their good favor with money and supplies. No one is saying the tribes could match the firepower of the U.S. armed forces in the event of an invasion, but they promise to complicate any military operation. Perhaps more consequential to U.S. policymakers, the tribal system adds yet another balkanizing element to a society already fractured along ethnic and religious lines. Should the Hussein regime fall, a replacement government would have to win the hearts of not only the Sunnis and Shiites, the Kurds and Turkomans, but the hundreds of tribal leaders to whom they're also loyal. Yes, we will resist anyone who comes here, using our own weapons, Shwerid said while seated inside a guest house he uses to greet tribal members who travel from around the country seeking his help and advice. The tribe is fully cooperating with the government. Conversely, if a significant number of tribes abandoned their fealty to the regime, a drive to topple Hussein might be strengthened. But there is ample evidence that tribes could play a crucial role in helping Hussein maintain his grip on power. In 1991, after a U.S.-led coalition drove Iraqi forces from Kuwait, an armed uprising erupted in the south. The Iraqis deny internationally accepted accounts that the revolt was staged by Shiite Muslims, who constitute a majority in this nation ruled by Sunni Muslims. The official Iraqi version is that Iranians staged the rebellion. But whoever was responsible, the government acknowledges that it was the tribes, including the Abu Hamdan, that helped restore order and, with the military, reaffirm Hussein's control over the country. The tribes proved themselves a valuable ally during the previous decade as well, when they supplied tens of thousands of their members to help fight Iran in a war that stretched on for eight years and left hundreds of thousands dead on both sides. The tribes are very influential, said Saad Naji Jawad, a political science professor at Baghdad University. Although Shwerid's tribe members are spread across the country, he maintains loyalty through a system of family ties and honor that has been handed down for generations -- and also, he says, with a good deal of cash. These are hard times for Iraqis, and the government cannot provide all the resources people need to survive. Each month, Shwerid says, he gives an allowance to 1,000 needy members of his tribe. He says he also routinely gives cash gifts to young men, so that they can get what they need to marry. In addition, Shwerid serves as a mediator in disputes, both civil and criminal. Although he is careful not to place himself above national law, his followers often turn to him, rather than the Iraqi courts, to resolve disputes. For example, if one person kills another on purpose, Shwerid will order the aggressor to pay the victim's family $7,000 in blood money. So deep are the roots of tribal identity that they spread far beyond the reaches of small, agricultural villages like this one and into the heart of Baghdad, the capital. There is great respect for the tribes, even among those of us who live in the city, said Eehab Rafe, 29, owner of an electronics shop in Baghdad's most upscale neighborhood. He is a member of the Zobeida tribe, which hails from the northern city of Mosul. Before Islam came to the Arabian Peninsula, about 1,400 years ago, the main source of identity for many people was their tribe. Tribes provided a sense of community and order in what could otherwise have been a lawless existence.
[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Auditors Say U.S. Agencies Lose Track of Billions
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Auditors Say U.S. Agencies Lose Track of Billions October 14, 2002 By JOEL BRINKLEY WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 - Year after year, auditors studying the financial records of federal government departments find many of them so disorganized, even chaotic, that the agencies cannot account for tens of billions of dollars. What is more, when many agencies realize that they have made major accounting errors, rather than looking back to see where the money went, they simply enter multibillion-dollar balance adjustments, writing off the money. That is just one of many problems that auditors typically find in annual financial statements of government agencies. The 2001-2002 fiscal year ended Sept. 30, so government agencies are preparing statements now. In the last year, the Office of Management and Budget has taken on the financial accounting problem in something like an auditor's holy war. In a letter to Congress on Oct. 7, Mitchell E. Daniels Jr., director of the budget office, said the federal government's accounts would never be tolerated in the private sector, adding that repair of a system so badly broken will not happen overnight. In part to embarrass the agencies so they will improve their financial performance, the budget office early this year began rating the 24 largest federal departments, scoring each green, yellow or red. Green indicates that the agency's financial systems are acceptable, yellow that they are troubled but improving and red that there are serious, chronic problems. In the most recent rating, completed in June, only one agency was rated green, the tiny National Science Foundation. Twenty were rated red. The Department of Defense routinely makes the largest financial blunders. In the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2000, auditors found, the department entered unsubstantiated balance adjustments totaling $1.1 trillion. That was an improvement over the previous year, when the figure was $2.3 trillion. They just made the adjustments up, said a senior official with the Defense Department's inspector general's office. That does not mean $1.1 trillion is missing. Some adjustments were deposits, others were debits. For example, the Defense Finance and Accounting Service found last year that its accounts were out of balance with the Treasury Department, the bank, by $3.9 billion. Instead of determining the source of the discrepancy, the service simply entered a balance adjustment for that amount. Hundreds of similar adjustments are behind the $1.1 trillion total. Over all, the department's financial records are so chaotic - the agency has more than 1,100 accounting systems - that Congress advised the agency's auditors not to bother even trying to audit them. Three other federal agencies - the Agriculture Department, NASA and the Agency for International Development - had unauditable books in 2000-2001. But even many of the agencies that received so-called clean audits - with books well organized enough to be audited - had serious financial shortcomings. The Internal Revenue Service, for example, is unable to produce a hard figure for the amount of tax payments due the government. Instead it runs a statistical sample of taxes