Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) More on Hillary for prez
-Caveat Lector- In light of Bill being the puppet president for the controlling elite- this posting deserves the chuckle of the day award!!! thanks for making me smile!! this is cute! Hilary the puppet of the puppet. No I think when Bill is out of there, they are kind of done with him. He is out to pasture... He is like the tissue president that he is. He is expendable. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Szocik Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) More on Hillary for prez -Caveat Lector- God help this country if by some miraculous chain of events Hillary was elected President. she would be a "puppet" for the office while Bill continued on with running the country from behind the scenes. Who the hell do they think they are fooling?! Pay attention America; please do not let this become a reality!! JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Give back the church bells
-Caveat Lector- Bob- I was considering dropping out of this listserve. But this one posting makes it worth staying on!! It makes the 18,000 messages worth it!! This is one damm good piece of information!! This posting deserves a sign saying READ ME!! It is shocking and sickening, but no surprise any more. The United States has been stolen right out from under our noses. We each passing generation, it goes further and further under. When will we see what is happening?! Crimes never go unnoticed, do they? The fact that they took the bells, ha! The sword is now turned inward, they set in motion their downfall. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Stokes Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Give back the church bells -Caveat Lector- www.WorldNetDaily.com FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 03 1999 Give back the church bells Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. As long as we're on the subject, let's talk about another U.S. government attack on a church. One hundred years ago, during its war on Spain, the U.S. invaded the Philippines, sprayed bullets far and wide, and put the entire country under martial law. The result was costly for the U.S. -- it created a habit of imperialist aggression that is still with us today. And it was also costly for the Philippines: an entire generation suffered from the violence associated with a brutal occupation, or the resulting disease and political turmoil. Now to the church. In Balangiga, the U.S. Army made slaves of the residents and turned the place into a work camp. With indefatigable spirit, the local residents decided not to take it anymore. Church bells of the local Catholic parish began to ring, signaling a revolt, and 45 U.S. soldiers died. In response, the American commander gave orders to murder "everyone in sight," which they promptly did. The result: as many as 50,000 dead Filipinos, among whom were women and children. A bit on the disproportionate side perhaps? Indeed, but like the FBI at Waco, the U.S. military in the Philippines had only one end in mind: total victory. Adding insult to massacre, the U.S. Army then stole the church bells and took them to Warren Air Force base in Cheyenne, Wyo., where they hang today. But now the parish in the Philippines wants them back, as a symbol that all this is just ancient history. They even rebuilt the belfry at the parish in anticipation of the bells' return. But as we've seen in the Waco case, the U.S. government is notoriously unwilling to admit error, particularly bloody, egregious error. Hence, so far, the bells are not forthcoming, despite the attempt on the part of many groups to intervene and put an end to the parading of religious objects as war loot. No, instead Congress has passed a resolution forbidding the return of war booty without its authorization. In case you think the Filipinos are making an unjust demand, consider the context. There was no justification for either the U.S. presence in the Philippines or the violence with which the U.S. carried it out. At stake was little more than a militarized trade dispute between Spain and the U.S., while Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines were caught in the crossfire. An American officer testified in a letter to the Philadelphia Ledger on Nov. 11, 1901: "Our men have been relentless, have killed to exterminate men, women, and children, prisoners and captives, active insurgents and suspected people, from lads of ten up, an idea prevailing that the Filipino was little better than a dog." And this gentlemen was writing in defense of the war! Or consider this letter written before the invasion by another officer: "There is no use in mincing words We exterminated the American Indians, and I guess most of us are proud of it, or, at least believe that the end justified the means; and we must have no scruples about exterminating this other race standing in the way of progress and enlightenment, if it is necessary." Neither was this merely the attitude of a few recalcitrant soldiers. Using religion as his cover, President William McKinley later justified his behavior in similar terms. As he told a delegation of Methodist clergymen: "I went down on my knees and prayed to Almighty God for light and guidance ... and one night late it came to me this way We could not leave (the Philippines) to themselves -- they were unfit for self-government -- and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain's was. ... There was nothing left for us to do but take them all and educate the Filipinos, and uplift and Christianize them." Recall that the Philippines was largely Catholic, which the Protestant ruling elite in this country did not consider to be a Christian religion. And what better way to treat these supposed non-Christians than to starve and kill them? In a similar way, the Branch Davidians were considered to be a dangerous and
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4
-Caveat Lector- crop circles? the aliens are decidely jewish- they have done a menorrah- check out July 1999 of the Jerusalem Post. (not sure if it is a weekly thing or monthly, but it is there last I checked.) it is sooo mysterious, do you think the chosen in outerspace too??! -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tenorlove Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4 -Caveat Lector- Hmph! That's nuthin! You shoulda seen the crop circle I had in my back yard a couple a years ago. We emptied out and picked up my daughter's wading pool, and underneath was the smoothest, most perfect, swirled circle I ever saw! Geometric perfection. ROTFPIMP!! Ours was shaped like the underbelly of a dinosaur! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] !@ Johnson Johnson - Brainwashing our Youth . . .?
