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2000-10-22 Thread Kris Millegan
nsportation and communications--counterpart on the continent to the
Rothschilds. Was it in 1848 or thereabouts that all the royal families of
Europe lost their thrones?  Possibly the purpose of the Illuminati was to
institute a plan whereby they could wield control of the world without
having to be recognized as being in charge--to operate through agents in the
form of bankers and investors.  These agents are then controlled by
techniques developed by scientists using drugs and psychological
manipulation.  Note from the above site that the Duke of Braganca's son
(Prince of Beira, Infante of Portugal), was born at Berne, Switzerland, on
May 15, 1945--at a time when Allen Dulles was stationed there.

It's looking more and more like this group is behind the octopus.  We can
trace them at the root of:

1.Empire Trust, which created United Fruit
2.Legends about underground bases in South America
3.Marriages to many of the American heiresses of 19th century.  Could
these marriages have been designed to give legal title to the railroads and
industries controlled by the fathers of the heiresses?  Where did the
original money to create the businesses come from?

Linda







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From: Ole Gerstrøm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:00 AM
Subject: [CTRL] 500 GERMAN COLONISTS FIND UNDERGOUND TUNNEL IN 1572



- Original Message -
From: Mike Clark
To: 'Ole Gerstrøm'


This is from Val Valerian's Matrix Master Composite Chronology.

In 1572 a group of 500 German colonists originating mainly from

the DUKEDOM OF SAXE-COBURG  ( REMEMBER I HAVE TOLD

YOU THAT THAT THE CURRENT RULING FAMILY OF ENGLAND

ARE NOT WINDSORS BUT GERMAN ILLUMINATI SAXE-COBURG-

GOTHA,  ALSO CONFIRMED IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOK).  Back to

my point.  500 German Colonists from the DUKEDOM OF SAXE-COBURG

were hired by SEBASTIAN the FIRST KING OF PORTUGAL to man

a garrison on the Amazon River.  The group had problems with

the local indians and stumbled upon a cave entrance to a vast

underground cavern.  Headed by a German named Von Luckner

the underground colony built cities in the caverns.  According to

Valerian two of these cities exist today.  One is known as

Von Luckner and the other Wagner.  Underground they found others

with linguistic similarities to German.  Supposedly these other

UNDERGROUNDERS came to Earth 30,000 years ago in response

to a REPTILIAN INVASION OF EARTH.  Again according to

Valerian that surface living Germans of today evolved from a secret

tunnel opening in the BLACK FOREST AREA OF BAVARIA.

Remember what Icke said in his book.  That it is possible that

the ARYANS arrived from the PLANET MARS trying to flee

from THE DRAGON RACE.

THEN ACCORDING TO VALERIAN IN 1853.  GERMAN ILLUMINATI

LIVING IN INNER EARTH CITIES abandoned their reticence toward

upper surface outsiders and bring a German engineer from the surface

to design a single track electric railway.  THE SECRET TUNNEL

ENTRANCE AT THE BRAZIL-PERU BORDER IS KEPT A WELL

GUARDED SECRET.

THEN IN 1914, AGAIN ACCORDING TO VALERIAN.  PAPERS

LEVIED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOW CLEAR GERMAN

EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS ROUTES TO UNDERGROUND

GERMAN CITIES IN SOUTH AMERICA AND ANTARCTICA.  THE

SOUTH POLE WAS TO BE USED FOR FUTURE COLONIZATION.

THIS CLAUSE IN THE SECRET WAR CORRESPONDENCES BETWEEN

IMPERIAL GERMAN AND THE ALLIES WAS SHOWN TO BRITISH

PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE BY AMERICAN ILLUMINATI

MEMBER COLONEL EDWARD MANDELL HOUSE.  GERMAN

FOREIGN MINISTER ARTHUR ZIMMERMAN STATES IN PUBLIC

THAT HE KNOWS OF SECRET GERMAN (ARYAN) CITIES IN

SOUTH AMERICA , IRAN AND IRAQ.

