[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects

2002-10-14 Thread Mermaid

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The point of my post which perhaps i did not make clear was not so much the
side effects but the claim by Smith Klein glaxo that this drug is not habit
forming ...It is Also any side effects which cause people to change
their personalities should not be allowed onto the market untill they have
been properly tested in this case they were tested and the results which,
they tried to hide amongst masses of paperwork, were deemed unacceptable by
an independent doctor.
Besides this do we really want kids to start taking these mind altering
drugs when things dont go right for them...it is part of lifes experience
these ups and downs i had them we have all had them that is why we have
parents and friends to talk them through not to have pills offered to us as
a quick solution.

The Mermaid x

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Subject: [CTRL] Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects


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 Note:  Not all people can take all drugs -- legal or otherwise.  Of
course, the most
 extreme experiences usually make the news and are therefore used to
extrapolate
 misleading statistics taken as pseudo-fact.  I for one, have a hard time
with statins the
 family of drugs that are used to reduce cholesterol.  One of the side
effects is having a
 muscular rigidity and I've experienced this almost immediately with two
versions (and I'm
 about to embark on a third).  Beyond this, there are considerations as far
as liver function
 effects.  And on and on.  The ill effects of some drugs are well known
(alcohol, e.g.) but
 people keep on taking them because they feel better off with them than
without.  Different
 strokes for different folks.  Some people freak out on some things that
others can take for
 indefinite periods of time with no apparent ill effect.  An excellent site
that explores many
 facets of drugs in all their wonderous kinds is at the first linque below.
Note that some
 titles may be viewed and when going to a different page that title will
not be highlighted as
 having been visited; this is because there are many article with the same
title heading.
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 @ http://www.biopsychiatry.com/index.html

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 Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects

 Frequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects

 Body as a Whole: Malaise (a vague feeling of bodily discomfort), pain.

 Cardiovascular: Hypertension, syncope (a sudden loss of strength, a
temporary suspension
 of consciousness due to cerebral anemia), tachycardia (excessive rapidity
in the action of
 the heart).

 Dermatological: Pruritus (Intense itching)

 Gastrointestinal: Nausea and vomiting.

 Metabolic and Nutritional: Weight gain, weight loss.

 Nervous System: Central Nervous System stimulation, concentration
impaired, depression,
 emotional lability (emotional instability), vertigo (a hallucination of
movement; a sensation
 as if the external world were revolving around the patient or as if he
himself were revolving
 in space).

 Respiratory: Cough increased, rhinitis (inflammation of the mucus membrane
of the nose).

 Infrequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects
 Infrequent Paxil side effects occurred in at least 1 in 1000 people.

 Body as a Whole: Allergic reaction, chills, face edema (abnormal amount of
fluid in the
 facial tissue), infection, moniliasis (infection caused by Candida (yeast
like fungi), neck pain,
 overdose. Cardiovascular: Bradycardia (abnormal slowness of the
heartbeat), conduction
 abnormalities (abnormal transfer of sound waves, heat, nerve influences,
or electricity),
 ECG abnormal, hypotension (lowered blood pressure), migraine, ventricular
extrasystoles (a
 premature contraction of the heart).

 Dermatological: Acne, alopecia (absence of hair from the body where it is
normally
 present), dry skin, ecchymosis (blood under the skin, usually looks or
appears like a bruise),
 eczema (an inflammatory skin disease characterized by lesions varying
greatly in character,
 at times watery discharge and the development of scales and crust),
furunculosis (a
 number of painful nodules formed in the skin, caused by bacteria, which
enter through the
 hair follicles or glands, its formation is favored by digestive
derangement and local
 irritation), herpes simplex, urticaria (reaction of the skin to certain
drugs, marked by the
 appearance of smooth, slightly elevated patches, which are redder or paler
than the
 surrounding skin and often includes severe itching).

 Gastrointestinal: Bruxism (grinding of the teeth especially during sleep),
buccal cavity
 disorders (cavity running from the cheeks to the lips), dysphagia
(inflammation of the
 esophagus), eructation (the act of belching or casting up wind from the
stomach),
 gastroentertitis (inflammation of the stomach or intestines),
gastrointestinal flu, glossitis
 

[CTRL] Europe Alarmed By U.S. Plan for General to Govern Iraq

2002-10-14 Thread Jei

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http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2002-10/13/article23.shtml

Europe Alarmed By U.S. Plan for General to Govern Iraq

Anti-war demonstrations worldwide do not seem to convince Bush to back off

LONDON, October 13 (IslamOnline  News Agencies) - America's European allies
are alarmed at a plan, on the making, in Washington to install a U.S.
general to govern Iraq, after an inevitable invasion is complete, a British
paper reported Sunday, October 13.

According to The Telegraph, the proposal (invading Iraq and installing a
U.S. military ruler there to replace the Iraqi regime) is an implicit
acknowledgement that America's long-running effort to identify an immediate
and credible successor to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, among the ranks of
the Iraqi opposition, has foundered.

Diplomats say that the suggestion, made by senior Bush administration
officials Friday, October 11, has endangered frantic American and British
efforts to secure a United Nations Security Council resolution backing tough
new weapons inspections inside Iraq, the paper added.

One European official said: If you're worried about military action and you
have concerns about American intentions, as some people do, then this kind
of suggestion is only going to increase your suspicion.

Iraqi dissidents and the Arab League expressed dismay at the prospect of the
country being run by a foreign power.

Hamid al-Bayati, a representative of the Supreme Council for Islamic
Revolution in Iraq, a Shiite-led opposition group, met U.S. officials in
August. He said: We were told that they want a broad-based Iraqi
government, with no direct American role.

Under the plan, modeled on America's occupation of Japan after the Second
World War, a top American commander - possibly General Tommy Franks, now in
charge of U.S. forces in the region - would assume the senior role in a
coalition-run regime.

The military regime's first task would be to find and destroy Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction. Only once this was achieved, after at least a year,
would power be passed to Iraq's opposition groups, who are judged incapable
of quickly forming a stable government.

France and Russia, two of the five permanent members of the United Nations
Security Council, are dragging their feet over U.S. calls for inspections to
be backed up by the simultaneous threat of military force, and many NATO
members are also nervous.

The plan emanated from the Pentagon, where U.S. hawks, led by Donald
Rumsfeld, the Defense Secretary, want a quick invasion, assisted by
hoped-for mutinies within Iraqi military ranks.

One London-based diplomat told The Telegraph, Someone at the Pentagon has
decided it's a good time to leak this, without thinking that it does not go
down well elsewhere.

At a practical level, there are doubts over whether America has sufficient
service personnel required. The total strength of the U.S. armed forces is
1,414,000, with an army of 485,000, but of these only 15 per cent or less
are deployable on operations overseas.

American planners calculate that a force of 75,000 U.S. and allied troops
will be needed for the occupation, which could last up to 10 years.

Under the plans, a ground force of five armored divisions and two airborne
and helicopter assault divisions will be used in the operation to remove
Saddam.

Jack Straw, the British Foreign Secretary, flies to Washington this week to
warn America that it must prepare to back down on its demand for a single UN
resolution authorizing new weapons inspections inside Iraq and military
force if they fail.

Straw will tell Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, that after a month of
diplomatic negotiations it is now unlikely that Russia and France will agree
to the American demand.

Instead British officials are pinning their hopes on a weaker option: a
first, strongly-worded resolution setting out the inspections regime and
making clear that some kind of consequence will follow if Iraq fails to
co-operate. A second resolution, explicitly authorizing force, could follow
if necessary.

We'd prefer a single resolution, but the most important thing is to have a
UN process, said one official. We do not want to end up with no UN
resolution at all.

The Iraqi regime has dismayed the UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, and
strengthened the hand of British and American diplomats by going back on
arrangements for a new round of inspections in Iraq which Blix thought had
been agreed.

An Iraqi letter to the UN, which came to light Saturday, October 11, failed
to confirm details that Blix thought had been nailed down at the end of last
month.

It said security guarantees could not be provided for UN aircraft in
northern and southern Iraq, unless no-fly zones patrolled by British and
American aircraft were lifted.

We are not surprised that once again the Iraqis want to delay and deceive,
said a spokesman for John D Negroponte, the U.S. ambassador to the UN.

Meanwhile in Baghdad, Iraq's 

[CTRL] U.S. Spurns New Iraqi Invitation to U.N. Arms Inspectors

2002-10-14 Thread Jei

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http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2002-10/13/article19.shtml

U.S. Spurns New Iraqi Invitation to U.N. Arms Inspectors

Our president to be our dearest, Iraqi Women chant


WASHINGTON, October 13 (IslamOnline  News Agencies) - The U.S. dismissed as
world play Iraq's new offer to allow U.N. weapons inspectors unconditional
access to its facilities.

In a letter sent Saturday October 12, to chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans
Blix and Mohamed El Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA), Iraq clarified its agreement on the return of U.N. inspectors after
they pulled out of the country four years ago, said Agence France-Presse
(AFP) .

Commenting on the letter, State Department spokeswoman Jo-Anne Prokopowicz
claimed Iraq continues to want to play word games and not comply with U.N.
resolutions.

Iraq had written an earlier letter dated Friday October 10 to the U.N. which
had been construed as evasive and criticized by the U.S. administration.

Washington dismissed the October 10 letter as a page-and-a-half of rhetoric
that says everything but 'yes'.

IAEA spokesman Mark Gwozdecky told AFP the Saturday letter, the second in
two days, from Iraqi presidential adviser Amir El-Sadi, head of the Iraqi
delegation to weapons talks in Vienna on October 1, was an explicit
confirmation that Iraq agreed to arrangements made in Vienna.

The letter is new but my understanding is that the content of the letter
isn't new, it's merely meant to set the record straight, he added.

It is meant to try to dispel any misinterpretation that the previous letter
might have led to and basically to make it clear that the arrangements and
the agreements reached in Vienna were now formally agreed in writing,
Gwozdecky said.

But he did not believe the letter would affect plans to delay the return of
weapons inspectors to Iraq until a new U.N. Security Council resolution has
been passed.

The Iraqis believe that what they did in Vienna was remove all obstacles
to the return of weapons inspectors.

They did remove some obstacles, but one exception was this question of
presidential palaces, he said.

One of the main areas of contention is the inspection of President Saddam
Hussein's presidential palaces.

But Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said in Hamburg Saturday
October 12 that inspectors would have unfettered access to all areas of
Iraq.

Malaysia on Sunday October 13, urged the 57-nation Organization of the
Islamic Conference (OIC) to call an emergency meeting in a bid to avert a
U.S.-led war against Iraq.

The OIC needed to speak with one voice on Washington's threat to invade Iraq
and topple the regime of President Saddam, Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar
told the official Bernama news agency.

I will send the letter [calling for an emergency meeting] to the OIC
secretary-general tomorrow.

We must come out with one voice and our actions must be integrated, Syed
Hamid said.

This is the time for all OIC member states to issue clear statements on
their respective stands and initiate diplomatic efforts and negotiations to
avert a war on Iraq.

Syed Hamid said he feared an attack on Iraq would arouse anger and feelings
of marginalization among Muslims and even moderate Muslims will eventually
be influenced and become extreme because their moderation was not
reciprocated.

Malaysia, a mainly Muslim Southeast Asian nation which has supported the
U.S. war on terrorism, is due to take over the chairmanship of the OIC after
a summit here in October next year.

In a show of popular solidarity with him, Naam, naam, Saddam, Yes, yes,
Saddam, echoes across the parade ground outside the Iraqi ruling Baath
Party headquarters in a northern Baghdad suburb.

We don't want bread and water, we want our president to be our dearest,
chanted a group of Iraqi women.

Bush, Bush listen here, we all love Saddam, said a middle-aged man in a
well-worn safari suit to thunderous applause.

A referendum is to be held Tuesday October 15 on a new seven-year
presidential term for Saddam.

Meanwhile, the U.S. is reportedly mulling what shape the government in a
post-Saddam Iraq might take, including some form of military occupation
government.

Secretary of State Colin Powell confirming press reports on the plans, told
National Public Radio Saturday October 12, Should it come to that -- and
the president hopes that it does not...we would have an obligation to put in
place a better regime.

We are obviously doing contingency planning, and there are lots of
different models from history that one could look at: Japan, Germany,
Powell said.

The New York Times and The Washington Post jump-started questions about the
issue, reporting Friday October 11, that the U.S. administration was
preparing an occupation plan for Iraq, calling for a U.S.-led military
government before a civilian Iraqi government could take over.

The plan includes a transition to an elected civilian government in Iraq
that could take months or 

[CTRL] The True Motives Behind The Impending War on Iraq

2002-10-14 Thread Jei

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 9th October 2002

 The True Motives Behind The Impending War on Iraq

 On the anniversary of the start of the U.US. war in Afghanistan, in
 Cincinnati, Ohio, George Bush delivered a speech attempting to string
 together a convincing argument to launch a war against Iraq. In unison
 British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was also on a tour of the Middle
 East and Persian Gulf, discussing with Saddam's neighbours the
 possibilities of an upcoming war.

 Despite the numerous attempts that the British and American governments
 are putting forward, it should be clear that this will be a colonial war
 based on furthering their strategic, political and economic interests.By
 reviewing the arguments that are put forward to provide a rationale to
 attack Iraq their absurdity becomes apparent. This should prompt us to
 scrutinise the true and real motives behind this impending war. The
 following are some of the key reasons for going to war with Iraq that
 have been outlined by Bush and Blair:

 1. The first claim made about Iraq is that it is in material breach of
 numerous UN resolutions. George Bush in his address to the UN General
 Assembly on 12 September went through a painstaking review of all the
 resolutions that Saddam had broken. The problem with going down this
 path is that other countries notably India and Israel have also put the
 proverbial V sign up to UN resolutions, yet there is no sense that Tel
 Aviv or New Delhi are being warmed up for an imminent attack. The
 concept of double standards gives too much credence to Western leaders
 as it assumes they have some belief in the concept of International law
 in the first place, they simply don't. Conformity with International law
 only occurs when it coincides with national interests. The simple fact
 of five permanent members having a veto in an institution which is
 designed to represent democracy and the norms of international law would
 be laughable if it wasn't so serious.

 2. The second claim made about Iraq is that it should be attacked
 because it has weapons of mass destruction (WMD's). Well taking that
 logic a lot of countries have WMD's including the countries, which want
 to do the attacking. So obviously this cannot be the real reason. Bush
 said in his recent speech, Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are
 controlled by a murderous tyrant, who has already used chemical weapons
 to kill thousands of people. Yet Bush's predecessors in the Whitehouse
 also used nuclear bombs and chemical weapons, in Japan and Vietnam to
 name a few, needless to say these killed hundreds of thousands of
 people.

 3. The third claim is that Saddam is a monster, a real brutal dictator
 who terrorises his own people and therefore needs to be removed. The
 retort to the argument that it was the West who armed and befriended
 Saddam in the 80's is met with disdain. According to Bill Clinton's view
 the West has some moral duty therefore to cleanse the swamp it has
 itself created. There wouldn't be a problem with this argument if the
 West just came out and said that dealing with nasty and brutal dictators
 really did depend on one's political interests rather that this farce of
 pretending in some way that they have empathy and sympathy with the
 people who live under these dictators. Madeline Albright when asked a
 few years ago on US television whether the death of 500,000 Iraqi
 children as a result of UN sanctions was a price worth paying, she
 replied 'Yes I believe it was a price worth paying'. The real acid test
 on whether the West conforms to this doctrine of an ethical foreign
 policy is to look at the West's current allies in the 'War on Terror'.
 This reveals several unsavoury people like Islam Karimov the butcher of
 Tashkent who routinely kills and imprisons his political opponents.
 While Baghdad anticipates the imminent prospects of cruise missiles,
 F16's and carpet bombing Tashkent expects with bated breath, bumper US
 aid packages, more IMF loans and further encouragement in its crackdown
 on Islamic groups.