-Caveat Lector- what is this in reference to?! please cite source, would like to hear what this is about. thanks -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AOL User Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] !@ Johnson Johnson - Brainwashing our Youth . . .? -Caveat Lector- Acclimation to satanic symbols. Like acclimation to satanic verses in heavy metal type music. The occult has been sweeping our society since the 60's and has not stopped. It's not likely to. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd(2): Y2K: more nuclear news -- don't worry be happy
-Caveat Lector- HAHA! Yes, the POPE IS JEWISH!! SEE STARS BELOW to referrence point.) Paul VI WORE THE LITTLE SQUARE BOX WITH NINE FACETS ON EACH SIDE- THE JEWISH EPHAT (sp?) Sort of an unspoken sign to his hanlders to say, I am one with you. Vatican II is heresy and the church that has sprung from it is bearing evil fruit. Watch what they do, not what they say. -Caveat Lector- Gary North's Y2K Links and Forums Summary and Comments (feel free to mail this page) Category: Power_Grid Date: 1999-06-29 06:44:51 Subject: Good News from Nuclear Industry's PR Departments Link: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=v/nm/19990628/tc/utilit ies_nuclear_2.html Comment: This report is PR-based. It says that everything will be just fine next week when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission issues its y2k report, excepyt for 10% of the plants, which have not been identified. *Will the NRC shut them down? Is the Pope Jewish? They knew that the plants are compliant, and will therefore pass the trests next September when the plants can go off-line for testing without raising rates, i.e., without cutting into company profits. This is compliance based on faith. It's true: these plants need power to shut down safely. So, they have bought diesel generators. But they need five months of power to shut down safely: to cool the water. Spent fuel storage When removed from a reactor, a fuel bundle will be emitting both radiation, primarily from the fission fragments, and heat. Spent fuel is unloaded into a storage facility immediately adjacent to the reactor to allow the radiation levels and the quantity of heat being released to decrease. These facilities are large pools of water; the water acts as both a shield against the radiation and an absorber of the heat released. Spent fuel is generally held in such pools for a minimum of about five months. No problem. They'll just buy it from the grid. It's all planned for. Stop worrying. This is a Reuters story on YAHOO! (June 27). * * * * * * * * * * * The nuclear power industry, aiming to allay public fears of power outages and radiation leaks, has stepped up efforts to make sure plants are not vulnerable to the year 2000 computer bug. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) will release next week a report on exactly how ready each of the nation's 103 nuclear power reactors are for the millennium date change. Nuclear reactors account for about 20 percent of all U.S. power generation. . . . ''All of our plant shutdown systems are analog,'' said Robert Haverkamp, manager of the Y2K project at Southern California Edison Co.'s (AMEX:SCEq - news) San Onofre nuclear power plant in San Clemente, Calif. Nevertheless, Edison has, over the past 18 months, meticulously tracked down and remedied all plant systems determined to be vulnerable to the date change, he said. `''will be reporting full readiness to the NRC on June 30,'' Haverkamp said. But operations-related systems at about 10 of the 103 reactors are not expected to get a clean bill of health until later this year, Beedle said. The trade group did not identify which plants are not yet up to snuff, but emphasized that all are set to undergo maintenance work after power demand has peaked for the summer. . . . Like most nuclear reactors, the two operating units at San Onofre are connected to the regional electricity grid, which brings in the necessary power for cooling the plant and preventing any threat of meltdown. As part of everyday operations, critical systems at nuclear plants are designed with ''fail safe'' conditions, which automatically shut the plant down if they are not met. ''Even if our worst fears come true and the grid goes down at midnight on December 31 and we have a station blackout, the reactor shuts down safely and we can restart after the clock changes,'' Beedle said. The North American Electric Reliability Council (NERC), which oversees delivery of electricity in the United States and Canada, said in March the industry had completed more than 75 percent of the required testing and remediation of its systems and nearly all were expected to be up to speed by June 30. Fewer than 3 percent of all components failed Y2K testing, with most errors occurring in systems, such as schedule logs, that would not cause the lights to go out, NERC said. As a back up, the NRC requires every nuclear reactor to have on site at least two diesel-powered generators to provide emergency power in case of a failure in the grid connection. If, for some random reason, those units were also to fail, nuclear operators have established backup contingencies. Edison, for example, has determined two transmission paths, one from San Diego and one from Hoover Dam in Arizona, that could quickly supply the plant with emergency power. Officials said special attention has been paid to making sure that bureaucratic conditions for plant operations will be met at the time
Re: [CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000.