PLEASE PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORD ( IRAN )

WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE WORD ( ARYAN ).

Valerian doesnt list a bibliography for his sources.  It is simply

a time line.

BUT THEN LOOK AT THE FACTS ABOUT PHIL SCHNEIDER THE

MINING ENGINEER MENTIONED IN BOTH PANDORA'S BOX BOOKS.

AND ALSO THE GERMAN ILLUMINATI U-BOAT COMMANDER

WHO WAS HIS FATHER OTTO VON SCHNEIDER.  THIS WAS

THE SAME OTTO VON SCHNEIDER THAT IN 1943 ( DURING THE

MIDDLE OF THE WAR ) DID THE AUTOPSIES ON THE SAILORS

ON BOARD THE VESSEL KNOWN AS THE "ELDRIDGE"

OF PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT FAME.

HEY WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO WITHOUT ME.

MIKE FROM DALLAS



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[CTRL] Fwd: [2][CTRL] 500 GERMAN COLONISTS FIND UNDERGOUND TUNNEL IN 1572

2000-10-22 Thread Kris Millegan
nsportation and communications--counterpart on the continent to the
Rothschilds. Was it in 1848 or thereabouts that all the royal families of
Europe lost their thrones?  Possibly the purpose of the Illuminati was to
institute a plan whereby they could wield control of the world without
having to be recognized as being in charge--to operate through agents in the
form of bankers and investors.  These agents are then controlled by
techniques developed by scientists using drugs and psychological
manipulation.  Note from the above site that the Duke of Braganca's son
(Prince of Beira, Infante of Portugal), was born at Berne, Switzerland, on
May 15, 1945--at a time when Allen Dulles was stationed there.

It's looking more and more like this group is behind the octopus.  We can
trace them at the root of:

1.Empire Trust, which created United Fruit
2.Legends about underground bases in South America
3.Marriages to many of the American heiresses of 19th century.  Could
these marriages have been designed to give legal title to the railroads and
industries controlled by the fathers of the heiresses?  Where did the
original money to create the businesses come from?

Linda







-Original Message-
From: Ole Gerstrøm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:00 AM
Subject: [CTRL] 500 GERMAN COLONISTS FIND UNDERGOUND TUNNEL IN 1572



- Original Message -
From: Mike Clark
To: 'Ole Gerstrøm'


This is from Val Valerian's Matrix Master Composite Chronology.

In 1572 a group of 500 German colonists originating mainly from

the DUKEDOM OF SAXE-COBURG  ( REMEMBER I HAVE TOLD

YOU THAT THAT THE CURRENT RULING FAMILY OF ENGLAND

ARE NOT WINDSORS BUT GERMAN ILLUMINATI SAXE-COBURG-

GOTHA,  ALSO CONFIRMED IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOK).  Back to

my point.  500 German Colonists from the DUKEDOM OF SAXE-COBURG

were hired by SEBASTIAN the FIRST KING OF PORTUGAL to man

a garrison on the Amazon River.  The group had problems with

the local indians and stumbled upon a cave entrance to a vast

underground cavern.  Headed by a German named Von Luckner

the underground colony built cities in the caverns.  According to

Valerian two of these cities exist today.  One is known as

Von Luckner and the other Wagner.  Underground they found others

with linguistic similarities to German.  Supposedly these other

UNDERGROUNDERS came to Earth 30,000 years ago in response

to a REPTILIAN INVASION OF EARTH.  Again according to

Valerian that surface living Germans of today evolved from a secret

tunnel opening in the BLACK FOREST AREA OF BAVARIA.

Remember what Icke said in his book.  That it is possible that

the ARYANS arrived from the PLANET MARS trying to flee

from THE DRAGON RACE.

THEN ACCORDING TO VALERIAN IN 1853.  GERMAN ILLUMINATI

LIVING IN INNER EARTH CITIES abandoned their reticence toward

upper surface outsiders and bring a German engineer from the surface

to design a single track electric railway.  THE SECRET TUNNEL

ENTRANCE AT THE BRAZIL-PERU BORDER IS KEPT A WELL

GUARDED SECRET.