 4. The fourth claim is that Saddam Hussein is a special case in that he
 has a track record of using his WMD's on his own citizens as well as
 previous experience of invading his neighbours. However the use of WMD's
 and invading other countries is not confined to Saddam and the same
 accusation can be legitimately applied at the US, Britain or Israel . So
 in need of a convincing argument Britain and America prophesise that
 Iraq could develop nuclear weapons within months and then pass these
 over to groups such as Al Qaeda. This latter argument gives rise to the
 new neo conservative thinking within the Bush White House which states
 that pre-emption is a perfectly acceptable political and military
 doctrine especially after 9/11 which they say has changed the
 international and security landscape.The advocators of this doctrine or
 as some have described the real 'axis of evil' are Defence Secretary
 Rumsfeld, 

[CTRL] What War Means to the Iraqi People

2002-10-14 Thread Jei

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http://www.counterpunch.org/mahajan1011.html

October 11, 2002

What War Means to the Iraqi People
by ROMI MAHAJAN

I woke up early to the news today and wish sleep carried me a little longer.
In much poetry, dawn represents the breaking of the methaphorical night of
loneliness, a respite from pain. But for the Iraqi people, this is not that
dawn.

In an early morning vote, the Senate voted to approve Bush's Iraq
resolutions with a stunning 77-23 majority. Yesterday, the House voted more
than two-to-one in favor of the resolution.

The way is now paved for a military attack on the impoverished Iraqi people.
The mightiest power in the world will soon attack a reeling, poor country of
22 million people. For us in the U.S., we can only imagine what devastation
will be wroght, but in the sewer filled streets of Basra, in the filthy,
decaying hospitals of Baghdad, in the shanties of Karbala, the Iraqi people
know all too well what awaits them.

Theirs has not been an easy life. For 22 years they have been subject to
wars not of their making.

22 years ago, in 1980, Saddam Hussein attacked Iran. The ensuing war lasted
8 long years and cost each side over half a million lives. Then, Iran was a
vilified enemy of Washington and thus the U.S. looked at the war favorably.
Of course, the U.S. wasn't simply a dispassionate observer, it actively
abetted: it provided arms, support, and credit to Iraq, provided Saddam
Hussein seed stock for chemical weapons, allowed Iraqi tankers to sail the
gulf under the U.S. flag, and even shot down a commercial Iranian airliner.
Later it was revealed that the U.S. also sold arms to Iran during this time,
supporting its policy of dual containment, one dedicated to the notion
that if aspiring brown countries expend their energies and resources
fighting each other, they won't be able to develop independently.

8 years of war, hundreds of thousands of dead youth, and a hundred billion
dollars later, Iraq emerged the victor, albeit one in heavy debt and in
which hardly a family existed who did not lose a loved one in the war.

The next two years saw Saddam and his forces brutally attack the Kurdish
population of the North-- under the watchful eyes of the U.S -- killing tens
of thousands of civilians. And as Iraq reeled under a heavy burden of deebt,
it called upon other Arab nations to pay for their share of the Iran-Iraq
war and was turned away. Tensions mounted and wars of words ensued.

Meanwhile, the entire political world was changing. The Soviet Union was
disintegrating and the U.S. was emerging as the sole superpower, one that
needed a proving ground for the New World Order it was developing in its
own image.

With incredible political legerdemain coupled with the gift of insanity that
the despots it has always supported have inevitably bestowed upon it, the
U.S. got what it wanted: Iraq in the crosshairs.

On August 2, 1990 Saddam Hussein's forces invaded Kuwait.

On August 6, 1990 - Hiroshima Day - the U.S., under the formal auspices of
the U.N., put Iraq under the most onerous sanctions regime in modern
History.

And between January and April 1991, the sole superpower, with a fawning
coalition of countries, bombed Iraq mercilessly, destroying not only
military but also civilian infrastructure. Water treatment plants, drug
factories, and electrical plants were destroyed.

The sanctions war took over where the bombing war ended. For 12 long years,
the Iraqi people have been under an incredibly onerous sanctions regime.
Clean water, medicines, and food are all in short supply in Iraq. The
education system is in ruins, the economy is in shambles, and the children
of Iraq have been stripped bare of hope.

Also, over the last 12 years, Iraq has been under the direct attack of the
US: a deadly set of missile attacks in 1993, operation Desert Storm in 1998,
and ongoing bomb runs by coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones.

The Iraqi people have suffered for 22 years. Generations have grown up under
war and sanctions.

Children suffer the most. The sanctions themselves have directly led to the
death of over 1 million Iraqi children.

Now, Iraqi parents must prepare to lose more.

Many Western journalists report that in Iraq, people seem non-chalant about
war, indifferent. It's curious to me how this can possibly be true. I wonder
how many of these journalists understand that while one can bomb and starve
a people, their dignity will force them to put up a brave front to those
from the very countries that plague them.

The argument is that after 22 years of conflict, the people are inured to
suffering.

No parent can be inured to the suffering and death of her children.

The argument is that after 22 years of conflict, war is no big deal.

That's like saying that since they suffer anyway and have suffered long,
let's make them suffer more.

No, folks, there is no way around it. War will kill Iraqi people.

And they will sob for their children with severed limbs, 

[CTRL] Foes of Policy on Iraq Finally Coming to Life

2002-10-14 Thread Jei

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http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1007-03.htm

Published on Monday, October 7, 2002 by the Chicago Tribune
Foes of Policy on Iraq Finally Coming to Life
by Salim Muwakkil

The Bush administration's irrational belligerence toward Iraq finally has
awakened some of the loyal opposition to initiate a serious debate on the
matter of war with that damaged nation.

On Thursday, a lineup of about 30 Democratic lawmakers gathered outside the
Capitol building to detail their displeasure for a resolution that would
authorize President Bush to use any force against Iraq that he deemed
necessary and appropriate to defend the U.S., and to enforce UN Security
Council resolutions.

Leading members of the House, including Minority Leader Richard Gephardt
(D-Mo.), already had reached an agreement with the Bush administration to
support the resolution. The emergence of what seems to be a growing anti-war
faction, organized primarily by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat from Ohio,
reveals some serious divisions within party ranks.

I am completely at a loss to explain to you why the minority leader of the
House, the Democratic leader, would join with President Bush in this kind of
activity, noted Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) at the news conference.
Conyers, a ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and dean of the
Congressional Black Caucus, called the resolution the most disturbing
arrogation of constitutional power by any president in my memory.

Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.) made the point that the resolution proposes a leap
before you look strategy that ultimately jeopardizes American security.

Ohio Democratic Rep. Sherrod Brown said the proposed resolution allowing
pre-emptive unilateral action represents a radical change in our military
doctrine.

[Unilateral action in Iraq] sends a message to our allies and to others
around the world that if the United States, the world's superpower, a member
of the UN Security Council, is willing to do that, then why can't we? Brown
said. He added that Bush never once mentioned his plans for such a dramatic
departure from military tradition in his presidential campaign.

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) displayed two uneven stacks of e-mails and
letters, claiming those opposing war represented the largest stack by far.
Like many of the other House members, she argued that she is being bombarded
by messages urging her to oppose the Bush administration's war resolution.

Some observers trace these ripples of dissent to a Sept. 23 speech by former
Vice President Al Gore in which he argued that an Iraq attack will damage
the war on terrorism, weaken U.S. leadership in the world and create new
enemies.

But many members of Congress had expressed opposition to the logic of the
Bush Doctrine long before Gore's well-publicized comments. Some members
also blame the media for minimizing dissenters.

Let's see how much media coverage there'll be of this news conference,
shouted one voice in the audience.

People have been asking `Where are the Democrats?' Well, here are the
Democrats, said Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.). Waters has been a consistent
critic of the administration's overall Middle East policies and has often
urged her party mates to be more vocal.

Waters said the Bush administration has failed to provide the proof that
Iraq has possession of nuclear weapons and is willing to use them. The U.S.
keeps pushing for an intrusive inspection regime, yet, she noted, we seem to
forget that the CIA was caught spying on Iraq during the last spate of
inspections.

The California lawmaker expressed considerable cynicism regarding Bush's
plans for an invasion of Iraq. Seems like no matter what we do, the
determination has already been made, she said.

But there were hints that this ripple of dissent may move beyond the
progressive elements of the Democratic Party. Rep. Jim Moran, a centrist
Democrat from Virginia with a hawkish record, joined the crowd of
dissenters.

Saddam Hussein is the one who should be marginalized, not the U.S.
Congress, Moran said. The basis of his dissent is the new powers the
resolution grants to the president. He said our new national security
strategy that allows for unilateral, pre-emptive military action upon the
president's own authority has implications for the rest of the world that
will come back to haunt us.

There also has been an uptick in anti-war demonstrations around the U.S.,
including two in Chicago last week.

In addition to the usual left-leaning suspects, there is considerable
opposition to the Bush administration's war plans among conservatives. Pat
Buchanan has used some of that aggressive opposition to help fuel a new
magazine called the American Conservative.

The voices of dissent are rising and just may prevent the U.S. from becoming
the 21st Century's leading warmonger--but don't bet on it.

Salim Muwakkil is a senior editor at In These Times
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Copyright © 2002, Chicago Tribune

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[CTRL] Wake Up, Maryland

2002-10-14 Thread Euphorian

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Wake Up, Maryland

This Article Was Published In The Montgomery County Journal
http://www.mcsm.org/dirlik2.html



Wake up, Maryland, and
realize gun control fails

By STEVE DIRLIK


Let me provide an answer to State Sen. Ulysses Currie's viewpoint, Gun laws reduce 
crime
- so what are we waiting for? (Feb. 7).

We are waiting for objective and honest politicians who legislate based on fact, not 
fiction.
We are waiting for compelling evidence that shows gun control has reduced crime
somewhere, anywhere, including New Jersey, the lone jurisdiction Currie cites as proof 
that
gun control works.

Note that in Vermont, where citizens can legally carry a concealed firearm without a 
permit,
the murder rate is half that of New Jersey's. The District of Columbia has been 
waiting 25
years for its complete handgun ban to reduce crime, but it hasn't happened yet. England
has waited five years for its handgun prohibition to work, but crime has gone up, not 
down.

There are similar documented failures in New York City, Chicago, Australia and 
elsewhere,
but politicians simply ignore these failures to further their own political agendas 
while
pandering for the votes of their liberal constituents.

Maryland has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the nation, yet as Currie 
himself
noted, ``Maryland has the dubious distinction of having the highest rate of youth 
handgun
killings. Note that Maryland is also No. 1 in robbery, No. 3 in murder and No. 4 in 
overall
violent crime.

Just across the Potomac River, however, Virginia's gun laws are so ``bad that 
Virginians
can legally sell each other handguns without background checks or waiting periods.
Virginians also can carry concealed weapons.

Yet Virginia's violent crime rate is much lower than Maryland's. Why? I'll answer that
question, too.

Virginia's legislature is not waiting for a gun-control miracle to somehow prevent 
criminals
from committing crime. Unlike Maryland's legislature, they've realized that the only 
way to
reduce crime is to actually put criminals in jail.

Project Exile in Richmond is a well-documented example of how to reduce crime. Along 
the
highways in Virginia, billboards give prospective criminals this stern warning: 
``Illegal gun?
Five years mandatory in a state prison. Regardless of what any judge or lawyer says,
there is no parole, no plea bargain and no early release. This works.

What doesn't work is Maryland's absurd revolving door of justice. ``In Maryland, a 
judge
can reduce a sentence at any time, for any reason, according to the Journal article,
``Truth in sentencing: A justifiable and fair demand by Del. Marilyn Goldwater, D-
Bethesda. She notes: ``Maryland has the dubious distinction of being the only state 
that
gives judges such complete latitude with sentence reconsideration.

In recent years, this particular ``dubious distinction lets Maryland judges release 
1,100
criminals early and return 90 convicted murderers to our streets. One released murderer
killed a policeman and a store clerk in Prince George's County, in Currie's district. 
This
double-murderer served only 16 years of his double-life sentence. Does this make any
sense?

Maryland has the most lenient judges, the most lenient sentencing laws and the highest
violent-crime rate. Is this merely a coincidence, or are these ``dubious distinctions
somehow related? I'll let Currie, D, ponder that question, while I pose yet another:

Now that we know what works, and what doesn't, what are we really waiting for? If we
sincerely want to reduce crime, we know that putting criminals away works, and gun
control doesn't.

We are waiting for Maryland citizens to make their political system work by voting out 
the
politicians who are either too cynical to choose public safety over politics, or too 
stupid to
recognize which policies actually reduce crime.

Instead of working hard on crime-control policies to make their own constituents safe 
from
criminals, Maryland's incumbents worked hard on redrawing district lines to keep their 
own
seats safe from political challengers.

It's our job to vote these guys out, and vote in politicians who have the courage to 
put
criminals behind bars. We, at Montgomery Citizens for a Safer Maryland, are waiting for
Maryland citizens to wake up.


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[CTRL] Olde Merrie Land

2002-10-14 Thread Euphorian

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So here we have it (as far back as at least 1999): *Why*, of all places, would this
apparent stranger (if what they found to be driving directions around MD are indeed 
his) go
to the Land of Mary to start dropping people?  Perhaps I'm reading too much into this 
but if
someone wanted easy prey, it might be that which cannot defend itself.  So, we've got 
the
MD AG :  Curran (D), the state's chief lawyer, wants Maryland lawmakers to ... 
prohibit
people from carrying concealed weapons in public places...

So every time there's a loose cannon (!), the Merrie Landers have to wait for a cop to 
come
to their rescue, something they've so far proven to be ineffective if not impossible.

AER 

From http://www.psychops.com/Headlines/Maryland_Gun_Laws/maryland_gun_laws.html

Tough Laws For Guns Proposed In Maryland
Attorney General Says Goal Is Ban

By Daniel LeDuc
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 20, 1999; Page A01

Maryland Attorney General J. Joseph Curran is proposing a wide-ranging package of laws
that would make the state's gun control regulations among the strictest in the nation 
and
says his ultimate goal is a ban on handguns.

Curran (D), the state's chief lawyer, wants Maryland lawmakers to tighten background
checks on potential gun owners, prohibit people from carrying concealed weapons in 
public
places and ease liability laws to make it easier to sue gunmakers. He is considering
whether to sue gun manufacturers for the violence caused by their products.

Our public policy goal must be to rid our communities of handguns, Curran says in a
report he is releasing today outlining his proposals.

State leaders said they had yet to review the attorney general's proposals. But 
Curran's
recommendations come at a time when Gov. Parris N. Glendening (D) has put gun control
on the forefront of his legislative agenda this winter with a push for smart gun 
technology
that would prevent handguns from being fired by anyone but their owners.

The attorney general said he supports the governor's proposal, as well as legislation 
that
would make illegal gun possession and sales a felony. They are misdemeanors now. He
also wants to give police officers additional powers to investigate gun trafficking.

Curran said he was prompted by the gun violence that has troubled the nation over the 
past
year. He cited shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, an Atlanta brokerage 
house,
a Los Angeles day-care center and a Fort Worth church that left 32 dead.

In an interview, Curran said he had not ruled out taking legal action against gun
manufacturers. Nearly 20 cities and counties throughout the nation have sued gunmakers 
to
recoup the cost of treating gunshot victims. None have come to trial. A judge recently 
threw
out a suit filed by Cincinnati, handing gunmakers a victory. But in the face of the new
litigation, Colt's Manufacturing Co., the venerable Connecticut gunmaker, has said it 
is
discontinuing many of its handguns.