due and from that derives an estimate - an arduous process that takes several months. That estimate is one of the figures the government uses to plan spending for the year. All told, for the 2000-2001 fiscal year, the Treasury Department entered a balance deduction from the government's general fund of $17.3 billion to make up for financial errors throughout the government. The government also recorded at least $33 billion in erroneous payments last year, like improper Medicare payments of $12.1 billion. We have to pump money into the executive branch to help them balance these things out, said Representative Steve Horn, the California Republican who is chairman of the House Subcommittee on Government Management. Audits of the departments' financial statements for the fiscal year 2001-2002 are due early next year. For most of the nation's history, no one asked much of government agencies in terms of financial accounting. The Constitution said only that a regular statement and account of the receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time. Early last century Congress passed laws prohibiting government agencies from spending more than Congress appropriated. These laws have not been entirely successful. For example, in the 2000-2001 fiscal year the Forest Service alone overspent its budget by $1.1 billion. Starting in the 1990's, Congress began passing more requirements. One law, in 1994, required each agency for the first time to produce annual financial statements. Those reports would be subject to audit, and in 1996, the first year audited statements were due, only 6 of the 24 agencies produced statements that it was possible to
Re: [CTRL] Bush warned taiwan of attack..told them to keep it a secret
-Caveat Lector- I don't see how this interpretation can be made given the information in this article ? The complaint re the lack of warning from the government to Taiwanese tourists is made, but where does it say anything about either a US tipoff, or a Friday meeting ? T. According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by USA. Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter. Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an emminent attack? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Saddam, the U.S. Agent
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saddam, the U.S. Agent October 15, 2002 By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF KUWAIT - Terrorists once more fired at American troops here in Kuwait on Monday, although no one was injured this time. As with last week's attack, in which two Kuwaiti men shot one American marine to death and wounded another, we don't know whether the shooting was sponsored by Al Qaeda or was a purely home-grown affair. But there's no doubt that even in Kuwait, where Yankees have the best possible claim on Arab gratitude, a significant minority of men and women regard us as worms. Some Kuwaitis are even hailing the terrorists who killed the American soldier as martyrs. This gulf of mutual suspicion and anger between Americans and overseas Muslims seems to have widened dangerously since 9/11, and it will yawn even more explosively in a war and occupation of Iraq. This gulf reminds me of my very first conversation in Arabic, just after I'd moved to Cairo in 1983 to study the language. Ismak eh? asked a friendly-looking neighbor in my building, and I was thrilled that I recognized that he was asking my name. Ismi Nick, I said, beaming. He flinched, turned pallid and stepped back. In a barely audible voice, he croaked out his question again: Ismak eh? Unsure what had gone wrong, I stepped forward and thundered, Ismi Nick. The man fled. My bewilderment and distress in that moment seem familiar this year, for once again Americans and foreign Muslims are unwittingly outraging each other. Sometimes the difference in our assumptions and world views yawns so wide that it's difficult even to have a meaningful conversation. On Monday evening I attended a lecture at Kuwait University about the prospective American invasion of Iraq. In the question-answer session, one earnest young man began: I'm totally convinced that Saddam Hussein is an agent of the U.S. Yup, that's actually a common view in the Arab world. The idea is that the U.S. asked its pawn Saddam to invade Kuwait, so that Washington could respond by establishing military bases in the region and steal Arab oil. I should add that there are also plenty of grateful Kuwaitis who see no conspiracies. One woman at the lecture came up to me to apologize for the shootings at the marines, saying: We breathe today only because of God and the U.S. Those marines who were injured were like our sons. Unfortunately, there are many others who applaud Osama bin Laden for having the guts to take on the infidels. The suspicion and hostility we face in the Islamic world will be one of our central challenges in the coming years, particularly after any invasion of Iraq. Look at Pakistan, our supposed ally in the war on terrorism. The most common name given to Pakistani boys born after 9/11 in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province reportedly was Osama - that's right, Osama. Last week's elections in Pakistan resulted in huge gains for fundamentalists who are vehemently anti-American. The fundamentalist parties, which used to be a fringe element in Pakistani politics, now will control two of the country's four provinces. If we gain friendly governments in Afghanistan and Iraq but see the rise of an Islamist nuclear power in Pakistan, that will have been an appalling trade. A poll published this month by Zogby International found that across eight countries, Arabs have warm feelings about some Western countries but a wretched view of the U.S. While Kuwaitis were the most pro-American, even they regarded the U.S. unfavorably more than favorably, by a 48 percent to 40 percent margin. In most other Arab countries, fewer than one person in six viewed the U.S. favorably. Americans often dismiss the significance of the Arab street, and they have a point: pundits always have it about to explode, and it rarely does. But the explosion of the Iranian street in 1979 still haunts the region, and a similar eruption on the Saudi street or Pakistani street would be catastrophic for the world. One of the reasons to be wary of an invasion of Iraq is that the downside risk is not just in Baghdad, but also around the oil wells of Saudi Arabia and the nuclear missiles of Pakistan. Oh, and the meaning of Nick in Arabic? It is a verb meaning to have sex, but it's even more vulgar than its English four-letter equivalent. And Nick is the worst possible conjugation, the command form. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/15/opinion/15KRIS.html?ex=1035661792ei=1en=17b9c102f96cf929 HOW TO ADVERTISE - For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER