Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT

2001-04-01 Thread Calvin Burgin

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John, I just got three copies of this from you.  I am forwarding
them back to you so that you can see the time and see that you
are sending multiples copies.  I doubt that you are doing this on
purpose, I suspect you have a wrong setting somewhere and I am
just letting you know.

Hang in.  Calvin

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 

Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT

2001-04-01 Thread Calvin Burgin

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John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
 Arvin Industries.
 Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
 International (SII), a commercial space- flight
 venture based in Texas.
 During the Reagan-Bush era, SII 

Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT

2001-04-01 Thread Calvin Burgin

-Caveat Lector-

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
 Arvin Industries.
 Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
 International (SII), a commercial space- flight
 venture based in Texas.
 During the Reagan-Bush era, SII 

Re: [CTRL] It Hurts to Sit on Your Chip

2001-04-01 Thread Calvin Burgin

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Correction, I got FOUR copies of the same thing from you.

Cheers.  CB

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge."

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive
 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years 

Re: [CTRL] Battle of Harvest Moon True Story of Space Shuttles

2001-03-25 Thread Calvin Burgin
y resisted the hoax.  The rest of the
astronauts got the message and went along with the program.

You stated "neither interviewed anyone with first hand
knowledge."  Well, talking about real first hand knowledge can
get you suicided.  I was first hand and I saw some of what was
happening and I just point out to others some of what is going
on.  In fact, I know more than I tell but no one would even
understand it if I told it much less believe it.  So it is no
different from if I knew nothing -- just do your own homework and
I can help you know where to look if you wish.

"Contact was financed primarily through money provided by a
wealthy eccentric from Austin, TX."  Once again, no.  Dave
Overton the "wealthy eccentric"  was my friend and customer, he
bought the gold from me.  When he died, the newspaper interviewed
me and then printed a fantasy story that had little to do with
the truth.  They did not use ANYTHING that I told them, as far as
I rememember and could tell.  Dave tried to give the gold to
Contact, but George Green stole it.  It was not used in any way
to finance Contact, they never got it.  Just recently the gold
was disposed but it still did not go to Contact.

When Contact Newspaper printed my letters to the man in solitary
confinement which became the Fire From the Sky document, even
they got some things wrong.  One thing that comes to mind, I
wrote that the National Reconnaissance Office developed the KH-11
satellite and I said it had a Byeman name Kennan.  The
proofreaders changed that to "by a man named Kennan."  No, it was
right exactly as I wrote it, the Byeman names were a method of
code nameing.  One of the projects that I worked on at Control
Data was the KH-11.  They also had SI (Special Intelligence) and
TK (Talent-Keyhole) codenames, but that is ancient history now.
The U2 was Byeman code named Idealist and the SR71 (I did the
billing for the SR71 program) was Oxcart.

Tony Craddock, researcher and web master for CSETI told me that
he has contacts in the NSA, Pentagon, CIA etc. and they all
confirmed that everything in the Fire From The Sky document was
true.  Even the cloning of humans which began in the 1970s.  You
might contact him and see what he is willing to tell, and while
you are at it, consider supporting CSETI, they have given
presentations to the United Nations, the Pentagon, all the Chiefs
of Staff of the military, etc., trying to break the secrecy seal
on the UFO subject.  Once the seal is broken, you people are
going to be shocked, I can assure you.

He is at http://www.cseti.org and he has posted Fire From the Sky
at
http://www.cseti.org/position/addition/fire%20from%20the%20sky.htm

Best to you and all.

Calvin Burgin AKA "One Who Knows" (how would you like to be stuck
with that name? grin)

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[CTRL] Texas FBI Agent Killed In Plane Crash

1999-09-06 Thread Calvin Burgin

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The Wall Street Journal, 3 Sep 1999, page A12, article Late Discovery of
New Waco Evidence Leads to Debate on FBI  Director's Handling of Matter,
has a paragraph which says:  "Yesterday, at a time when his agency was
under fire and facing another outside inquiry into Waco, Mr. Freeh took
time out to attend the funeral of a Texas agent killed in a plane
crash."

Anybody know any more about this?  Who, What, Where, When, Etc.?

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