Curran said he wanted to make a legislative push before suing and hoped that enactment 
of
his legislative proposals would be the first step in what he acknowledged could be a 
more-
than-decade-long effort to restrict handguns.

Handguns should be the province of the military or law enforcement or a special 
segment
of people such as some sporting enthusiasts or shopkeepers needing protection, he 
said.
As for his legislative proposals, he said, For every solution to a major problem, 
there has
to be a beginning.

Curran, a longtime gun control advocate, was reelected to a fourth term in November. He
backed a push for banning Saturday night specials while serving in the legislature in 
1986
and cites his own experience: His father, while serving on the Baltimore City Council 
in
1976, was shot at by a gunman who invaded City Hall; his father was not wounded but
suffered a heart attack in the incident, Curran said.

A spokesman for Glendening said the governor would be briefed on the details of 
Curran's
report today. The governor plans to push hard on his smart-gun proposal and welcomes
all other proposals in the debate over how we make our communities safer, said
spokesman Michael Morrill.

Initial reaction to Curran's proposals from Maryland legislative leaders was mixed. 
Senate
President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (D-Prince George's) said gun control legislation 
would
be based on common sense and could include new requirements for safety locks, but he
did not commit to anything more stringent. House Speaker Casper R. Taylor Jr. (D-
Allegany) was more receptive and said he expected delegates to pass the governor's
smart-gun proposal.

We are realizing as a society and as a nation we can't continue to not just condone 
but
enhance and promote a life of violence. I definitely see something happening on gun
control, said Taylor, who represents a rural district in Western Maryland where such
measures are not popular.

Opponents of gun control are already girding 

[CTRL] The art of terror

2002-10-14 Thread Euphorian

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From

   www.sfgate.com   Return to regular view

The art of terror
Charles Paul Freund
Saturday, October 6, 2002
©2002 San Francisco Chronicle.

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/06/IN225021.DTL

Damien Hirst, one of Britain's most celebrated artists, told the BBC last month that 
the Sept.
11 attacks were visually stunning artworks and that the perpetrators need
congratulating. He's sorry for that now.

You've got to hand it to them on some level, he originally said of the murderers, 
because
they've achieved something which nobody would have thought possible. Best known for 
his
series of art pieces involving neatly sliced animal carcasses, Hirst now has issued a 
regret-
filled clarification insisting,

I value human life.

Meanwhile, as Hirst was slapping al Qaeda on its collective back, a New Zealand artist
named Gail Haffern was telling the Auckland art press that the destruction of the World
Trade Center while filled with people was wonderful .

. . because it was a new idea.

Haffern's only notable achievement is that she holds New Zealand's first- ever 
doctorate in
fine arts. Being an artist, she says of her reaction to the attacks, I thought what 
if this
had been a performance piece and Osama bin Laden had declared himself an artist, how
would the world have seen it then? Her answer is a sculptural installation involving
representations of the trade towers, surrounded by blocks featuring such wordplay as
Pentagone. 

As it happens, Hirst and Haffern were echoing sentiments blurted out a year ago by
Karlheinz Stockhausen, one of the world's best-known composers. Stockhausen was
speaking to journalists in Hamburg, Germany, a few days after the attacks, and called 
the
destruction the greatest work of art ever. Stockhausen immediately asked the
interviewers not to report what he had said. However, a juicy quote is at least as 
appealing
to reporters as mass murder is to certain artists, and the composer's remarks resulted 
in
an uproar.

What's this about? Haffern, the obscure New Zealander, might be dismissed as seeking
cheap notoriety. Hirst and Stockhausen, on the other hand, are acknowledged leaders in
their fields; they're hardly in need of bad publicity, as the German composer 
realized. A
reasonable conclusion is that all three meant what they said: that the Sept. 11 
attacks had
great aesthetic significance, were visually stunning, wonderful in their 
originality, and
even great works of art that deserve recognition and congratulating.

One conclusion is that these artists represent an aesthetic barbarity not evident 
since the
painters and writers of prewar Italy and France celebrated violence, destruction and 
martial
strength as necessary to create a fascist order. These, too, saw something positive --
something wonderfully aesthetic --

in force, blood and mayhem, which is why the German critic and philosopher Walter
Benjamin charged fascism with aestheticizing its repellent politics.

In that sense, these artists and those for whom they speak may be aestheticizing 
their
own politics as well. Until such time as these artists applaud the obliteration of 
Hiroshima in
a wonderfully novel burst of light, or celebrate Hollywood for its beautifully 
choreographed
violence, or embrace the American right to bear arms for its aesthetic potential -- 
until
then, we can justly speculate that it is only when Americans are murdered that the act 
is
revealed as grand art.

What really stands out about these various remarks, however, is their breathtaking 
banality.
Stockhausen, for example, placed the acts in the context of cheap melodrama. He told
interviewers, That characters can bring about in one act what we in music cannot dream
of, that people practice madly for 10 years, completely fanatically, for a concert and 
then
die. That is the greatest work of art for the whole cosmos.

But that sounds less like a vision of cosmic art than it does a cynical MGM tearjerker 
from
about 1948. Stockhausen successfully evoked the moody, misunderstood musician, played
by an unkempt Louis Jourdan. But where is the fatherly character played by Oscar 
Homolka,
urging Jourdan to end his 10 years of mad practicing and instead marry Olga Baclanova 
and
live a life of small pleasures? No matter, the last scene writes itself: The concert 
is over,
the audience's sneers have become an ovation, but Jourdan lies dead behind the curtain 
in
the arms of a tearful Baclanova who only now understands art's demands.

Hirst and Haffern are younger than Stockhausen, and express a more modern banality.
Hirst envisions congratulating the terrorist/artists, as if they were gathered for a 
London
gallery opening. What has earned this peer recognition? The work? Of course, but it is 
the
scandal that is unparalleled. These artists have not merely offended their middle-class
capitalist audience, they've murdered its members by the thousands. Their art 

Re: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!

2002-10-14 Thread Nurev Ind

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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:15 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!


This is total and complete bullshit!
Utterly bullshit.
Idiotic psychoreligious paranoia.

Typical of screwed up brains like Shannon's.

Joshua2


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 Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!
 Map of Shootings shows CROSS OF SATAN
 Written By D.E. Alexander A HREF=http://www.247news.net/;24 7 News Net
 /A24 7 News Net - The Alternative News Wire
 Join our emailing list A
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 24 7 News Net - The Alternative News Wire
 October 4th, 2002
 Update October 9th, 2002 (Psychic Sollog names next locations of Sniper!
 Click Here for Article on A
HREF=http://www.247news.net/2002/sniper.shtml;Sollog's Future Sniper
Location Warning/A
 Update October 11th, 2002 (Sniper Strikes where famous Psychic WARNED!)
 Click Here for Article on A
HREF=http://www.247news.net/2002/sniper.shtml;Sollog's Accurate
Warning/A

 I was doing an interview today with the world famous mystic known as A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A
 who I have written a couple of books about. A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A is an expert on occult
 matters and symbols. The reason I was interviewing A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A once again, was
 that he put the details of yesterday's devastating hurricane into a public
 court statement SEVEN YEARS AGO TODAY! His statement of October 4th 1995
 warned that LOUISIANA would be hit by a major hurricane near New Orleans.
 Yesterday Lili fulfilled his warning LITERALLY! Close to 2 Billion in
damages
 occurred within 100 miles of New Orleans in Louisiana.

 Now my interview with A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A about
Hurricane Lili is featured in another
 story on this site. However, this story about the Maryland Shootings is
 needed since my interview today took an unexpected direction when I asked
him
 about the 5 DEADLY SHOOTINGS in Maryland.

 A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A said matter-of-factly, The
shootings were a SATANIC SACRIFICE
 performed by a special ops soldier of the US Government who works for a
 demonic part of the US Government that wishes to take away guns from US
 Citizens. This same part of the US Government is controlled by a SECRET
 SATANIC SOCIETY similar to SKULL AND BONES, the SATANIC SOCIETY that
George
 W. Bush and his father belongs to! These SECRET SATANIC SOCIETIES are out
to
 create their NEW WORLD ORDER that is based upon worship of SATAN and THE
RAMS
 HEAD! Taking guns from US Citizens is a necessary part of their SATANIC
PLAN
 to control the world! If you map out the locations of the FIVE SHOOTINGS
the
 locations form THE CROSS OF ST. PETER or the UPSIDE DOWN CROSS that
Satanic
 cults use in their rituals! The number five represents the points of a
 PENTAGRAM, the sign of a SATANIC SACRIFICE! Two of the victims were CHOSEN
 since they have RAMS in their names. RAMOS and MARTIN are two of the
victims.
 These names fit the same pattern of the rash of US Kidnappings that all
had
 RAMS or MARS in their names! (See our articles on how the recent US
 Kidnappings are connected) RAMS are the sacrificial sign of SATAN and MARS
is
 the planetary sign these SATANIC CULTS use in these sacrifices!

 A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A later sent me a map of the
Shootings to verify his claims. Sure enough
 the map of the area near Washington DC shows an UPSIDE DOWN CROSS in the
 locations of the shootings!

 So there you have it, a RASH OF SATANIC SHOOTINGS by an expert marksman
who
 used only one bullet in each SACRIFICE. Didn't Ari Fleischer just mention
ONE
 BULLET the other day? How brazen the SATANISTS like Bush are to have
warned
 of this event to the press the other day! You can interpret the Ari
Fleischer
 comment now as, ONE BULLET SACRIFICES ARE COMING right near DC. I wonder
how m
 any congressmen and senators are now SO SCARED that they will vote to take
 away GUNS from the citizens of the USA and leave them only in the hands of
 the Satanists running DC?

 As I mentioned above, I've written a couple of books about A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A they are
 below as well as links to his web site A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;http://www.Sollog.com/A

 A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A was heavily investigated by
the FBI for his accurate 911 warning.

 The book I wrote about the Sollog 911 Warning is at A
HREF=http://www.1ebooks.com/911;
 http://www.1ebooks.com/911/A The book I wrote about The Prophecies of A
HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A is
 at A
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A

 A book about The Prophecies of A HREF=http://www.sollog.com/;Sollog/A
written by A 

[CTRL] Fwd: The Prophecy of Bella Dodd

2002-10-14 Thread RoadsEnd

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Thanks, a lot, Ann, for forwarding this important message.  Have you ever
read Dodd's School of Darkness.  It is fascinating.  Char

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 The Prophecy of Bella Dodd

 In light of the current confusion and moral scandal in the Church, it
 would be well to consider a neglected bit of recent Church history: the
 public testimony of Bella Dodd, who served as legal counsel to the
 Communist Party in the United States until her conversion to
 Catholicism, after which she spent the rest of her life atoning for her
 role in the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church.

 An article in Christian Order magazine (November 2000) recounts how Dodd
 and her associate, Douglas Hyde, revealed the plan for Communist
 subversion of the Church. Ex-Communist and celebrated convert Douglas
 Hyde revealed long ago that in the 1930s the Communist leadership issued
 a worldwide directive about infiltrating the Catholic Church, while in
 the early 1950s, Mrs. Bella Dodd was also providing detailed
 explanations of the Communist subversion of the Church. Speaking as a
 former high-ranking official of the American Communist Party, Mrs. Dodd
 said: In the 1930s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in
 order to destroy the Church from within.

 The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of
 influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops. A dozen years before
 Vatican II she stated: Right now they are in the highest places in the
 Church, where they were working to bring about change in order to
 weaken the Church's effectiveness against Communism. She also said that
 these changes would be so drastic that you will not recognise the
 Catholic Church.

 Dodd gave voluminous testimony on Communist infiltration of Church and
 State before the House UnAmerican Activities Committee in the 1950s. In
 a lecture at Fordham University during that time, Dodd unveiled what
 would seem to be an uncanny prophecy of future chaos in the Church. The
 lecture was attended by a monk whose account of the talk is presented in
 Christian Order:

 I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on
 end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would
 think she was the world's greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She
 was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion
 of the Catholic Church. She explained that of all the world's religions,
 the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it
 was its only effective opponent.

 The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but
 rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of the
 Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a
 pseudo-religion: 

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: for immediate release?

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I didnt want to be the first to spill the beans. Matt Drudge just 
did,so:Regarding the Washington DC sniper, the bottom line is that 
the first 5shootings COULD NOT have escaped the eye of more than 100 full 
timesurveillance cameras on Georgia, connecticut avenues and on aspen 
hillroad and randolph road.the pertinent authorities know who the 
"sniper" is because theres no waythey could not know.So what is 
really going on?hint: its related to present world events and 
especially to sellinganti-terrorism to residents of DC area who happen to 
work on capitolhill.kthomas
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Re: [CTRL] White House E-mail

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The e-mail was forwarded by Jennifer Hugo, an intern. Hugo did not respond to e- mail
questions about the message and White House telephone operators said they could not
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Women named Jennifer do seem to trouble the Bush family. Prudy
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Hi,

Comments interspaced below;

In a message dated 10/13/02 10:08:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi,

This conspiracy theory by Bob Feldman about PRA is a good example of
the lack of logic in most conspiracist tracts. There are so many
fallacies of logic in this article that it could serve as an example
for study in a logic class. Among the more obvious fallacies of logic
are:

Guilt by Association
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html


Gee whizz, Let's us see how many times has Mr. Berlet used guilt by
association to smear honest researchers into history?  More than I can count.



Sequence Implies Causation (Post Hoc)
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/post-hoc.html

Feldman has failed to provide one iota of evidence to support his
distorted, false, and slippery argument (which he lacks the ethics
and courage to state outright) that the CIA and its wealthy agents
provide funding to PRA to attack researchers that I characterize as
conspiracists.


Mr. Berlet is a  fraud and uses smear to keep people divided. Mr. Berlet
takes $700,000 dollars a year to do these activities from foundations.

 And you Mr. Berlet have failed many times to support your smears.

How come you never answered my many questions about your fraudulent work?

How about showing us some factual errors in Mr. Quiggley's section that YOU
selected?

How about answering my critiques of your UNFOUNDED comments on the
Franklin-Cover-Up?

NO comments on the ruling of a FEDERAL JUDGE in the Franklin Cover-up? Is the
FEDERAL JUDGE a conspiracist?
http://www.cia-drugs.com/Franklin/index.html;

How about you showing us where Mike Ruppert uses longstanding right-wing
conspiracist theories in his writings?

Any Comments on Elite Deviance?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:


The Franklin Cover-Up is a ridiculous book making outrageous charges



about a huge abuse ring.  The charges have been investigated



repeatedly by the local press and little evidence has surfaced to



support the book.  De Camp is widely considered a crank in his own



state.  I suppose you dismiss the fact that he works with the



LaRouchites.  I think it is significant.


Some members of Skull and Bones went on to do bad things. Some

members of the Boy Scouts of America went on to do bad things. Some

who drnk chocolate milk in their youth went on to do bad things. Some

people who smoked marijuana in college went on to become heroin

addicts. There is no casue and effect relationship to any of these

statements. Skull and Bones does not run the world, nor does it plot

to make members do bad things.  Anecdote is not proof.  Sequance does

not imply causation.


I do believe that the articles on Mr. Ruppert's website are rooted

in

 longstanding right-wing conspiracist theories






This is a false claim.  I deny it.  All of us at PRA deny it.



How many people at PRA?

Oh and Mr. Berlet what conspiracy theory do you subscribe to about the events
of 9/11? The official one ...

What conspiracy theroy do you subscribe to about October Surprise? The
official line ...

What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about the JFK assassination? The
official line ...

What conspiracy theory do you subscribe to about CIA-Drugs? The official line
...

What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about the Franklin cover-up? The
official line ...

What conspiracytheory do you subscribe to about Skull  Bones? The official
line ...


I challenge everyone to diagram this article using logic to see if
there is a single fact that establishes Feldman's claims.  There are
none. My son learned how to diagram arguments for logic in his public
school 8th grade.  Feldman would have received an F in that class.

Try to find the link between the CIA and PRA. It is hinted at, but
there is not a single fact to back it up.  It is false. Draw a chart
with organizations and their boards.  What connects PRA to McGeorge
Bundy? Is it likely that one person on a board controls the entire
board? This is guilt by association. There is no connection between
the CIA or McGeorge Bundy and PRA or me. In fact, this claim
originates in a lawsuit filed against me by Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche
lost the case.

Here is another example. I thanked Progressive editor Matt Rothschild
in a book I edited years ago for help he gave me in getting
permissions from some of his writers to include their articles for
the Progressive in the book.  This is offered by Feldman to suggest
that there is a conspiracy involving Matt and me to criticize
conspiracists. A coincidence? Actually, yes. I have not contacted
Matt in several years. The fallacy of logic here is sequence implies
causation.  Check it out.  In fact, check out the logic websites such
as:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/index.htm

Many of us who criticize conspiracists do so not because the CIA is
secretly funding us, but because we think the type of conspiracism

[CTRL] Voter Fraud Investigation

2002-10-14 Thread klewis

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http://www.ksfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=970855nav=0w0iBlP6


 October 14, 2002


Voter Fraud Investigation

Every vote counts - unless ballots are being cast by people who don't exist, are dead 
or
who don't even live in South Dakota. A major case involving those voter fraud issues 
has
been under investigation by the FBI for the past month. KSFY has learned the
investigation mainly focuses on six counties including: Dewey, Pennington, Fall River,
Charles Mix, Shannon and Ziebach, although there may be other counties involved.

The focus of the investigation centers on absentee ballot registration requests in 
counties
with or near Indian Reservations across South Dakota. A letter recently sent out by the
Democratic Party confirms Party officials were notified about possible ballot
discrepancies in Dewey County, and when notified contacted authorities immediately.
According to their letter, a Democratic Party contractor, Becky Red Earth-Villeda was
fired after at least two of the people she registered were found to be invalid.

On October 12, we found evidence that in Ziebach County a woman somehow applied for
an absentee ballot after she died. The absentee ballot application for Denise Red Horse
is filled out just as it should be: she has an address, she signed where she was
supposed to. The major flaw? Denise Red Horse died September 3rd in a car accident.
Her application was signed September 21st, 18 days after she was killed.

This is just one of the discrepancies of which Attorney General Mark Barnett has been
notified and the FBI is investigating. Barnett says there was one case where the lady 
had
apparently registered in two different counties, another case shows a lady supposedly
sent in an absentee ballot some days after she was actually killed in a car accident.

Red Horse's bogus application isn't the only suspicious item Ziebach County's Auditor,
Cindy Longbrake has noticed in the past few weeks. She says one person filled out 150
registration cards, and she could tell they were all filled out by the same person.
Longbrake says she thought, She either didn't know what she was doing or, I
understand, she was getting paid to do these and she didn't care how she was doing
them.

There are several different politically motivated groups on and around Indian
Reservations trying to register that particular population. Native Americans make up 
8.3
percent of the state's population -which transfers into roughly 63-thousand residents.
With close races, especially on the Senate side, every vote truly does count.

According to our sister station KOTA in Rapid City, two brothers are now being
investigated for turning in forged voter registration cards to the Pennington County
Auditor. The auditor says most of the voter registrations were duplicates which could
have been done by copying names and addresses out of a phone book. The brothers
were caught after getting the voters birthdays wrong.


By Shelley Keohane

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Since I am facing a similar situation, with the 
same lack of legal protections,I am passing this on to allow you 
tolearn what is happening legally with this recent high profile case which 
made the front page yesterday in Portland's "Oregonian". The Sheeple are being 
conditioned to turn in anybody by the large Heading onyesterday's 
Oregonianpaper. The Heading to the front page story takes up a 1/4 of the 
page(!!) and says, "A parking lot attendant. A bagel-maker. A devoted mother. A 
student of international affairs. A restaurant manager. And a guy who used to 
sell Mary Kay cosmetics. As new details emerge, they look more like amateurs 
than terrorists... IS IT POSSIBLE THEY ARE BOTH?" (That's a long 
heading.) 

A woman in Washington who called the FBI because 
some of the people who were arrested asked her for directions. I listened to her 
interview. They were wearing Moslem clothes so she said they were suspicious 
looking and she didn't feel good about them so she called the FBI. And this lady 
is being treated as a hero.(!!) Obviously the controlled establishment media 
wants to encourageAmerica to be asnitch society. Stalinist Russia 
here we come. 

While all the coverage of me has been totally one 
sided, and I too have been labelled a terrorist; I have not had the widespread 
attention the following big case is getting. While I know nothing of the guilt 
or innocence of the following people, what our attention should be drawn to is 
that people like this no longer have legitimate legal protection, and it is 
sincerely questionablewhether real guilt will ever be determined when any 
snitch and any rumor can be paraded as fact. It was not that long ago that 
people who lived behind the Iron Curtain had to live in constant fear of 
everyone else. Everyone ratted on everyone else. No one could enjoy 
life.

- Original Message - 
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Children 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Ombudsman 
Office ; office of inspector general ; US Attorney General 
Ashcroft ; A 
Voice For Children 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:41 AM
Subject: FEDS CREATING CHAOS IN OREGON TO EXPLOIT FEAR, PROTECT FROM 
TERRORISTS..




Today: October 13, 2002 at 11:00:14 PDT 


Feds Creating 
"Terror" to enforce agenda in Oregon
No Evidence - 
no standard of law necessary in Fed Court Exploiting 
FEAR

(note after AP 
Release)
Hearsay 
Allowed in Conspiracy Cases

By WILLIAM McCALLASSOCIATED PRESS 


PORTLAND, Ore.- Two key exceptions to 
general criminal law may allow prosecutors to use even weak evidence to build a 
case against a dozen suspected terrorists charged in Oregon and New York, legal 
scholars say. 

Unlike most crimes, proof of conspiracy 
does not require an actual crime and hearsay is allowed. 

"In the legal world, conspiracy is called 
the 'darling' of prosecutors," said Robert Precht, a University of Michigan law 
professor and a defense attorney in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 


"It's the closest American law comes to a 
'thought crime' because the paradox of conspiracy law is there need not be any 
crime at all," he said. 

Instead, all that is needed is evidence 
that two or more people agreed to commit a crime and took at least one step 
called an "overt act" - however trivial and even perfectly legal - toward 
planning that crime or carrying it out. 

"There have to be overt acts in pursuance 
of the conspiracy but those overt acts can be perfectly innocuous things, like 
getting on a plane at JFK, so you don't need a lot," said Abraham Sofaer, 
aStanford law professor, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and former 
legal adviser to the U.S. State Department. 

[CTRL] UFO Sightings? Alien Abduction? Get the gear to get HOME!

2002-10-14 Thread IGGY

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[CTRL] Implants Are REAL!! Charles Schlund Is Right!!!

2002-10-14 Thread Martin F. Abernathy

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Charles Schlund is right! People are being implanted, tortured, and electronically 
controlled. These news articles are about people who KNOW that they have been 
implanted. Rather than admit that this is happening, the psychiatrists and the media 
simply label these victims as 'mentally ill' [e.g. 'paranoid schizophrenic'].

{For those of you who are unfamiliar with Charles Schlund -- from
Glendale, AZ -- do a Google search of these terms: 'Schlund' +
'Affidavit'}


*This incident happened just last month!

++

Copyright 2002 San Antonio Express-News
San Antonio Express-News
September 6, 2002, Friday , STATE

SECTION: METRO / SOUTH TEXAS; Pg. 2B

Patient arrested after flare gun scare at hospital
By Katherine Leal Unmuth

A man at Audie Murphy VA Hospital shot two staffers with a flare gun, then holed up in 
a second-floor office for more than an hour Thursday before police negotiators talked 
him out.

The man arrived around 11:30 a.m. at the hospital's mental health unit, where he shot 
a social worker and a psychiatrist with an orange plastic flare gun. The two women 
were not seriously injured.   Police arrested a veteran who was being treated at the 
hospital for schizophrenia. His name was not immediately released.

Hospital workers reported that the attacker told them he was upset that they had 
implanted a microchip inside him.

He expressed that he felt that we had implanted something in his body that made him 
hear voices and he wanted it taken out, said Jose Coronado, director of the South 
Texas Veterans Health System. Coronado also said the man had stopped taking his 
medication.

The man first entered the office of social worker Yvette Huerta and shot her in her 
left arm and chest, police said.

We saw sparks coming out of the office and thought a computer was malfunctioning, 
said Iva Timmerman, a psychiatrist and 15-year veteran of the hospital who also was 
injured in the incident. Then we saw him following her.

As Timmerman and others tried to get to cover, she said, the man shot her from behind. 
She said it felt like a racquetball bouncing off my shoulder.

He was firing at people, she added. He was picking and firing. He chose people.

Police evacuated about 30 people, including patients and employees, from the west wing 
of the building in the 7400 block of Merton Minter. The rest of the hospital remained 
open, Coronado said.

Timmerman said schizophrenics who stop taking their medication may withdraw from 
society or become paranoid. Some can become violent.

We can't predict violence, she said. A lot of people threaten violence and never 
carry it out.

Police spokesman Sgt. Gabe Trevino applauded the negotiators for defusing a situation 
that could have developed into a much longer standoff.

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Staff Writer Emanuel Gonzales contributed to this report.

++

He also complained of hearing voices. He saw his name written in the snow. He 
believed doctors put an implant behind his ear to monitor his thoughts.

Telegraph Herald (Dubuque, IA)
October 7, 2001 Sunday

SECTION: Pg. A6

LENGTH: 1499 words

HEADLINE: Mental-health crises can get police under the gun; Bullets: Man's death 
raises questions on whether officers are trained to deal with unstable people

BYLINE: BEN DOBBIN
DATELINE: IRONDEQUOIT, N.Y.

BODY:

Ron Kessler walked along the suburban highway, clutching a bunch of wildflowers in one 
hand and a claw hammer in the other.

As he went down an exit ramp, a car pulled up alongside. The young driver wondered if 
he needed a ride. Get away from me! Kessler barked, waving the hammer. Soon 
afterward, alerted to this encounter, two police officers in patrol cars appeared.

Kessler, 42, who had recently stopped taking drugs to treat paranoid schizophrenia, at 
first ignored their orders and kept walking. Within two minutes, he lay dead on a lawn 
with five bullets in his chest, leg and wrist. It was the first fatal shooting by the 
56-member police force in this town next to Lake Ontario. And it raised questions 
about how well police here - and in departments around the nation - are trained to 
cope when mentally ill people break the law.

I saw the bullet holes, said Kessler's sister, Marlene Zazzara. They didn't have to 
shoot him so many times.

When officers saw her brother was despondent, she said, why not try non-lethal means?

Why didn't they Mace him? Why didn't they net him or call for backup? They didn't 
know he was trying to go get help.

Tears flooded her eyes as she sat in her kitchen recalling that July morning in 1998.

It was like losing a child, she said. I was his lifeline, through good, bad and 
indifferent. I was always there for him.

Large institutions that once housed psychiatric patients began shrinking or shutting 
down in the second half of the 20th century as doctors switched to community care and 
the use of new anti-psychotic drugs.

One result was that police increasingly have found themselves 

[CTRL] Let my people go, eh?

2002-10-14 Thread Party of Citizens

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Subject: [U-S-A] Liberty for White Israelites

So what do you think, Willie? You White Israelites believe this code is
at the foundation of your faith. Is spirituality-morality somehow linked
biologically to your white genes? Or is it more linked to Cohen Y
chromosome genes? If so, is it more linked to the Y genes of Jewish or
Christian Cohens? (There was a story on a Christian Cohen in BC Christian
Info News, monthly tabloid, a couple of years ago). Can genetic
engineering help you White Israelites to become more holy, eg by splicing
out the unholy genes and splicing in more holy genes? Look I can go on
with this parody until hell freezes over. Are you ready to concede that
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the body profiteth nothing (Red
Letters)? If you want a nation under God and in service to God, you will
have to get there by articulating the spiritual-moral nature of such a
nation...and it ain't U-S-A. Perhaps you can plan to flee to LIBERTY with
your White Israelites to the Great Confederacy north of the 49th.
parallel. Just think of us'all as Dixie North. Let my people go, eh?

POC

PS-A recent poll reported last night on CTV News tells us 4:10 Americans
think they should annex Canada. The next poll should ask how many
Canadians think Dixie North should annex America. First we liberate
Alaska, then.

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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:22:19 -0700
From: John D Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Christianity-Revealed] The Universal Moral Code

This introductory letter on the Torah's universal moral code was inspired by
my correspondence with a person in India, who expressed an interest in
studying those teachings and precepts of the Torah which apply to all human
beings:

Dear Friends,


The breakdown of traditional moral values has become a major issue of
discussion and debate in contemporary western society. If we are to discuss
this issue from the perspective of Jewish tradition, we need to be aware
that, according to the Torah, there is a universal moral code which is the
legacy of all the peoples of the earth. This moral code has seven basic
precepts which are known as the Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah. The
Talmud (Sanhedrin 56b) states that these precepts were first taught to
humanity at the very dawn of human history, beginning with Adam and Eve;
however, this code was reaffirmed during the generation of Noah, after the
flood, and it therefore became known as the Seven Mitzvos of the Children
of Noah. The Seven Mitzvos are the following:


1. the mandate to establish courts of justice

2. the prohibition against cursing the Divine Name

3. the prohibition against idolatry - the deification of any object, being,
or power other than the One God

4. the prohibition against murder

5. the prohibition against immoral sexual relations such as incest,
adultery, homosexual intercourse between two males, and intercourse with
animals

6. the prohibition against theft

7. the prohibition against eating a limb severed from a living animal


Each of these seven precepts actually contain many of the 613 mitzvos which
are incumbent upon Jews. For example, in the classical compendium of the 613
mitzvos known as Sefer Ha-Chinuch, we find the following comments
regarding the 416th mitzva - the prohibition, You shall not covet
(Deuteronomy 5:18):

This prohibition applies at all times, in all places, to both men and
women, and to all human beings. This is so because it is part of the
prohibition against stealing, which is one of the Seven Mitzvos that all
human beings are to observe. Make no mistake concerning the enumeration of
the Seven Mitzvos of the Children of Noah - these being well-known and
recorded in the Talmud - for they are but categories, and they contain many
particulars. The Sefer Ha-Chinuch points out that since the Children of
Noah were adjured about stealing, they were equally adjured about all Torah
decrees to keep a person far away from stealing, such as the decree, You
shall not covet.


According to Jewish tradition, a human being who fulfills the teachings and
precepts of the universal code has achieved a high spiritual level, and
Maimonides writes: Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these
Seven Mitzvos and is precise in their observance is considered one of the
chassidei umos ha'olam - the righteous among the nations - and will merit a
share in the World to Come ( The Laws of Kings 8:11). Maimonides adds that
humanity must also recognize that the Seven Mitzvos were reaffirmed with the
giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai.



[CTRL] WARNING! Mind Control Implants Cause Crime!!!!

2002-10-14 Thread Martin F. Abernathy

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Fahy told Cambria that he has chips implanted in his head

Newsday (New York, NY)
February 2, 2002 Saturday QUEENS EDITION

SECTION: NEWS, Pg. A13

LENGTH: 472 words

HEADLINE: Injured Cop Released From Hospital

BYLINE: By Sean Gardiner; STAFF WRITER

BODY:

A police officer shot in the leg during a standoff in Rockaway Park was released from 
a Queens hospital Friday while the emotionally disturbed teenager accused of shooting 
him was in a psychiatric ward, awaiting arraignment.

