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'The law that never was'
Geoff Metcalf's interview answers
question, 'Is 16th Amendment legal?'
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By Geoff Metcalf
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com
A criminal investigator for the Illinois Department of Revenue for
approximately 10 years, William J. Benson of South Holland, Illinois has been
at the vanguard of debate and controversy surround the 16th Amendment for
almost two decades. In 1984 he embarked upon a year-long project to examine
the process of the ratification of the 16th Amendment and to determine
whether or not it had been lawfully adopted as part of the U.S. Constitution.
The culmination of Benson's work is the book, "The Law That Never Was."
Bill Benson, author of "The Law That Never Was"
Question: You have been engaged in this 16th amendment battle for almost 20
years. How did it start?
Answer: I was a former investigator for the Illinois Department of Revenue. I
discovered a great deal of corruption within that department and for that the
Director fired me. I told him if he fired me, I would sue him for violation
of First Amendment rights. Six and half years later we were in court. We had
a jury of six; it was a civil trial. They awarded me $353,000 for violation
of First Amendment rights.
I began working with my attorney, Andy Spiegal. We had a willful failure to
file case in Indiana. Red Beckman had some documentation that showed there
was some serious problem with the 16th Amendment. He got the documentation
from a man named Dean Hurst, from Cheyenne, Wyoming. I purchased that
documentation and made every attempt to have Andy get it before the court,
and the Judge said no.
The judge gave us three real good reasons why he did that: The documentation
is not notarized, it is not certified, and you do not have a witness to
testify to.
That evening I said, "Okay, the judge has given us our marching orders. The
only thing we have to do is go to all 48 states and get the documentation" to
see if the documents have any validity. The attorney said, "Bill, you're
crazy, you can't do that." I said, "Sure you can."
Q: How long did it take to do that?
A: It took a full year. There is not one state -- not one -- that has
ratified the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution. One of the
most amazing documents I found was in the national archives in Washington
D.C. -- a 16-page memorandum written by Ruben J. Clark, then the attorney for
Secretary of State Philander Chase Knox, on February 15, 1913. What he says
is that in the certified copies of the amendment passed by the legislatures
of the several states ratifying the 16th Amendment, it appears that only four
of those resolutions -- Arizona, North Dakota, Tennessee and New Mexico --
have quoted absolutely accurately and correctly what was proposed by
Congress. The other 33 resolutions contain either errors of capitalization,
spelling or wording. ...
Q: So what's the big deal? Why are errors of capitalization, spelling or
wording so significant?
A: On page 15 of the 16-page memorandum, the attorney says, "further under
the Constitution, a Legislature is prohibited from altering 'in any way' the
resolution proposed by Congress." The right of the Legislature is merely to
approve or disapprove the amendment. The last page is also interesting
because it says the department has not received the copy of the resolution
passed by the state of Minnesota, but the secretary of the governor of the
state has officially notified the department that legislators of that state
have ratified the proposed 16th amendment.
Q: Here's the obvious question that comes up all the time. Say it was a
bureaucratic oversight, a procedural glitch or something. Why are we still
saddled with this thing? The reality check is, if you don't comply you end up
in a whole world of hurt, as you know from personal experience.
A: Oh, there isn't any question about it. And that is why I continue to defy
the federal government. That is why, when we were in Washington (at the
National Press Club) I said, "I have waited 15 years to get behind these
microphones, and I challenge the United States, I challenge the Justice
Department, to come and get me. Take me, and leave these people alone." Let's
get the 16th Amendment argument on the table once and for all before a jury
and let them decide.
Q: Why don't they just drag you into court and resolve the controversy once
and for all?
A: I wish they would. This has been going on now for 18 years. They cannot
win with the 16th Amendment argument.
Q: Bill, at this event you guys had in Washington D.C. at the National Press
Club in July, it seemed like a collection of former Geoff Metcalf guests,
including Joe Bannister.
Joe Bannister is a former IRS agent -- a badge-carrying, gun-carrying agent
who after listening to my radio