Re: [CTRL] Clinton pushes national gun ID card
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- A very scary proposal, friends of CTRL. Let's hope Congess has nough sense to leave this potential hotbed made up, and to not sleep in it. -Original Message- From: Bill Richer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Clinton pushes national gun ID card -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Clinton pushes national gun ID card Announcement takes 2nd Amendment groups by surprise -- -- By David M. Bresnahan ? 2000 WorldNetDaily.com President Bill Clinton shocked gun owners throughout the nation last night when he proposed that all citizens be licensed by the government before they can purchase a handgun. "Every state in this country already requires hunters and automobile drivers to have a license. I think they ought to do the same thing for handgun purchases," Clinton said. "I hope you'll help me pass that in this Congress." The proposal, part of the president's State of the Union agenda, would add to the required Brady background check now in force the requirement that adults wishing to purchase a firearm first take a special training course, and then be issued a gun license before they could purchase a firearm. The photo I.D. would be issued by states under the federally mandated program, according to a White House source. In the event a state does not agree to participate in the program, a federal gun license would be made available in that state. President Clinton last night, asking Congress to approve national photo IDs for purchasing guns. Federally licensed gun dealers would be required by the proposed law to check for the gun license before selling handguns. Asked if the proposed gun license would later expand to all types of firearms, the White House source said it was a "natural progression." The proposal came as a total surprise to officials of the National Rifle Association and the Gun Owners of America. In his speech, the President spoke of the death of Daniel Mauser, 15, in the Columbine High School shooting last year. His father, Tom Mauser, was sitting on the Democrat side of the aisle when he was introduced. ``Crime in America has dropped for the past seven years, the longest decline on record, thanks to a national consensus we helped forge on community police, sensible gun control, and effective prevention,'' Clinton said. ``But nobody believes America is safe enough. So let's set a higher goal: Let's make America the safest big country in the world." Regarding Clinton's use of Mauser in the audience, Gun Owners of America Executive Director Larry Pratt told WorldNetDaily, "It's become a dog and pony show." Pratt said he received an emotional call from Mauser after he recently appeared on a television show. He accused Mauser of expressing hatred for guns and gun owners, and of being unwilling to listen to facts. "If the Republicans show some moxie for a change, the Democrats will have hung themselves," said Pratt, who spoke with WorldNetDaily while watching the speech from his home. "This is the kind of thing that lost them control of the Congress in 1994," said Pratt. "To volunteer to bring it up in a campaign year, Clinton must be very sure of himself that 'reasonable gun safety' is a way that he can talk about gun control [while] preparing for confiscation. That's what this is, by the way, the preparation for confiscation, which we've seen in New York already. We've seen it in California," said Pratt. Clinton recently initiated a campaign that promotes fighting crime as well as gun safety issues. The National Rifle Association, in a recent statement about the campaign, said the organization remains skeptical regarding Clinton's real desire to fight crime. NRA Institute for Legislative Action executive director James Jay Baker commented, "I'm glad that the president has finally agreed with the NRA that enforcing federal firearms laws makes sense. We've been pushing for more enforcement of existing laws, and it's unfortunate that it took him until the seventh year of his term to finally take that seriously." However, Baker cautioned, "The president has proved adept at changing his position. When we see the detailed budget, we'll know if he has truly changed." The statement added an expectation that Clinton would not "temper his anti-gun zeal." An NRA spokesman, Brian Judy, was caught by surprise when WorldNetDaily informed him of the gun-licensing plan shortly before the State of the Union address began, and could not offer an official comment. After the speech, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said, "What's it going to solve? The criminals could care less. They're not going to stand in line; they won't comply with it." Vice
Re: [CTRL] WHALE DOLPHIN ALERT!
-Caveat Lector- Fuck the whales This is a true saying, and worthy of all men to be received, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. I Timothy 1:15 Thomas A. Butler 915-947-8488 (H) 915-481-5135 (PGR) -Original Message- From: Rory Winter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] WHALE DOLPHIN ALERT! Cetacean Society International Action Alerts and Updates on Current Issues Respond To The Low Frequency Active Sonar Draft Environmental Impact Statement Public Comment Period Closing 28 October 1999 Please use your one opportunity to comment on the U.S. Navy's Low Frequency Active Sonar Draft Environmental Impact Statement before the public comment period closes 28 October. CSI has participated directly since 1996, tried to be objective and open minded, and we have given the Navy the benefit of the doubt again and again. We have spent a great deal of effort trying to understand and communicate this very confusing and complex issue. Frankly, it scares us. It should scare you too. The LFA is a complex system designed to locate the super-quiet submarines that older sonars can't find. Many military professionals consider the system to be of little practical use. To start with, it's very vulnerable. While announcing itself to anything within hundreds of miles it can only work at 3 knots, and it can't turn easily while transmitting. Below are several points that we think illustrate the flaws in the LFA DEIS. You might consider including some of them in your own comment, in you own words. Below those points is the technical, supporting background. For more details, and the history of the controversy, please review "Whales Alive!" newsletters archived on this website starting in October, 1996. Please send your comments to: Mr. J. S. Johnson Attn: SURTASS LFA Sonar OEIS/EIS Program Manager 901 North Stuart Street, Suite 708 Arlington, VA 22203 Fax: 703-465-8420. (Emails are not acceptable) a.. Because the LFA has the potential to do harm to the marine environment, because it is so loud that it can kill, all operations should be based on conservative levels of sound. Instead, but with considerable lip service to being conservative, the DEIS downplays the risks and asserts that the LFA is safe to operate. This DEIS assertion rests on insufficient evidence and supports itself with self-generated figures and graphs. Demand that scientists not associated with the LFA review the assertions before they are considered valid. b.. A received level of 180 dB is far too loud to be considered the beginning of a precautionary zone around the LFA. Most experts consider that level damaging, and urge caution with sounds far quieter. Demand to know the facts and experts' opinions the Navy implies support a level of 180 dB as the start of mitigations. c.. There is no "ramping up" of the LFA sounds to allow close animals to move away. This procedure is demanded for many other loud sources to operate. d.. Cumulative noises multiply the negative impacts of single sounds. The Navy asserts that they need not extend the mitigation zone to account for the cumulative effect. By their own figures, 100 LFA transmissions shift the mitigation point from 180 dB to 170 dB, which could be several miles from the source depending on conditions. e.. For their mitigations of the LFA's dangers the Navy relies on detecting vulnerable marine life within 1 kilometer. They assert that they can detect sea turtles and dolphins 1 kilometer away from the LFA even at night and in any weather. They rely largely on a fish-finding sonar that has not been tested, and assert that it won't affect bow riding dolphins. f.. All deep-diving toothed whales are ignored. There was no directed research, but there is considerable scientific evidence that toothed whales may be very vulnerable to LFA sounds. The sperm whale is ignored because there are enough of them that harming some won't affect the population. g.. All effects of the LFA on the behavior of marine animals are ignored. Communication, reproduction, and feeding and avoiding predators are not "biologically significant" unless whole populations are at risk. h.. The Precautionary Principle is a basic scientific rule that, in the face of ignorance about our effects, we must move carefully and cautiously. The DEIS ignores this Principle, in spite of warnings by most scientists that human don't know enough about the effects of our noises in the oceans. The LFA DEIS discusses the need to be cautious and conservative but all actions are based on unrealistic and aggressive assumptions about the LFA's effects below 180 dB. In practice everything outside of 1 kilometer is simply ignored. i.. The Scientific Research Program (SRP) assumed to support the LFA DEIS is inadequate and asserts unsubstantiated conclusions.