Officer Kevin Boyle, 43, of Massapequa Park, was released from Jamaica Hospital 
Medical Center Friday after being treated for a gunshot wound to his left calf.

The 18-year-old man accused of shooting him Thursday, Timothy Fahy, remained at Kings 
County Hospital Center Friday night undergoing psychiatric evaluation, police said. 
Police sources said Fahy has a history of emotional problems and it's believed that on 
Thursday he had stopped taking his medicine, Risperdal, a drug used to treat 
schizophrenia. Police officials had also heard, but were unable to confirm, that 
Fahy's brother had been on television news receiving a scholastic award that night and 
that caused an already unstable Fahy to go off.

Officials from the Queens district attorney's office said Fahy will be charged with 
attempted murder, attempted aggravated assault and criminal possession of a weapon. It 
was uncertain Friday night when arraignment would take place.

Officials said it was also still unclear how Fahy obtained the .38-caliber Smith  
Wesson handgun used to shoot Boyle and graze the right ankle of another officer, Keith 
Papsodero.

The incident started just before 6 p.m. when Fahy's grandfather, Martin Fahy, called 
911 to report that his grandson had been acting aggressively and was armed with a 
baseball bat. When police arrived at the Fahys' two-story home at 121-07 Newport Ave., 
they found the grandfather struggling with the teen. When Timothy Fahy spotted police 
he locked himself in a bathroom.

After Martin Fahy, a retired detective, accounted for the two guns he keeps in the 
house, the officers tried to get Timothy Fahy out of the bathroom. After an hour, 
police used a sledgehammer to break a hole in the door and, through the hole, stunned 
Fahy with a Taser gun.

Fahy then blindly fired two shots through the hole, hitting Boyle and grazing 
Papsodero, police said.

Lt. Jack Cambria, head of the police department's Hostage Negotiation Unit, then was 
called in. Over the next two hours, Fahy told Cambria that he has chips implanted in 
his head, the television set talks to him and he feels his parents don't love him 
anymore, a police source said. Just before 9 p.m., Cambria persuaded Fahy to surrender.

Thank God the officer was only injured in the leg, said City Councilman Joseph 
Addabbo, who visited Boyle in the hospital Thursday night and then went to the scene. 
It could have been a lot worse.

Police sources said it appears that Fahy had been receiving treatment for mental 
illness at St. John's Episcopal Hospital in Far Rockaway.

=

According to court papers filed by prosecutors, Campbell had traveled from Georgia to 
the Pentagon because he believed the U.S. government had implanted a mind-controlling 
computer chip in his brain. Campbell believed the government -- most likely the CIA -- 
was trying to change his thinking and using his mind without his approval, wrote 
Assistant U.S. Attorney W. Neil Hammerstrom Jr., who handled the government's case.

The Washington Post
November 17, 1994, Thursday, Final Edition

SECTION: METRO; PAGE C8

LENGTH: 555 words

HEADLINE: Insanity Ruling Issued In Slaying at Pentagon;
Mental Patient Killed Navy Commander in '91

SERIES: Occasional

BYLINE: Bill Miller, Washington Post Staff Writer

BODY:
Carl E. Campbell, the longtime mental patient who shot and killed a Navy commander 
three years ago outside the Pentagon, was found not guilty of murder by reason of 
insanity yesterday after doctors concluded he was having delusions when he opened fire.

The sudden, brazen killing of Cmdr. Edward J. Higgins, 42, which took place in broad 
daylight on a bright spring day, stunned Pentagon workers. Higgins, a 21-year Navy 
veteran and father of two, was shot as he waited along with several other passengers 
for a shuttle bus in a parking lot south of the Pentagon. The bus stop is about half a 
block from the busy Pentagon Metro station. Yesterday's ruling, which followed a brief 
hearing before Judge Albert V. Bryan Jr. in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, means 
that Campbell, 30, could be freed from a federal psychiatric facility if he ever 
recovers from his mental illness. However, a psychologist recently determined that 
Campbell remains seriously ill.

We will oppose any attempt to release him, U.S. Attorney Helen F. Fahey said. We 
consider him a danger to society.

Campbell, of Manchester, Ga., was arrested immediately after the attack on May 30, 
1991, and 

[CTRL] Two Little Boys!!!

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http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/thompsonvenables.html


  
  

Robert Thompson and Jon 
  Venables: Great Britain's Infamous Ten-Year-Old Kidnappers 
  by Sky Ryan 
  
  

  


  "Come on, baby," Jon Venables urged pulling toddler James 
  Bulger by the hand. Jons best chum, Robert Thompson, walked a few feet in 
  front of them leading the way out the front glass doors of the Bootle 
  Strand Shopping Center just outside Liverpool, England. Venables 
  and Thompson had been "sagging" (British for playing hooky) that chilly 
  afternoon in February of 1993. The two schoolboys were close friends as 
  well as disreputable rabble-rousers from broken homes. Jon and 
  Robert spent that morning and early part of the afternoon goofing around 
  the Bootle Strand on a shoplifting high. The wily imps managed to smuggle 
  all kinds of crap out of several businesses without getting caught. Among 
  the items they ripped off were batteries, candy, toy soldiers, magic 
  markers, blue paint, and a troll doll for Roberts collection. Several 
  hours into pocketing small stuff, Jon and Robert grew bored of their 
  spree. They agreed to move onto stealing something far more valuable than 
  merchandise in a store, something sure to give them a bigger rush: a real, 
  live baby. A little after three oclock when they should have been 
  getting out of school, Venables and Thompson strolled nonchalantly through 
  the mall in search of a smaller unsupervised kid. It didnt take long for 
  Satan to lead them to James Bulger -- a preschooler playing alone with 
  cigarette butts in an ashtray outside the malls butcher shop. Baby James 
  had wandered away from his young mum just a minute before Jon and Robert 
  approached him. As the naughty truants hastily lured Bulger out of the 
  galleria, his mother Denise chit-chatted away in the long, crowded line of 
  the butchers, unaware her son had vanished. Not until she finished making 
  her purchase did Mrs. Bulger notice her only child was gone from her side. 
  She called out for him in the shop and asked strangers all around if they 
  had seen a two-year-old with blond hair wearing a blue anorak. Nobody she 
  approached had. She then tracked down security guards, who announced 
  Jamess disappearance over the speakers. Denise and the guards 
  searched for Jamie throughout the plaza for a full half hour. At 4:15 
  p.m., they called police to report him missing. By the time authorities 
  got to the mall to interview Jamess mum, hed been led nearly a mile away 
  by his abductors. Bulger became fussy within the first few minutes he was 
  dragged between Robert and Jon. As soon as he would whine for his mummy 
  and try to stop walking, the older lads would force him to go on, 
  punching, kicking, and shaking him til hed cooperate. Venables and 
  Thompson wandered around town for about ninety minutes with Jamie, 
  covering a two mile radius. During those ninety minutes, they took Bulger 
  into a couple of stores, including a pet shop and bakery. They also yanked 
  him down a grassy slope to a canal under a bridge where they got a kick 
  out of dangling him upside down and dropping him on his head. A 
  few minutes into that particular torture game, Jon and Robert stopped 
  themselves from having too much fun. It wasnt quite dark yet and they 
  knew someone could easily peer down the hill and discover them hurting a 
  baby. So Jon carried the bruised and whimpering James in his arms, 
  following his leader up the bank. When they reached the hilltop, they 
  adjusted Jamies coat and scarf to cover as much of his swollen face as 
  possible, then roamed about town for a bit longer until nightfall. 
  At 5:30, when they felt it was finally dark enough, Venables and 
  Thompson took Bulger to one of their favorite play spots -- some railroad 
  tracks -- where they knocked Baby to the ground and stomped on his tummy 
  and chest. Jon opened the jar of bright blue paint hed pocketed earlier 
  and splashed it across the tykes face. Robert removed Bulgers shoes and 
  pants, then inserted the stolen AAA batteries into his rectum. One of them 
  spotted a two-foot long heavy iron pipe nearby, which they used to bash 
  their toy tots brains in. They also found bricks to hurl at him. 
  When Bulgers body went stiff, Jon took him by the legs while 
  Robert got hold of the torso. They carried James directly over the 
  railroad tracks and laid him down so that his upper half was off the 
  tracks, while his naked legs were on them. They left before the 
  train came. 
  ** 
  Later 

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  NOTE: :http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue78/bankers.htmlInternational 
  bankers live in fear. Not of starvation, disease, or war. These are the 
  concerns of children in the Third World. Bankers are terrified we 
  might object to paying them billions each year in interest for money they 
  create out of nothing, guaranteed by our taxes. (The Federal Reserve 
  Board, a private cartel of mostly foreign banks, finagled this monopoly in 
  1913.) The bankers are frightened that, like the homeless man's 
  dog, we might say "I can do this myself." They are scared the 
  government might go even further and "default" on trillions of 
  make-believe "debt." They are frightened of losing "control." 
  In order to sleep more soundly, the bankers have taken "steps." 
  These precautions help us to understand the world we live in, why 
  it is becoming safer for bankers but less safe and more bizarre for 
  everyone else. First, people with money machines tend to have a 
  lot of friends. The bankers helped their friends establish monopolies in 
  oil, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, transportation, media, etc. and took a 
  healthy stake. As you can imagine, these people are thick as thieves. 
  Lawyers, journalists and intellectuals all vie for a piece of the action. 
  (Servicing this cartel of cartels is what passes for success these days.) 
  The bankers' first precaution is to buy all the politicians. The 
  second is to buy the major media outlets in order to promote the illusion 
  politicians make decisions and represent our interests. The third 
  precaution is to take control of the education system, ensuring that 
  people stop thinking at an early age. Then the bankers use the 
  government and media to convince us that religion, nationalism, and 
  nuclear family are unfashionable, and we want what they want. We 
  "want" world government ("globalisation"). The bankers need to eliminate 
  nation states, freedom and democracy in order to streamline their business 
  and consolidate their power. The UN, the IMF and World Bank, -- glorified 
  loan sharks and collectors -- will make the laws. We "want" 
  diversity. Countries are not allowed to maintain their national identities 
  or traditions. Last Christmas, Gary Doer, my provincial premier tried to 
  rename the Christmas tree at the legislature a "multicultural tree." 
  Diversity is respecting every culture but our own. Every nation must be 
  heterogeneous and disparate as a box of Smarties  not one of them in a 
  position to challenge the bankers. Or take "feminism." 
  Masquerading as equal rights for women, this Marxist Lesbian ideology is 
  designed to destroy the nuclear family (the basic building block of 
  society) by undermining paternal authority. Cultural differences between 
  men and women are not "stereotypes." But signatories to the latest UN 
  "CEDAW" Convention (recently passed by the US Senate Foreign Relations 
  Committee) will be required to "take all appropriate measures to modify 
  all social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women." (Article 5) 
  This kind of Communist-inspired social engineering is simply 
  persecution of heterosexuals. It is intended to arrest our natural 
  development: the birth rate has halved while the divorce rate has doubled. 
  An army of highly paid lawyers, social workers and bureaucrats treat the 
  casualties. These self-serving do-gooders are the bankers' biggest 
  constituency. People --stunted, love-starved, and sex-obsessed -- 
  without family, religious or national identity, are easy to control. 
  (They'll join anything; they are looking for a family.) But in case of 
  resistance, the bankers have created a bogeyman, "terrorism" to justify a 
  huge security apparatus. The Office of Homeland Security is 
  designed to control us -- the domestic population. Why would this be 
  necessary? We're "in debt" trillions of dollars and the bankers intend 
  that we pay. One day they will take away our toys. In case it's a problem, 
  an Orwellian police state will be in place. But first, the Muslims must be 
  subjugated and robbed. Talking about the United States as if it 
  were an independent country is silly. American politicians pawned U.S. 
  sovereignty in 1913. Ever since, U.S. soldiers have been bullyboys for 
  international bankers, and nothing else. The American taxpayer and 
  soldier made the First World War possible. It started just six months 
  after the establishment of the "Fed". Its purpose was to increase debt, 
  cripple the great European nation states, slaughter a generation, and 
  establish two of the bankers' pet projects: Communism (Russia) and Zionism 

[CTRL] Bush warned taiwan of attack..told them to keep it a secret

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  According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by
USA.
Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter.
Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali.
http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm

If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an
emminent attack?

Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up
international support for his attack on Iraq.
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  onlyNewsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, alt.politics.bushDate: 2002-10-14 03:43:40 PST 
  Yu wrote:
 
 According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by
 USA.
 Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter.
 Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali.
 http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm
 
 If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an
 emminent attack?
 

it was probably a US operation.


 Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up
 international support for his attack on Iraq.

-- 
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That
is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman
Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials

"Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I 
never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. 
We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want 
to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the 
theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison 
of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as 
a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler

*The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford
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Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.
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 Yu wrote:
 
  According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by
  USA.
  Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter.
  Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali.
  http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm
 
  If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an
  emminent attack?
 

 it was probably a US operation.


  Nush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up
  international support for his attack on Iraq.

 --
 "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That
 is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
 denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
 country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman
 Goering (second in command to Adolf Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trials

 "Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I
 never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity ..
 We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want
 to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the
 theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison
 of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as
 a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." - Hitler

 *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford
 University
 Press, 1942), pg. 

[CTRL] Aussies suspicious of US

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10/13/02 10:14:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time 

Dear Jeff, 
Just a few weeks ago many Australians saw a 
TV interview with a somewhat gruff US Ambassador to OZ who, seemingly upset with 
the prevalent (majority) popular objection of Australian citizens to Australia's 
involvement in the planned US military invasion of Iraq (or "Regime Change" as 
it has become known in extant "Poli-Speak"), warned us that Australia was not 
immune to Al Qaeda style terrorist action. Crazy as it seems at first sight many 
who saw this interview gleaned his attitudeto actually be an unspoken but 
implied threat of terrorist action if we did not mend our wayward 
non-compliantattitudes  
Our OZ ways have included a rising anguish at the 
treatment of the Palestinians by the forces of Israel as directed by Sharon and 
supported by Bush, AND a very widespread and fast setting viewagainst 
helping in the US plans for a military invasion of Iraq, coupled with an 
increasing anger at the new Pax Americana planetary policies of Dubya's 
USA. 
Meanwhile in Europethe Germans were fighting an 
internal political election battle over Yes-No re support for the planned US 
military invasion of Iraq. The NO side won and Germany came down solidly against 
any involvement in, or UN support for, the planned US-Iraq war.Similarly 
France held out against the USA and, although willing to support renewed UN site 
investigations, refused to back the US demand for stronger UN 
resolutionsthat would automatically lead via a short fuse to a rapid UN 
supported war on Iraq. Reportedlythe vast majority of other European 
populations are also dead set against this new US war. Not only these peoples 
but also a very large percentage of Britons are similarly dis-interested in this 
new American game - with it's very real risk of devolution into World War 
III. 
Then within a few days we were presented with fresh 
Al Jazeera TV announcements (a) that Osama bin Laden (aka they seek him here - 
they seek him there - the elusive pimpernel) was alive and well, and (2) a 
message -reportedly from another Al Qaeda Chief - threatening terrorist 
attacks against both French and German interests. These news items were 
immediately followed by a terrorist attack -an explosive laden motor boat 
against a French Super-Tanker off the coast of Yemen. 
 
Back in OZ we simultaneously experienced nation 
wide TV warnings by oneRohan Gunaratna, the author of "Inside Al 
Qaeda". This previously unknown to us "expert on 
terrorism"issued a specific warningthat Al Qaeda members have 
been trained to destroy targets in Australia,stating thathe'd been 
given the information during debriefings of captured Al Qaeda members. Amazing 
how this author got access to these prisoners - the most tightly held since the 
Gulag Archipelago - and national TV airtime across OZ - he must have some very 
interesting connections.. 
 
