[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:52:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong Absolutly correct. That's what I get for passing something on before checking for sure. Please excuse. June and July are not the same. Peace, K -Original Message- From: Ole Gerstrøm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:19:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong Wrong. George W. Bush was born 6. July 1946. So he will be 60 on 6. July 2006, 07/06/06. Yours, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 It means George W was born on June 6th sixty years ago. Is he or isn't he ; In a message dated 3/24/06 1:24:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The link didn't work! I wanted to read the article! So what does this mean? That George Bush is the Anti-Christ? 666 ? I thought the Anti-Christ was going to be Latin as in Spanish, French, Italian, Portugese, etc. So George Bush is a Gemini? Will the Anti-Christ be a Gemini? Just wondering! Gemini does have 6 letters in its name. James Partsch-Galvan www.galvan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought you might find it interesting. Peace, K Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office United state flag YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group cia-drugs on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Latter-day Saints accused, Sex abuse bill
-Caveat Lector- Church sued over reported abuse - Seattle "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been accused in a lawsuit of persuading a 12-year-old boy not to cooperate with authorities after he reported that a Mormon priest sexually abused him. The suit claims the priest, who also was a Boy Scout Scoutmaster, victimized the boy around 1981 to 1983. The suit further claims the boy, who also belonged to the church, told his mother about the abuse, which she reported to church and civil authorities around 1984. But, the suit alleges, church officials pressured the boy not to cooperate, telling him he would not be believed. The boy gave in to the pressure, the suit says, and criminal charges against the man were not filed. He moved to another state and molested other children, according to the suit. He could not be reached for comment. The church in Seattle first learned of the allegations in 2003, when the accuser came forward, said Kim Farah, a church spokeswoman. The church has paid for his counseling and excommunicated the accused man, she said. Farah denied that church leaders pressured the boy to not cooperate." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2002885771zsection_id=2002111777slug=dige24mdate=20060324 Sex abuse bill goes to Owens By April M. Washington, Rocky Mountain News 3/24/06 "A bill that eliminates the statue of limitations for prosecuting felony sex crimes against children some 10 to 20 years ago is on its way to the governor. The Senate gave House Bill 1088 its final stamp approval Friday" http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4568229,00.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Israel Lobby
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Shannon To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Israel Lobby -Caveat Lector- You know shit. You certainly don'tknow anything about the Middle East == That's easy enough to say Bill, but how did you come to that conclusion? - R. = and as for your knowledge of9/11...I'm sure that you learned all you know fromthe neocon press == How do you know that? - R. ...and that tells most of us all we need to know about you and your agenda. Bill = You are a sharp guy Bill. Can't fool you. R. ---Original Message--- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List Date: 03/24/06 14:58:51 To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Israel Lobby -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "flw2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Israel Lobby -Caveat Lector- I happen to be an expert on the subject. I know more truth about 9/11 and the Middle East than everything posted on this list for the last two years. You are out of your league-- little Nazi. R. You can be certain when someone proclaims their expertise, actual knowledge is in inverse proportion to the claim. When they throw out the "N" word - you absolutely know they are extremely mentally challenged. flw Brilliant! I'll say it again. I know more about 9/11 than anything posted to this list in the past 2 yrs. I know more about the Mid East than anything that has been posted to this list in the last 2 yrs. Everything I have written can be checked easily enough. Do some real work and prove me wrong. R. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/">http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Israeli Racism becoming main stream
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: flw2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Israeli Racism becoming main stream -Caveat Lector- Gee, You must be right. The Jews are the intollerant racists here. The Arabs are just poor innocent victems. They bear absolutely no responsibilty for their predicament in the world. Damn Jews. R. No - you must be right. All Arabs bad. All Israeli's good. I never said that. In all large groups, there are bad and good people. The question is not necessarily about individuals but about the groups elites and the behavior of the group. For example; The Germans in the first half of the last century elected the Fascists tolead them. They were supported by a vast majority of Germans as you can see in the old news clips. Does this mean I can't critcize Germans and Germany for starting WW2 just because 5% ( arbitrary ) of the population were decent people? You are an evil racist son of a bitch. Make no mistake about it. To even focus on the relelatively benign predicament of Israeli Arabs, and blow it up to Nazi proportions is in itself a sneaky cowardly kind of viciousness. You are pretenting that you even care about racism and human rights, when all you are interested in is demonizing the Jews. I don't discuss Jews no more then I discuss Christians , Wiccans or Hindus. Israel=Jews, and Jews=Israel. The vast majority of Jews say so. Don't bother pointing out the small percentage of Jews who disagree. They are more or less irrelevant as were the small % of Germans who opposed Hitler, and as are anti-Israel racists in this country. This will not change anytime soon. And furthermore, see what develops if the Arab/Muslims pull off another muderous attack on civillians in this country. If you insist HAARETZ reporter Eli Ashkenazi is a racist - take it up with him. I don't think HE's a racist. I think YOU're a racist. The ultimate aim of his ( and Ha'aretz's) criticism is to make Israel as he sees it, better. He has every right to do so because he is a citizen of that country and a Jew. You are not. And you don't use Ha'aretz for the same purpose. You use that example the same way you use Arab, and racist propaganda for the purpose of doing Israel harm. Interesting that you equate all Jews with Israelis. Why do you think an Israeli newspaper article wants to demonize Jews? flw Ha'aretz used to represent the views of almost 70% of Israelis until that Mother of all Rats, Arafat destroyed any hope for peace between Israel and the Post-Palestinian Arabs. These people were devastated by the realization that the Pal-Arabs only want to kill them off and take back a fully developed functioning country that they were not capable of building. This is what Hammas, an Islamo-fascist terrorist group says they want to do. And the peace-loving Palestinians showed what they are when they voted for Hammas to represent them. This is what the Arabs want and what the supporters of Palestine also secretly desire, but don't have the guts to admit so they couch their racism in the humanitarian jargon of Left. The intended outcome is genocide.This will not happen again. It comes down to an us or them situation ( as it always was,). Do you understand? It comes down to Israel or Palestine. No more room to wiggle. The gloves are off on both sides and Israel will win. That is prefferable to the establishment of an other Islamo-fascist Muslim State. Do you agree? R. If you REALLY were the caring kind of person you pretend to be, the Israeli/Palistinian issue wouldn't even come up. You would rightly focus on what the Arabs are doing to the Kurds, whom they made landless and don't allow to even use their own language. 30 Million of them. The largest, and longest disposesed ( real ) nation on earth. Ten times as many as poor suffering Palestinians who claim that dubious honor to manipulate phony humanitarians like you. You would SHOUT about how the Arabs have wiped out and expelled hundreds of thousands of non-Muslim Blacks in and around Darfur. Instead of posting the drivel you posted above, you would protest the conditions in Saudi Arabia, the heart of Arab culture, where foreign workers are treated like slaves, and where other religions are not permitted to build houses of worship. Where, a convert is beheaded. Where women are not permitted to drive. Where homosexuals are put to death. You are a fucker sir! Don't you dare claim that you are not anti-semitic. You don't even have the guts to be honest about it like the KKK is. You have made it quite obvious what you and others on this list are. R. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?not soap-boxingâ?please! These are sordid matters and
Re: [CTRL] watch it
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Dan Raduinea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:45 AM Subject: watch it Watch it ?? Or what? Are you threatening me? I would kindly like to ask you to review the way you talk to the other users from this forum and list. Your email really irritates me and your language and swering as well. There is a delete key on your key board sir. I suggest you use it rather than try to control my free speech. Please keep it inside your house or for when you gonna have issues with your lovely wife or your jews friends. From a different point of view , you claim to know everything about 9/11, but obviously you missed the theory, already old, that this attack was planned from inside US, that those things never has been planes but missiles, fired from inside US and all this theatre just for a reasons the war against Bin Laden and later on Iraq to start. So i guess you still have got lots to study, read and learn. dan This is completely wrong. But you can think so if you like. R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong
-Caveat Lector- You see Kris, I know because the bastard cheated in the row and got in, in front of me. I was born on 12 July 1946. Yours, Ole Gerstrom - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:52:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong Absolutly correct. That's what I get for passing something on before checking for sure. Please excuse. June and July are not the same. Peace, K -Original Message- From: Ole Gerstrøm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:19:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 - wrong Wrong. George W. Bush was born 6. July 1946. So he will be 60 on 6. July 2006, 07/06/06. Yours, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] George W. Bush is 60 on 6/6/06 It means George W was born on June 6th sixty years ago. Is he or isn't he ; In a message dated 3/24/06 1:24:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The link didn't work! I wanted to read the article! So what does this mean? That George Bush is the Anti-Christ? 666 ? I thought the Anti-Christ was going to be Latin as in Spanish, French, Italian, Portugese, etc. So George Bush is a Gemini? Will the Anti-Christ be a Gemini? Just wondering! Gemini does have 6 letters in its name. James Partsch-Galvan www.galvan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought you might find it interesting. Peace, K Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office United state flag YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group cia-drugs on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?not soap-boxingâ?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâ?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
Re: [CTRL] Israeli Racism becoming main stream
-Caveat Lector- I don't think HE's a racist. I think YOU're a racist. The ultimate aim of his ( and Ha'aretz's) criticism is to make Israel as he sees it, better. He has every right to do so because he is a citizen of that country and a Jew. I am not concerned with Israel - or Palestine - or Italy - or Turkey. I care about the US because I live here. I don't care if one is a Jew, Moslem, Catholic or Rock Worshipper. Your self serving nonsensical argument that only Jews can critize Israel is obscene. You are a Zionist Racialist obsessed with Israel even though you apparently are an American. Unfortunately your racialist obsession with Israel harms my country or at least your perception of what is good for Israel is harmful. Ironically the right wing Fascist Lukidnik views you represent can only bring great harm to Israel - and the United States. flw www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Quote of the Day
-Caveat Lector- Seven of the 10 occupations expected to grow the fastest from 2002 through 2012, according to the Labor Department, pay less than $13.25 an hour, on average: retail salesclerks, customer service representatives, food service workers, cashiers, janitors, nurse's aides and hospital orderlies. NY Times 3/26/06 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Battle for Baghdad 'has already started'
-Caveat Lector- The Independent Online Battle for Baghdad 'has already started' By Patrick Cockburn in Arbil Published: 25 March 2006 The battle between Sunni and Shia Muslims for control of Baghdad has already started, say Iraqi political leaders who predict fierce street fighting will break out as each community takes over districts in which it is strongest. The fighting will only stop when a new balance of power has emerged, Fuad Hussein, the chief of staff of Massoud Barzani, the Kurdish leader, said. Sunni and Shia will each take control of their own area. He said sectarian cleansing had already begun. Many Iraqi leaders now believe that civil war is inevitable but it will be confined, at least at first, to the capital and surrounding provinces where the population is mixed. The real battle will be the battle for Baghdad where the Shia have increasing control, said one senior official who did not want his name published. The army will disintegrate in the first moments of the war because the soldiers are loyal to the Shia, Sunni or Kurdish communities and not to the government. He expected the Americans to stay largely on the sidelines. Throughout the capital, communities, both Sunni and Shia, are on the move, fleeing districts where they are in a minority and feel under threat. Sometimes they fight back. In the mixed but majority Shia al-Amel district, Sunni householders recently received envelopes containing a Kalashnikov bullet and a letter telling them to get out at once. In this case they contacted the insurgents who killed several Shia neighbours suspected of sending the letters. The Sunni will fight for Baghdad, said Mr Hussein. The Baath party already controls al-Dohra and other Sunni groups dominate Ghazaliyah and Abu Ghraib [districts in south and west Baghdad]. The Iraqi army is likely to fall apart once inter-communal fighting begins. According to Peter Galbraith, former US diplomat and expert on Iraq, the Iraqi army last summer contained 60 Shia battalions, 45 Sunni battalions, nine Kurdish battalions and one mixed battalion. The police are even more divided and in Baghdad are largely controlled by the Mehdi Army of the radical nationalist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and the Badr Organisation that has largely been in control of the interior ministry since last May. Sunni Arabs in Baghdad regard the ministry's paramilitary police commanders as Shia death squads. Mr Hussein gave another reason why the army is weak. Where you have 3,000 soldiers there will in fact be only 2,000 men [because of ghost soldiers who do not exist and whose salaries are taken by senior officers], he said. When it comes to fighting only 500 of those men will turn up. Iraqi officials and ministers are increasingly in despair at the failure to put together an effective administration in Baghdad. A senior Arab minister, who asked not to be named, said: The government could end up being only a few buildings in the Green Zone. The mood among Iraqi leaders, both Arabs and Kurds, is far gloomier in private than the public declarations of the US and British governments. The US President George W Bush called this week for a national unity government in Iraq but Iraqi observers do not expect this to be any more effective than the present government of Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari. One said this week: The real problem is that the Shia and Sunni hate each other and not that we haven't been able to form a government. The Shia and Kurds will have the advantage in the coming conflict because they have leaders and organisations. The Sunni are divided and only about 30 per cent of the population of the capital. Nevertheless they should be able to hold on to their stronghold in west Baghdad and the Adhamiyah district east of the Tigris. The Shia do not have the strength and probably do not wish to take over the Sunni towns and villages north and west of Baghdad. Though the Kurds have long sought autonomy close to quasi-independence, their leaders are worried that civil war will increase Iranian and Turkish involvement in Iraq. Mr Hussein said he feared that civil war in Baghdad could spread north to Mosul and Kirkuk where the division is between Kurd and Arab rather than Sunni and Shia. Already Baghdad resembles Beirut at the start of the Lebanese civil war in 1975, when Christians and Muslims fought each other for control of the city. The battle between Sunni and Shia Muslims for control of Baghdad has already started, say Iraqi political leaders who predict fierce street fighting will break out as each community takes over districts in which it is strongest. The fighting will only stop when a new balance of power has emerged, Fuad Hussein, the chief of staff of Massoud Barzani, the Kurdish leader, said. Sunni and Shia will each take control of their own area. He said sectarian cleansing had already begun. Many Iraqi leaders now believe that civil war is
