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From: "wilford bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [smashthestate] Fwd: TV Doc. Examines NSA Role
Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:17 AM


From: "Bond"
Subject: [ParanoidTimes] TV Doc. Examines NSA Role

The History Channel is running a one hour documentary on the NSA
Monday night, Jan 8, at 8pm EST.  It repeats at midnight and again at 4am Tuesday.


Documentary Examines NSA Role

Saturday January 6, 2001   5:30 pm



WASHINGTON (AP) - The National Security Agency, the supersecret intelligence mission 
most Americans do not even know exists, gives some explanation in a television 
documentary for its tightlipped behavior.

``It's really important that the American people understand what we do, that we are in 
fact a relatively powerful organization. And it's absolutely critical that they don't 
fear the power that we have,'' the agency's director, Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, says 
in a rare interview.

The History Channel program, airing Monday as part of the network's ``History's 
Mysteries'' series, seeks to explain the agency's mission and examines recent 
controversies.

Considered the eavesdropping branch of the intelligence community, the NSA gathers 
information through satellites, telephone intercepts and other methods. Not much else 
is known about the NSA, which employees joke stands for ``No Such Agency''

Hayden offers little more.

``We intercept communications of adversaries of the United States and attempt to turn 
that into wisdom for American policy-makers and commanders,'' he said, according to a 
transcript of the show. ``By the same token, we attempt to prevent other nations from 
doing that to the United States of America. That's what we do.''

Congress recently resolved a budget battle over funds for the NSA when President 
Clinton signed legislation authorizing money for intelligence agencies, including the 
NSA and CIA. He had vetoed the original spending bill because of a provision that 
would have made the leaking of government secrets a felony offense. The exact budget 
figure included in the bill is classified.

``If you were comparing NSA to a corporation in terms of dollars spent, floor space 
occupied and personnel employed, it would rank in the top 10 percent of the Fortune 
500 companies,'' said Judith Emmel, a spokeswoman for the agency, which has its 
headquarters in Fort Meade, Md.

Last year, the NSA defended itself against allegations it illegally snooped into 
e-mail messages and other communications between ordinary Americans. On the cable 
program, Hayden denied such action.

``I'm here to tell you that we don't get close to the Fourth Amendment,'' he said, 
referring to the constitutional provision prohibiting unreasonable search and seizure. 
``We, for better or worse, stay comfortably away from that line.''

The program recounts the agency's history and the codes it has deciphered from 
Japanese, German, Vietnamese and other foreign governments during past conflicts.

``The ability to do communications intelligence has saved lives. It has kept us out of 
war. It has shortened war when we've been in it,'' said David Hatch, NSA senior 
historian.

The NSA had to revise its mission after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union. The 
agency soon shifted its focus to terrorists, drug traffickers and the threat of war 
over the Internet.

``Cyberwar is a term that you hear today a lot. And the business we're in is to 
counter the effectiveness of cyberwarfare against our infrastructures,'' said Michael 
Jacobs, deputy director of information assurance.

``We acquire information, we determine its value and we pass it on,'' said Maureen 
Baginski, who heads NSA's Office of the Director.

``Really, what you have here is a bunch of Americans that are safeguarding Americans.''

^---  On the Net:

National Security Agency: http://www.nsa.gov

History Channel: http://www.historychannel.com/







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Re: [CTRL] [smashthestate] Fwd: TV Doc. Examines NSA Role

2001-01-11 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/11/01 10:15:19 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ``We intercept communications of adversaries of the United States and
attempt
 to turn that into wisdom for American policy-makers and commanders,'' he
said,
  according to a transcript of the show. ``By the same token, we attempt to
 prevent other nations from doing that to the United States of America.
That's
 what we do.''
and
  Last year, the NSA defended itself against allegations it illegally
snooped
 into e-mail messages and other communications between ordinary Americans.
On
 the cable program, Hayden denied such action.

  ``I'm here to tell you that we don't get close to the Fourth Amendment,''
he
 said, referring to the constitutional provision prohibiting unreasonable
 search and seizure. ``We, for better or worse, stay comfortably away from
 that line.''


  Well if the 'adversaries' are in communication with American citizens, what
then?

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] [smashthestate] Fwd: TV Doc. Examines NSA Role

2001-01-11 Thread Mark McHugh

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Samantha L wrote:

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 In a message dated 1/11/01 10:15:19 AM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ``We intercept communications of adversaries of the United States
  and attempt to turn that into wisdom for American policy-makers
  and commanders,''


   Well if the 'adversaries' are in communication with American citizens, what
 then?

Anything going out of the US or incoming from outside of the US is
fair game for overseas interceptors, like those at Menwith Hill in the
UK.  The NSA is not supposed to intercept internal comms.  The
loophole is that there is an intel-sharing agreement with UK-USA and
also ANZAC, if I recall correctly.  The NSA can receive intercepts of
US comms from our foreign partners.  At least this is how it was back
in the 80s, when I knew for sure.

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