Then last night there occurred the horrendous and 
despicable terrorist bombings of two night clubs in Bali - frequented 
predominantly byholidaying Australians. First reports talk of +182 dead 
(with the count expected to climb) plus hundreds wounded including many horribly 
burned. These casualtiesinclude many young Australian, English, German, 
Dutch, and Indonesian-Balinese. 
 
Just what sort of "Muslim Terrorist" threatens to 
bomb the persons and interests of people who are basically for Human Rights in 
Palestine and against the US Dubya Bush plans for an invasion of Iraq ??? What 
sort of IDIOT would then do so and thereby ruin this genuine grass roots support 
for their cause within Germany, France, Britain, Holland etc, and Australia 
??? 
 
Strangely unlike the Northern Irish or Basque 
terrorist actions these latest bombings of people and assets have NOT been 
followed by any public claims of authorship and their cause. 
 
However this omission has been corrected by our 
Australian TV which has been running pictures of Saddam Hussein andlinking 
the blasts to Al Qaeda or off-shoot SE Asian Muslim organisations - throughout 
tonight's Bali Bombing News slots. 
 
We are told tonight by our new ABC "terrorist guru" 
- Rohan Gunaratna - that "ONLY Al Qadea have the intention and ability to 
carryout such terrorist bombings as that in Bali"... 

 
I seem to recall an almost identical line being 
spunon US TV - just minutes after the 9-11New York Twin Trade Tower 
incidents . ONLY AL QAEDA can do this - NO ONE else - do not 
forget this viewers !!! 
 
Obviously the Al Qaeda group lack quality spin 
doctors and planners amongst their other key personnel - the ones with the "sole 
planetary ability to mount such terrorist attacks" - since better strategic 
planning would presumably strike real enemies of the Muslim or Iraqi world - not 
their potential or real allies. 
 
Equally obviously such claims that Al Qaeda are the 
ONLY possible sources of such terrorism are 

Re: [CTRL] Sollog: Maryland Shootings a SATANIC SACRIFICE!

2002-10-14 Thread William Shannon
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This is total and complete bullshit!
Utterly bullshit.
Idiotic psychoreligious paranoia.

Typical of screwed up brains like Shannon's.

You sure are hostile!!
Take a handful of Seconal and wash it down with a bottle of Manichevitz why don't ya? 

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SETTLER VIOLENCE IN HEBRON



 [This sharply
critical report on settler violence appeared today in Glasgow's Sunday
Herald.  It discusses a group of 400
armed, Israeli extremists in Hebron who are
stealing Palestinian homes, locking out the owners, and systematically
destroying and replacing their property. The settlers intend to take over the
city and sabotage any peace plan that 

requires them to
leave (which is to say any peace plan worthy of the name).  



Under the indulgent watch of 2500 Israeli soldiers, they
have formed five settlement blocks in the old part of town and are destroying
ancient Palestinian artifacts and throwing urine down into the city
marketplace.



These actions have been repeatedly legitimized by the
Israeli government which recognizes the settlers' property claims and refuses
to check their violence. This flies in the face of any Israeli government claim
to desire peaceful coexistence with Palestinians.  As an international monitor from the
Christian Peacemaker team in Hebron says,
People ask us, 'Why don't you try and do reconciliation work?' But the
settlers don't want reconciliation. Their presence here is a hostile act, a
very hostile takeover.



For more information about settler violence from the Israeli
peace group, B'Tselem, see: http://www.btselem.org/--
JN]



Bloody takeover vandalises holiest
city Jessica McCallin

Sunday Herald

Sunday 13th
 October 2002



Brandishing machine-guns Israeli settlers are invading Hebron, locking Palestinians
out of their homes and city amid riots of retaliation.

http://www.sundayherald.com/28387



When the Sharawi family left their
house in September they only intended to be away for a few weeks. They planned
to stay in a village near their farmland for the harvest season before
returning to their home in Hebron in October.
Now they are homeless. Last week their house, as well as their neighbour's, was taken over by Israeli settlers. The locks
have been changed, the doors bolted, and a refurbishment job is under way.



It's a common occurrence in Hebron, a city in
the southern West Bank, where 400
armed, extremist settlers have moved into the centre of town, establishing five
tiny settlement blocks amid the 100,000 Palestinians residents with the aim of
taking over the city. The Sharawi family, along with
the other 30,000 Palestinians living in the old part of town -- the 

900-year-old Kasbah where the settlements are located -- are
the worst off.



In late July, two houses belonging to the Sharabati family, which adjoin the Avraham
Avinu settlement, were targeted. One 21-room house
belonging to Izzedine Sharabati,
which doubled as a museum of Palestinian art and folklore,
was completely vandalised by settlers within three
days. Every single object and piece of furniture -- including a library
containing 1000-year-old books -- was destroyed. The settlers 

[CTRL] Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy

2002-10-14 Thread William Shannon
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BREAKING: ILLUMINATI DEFECTOR DETAILS PERVASIVE CONSPIRACY. By World-Class Author Henry Makow, Ph.D.   
Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy 

Satanic Cult Plans "Fourth Reich"

By Henry Makow, Ph.D


If you detect the devil's hand in current events, you may be closer to the truth than you think.

A woman who was raised in the Illuminati cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising 1% of the U.S. population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast "the war on terror" and "homeland security" in a new light. 

"Svali" is the pseudonym of a woman, age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert power and agenda. 

She describes a sadistic Satanic cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely homosexual and pedophile, practices animal sacrifice and ritual murder. It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist (German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/40931) It may be behind political assassination, and "terrorism," including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast. 

It has infiltrated government on a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions; religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics. One other detail: these people are not very happy.

Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists, and suggests that much of the world "elite" may be engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy.

In March 2000, Svali began writing a monthly column for survivors of Illuminati ritual abuse at Suite101.com. (http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/ritual_abuse) In December 2000, H.J. Springer, the editor of CentrExNews,com contacted Svali and conducted an extended 18-part interview with her by email, which is reproduced on line and is copyrighted. (http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/Svali/archive.html)

"I am convinced she is the real McCoy," Springer wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email messages to her from other members ritually abused, brainwashed, raped, sexually abused people  you name it-- some of them confirming to me her story. So I have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of the Illuminati since childhood." 

I also trust Svali's testimony because it confirms my intuition and research. Everything fits: from the dead hand that seems to suppress humanity to why Clinton gave secret technology to the Chinese to reports of concentration camps in the US. It explains why certain people I know behave in a conspiratorial way. I thank Svali for giving me a frightening but incredible key to understanding the world. 

A friend warned me to be skeptical of a hoax and offered to help me confirm her personal story. I accepted his offer. I urge you to read her entire testimony and make up your own mind. Read "Part One" to "Part 18" first, starting at the middle of the list and working up. 

With their permission, here are highlights of Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J. Springer. I have also included material from her article "Are the Illuminati Taking Over the World?" (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556)

Pervasive Presence

Svali: "The Illuminati are present in every major metropolitan center in the United States. The Illuminati believe in controlling an area through its: banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local government: guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law: children are encouraged to go to law school and medical school. Media: others are encouraged to go to journalism school, and members help fund local papers. 

Beliefs

Svali: "The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set" I do know that these people teach and 

[CTRL] Micro Nuke Used in Bali Terrorist Lookalike Attack - Zionists forcing Australi

2002-10-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/nuke/bali_nuke.htm



Micro Nuke Used in Bali “Terrorist” Lookalike Attack
Zionists forcing Australian support for American war on Iraq

Copyright Joe Vialls, 14 October 2002   

At 11.05 p.m. local time on Saturday night, a giant blast scattered pieces of the Sari Nightclub right across Kuta Beach in Bali, Indonesia. Though two other synchronized blasts shook the American Consulate and a Philippines travel agency office at exactly the same time, there were no injuries or deaths at these other locations, both of which served as mere “flash cards” to reinforce the unexpected presence of “Al Qaeda” in this beautiful tourist paradise.
 
Al who? So far as I am aware, the Muslim world does not yet have access to a sophisticated “Special Atomic Demolition Munitions [SADM]”, one of which certainly went critical in a sewer more than four feet below the road bed outside the Sari club. Within five microseconds of detonation the awesome million-foot-per-second shock wave hurled two tons of road bed and sand particles upwards and outward in a deadly fan, cutting tourists to bloody ribbons and hurling body parts for several blocks. The body count is currently 187, with more than 300 injured.
 
The blast from this weapon was so severe that its detonation terminally damaged 47 buildings in the immediate area, and trashed more than one hundred vehicles. In the words of a tourist who earlier survived attacks on London during the nineties, “I felt my hotel shake violently and ran to look out of the window. In the distance I could see a large white mushroom cloud, and knew I wasn’t looking at an ordinary attack.”
 
Photographic evidence proving the use of an unconventional weapon was edited out almost immediately by the major media, though not from the amateur video camera which provided the picture at top center above. It alone shows the deep crater being probed by Indonesian police and military with a [very long] pole. The very presence of the crater itself proves the weapon was detonated sub-surface, while the crater’s depth in combination with its diameter, prove the depth at which the weapon was initially placed.
 
Anyone doubting the nuclear identity of this weapon should take a look at the biggest car bombs detonated in Northern Ireland during the thirty years of trouble, which ranged in size up to 1,000 pounds of conventional explosive. None of them left craters in the road, because simple physics dictate that shock waves always takes the line of least resistance – largely outwards and upwards to atmosphere. Nor am I aware of any 1,000 pound IRA car bomb trashing 47 buildings and 100 vehicles  

An equally valid example would be the Israeli destruction of Arafat’s compound in Ramallah. Overall, the Jewish State took more than a week to trash significantly fewer than 47 buildings, despite the fact they were brazenly attacking every day with multiple 120-mm tank guns and Hellfire missiles. 
 
It is factual information like this that helps us to analyze the available evidence at the crime scene, in order to determine which weapon or weapons were used, and hopefully by whom. At the very minimum the damage caused in the Kuta Beach area would require an 8,000 pound HE blast-bomb of the sort used on London during the Second World War. Problem! How on earth do you squeeze 8,000 pounds of very bulky low-specific-gravity HE into a twelve-inch diameter sewerage pipe, located nearly five feet underground?
 
Obviously what you need is a specialized weapon significantly less than twelve inches in diameter, but with a blast capability significantly in excess of 8,000 pounds of conventional explosive. Believe me people, there is only one weapon for the job, which explains why you will probably never see the damning crater picture at the top of this page anywhere else.
 
The actual photograph of SADM shown below is of an early version nominally rated at 10 tons TNT equivalent. More recent variants are as small as a coffee mug, though still very heavy, and have explosive yields ranging from 2 to 100 tons TNT equivalent. Nations possessing such weapons include America, Britain, France, Israel and Russia, with China a distinct possibility. In turn, under top-secret defense agreements with one of more of the above nations, certain Commonwealth and other countries maintain a strictly limited stock of “proxy weapons” on their own sovereign territory.

Bearing in mind the fact that Bali is a hugely popular destination for Australians, many of whom were killed in the blast, the attack seems aimed at shifting Australian public opinion towards an attack on Iraq, or even an attack on Islam in general. 
 
Until now most Australians have been loudly opposed to any premeditated strike on the Middle East, to the point where the only people in Australia blatantly playing “Rambo” and apparently obeying the American Zionists without question, are Prime 

[CTRL] Al Martin: The BUDsterization of America by the Bush Cabal

2002-10-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.almartinraw.com/column75.html



The BUDsterization of America by the Bush Cabal
by Al Martin


(October 14) The BUDsterization of America is almost finished. Because of Bushonomics, the American people are becoming BUDsterized. They are in other words, Broke, Useless and Depressed, i.e. BUDsters. This was a phrase I created which was popularized for a while and then everybody started using it. People would call in on radio talk shows and say, "Al, I've been BUDsterized." And everybody knew what they meant.

 The rallies in the market continue to be fake-out rallies and we recommended shorting into it. Those who followed our advice did very well by the end of the week. The sell off has come from what we previously reported - concerns for underfunded fixed pension schemes at US corporations. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler have admitted that the arrearages in their fixed pension systems are billions more than initially reported. This then leads to this thought -- how many other corporations are there with fixed pension plans, which are dramatically underfunded because the Reagan Bush/ Bush II Regimes purposely allowed corporations to skirt the law when it came to their pension contributions in exchange for large campaign donations to the RNC?

 The other upcoming problem is the enormous amount of money that has been lost by the individual state, county, and munuipal pension systems. As CALPERS (California State Pension System) itself admitted, it may take decades to recover.

 There is no longer enough pension money in the states to pay out the pensions in the years to come. The states are left with some very unpalatable choices-either cut pension benefits (reduce pensions) or, for the first time since the Great Depression, states are going to have to use general tax revenue to subsidize pension systems.

 There isn't any money left. The money has been transferred to shadowy offshore Republican controlled accounts that were short the markets. There literally isn't any money left in the country.

 Since the markets are a zero sum game, where has the liquidity gone? The liquidity has gone to Republican controlled offshore trading accounts, which will then be buying back stocks at ten cents on the dollar. It's the old Bushonian trick. The government, through its own economic malfeasance, takes everything down, then the Bush Cabal who were short the whole time (all the money got transferred to them) then repatriate the money and buy everything back for ten cents on the dollar. It's a great scheme. The Bush Cabalists accounts grow fat as the markets crash.

 Pro-Gov Net Media (Pro-Government Network Media) has consistently been marching out the same old mutual fund guys aligned with the Republican Party or the same old analysts who work for firms that are aligned with the Republicans who kept saying, "Buy, buy, buy."

 More recently, however, they're bringing out analysts who actually know what they're talking about and who are not politically aligned. They present information, which echoes what we've been saying. Everyday, the situation has become more dire.

 As we had previously predicted and as the White House finally confirmed, the US Government will now move to a cheap dollar policy in an effort to stimulate exports. Of course, this has always proved to be a bad idea in the past. When the US Government has purposely tried to cheapen the dollar, it has always boomeranged on them. The reason why the Bush Administration wants to do it is to spur export growth.

 The Bush Administration has admitted that when you cheapen the dollar you create an inflationary implication. Insofar as inflation is already so low and we are suffering from a global deflation, they're not worried about the inflationary impact. But there's a two-fold negative when you cheapen the dollar - the other negative is that you cause an exodus of foreign money out of your own country when you cheapen your own currency. This is foreign money, which our government relies on almost 100% in order to finance its ever-increasing federal budget deficits. This money leaving means that this in itself could push interest rates higher.

 The government has the ability to create an artificial demand for money. In other words, it's not a demand for money created through an increase in gross domestic product or an increase in consumer spending. It is being generated by our ever-increasing needs to finance debt. It's an artificial demand created through deficit financing.

 If you cheapen your own currency and chase that money out of your own country, that money isn't going to be so quick to come back again -- unless you make it worthwhile. Money flows to where it is best treated, so the United States would have to figure in a "risk premium" if they want that money back. Therefore interest rates would have to rise. The coupon rate that US Treasuries pay are now at forty year lows and they would have to rise in order to 

[CTRL] New Clues In God's Banker (Roberto Calvi) Death

2002-10-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,811240,00.html



New clue turns up in 'God's banker' death 

Philip Willan in Rome
Monday October 14, 2002
The Guardian 

Italian investigators have discovered a safety deposit box belonging to Roberto Calvi some 20 years after "God's banker" was found hanging from scaffolding under Blackfriars Bridge in London. 

The safety deposit box, held at a Milan branch of the Banco Ambrosiano of which Calvi was chairman, reportedly contained a builder's brick, newspaper articles dating from the summer of 1981 and documents which police hope will help them to solve the puzzle of the banker's death. 