-Caveat Lector- As far as 'voting' goes, this is another cute idea who's time has come and gone- it used to work, but now it works against us. It's a kind of mantra with which we like to convince ourselves: "If only we vote for our guy!" "If only I campaign for my guy/gal..." "If only I give more $..." "If only we reform the voting laws..." It goes on and on and sadly it doesn't ever quite add up. Some of us are realizing that this system of voting isn't working, but we don't know why. We have no idea that by 'voting' we help to keep the facade of 'democracy' going, and playing into their hands! For the REAL info on voting- go to www.networkamerica.org. A few minutes of reading will 'blow your mind!' Voting will never be the same, and things will fall into place. It is the one piece of puzzle for which you've been searching for a lonnnggg time!! It's a link connecting past and present. You'll see -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nurev Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000. -Caveat Lector- = == ELECTION 2000 NO MANDATE ! == DON'T VOTE ! IT JUST ENCOURAGES THEM. The accumulation of wealth brings with it an accumulation of power and influence disproportional to the actual numbers of wealthy groups, and individuals existing in a society. 1) I believe there is a way to break the hold of big money on the Presidency, and other major political positions at the national governmental level. This can be achieved by modifying our views on how to utilize the electoral process to recapture and strengthen the limited democracy we had. Whatever power voters had was stolen from the American people by U.S. and foreign moneyed interests. 2) Nullifying political bribery by the Duopoly can be accomplished in a non-violent manner, and DOES NOT REQUIRE ACTIVE COOPERATION AMONG GROUPS WITH DIFFERING IDEOLOGIES. Please consider the following: The diversity and size of the U.S. plays right into the hands of the ruling class and their institutions. It's easy to keep a society like this divided along natural fault lines. Class, race, religion, gender, sexual preference, occupation, philosophical outlook, regionalism, and multiculturalism, are some reasons that truly mass movements are almost impossible to organize in this country. The obvious exceptions are war, and disaster. Though there are more people getting involved in grass roots politics, they are organizing around narrow interests. I'm not belittling those interests. I'm simply saying that the mass power of the public is not being focused on the weak points in the system. Those are, the ability to effect change through voting ( or not voting ), spending ( or not spending ), and paying taxes ( or withholding your taxes ). The problem with voting, is that those who have stolen the democratic process, present us with the option of picking any one of THEIR candidates that we like. The process of running for any national office, is actually a filtering process that "BOTH" parties use to insure that only those acceptable to the ruling class will be presented to us for rubber stamping. Thus, they have taken the choice out of our choosing process. Most people now realize that something is very wrong here, and are quite angry about it. This is not democracy. ["Don't cling to a political party that has been converted to neo-conservatism. [[ Like Clinton/Gore's " New Dems," or " New Labor " in Britain, or " Third Way " Socialists. - J2 ]] Once the party has been taken over, maintaining solidarity on the outside while seeking change from within merely gives them more time. When the spirit of the party is dead, shed the old skin and create something new". - TIPS ON HOW TO OPPOSE CORPORATE RULE - from the book " Economic Fundamentalism " by Dr Jane Kelsey, U of Auckland, NZ ] Because he was elected with only 43% of the vote (1992- in a three way race ), Clinton was perceived as being politically weak, and forced to compromise more than he really wanted to. Of course that didn't extend to pro business issues like NAFTA and GATT and Fast Track. Reagan, on the other hand was perceived as having won by a "landslide", and had a strong mandate to do anything he wished, while the press cowered before the will of the people. Consequently, he became the " teflon " president. ( Referring of course, to the substance between his ears.) The point is, the importance of the perception of popular support. Imagine a President elected by only 35% or less. How difficult might it be for such an unpopular elected official to raise taxes, cut social programs, get us into an oil war, or turn our national forces over to the institutions of World Federalism like NATO and the U.N., when so few would have