THEN IN 1914, AGAIN ACCORDING TO VALERIAN.  PAPERS

LEVIED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOW CLEAR GERMAN

EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS ROUTES TO UNDERGROUND

GERMAN CITIES IN SOUTH AMERICA AND ANTARCTICA.  THE

SOUTH POLE WAS TO BE USED FOR FUTURE COLONIZATION.

THIS CLAUSE IN THE SECRET WAR CORRESPONDENCES BETWEEN

IMPERIAL GERMAN AND THE ALLIES WAS SHOWN TO BRITISH

PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE BY AMERICAN ILLUMINATI

MEMBER COLONEL EDWARD MANDELL HOUSE.  GERMAN

FOREIGN MINISTER ARTHUR ZIMMERMAN STATES IN PUBLIC

THAT HE KNOWS OF SECRET GERMAN (ARYAN) CITIES IN

SOUTH AMERICA , IRAN AND IRAQ.

PLEASE PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORD ( IRAN )

WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE WORD ( ARYAN ).

Valerian doesnt list a bibliography for his sources.  It is simply

a time line.

BUT THEN LOOK AT THE FACTS ABOUT PHIL SCHNEIDER THE

MINING ENGINEER MENTIONED IN BOTH PANDORA'S BOX BOOKS.

AND ALSO THE GERMAN ILLUMINATI U-BOAT COMMANDER

WHO WAS HIS FATHER OTTO VON SCHNEIDER.  THIS WAS

THE SAME OTTO VON SCHNEIDER THAT IN 1943 ( DURING THE

MIDDLE OF THE WAR ) DID THE AUTOPSIES ON THE SAILORS

ON BOARD THE VESSEL KNOWN AS THE "ELDRIDGE"

OF PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT FAME.

HEY WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO WITHOUT ME.

MIKE FROM DALLAS



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2000-10-22 Thread Kris Millegan
e. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of
the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this
what its going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the
government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was
going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the Internet about
government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task.
Thank you very much.

End of May 1995 Lecture

(Note: I believe Schneider reference to nuclear devices was an unfortunate
choice of words, It should have been fusion bombs. Col. Wilson)

Reference material...

.
UNDERGROUND BASES & TUNNELS: What is the Government trying To Hide.

By Richard Sauder, Ph.D.,

Adventures Unlimited,

Kempton, Illinois 60946

Telephone: 815-253-6390

$15.95 plus S&H

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>As always, . . .
>
>Om
>K
>





Re: [CTRL] 500 GERMAN COLONISTS FIND UNDERGOUND TUNNEL IN 1572

2000-10-21 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

-Caveat Lector-

>What is the relevant passage? Quote please. Cite page numbers.
>
>>>the ARYANS arrived from the PLANET MARS

The thing about Icke and similar writers (Lyndon LaRouche springs to mind) is that 
their stuff is very accurate, up to the point when they dive off the deep and and 
start ranting about Reptoids or Satanists or Greys etc.

The Brit royal family is from Germany, it's hardly controversial although most of the 
slapheads/sheeple don't know it just as they don't know 99% of recent history.


>
>(1.) Maybe that's where the were given, or assumed, a name that can meas
>(among other things) "Sons of Ares."
>
>   8^ )
>
>(2.) What, exactly, is an Aryan?


I believe the term comes from the now largely discredited theory that us white folk 
originated in the Aryas mountains in Asia Minor. A similar theory regarding the Caucus 
Mountains is where you get the term 'Caucasian'.

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2000-10-21 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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I'm convinced.

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2000-10-21 Thread nessie

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>
>ALSO CONFIRMED IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOK)




Confirmed how? What proofs were proffered?

You do understand the difference between "stated," "repeated" and
"confirmed," don't you?

What is the relevant passage? Quote please. Cite page numbers.

>>the ARYANS arrived from the PLANET MARS



(1.) Maybe that's where the were given, or assumed, a name that can meas
(among other things) "Sons of Ares."

   8^ )

(2.) What, exactly, is an Aryan?