One mystery they will seek to clarify is how the bank safe remained unnoticed for all these years. It was registered in the names of Calvi and his mother and in recent years had been under the control of one of his brothers, Leone. 

The safe reportedly came to light two weeks ago and investigators have since searched four properties belonging to Leone Calvi for further clues. 

The Banco Ambrosiano chairman was found hanged in London in 1982 following the £770m collapse of his bank in a financial scandal that implicated the Vatican, the Mafia and international Freemasonry. 

Investigators said that the brick, wrapped in a copy of the newspaper Corriere della Sera, could constitute a cryptic reference to the Freemasons, as well as recalling the brick fragments that were found on Calvi's body - in his pockets and stuffed down the front of his trousers. 

"That brick could be a warning, a message in code," an unnamed investigator told the Rome daily Il Messaggero. 

Calvi's son, Carlo, expressed astonishment yesterday at the discovery. 

"That safety deposit box should have been handed over from the beginning. Something hasn't worked as it should have done within the bank, and I would like to know the reason why," he told the Rome daily La Repubblica. 

Rome prosecutors are awaiting the results of a fresh post-mortem examination of the banker's body, which is expected to confirm that he was murdered. 

In 1997 they charged several Mafiosi and a Sardinian businessman, Flavio Carboni, with complicity in his murder. Mafia turncoats have accused the self-confessed Mafia boss Francesco Di Carlo, who lived in the UK, of strangling Calvi to punish him for absconding with some of Cosa Nostra's money. 

Mr Di Carlo, who is himself now collaborating with the investigators, denies the charge. 





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[CTRL] Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President

2002-10-14 Thread Shane Saylor
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Sunday 
Herald - 15 
September 2002

Bush planned 
Iraq 'regime change' before becoming 
President
By Neil 
Mackay


 
A SECRET blueprint for 
US global domination reveals that President Bush and 
his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on 
Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power 
in January 2001.

 
The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 
'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), 
Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George 
W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The 
document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And 
Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the 
neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century 
(PNAC).
 
The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the 
Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The 
United 
States 
has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. 
While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for 
a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the 
regime of Saddam Hussein.'
 
The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US 
pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the 
international security order in line with American principles and 
interests'.
 
This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the 
future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the 
US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous 
major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.
 
The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the 
new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written 
by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from 
challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global 
role'.
 
The PNAC report also:
· 
refers to key allies such 
as the UK as 'the most effective and efficient means of 
exercising American global leadership';
· 
describes peace-keeping 
missions as 'demanding American political leadership rather than that of the 
United Nations';
· 
reveals worries in the 
administration that Europe could rival the 
USA;
· 
says 'even should Saddam 
pass from the scene' bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently -- 
despite domestic opposition in the Gulf regimes to the stationing of US troops 
-- as 'Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq 
has';
· 
spotlights 
China for 'regime change' saying 'it is time to increase 
the presence of American forces in southeast Asia'. This, it says, may lead to 
'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation 
in China';
· 
calls for the creation of 
'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to 
prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the 
US;
· 
hints that, despite 
threatening war against Iraq for developing weapons of mass destruction, the 
US may consider developing biological weapons -- which 
the nation has banned -- in decades to come. It says: 'New methods of attack -- 
electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat 
likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the 
world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' 
specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to 
a politically useful tool';
· 
and pinpoints 
North 
Korea, 
Libya, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes and says their existence 
justifies the creation of a 'world-wide command-and-control 
system'.
 
Tam Dalyell, the Labour MP, father of the House of Commons and one of the 
leading rebel voices against war with Iraq, said: 'This is garbage from 
right-wing think-tanks stuffed with chicken-hawks -- men who have never seen the 
horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were 
draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war. 
'This is a blueprint for US 
world domination -- a new world order of their making. These are the thought 
processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world. I am appalled 
that a British Labour Prime Minister should have got into bed with a crew which 
has this moral standing.'
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Re: [CTRL] Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy

2002-10-14 Thread Rose
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Good grief - read this.
William Shannon wrote:
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http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=1324


BREAKING: ILLUMINATI DEFECTOR DETAILS
PERVASIVE CONSPIRACY. By World-Class Author Henry Makow, Ph.D.
Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive
Conspiracy
Satanic Cult Plans "Fourth Reich"
By Henry Makow, Ph.D

If you detect the devil's hand in
current events, you may be closer to the truth than you think.
A woman who was raised in the Illuminati
cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising 1% of the U.S.
population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly
preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast "the war on terror"
and "homeland security" in a new light.
"Svali" is the pseudonym of a woman,
age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the
sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting
to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert
power and agenda.
She describes a sadistic Satanic
cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely
homosexual and pedophile, practices animal sacrifice and ritual murder.
It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist
(German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls
the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/40931)
It may be behind political assassination, and "terrorism," including Sept.
11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast.
It has infiltrated government on
a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions;
religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that
will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics.
One other detail: these people are not very happy.
Svali's courageous testimony explains
why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being
habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending
into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George
W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists, and suggests that much
of the world "elite" may be engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy.
In March 2000, Svali began writing
a monthly column for survivors of Illuminati ritual abuse at Suite101.com.
(http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/ritual_abuse) In December 2000, H.J.
Springer, the editor of CentrExNews,com contacted Svali and conducted an
extended 18-part interview with her by email, which is reproduced on line
and is copyrighted. (http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/Svali/archive.html)
"I am convinced she is the real
McCoy," Springer wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email
messages to her from other members ritually abused, brainwashed, raped,
sexually abused people  you name it-- some of them confirming to me
her story. So I have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of the
Illuminati since childhood."
I also trust Svali's testimony because
it confirms my intuition and research. Everything fits: from the dead hand
that seems to suppress humanity to why Clinton gave secret technology to
the Chinese to reports of concentration camps in the US. It explains why
certain people I know behave in a conspiratorial way. I thank Svali for
giving me a frightening but incredible key to understanding the world.
A friend warned me to be skeptical
of a hoax and offered to help me confirm her personal story. I accepted
his offer. I urge you to read her entire testimony and make up your own
mind. Read "Part One" to "Part 18" first, starting at the middle of the
list and working up.
With their permission, here are
highlights of Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J. Springer.
I have also included material from her article "Are the Illuminati Taking
Over the World?" (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556)
Pervasive Presence
Svali: "The Illuminati are present
in every major metropolitan center in the United States. The Illuminati
believe in controlling an area through its: banks and financial institutions
(guess how many sit on banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local government:
guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law: children are encouraged
to go to law school and medical school. Media: others are encouraged to
go to journalism school, and members help fund local papers.
Beliefs
Svali: "The Illuminati is a group
that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian,
and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient
mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken
what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and
joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at
the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte",
as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set" I 

[CTRL] pornography, memory, sniper, clergy abuse, body stolen

2002-10-14 Thread Smart News
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this may be very heavy for survivors

New Face for Pornography - Authority Figures Caught in ‘Candyman' Internet Porn Ring By Bryan Robinson 3/19 - "...arrests in "Operation Candyman" revealed a growing marketplace for child pornography and a different kind of pornographer: the seemingly upstanding citizen who could be anyone, including a parish priest or a school bus driveraccording to federal law enforcement officials, many of those arrested in the government's year-long sting operation on a Internet child porn ring set up by an e-mail group called "Candyman" included members of the clergy, teachers, law enforcement officers and others entrusted with caring for children. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/netporn020318.html

from Backlash - Nearly 4 years after an event: Children's eyewitness memory and adults'perceptions of children's accuracy. Goodman GS, Batterman-Faunce JM, Schaaf JM, Kenney R Child Abuse Negl 2002 Aug; 26(8):849-84 "Children were generally resistant to suggestions that abuse occurred during a long-ago generally forgotten event, but some potentially concerning errors were made." From: Department of Psychology, University of California-Davis, 95616, USA.

fyi only - Maryland Shootings a Satanic Sacrifice! Map of Shootings Shows Cross of Satan Written By D.E. Alexander http://www.247news.net/2002/20021004-mdshootings.shtml

Independent inquiry clears Australia's most senior Catholic cleric of sex abuse Allegations Mike Corder, 10/14/02 Sydney, Australia (AP) - Australia's most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Sydney Archbishop George Pell, has been cleared of sex abuse allegations, the church said."http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2002/10/14/international0615EDT0483.DTL

Voodoo Furor in Body Snatch by Jamie Schram and Brad Hunter 10/10/02 - "cops say members of the Afro-Cuban Palo Mayombe cult stole his body from its crypt in January 1999 for use in perverted religious ceremonies." "Officials said there has been a rash of body thefts in the area and they worry that Palo - an offshoot of Santeria - is spreading." http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/59392.htm 
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[CTRL] British envoy `proud' of critical comments made against Israel

2002-10-14 Thread flw

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Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Cheshvan 9, 5763
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=219662contrassI
D=2subContrassID=1sbSubContrassID=0listSrc=Y
Israel Time:  03:39  (GMT+2)

British envoy `proud' of critical comments made against Israel

By Charlotte Halle

 The British ambassador to Israel, Sherard Cowper-Coles, says he is proud
of his comments that were published yesterday and in which he described the
West Bank and Gaza Strip as the biggest detention camp in the world.

In the report, Cowper-Coles is attributed with accusing Israel of
contravening the Geneva Convention and the Israel Defense Forces of
displaying a lack of professionalism, during a leaked conversation last
week with IDF Major General Amos Gilad, coordinator of government
activities in the territories.

Cowper-Coles told Ha'aretz yesterday that the comments, reported in the
Yedioth Ahronot daily, were exaggerated, but broadly true.

The ambassador also criticized Israel for continuing to build settlements,
for the unnecessary humiliation and harassment of the local civilian
population at checkpoints, unnecessarily uprooting trees and making life
difficult for the international welfare organizations, according to the
report.

Cowper-Coles says he did not regret his comments, which were made in the
spirit of friendship. He said he was very shocked by what he has seen in
the territories, as anyone else who visited there would be.

Anyone who is a friend of Israel would say what I said, he told Ha'aretz,
because [it is clear the situation] is certainly not good for the
Palestinians, or for Israel.

The comments reported in Yedioth Ahronot were made during a private
conversation, with Gilad, on instructions from London, and followed an
earlier meeting with the Israeli general in the British capital last month,
says Cowper-Coles.

He added the source of the leak - the Foreign Ministry or someone - was
very selective in what he chose to reveal of the conversation with Gilad
that lasted for more than an hour.

Cowper-Coles says his many references to the suffering of Israelis due to
terrorism, security pressures and difficulties relating to pulling out of
the territories were not conveyed. It's a pity because it's not the whole
truth. If it emerges that someone in the Foreign Ministry leaked the
story, Cowper-Coles said, it certainly won't increase my respect of the
ministry. We don't believe in megaphone diplomacy.

The ambassador, who has learned to speak a competent level of Hebrew since
arriving here just over a year ago, has been widely interviewed on Israeli
television and radio.

He was recently praised for the sensitivity he displayed when dealing with
Israeli terror victims and their families.

Yesterday, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said the ministry had adopted a
serious view of Cowper-Coles's remarks.

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[CTRL] Roll Away the Dew: an Exegesis of Robert Hunter's Franklin's Tower

2002-10-14 Thread RoadsEnd

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http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/shalit.html

...pushing the limits of 18th century technology...

Roll Away the Dew: an Exegesis of Robert Hunter's Franklin's Tower
 By Andrew Shalit. (email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Reproduced for the Annotated
Grateful Dead Lyrics by permission of the author, who retains all rights.

Copyright notice.

As you probably know, Robert Hunter has a great of love of American History.
The song is about events during the American revolution. 'Franklin' refers to
Benjamin Franklin. The 'Bell' in the tower is the Liberty Bell.

Casting large metal objects is a complicated process. Casting bells is
additonally complicated by the fact that bells must be able to withstand the
stress of ringing, and they must produce a good tone. The Liberty Bell was
not only very large, but it needed to ring loudly and clearly enough to be
heard around the world. This was pushing the limits of 18th century
technology.

As you probably know, Benjamin Franklin was not only a philosopher and
statesman, he was an inventor. He was involved in the design of the Liberty
Bell in the following way:

Franklin postulated that a process which he called dewing could be used to
improve the production process of large bells. Dewing basically involves
exposing the freshly cast bell to large quantities of steam while the bell is
still hot. The steam causes a rapid cooling, producing droplet of 'dew' on
the bell. After the dew is formed, the bell is rolled between large cotton
sheets. He described this process as rolling away the dew.

Unfortunately, Franklin's contempories had a very hard time understanding his
technology. He showed them sample bells, asking him to simply look at the
results without trying to understand the process. This was when he uttered
the now famous quote, if you get confused, listen to the music play.

In the end, Franklin couldn't convince the foundry to use his dewing process.
Instead they used an alternate process developed by a Frenchman named Simon
Legree (who eventually turned out to be a British agent). Simon's process
involved planting small ice crystals (seeds) into the metal while the bell
was being cast.

As we all know, the Liberty Bell didn't last very long. I believe it had one
good ring, but you can't really tell because it was so long ago.

Apparently the one time it was rung was during a storm. After ringing, the
famous crack developed in the side of the bell and the wind blew through the
crack. They tried ringing the bell again, but the only sound was of the wind
blowing through the crack.

Benjamin Franklin was understandably disgusted. When asked later about the
incident, his only comment was They planted ice, so they harvested wind.
The ice refers to an alternate dewing process they used at the suggestion of
a rival inventor (I'll spare you the details, but he turned out to be quite a
Tory). The wind, of course, is the lack of sound from subseqent ringings.

A second meaning (Hunter's always the punster) relates to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt. The musical structure of Franklin's Tower is similar to that of
Deal. Hunter was suprised that Jerry would write two such similar songs,
and so he considered Franklin's Tower a New Deal.

It's really remarkable, the breadth of our culture that Hunter manages to
work into his lyrics.

By the way, Franklin's Tower (the real one, not the song) has since been
converted to a bridge. If anyone's interested in buying it, let me know.

On July 17, I received this message from Andrew Shalit:

From: Andrew LM Shalit
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Franklin's Tower Facts

Dear Andrew:

[Actual text deleted at request of sender: query had to do with Shalit's
sources--dd]

Most of my research was conducted with the assistance of the Silent Tristero,
historical division. A number of descendents of Benjamin Franklin gave me
information, but only on the grounds that I keep their names confidential, as
well as the specifics of the information they gave me. They are, under
standably, concerned for their safety given the sensitivity of the subject.

The James Madison historical society provided some very useful background
papers, but I'm afraid those were destroyed in a fire of suspicious origin
about two years. His whole house was burned to the ground. Sad.

One cautionary note. Stay away from the DAR (Daughters of the American
Revolution). They take this issue very seriously, believing that the original
Liberty Bell was actually a Liberty Belle, a young woman known to many of the
founding fathers --- they claim that she had a substantial role in the
drafting many of the early documents, going so far as to give her a hand in
the declaration of independence and consitution! I don't think it would be

[CTRL] What's Well That Falls Well?

2002-10-14 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021013-30498908.htm

The Washington Times
www.washtimes.com



Rage meets Falwell's comment


Published 10/13/2002



 FROM COMBINED DISPATCHES
 BEIRUT, Lebanon — Shi'ite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with 
rage at
the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet a terrorist, and an envoy of Iran's 
supreme
leader reportedly called for his death.
 Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing Friday prayers in the
northwestern town of Tabriz, said Mr. Falwell was a mercenary and must be killed, the
Farsi-language daily Abrar reported yesterday.
 The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the
Christian community, Mr. Shabestari, a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader 
Ayatollah
Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
 In an interview broadcast last week on the CBS program 60 Minutes, Mr. Falwell 
said
in reference to the Prophet, I think Muhammad was a terrorist.
 Mr. Falwell, a conservative Baptist minister, said he has concluded from reading 
Muslim
and non-Muslim writers that Islam's prophet was a violent man, a man of war.
 But Mr. Falwell apologized yesterday for calling the Prophet Muhammad a terrorist.
 I sincerely apologize that certain statements of mine made during an interview 
for the
September 30 edition of CBS's '60 Minutes' were hurtful to the feelings of many 
Muslims,
the preacher said in a statement issued in Lynchburg, Va.
 I intended no disrespect to any sincere, law abiding Muslim, Mr. Falwell added.
 In presenting his apologies, Mr. Falwell said that in his more than 50 years of 
Christian
ministry, he had never preached a sermon on Islam, nor written a book or pamphlet on 
the
subject.
 I have always shown respect for other religions, faiths and denominations, he 
said.
Unfortunately, I answered one controversial and loaded question at the conclusion of 
an
hourlong CBS interview which I should not have answered. That was a mistake and I
apologize.
 In Lebanon yesterday, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah called on Muslim
countries to respond to Mr. Falwell's comments on CBS, which, he said, had infringed 
on
the prophet [Muhammad´s] dignity.
 Mr. Fadlallah, however, cautioned against resorting to physical violence 
against Mr.
Falwell, saying Islam is a religion of mercy and love.
 In a statement issued in Beirut, Mr. Fadlallah also urged Muslims worldwide to 
counter
what he called a cultural war launched against Islam after the September 11 terrorist
attacks on New York and Washington.
 Mr. Fadlallah, 67, has condemned the September 11 attacks. He is a senior Shi'ite
religious authority and a harsh critic of U.S. policies in the Middle East.
 In August, Mr. Fadlallah issued a fatwa, or religious edict, banning Muslims from
assisting the United States and its allies if they attack Iraq. He also urged Muslims 
to
withdraw their money from U.S. markets for fear they may be frozen or confiscated.
 Earlier this week, another Shi'ite cleric in Iran, Ayatollah Hussein Nouri 
Hamedani, called
on Muslims to cut relations with the United States. He accused Mr. Falwell of 
implementing
a Zionist plan to cause a clash between Islam and Christianity.
 But other Muslim clerics held different opinions.
 Although [Falwell´s] opinion is insulting, he can be answered through dialogue 
so that
all ambiguities in his mind are cleared, Iranian Ayatollah Hussein Mousavi Tabrizi 
said.
 Mr. Tabrizi refused to compare Mr. Falwell to British author Salman Rushdie, 
against
whom the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the father of the Iranian revolution, 
issued a
death verdict in the 1980s for blaspheming Islam in his book Satanic Verses.
 Rushdie is a symbol of the red line between Islamic countries and the West. But 
we will
not issue a death verdict against the priest. Iran is a country that promotes dialogue 
among
civilizations, Mr. Tabrizi said in an interview yesterday.

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[CTRL] Secret Weapon

2002-10-14 Thread Euphorian

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From

http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-tribes14oct14004436,0,1403442.story

THE WORLD

Iraq's Tribes May Provide a Secret Weapon for Hussein

One of the largest groups could serve as a militia, complicating action by American 
forces.
The regime has nurtured them with aid.

By Michael Slackman
Times Staff Writer

October 14 2002

AL RASHEED, Iraq -- AL RASHEED, Iraq -- The Iraqi army, the Republican Guard and even
his Baath Party are among Saddam Hussein's main military forces. But one of the Iraqi
leader's secret weapons may well be a 72-year-old man who wears flowing desert robes
and lives with his family in this village just south of Baghdad.

He is Khudeir Abbas Hamdan Shwerid, a mild-mannered grandfather who, since age 15,
has been the leader, or sheik, of one of Iraq's largest tribes, the Abu Hamdan.

The sheik says the tribe has hundreds of thousands of members spread across Iraq --
people bound by birth to a group with roots stretching to the Omayyad Empire in the 7th
century. They are, at least for now, loyal to Hussein and are prepared to serve as a 
militia
fighting foreign forces and as a national guard that could quell internal conflicts.

The Abu Hamdan are one small piece of a larger weapon. Hundreds of tribes are scattered
throughout this land. And whereas previous Iraqi rulers have tried to crush the tribes 
for
fear they would challenge their authority, Hussein has nurtured them, winning their 
good
favor with money and supplies.

No one is saying the tribes could match the firepower of the U.S. armed forces in the 
event
of an invasion, but they promise to complicate any military operation. Perhaps more
consequential to U.S. policymakers, the tribal system adds yet another balkanizing 
element
to a society already fractured along ethnic and religious lines. Should the Hussein 
regime
fall, a replacement government would have to win the hearts of not only the Sunnis and
Shiites, the Kurds and Turkomans, but the hundreds of tribal leaders to whom they're 
also
loyal.

Yes, we will resist anyone who comes here, using our own weapons, Shwerid said while
seated inside a guest house he uses to greet tribal members who travel from around the
country seeking his help and advice. The tribe is fully cooperating with the 
government.

Conversely, if a significant number of tribes abandoned their fealty to the regime, a 
drive to
topple Hussein might be strengthened. But there is ample evidence that tribes could 
play a
crucial role in helping Hussein maintain his grip on power.

In 1991, after a U.S.-led coalition drove Iraqi forces from Kuwait, an armed uprising
erupted in the south. The Iraqis deny internationally accepted accounts that the 
revolt was
staged by Shiite Muslims, who constitute a majority in this nation ruled by Sunni 
Muslims.
The official Iraqi version is that Iranians staged the rebellion.

But whoever was responsible, the government acknowledges that it was the tribes,
including the Abu Hamdan, that helped restore order and, with the military, reaffirm
Hussein's control over the country.

The tribes proved themselves a valuable ally during the previous decade as well, when 
they
supplied tens of thousands of their members to help fight Iran in a war that stretched 
on for
eight years and left hundreds of thousands dead on both sides.

The tribes are very influential, said Saad Naji Jawad, a political science professor 
at
Baghdad University.

Although Shwerid's tribe members are spread across the country, he maintains loyalty
through a system of family ties and honor that has been handed down for generations --
and also, he says, with a good deal of cash.

These are hard times for Iraqis, and the government cannot provide all the resources
people need to survive. Each month, Shwerid says, he gives an allowance to 1,000 needy
members of his tribe. He says he also routinely gives cash gifts to young men, so that 
they
can get what they need to marry.

In addition, Shwerid serves as a mediator in disputes, both civil and criminal. 
Although he is
careful not to place himself above national law, his followers often turn to him, 
rather than
the Iraqi courts, to resolve disputes. For example, if one person kills another on 
purpose,
Shwerid will order the aggressor to pay the victim's family $7,000 in blood money.

So deep are the roots of tribal identity that they spread far beyond the reaches of 
small,
agricultural villages like this one and into the heart of Baghdad, the capital.

There is great respect for the tribes, even among those of us who live in the city, 
said
Eehab Rafe, 29, owner of an electronics shop in Baghdad's most upscale neighborhood. He
is a member of the Zobeida tribe, which hails from the northern city of Mosul.

Before Islam came to the Arabian Peninsula, about 1,400 years ago, the main source of
identity for many people was their tribe. Tribes provided a sense of community and 
order in
what could otherwise have been a lawless existence. 

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Auditors Say U.S. Agencies Lose Track of Billions

2002-10-14 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Auditors Say U.S. Agencies Lose Track of Billions

October 14, 2002
By JOEL BRINKLEY






WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 - Year after year, auditors studying
the financial records of federal government departments
find many of them so disorganized, even chaotic, that the
agencies cannot account for tens of billions of dollars.

What is more, when many agencies realize that they have
made major accounting errors, rather than looking back to
see where the money went, they simply enter
multibillion-dollar balance adjustments, writing off the
money.

That is just one of many problems that auditors typically
find in annual financial statements of government agencies.
The 2001-2002 fiscal year ended Sept. 30, so government
agencies are preparing statements now.

In the last year, the Office of Management and Budget has
taken on the financial accounting problem in something like
an auditor's holy war. In a letter to Congress on Oct. 7,
Mitchell E. Daniels Jr., director of the budget office,
said the federal government's accounts would never be
tolerated in the private sector, adding that repair of a
system so badly broken will not happen overnight.

In part to embarrass the agencies so they will improve
their financial performance, the budget office early this
year began rating the 24 largest federal departments,
scoring each green, yellow or red. Green indicates that the
agency's financial systems are acceptable, yellow that they
are troubled but improving and red that there are serious,
chronic problems. In the most recent rating, completed in
June, only one agency was rated green, the tiny National
Science Foundation. Twenty were rated red.

The Department of Defense routinely makes the largest
financial blunders. In the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30,
2000, auditors found, the department entered
unsubstantiated balance adjustments totaling $1.1 trillion.
That was an improvement over the previous year, when the
figure was $2.3 trillion.

They just made the adjustments up, said a senior official
with the Defense Department's inspector general's office.

That does not mean $1.1 trillion is missing. Some
adjustments were deposits, others were debits. For example,
the Defense Finance and Accounting Service found last year
that its accounts were out of balance with the Treasury
Department, the bank, by $3.9 billion. Instead of
determining the source of the discrepancy, the service
simply entered a balance adjustment for that amount.
Hundreds of similar adjustments are behind the $1.1
trillion total.

Over all, the department's financial records are so chaotic
- the agency has more than 1,100 accounting systems - that
Congress advised the agency's auditors not to bother even
trying to audit them.

Three other federal agencies - the Agriculture Department,
NASA and the Agency for International Development - had
unauditable books in 2000-2001. But even many of the
agencies that received so-called clean audits - with books
well organized enough to be audited - had serious financial
shortcomings.

The Internal Revenue Service, for example, is unable to
produce a hard figure for the amount of tax payments due
the government. Instead it runs a statistical sample of
taxes due and from that derives an estimate - an arduous
process that takes several months. That estimate is one of
the figures the government uses to plan spending for the
year.

All told, for the 2000-2001 fiscal year, the Treasury
Department entered a balance deduction from the
government's general fund of $17.3 billion to make up for
financial errors throughout the government. The government
also recorded at least $33 billion in erroneous payments
last year, like improper Medicare payments of $12.1
billion.

We have to pump money into the executive branch to help
them balance these things out, said Representative Steve
Horn, the California Republican who is chairman of the
House Subcommittee on Government Management.

Audits of the departments' financial statements for the
fiscal year 2001-2002 are due early next year.

For most of the nation's history, no one asked much of
government agencies in terms of financial accounting. The
Constitution said only that a regular statement and
account of the receipts and expenditures of all public
money shall be published from time to time.

Early last century Congress passed laws prohibiting
government agencies from spending more than Congress
appropriated. These laws have not been entirely successful.
For example, in the 2000-2001 fiscal year the Forest
Service alone overspent its budget by $1.1 billion.

Starting in the 1990's, Congress began passing more
requirements. One law, in 1994, required each agency for
the first time to produce annual financial statements.
Those reports would be subject to audit, and in 1996, the
first year audited statements were due, only 6 of the 24
agencies produced statements that it was possible to 

Re: [CTRL] Bush warned taiwan of attack..told them to keep it a secret

2002-10-14 Thread Tony Dickinson

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I don't see how this interpretation can be made given the information in
this  article ? The complaint re the lack of warning from the government
to Taiwanese tourists is made, but where does it say anything about
either a US tipoff, or a Friday meeting ?

T.

 According to Taiwan Gov official, they were tipped off on Friday by
 USA.
 Taiwan cabinet met on Friday evening to discuss the matter.
 Taiwan at that time had about 1000 tourists in Bali.
 http://www.ettoday.com/2002/10/14/91-1363095.htm

 If that was the case why didn't USA warn the tourists in Bali about an
 emminent attack?


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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Saddam, the U.S. Agent

2002-10-14 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Saddam, the U.S. Agent

October 15, 2002
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF






KUWAIT - Terrorists once more fired at American troops here
in Kuwait on Monday, although no one was injured this time.
As with last week's attack, in which two Kuwaiti men shot
one American marine to death and wounded another, we don't
know whether the shooting was sponsored by Al Qaeda or was
a purely home-grown affair.

But there's no doubt that even in Kuwait, where Yankees
have the best possible claim on Arab gratitude, a
significant minority of men and women regard us as worms.
Some Kuwaitis are even hailing the terrorists who killed
the American soldier as martyrs.

This gulf of mutual suspicion and anger between Americans
and overseas Muslims seems to have widened dangerously
since 9/11, and it will yawn even more explosively in a war
and occupation of Iraq. This gulf reminds me of my very
first conversation in Arabic, just after I'd moved to Cairo
in 1983 to study the language.

Ismak eh? asked a friendly-looking neighbor in my
building, and I was thrilled that I recognized that he was
asking my name.

Ismi Nick, I said, beaming. He flinched, turned pallid
and stepped back. In a barely audible voice, he croaked out
his question again: Ismak eh?

Unsure what had gone wrong, I stepped forward and
thundered, Ismi Nick.

The man fled. My bewilderment and distress in that moment
seem familiar this year, for once again Americans and
foreign Muslims are unwittingly outraging each other.
Sometimes the difference in our assumptions and world views
yawns so wide that it's difficult even to have a meaningful
conversation.

On Monday evening I attended a lecture at Kuwait University
about the prospective American invasion of Iraq. In the
question-answer session, one earnest young man began: I'm
totally convinced that Saddam Hussein is an agent of the
U.S.

Yup, that's actually a common view in the Arab world. The
idea is that the U.S. asked its pawn Saddam to invade
Kuwait, so that Washington could respond by establishing
military bases in the region and steal Arab oil.

I should add that there are also plenty of grateful
Kuwaitis who see no conspiracies. One woman at the lecture
came up to me to apologize for the shootings at the
marines, saying: We breathe today only because of God and
the U.S. Those marines who were injured were like our
sons.

Unfortunately, there are many others who applaud Osama bin
Laden for having the guts to take on the infidels. The
suspicion and hostility we face in the Islamic world will
be one of our central challenges in the coming years,
particularly after any invasion of Iraq. Look at Pakistan,
our supposed ally in the war on terrorism. The most common
name given to Pakistani boys born after 9/11 in Pakistan's
Northwest Frontier Province reportedly was Osama - that's
right, Osama.

Last week's elections in Pakistan resulted in huge gains
for fundamentalists who are vehemently anti-American. The
fundamentalist parties, which used to be a fringe element
in Pakistani politics, now will control two of the
country's four provinces. If we gain friendly governments
in Afghanistan and Iraq but see the rise of an Islamist
nuclear power in Pakistan, that will have been an appalling
trade.

A poll published this month by Zogby International found
that across eight countries, Arabs have warm feelings about
some Western countries but a wretched view of the U.S.
While Kuwaitis were the most pro-American, even they
regarded the U.S. unfavorably more than favorably, by a 48
percent to 40 percent margin. In most other Arab countries,
fewer than one person in six viewed the U.S. favorably.

Americans often dismiss the significance of the Arab
street, and they have a point: pundits always have it
about to explode, and it rarely does. But the explosion of
the Iranian street in 1979 still haunts the region, and a
similar eruption on the Saudi street or Pakistani street
would be catastrophic for the world. One of the reasons to
be wary of an invasion of Iraq is that the downside risk is
not just in Baghdad, but also around the oil wells of Saudi
Arabia and the nuclear missiles of Pakistan.

Oh, and the meaning of Nick in Arabic? It is a verb
meaning to have sex, but it's even more vulgar than its
English four-letter equivalent. And Nick is the worst
possible conjugation, the command form.

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