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[CTRL] 500 GERMAN COLONISTS FIND UNDERGOUND TUNNEL IN 1572

2000-10-21 Thread Ole Gerstrøm



 
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Clark 

To: 'Ole Gerstrøm' 

   This 
is from Val Valerian's Matrix Master Composite Chronology.In 1572 a 
group of 500 German colonists originating mainly fromthe DUKEDOM OF 
SAXE-COBURG  ( REMEMBER I HAVE TOLDYOU THAT THAT THE CURRENT 
RULING FAMILY OF ENGLANDARE NOT WINDSORS BUT GERMAN ILLUMINATI 
SAXE-COBURG-GOTHA,  ALSO CONFIRMED IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOK).  
Back tomy point.  500 German Colonists from the DUKEDOM OF 
SAXE-COBURGwere hired by SEBASTIAN the FIRST KING OF PORTUGAL to 
mana garrison on the Amazon River.  The group had problems 
withthe local indians and stumbled upon a cave entrance to a 
vastunderground cavern.  Headed by a German named Von 
Lucknerthe underground colony built cities in the caverns.  
According toValerian two of these cities exist today.  One is 
known as Von Luckner and the other Wagner.  Underground they 
found otherswith linguistic similarities to German.  Supposedly 
these otherUNDERGROUNDERS came to Earth 30,000 years ago in 
responseto a REPTILIAN INVASION OF EARTH.  Again according to 
Valerian that surface living Germans of today evolved from a 
secrettunnel opening in the BLACK FOREST AREA OF 
BAVARIA.Remember what Icke said in his book.  That it is 
possible thatthe ARYANS arrived from the PLANET MARS trying to 
fleefrom THE DRAGON RACE.THEN ACCORDING TO VALERIAN IN 
1853.  GERMAN ILLUMINATILIVING IN INNER EARTH CITIES abandoned 
their reticence towardupper surface outsiders and bring a German 
engineer from the surfaceto design a single track electric 
railway.  THE SECRET TUNNEL ENTRANCE AT THE BRAZIL-PERU BORDER 
IS KEPT A WELLGUARDED SECRET.THEN IN 1914, AGAIN ACCORDING 
TO VALERIAN.  PAPERSLEVIED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOW CLEAR 
GERMANEFFORTS TO MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS ROUTES TO 
UNDERGROUNDGERMAN CITIES IN SOUTH AMERICA AND ANTARCTICA.  
THESOUTH POLE WAS TO BE USED FOR FUTURE COLONIZATION.THIS 
CLAUSE IN THE SECRET WAR CORRESPONDENCES BETWEENIMPERIAL GERMAN AND 
THE ALLIES WAS SHOWN TO BRITISHPRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE BY 
AMERICAN ILLUMINATIMEMBER COLONEL EDWARD MANDELL HOUSE.  GERMAN 
FOREIGN MINISTER ARTHUR ZIMMERMAN STATES IN PUBLICTHAT HE 
KNOWS OF SECRET GERMAN (ARYAN) CITIES INSOUTH AMERICA , IRAN AND 
IRAQ.   PLEASE PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORD ( IRAN 
)WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE WORD ( ARYAN ).Valerian doesnt 
list a bibliography for his sources.  It is simplya time 
line.  BUT THEN LOOK AT THE FACTS ABOUT PHIL SCHNEIDER THE 
MINING ENGINEER MENTIONED IN BOTH PANDORA'S BOX BOOKS.AND 
ALSO THE GERMAN ILLUMINATI U-BOAT COMMANDERWHO WAS HIS FATHER OTTO 
VON SCHNEIDER.  THIS WASTHE SAME OTTO VON SCHNEIDER THAT IN 
1943 ( DURING THEMIDDLE OF THE WAR ) DID THE AUTOPSIES ON THE 
SAILORSON BOARD THE VESSEL KNOWN AS THE "ELDRIDGE"OF 
PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT FAME.HEY WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO WITHOUT 
ME.MIKE FROM DALLAS

  
  
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